Here follow some the posts I wrote to TriLite and otherr Lists.
... Have fun and Enjoy ...
! WOW - All I can say is that I sure wrote a lot of posts - WOW !
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Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:33:27 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: [asc2k] Re: Group Prayer/Meditation...?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Shawn here:
i was going too reply in what i think, but Gerardus you have the same
thought. i think education would stop more wars. also, if there was no
seperation between social classes. things would be different if there was no
"rich" or "poor" and this is a possibility. this might offend some people,
but i was walking down a street and read a ad for the Canadian Communist
party. and that is what it pretty much said, and i agree with it. now can
communisim work with something like a senate or parliment? or is it somthing
different? i think the problem of course is power. look at America. it's
people might be free, but who says it is in it's government's right too take
away the freedom's of other countries for what ever excuses they can find.
Hello Shawn...
Yes, you summed it up pretty well. The trouble with the world is not with
its people in whatever country. The trouble that we are all faced with is
caused by the Governments of the Countries of the world and their Greed. The
world is run by a Global M a f i a !! This no doubt will only lasts so long
and the sooner this is SEEN by the masses of the world, the sooner it will
be done away with. The lesson of Mankind is awakening, becoming aware! This
awakening very well might only be happening by means of an enormous change
caused by the killing of millions in a next war. Who knows...
One thing is for sure in my mind and here it is - The world and Mankind will
undergo an enormous Lift in awareness/consciousness with the coming changes
of the Universe Energies and its cycles or waves that will literally wake up
the dead so to speak. Even those to dumb to think now - will realize then
that they have a thinker and will be able to use it...
An enormous change in on its way, absolutely for sure. The thing is, one
does not have to apply for it or stand in line for it in order to
participate! It will happen even if you do not want it. Another thing is
that the more we are able to prepare for this change, by educating ourselves
and others by means of sharing, caring and understanding - the more we all
will benefit from it ourselves. In the mean time - the world and or the
universal scenario needs to play itself out. We are all involved in a Drama
of Supernatural Phenomena. There is a plan and it needs to be executed
according to the curriculum that has been determined many ages and dreams
ago...
In the end, say a hundred years from now, even if we need to be reborn onto
this earth, we will all be told what an enormous suffering was sustained by
mankind in the past because of their leaders who literally kept getting away
with murder of the millions because they were able to keep them dumb because
of their GREED! In the mean time, Life is nothing but lessons and none of
them is wasted. Life has lessons of the worst kind! Once these lessons have
been learned, the Glory of Knowing will move/shift us into a self made
paradise...
Be patient the Future is Brilliant - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:02:19 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Think upon this...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
To all TriLiters...
I am reading some Digests from other lists and many people speak about war,
many speak about Dark Forces, others speak about what can, or cannot be
believed and/or should be followed or rejected. Total confusion if you ask
me! My question is, why should all these questions pull us away from what's
to be done?
Which is the silent listening to this inner voice that was there all along
before the world began and any or all wars might end it. Who cares how many
worlds it takes? Who cares about the amount of worlds we cannot take with
us, or about what is or is not information that can be trusted, when we
have our own inner source to guide us?
And even if the Light is but small, it is a lot better than the blinding Lights of
others lost in a mirage of teachings and disinfo. The trick is the go beyond
any teaching, any teacher - except for the One We Are Within. There is a
Voice there that worlds cannot still...
Find The Light You Are Within - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 10:35:19 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Peace within...
Sandra here:
Hi Gerardus,
I dont think my opinion matters, these three will continue. I would love
to be in a place where everyone was fed, sheltered, and loved their lives,
I dont believe it will happen in my lifetime.
Yes, feeling the sadness too.
Hello Sandra...
I feel that all opinions matter - so yours do...
Opinions are mind-sets or states of mind and they determine in very minor
ways what we will experience. I also feel that there is a curriculum we as
human beings are subjected to and as far as that goes our attitudes towards
ourselves and others matters most. On the other hand, I do not think it
feasible for others to create peace in a region where they do not live -
because Peace begins Within. This would mean that for the killing to begin
to stop - the people in the middle east must develop peace within first...
I cannot be stopped by your or mine Peace Within. This is what I
think/feel/intuit to be so. Life is an individual journey and what we focus
upon we will receive. One thing though, we could focus upon accepting
others for what they are. This means we just might have to accept the
fighting until the fighters have learned their lesson. If others could stop
their violence, how are they ever going to learn that they determine their
own experiences? Never naturally...
Violence begets Violence - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 11:59:11 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Gerardus and his opinions...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
Something to ponder about and then forget it!
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Gerardus and his opinions:
The Creator *is* Creation - It is One!
The Creator is Aware-Cosmic-Energy expressing itself.
The Creator is Consciousness expressing itself infinitely.
The Creator loves to express itself as Creation.
This does not mean that all Expressions are Love.
For many Expressions the purpose of Life is gaining Knowledge.
Knowledge leads to Awareness - this leads to Understanding.
Understanding leads to Love - Love for Self or Love for All That Is.
Neither kind of Love is better or worse - for all are the One in All.
Expressions have Free Will and do as they see fit.
Their free will is subject to their level of existence.
The Created have different natural or inherent Orientations.
Because of Orientations groups are formed that have different goals.
The Creator is the Infinite Subconsciousness of Creation.
It is and lives within its own Creation. It *is* Creation.
All of Creation takes place within One Mind or Consciousness.
Creation therefore is Thoughts within Thoughts within Thoughts
while all are drawing energy from the One Mind or Consciousness.
Creation is a Mind-Game of infinite proportions and possibilities.
The Infinite Subconsciousness consist of an infinite amount of
aspects, or Souls, who in and by themselves seem to create independently.
The only Creative Force is the Creator living within the Created. The
Created are Co-Creators - each in their own measure and kind...
For human beings, Creation is the accomplishment of Entities existing in
Higher Levels of Creation. They are Co-Creators and create according to
their own status or position, by means of the inherent presence of the
Creator that lives with them. All Things, Entity and Beings in Creation are
Aspects of the Creator. No one Thing, Being or Entity is something in and by
itself - all are the Creator differently. Human beings create according to
their abilities. Humans on earth are far from accomplished Co-Creators...
All we see and experience in Creation has come about or was created by the
Subconsciousness of Creation expressing itself. In the same sense, our Soul
or Subconsciousness expresses itself repeatedly as the persons we are. The
purpose of these Expressions are to become more and more aware...
All Things are the expressions of the Subconsciousness of Creation. The
Subconsciousness of Creation is an Unconscious Force. It is not aware of
self. Therefore there is no self-awareness! The Creator is busy creating
24/7 infinitely and is not concerned about who or what it is. It is the
perfect musician who has become the music. Creation is the music of the
Creator...
Many Sages spoke about The Void. The Void is the Subconsciousness of
Creation. This is the Source out of which all things arise. This is not a
Void! Creation does not arise from a Void. It arises from the Infinite
Subconsciousness of Creation - The IS. It expresses itself without being
self-aware. Its Awareness is within the Created. That is where the Creator
becomes aware of Self...
To become aware of what the Subconsciousness of Creation has accomplished,
is done by the Created. Creation as experienced by humans is the Conscious
Aspect of the Creator. A rose knows that it is a Rose. A mouse knows that it
is a mouse. A human being knows that it is a human being. Etc. We as the
Created are able to become consciously aware of Who or What we really are
and say: I Am The I Am - I am the Creator in Human Form...
Full article: http://www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 19:34:37 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Gerardus and his opinions...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
John here: How about questions? Excellent essay and easy to understand
and I thank you. Presuming a question is OK ... you wrote:
Many Sages spoke about The Void. The Void is the Subconsciousness of
Creation. This is the Source out of which all things arise. This is not a
Void! Creation does not arise from a Void. It arises from the Infinite
Subconsciousness of Creation - (cropped)
I understand, in your opinion, that Creation has a Subconsciousness. Does it
also have an "above"consciousness? (Sub being "below")
Hello John...
Questions are fine!
I see Consciousness
as Unconsciousness and Consciousness
or
as Unawareness and Awareness.
Here is an example in Cosmic Cookie Form:
Basically the Universe as Consciousness
has two Aspects
Unaware-Consciousness and Aware-Consciousness.
These Aspects or Qualities of Consciousness
do not divide Consciousness.
These two main Aspects of Consciousness
could be expressed as follows
Unawareness and Awareness
Unmanifested and Manifested
Undifferentiated and Differentiated
Unconsciousness and Consciousness.
All Things in the Universe evolve
from the Undifferentiated into the Differentiated
or from
Unawareness into Awareness.
This Evolvement or Development changes the Quality
of this Consciousness
- because -
the very Process creates Light.
The Light of Intelligence or Omniscience.
The Light itself
is the Essence that evolves... develops or grows
into Awareness or Conscious Consciousness.
When the Unconscious Light evolves
in a Biological Body in a Physical Reality System
like it does in the Case of Mankind
every time we are born
we evolve or grow more and more in Awareness.
Awareness then... is what Beingness is all about
and in order to participate in this Universal Play
we are born again and again.
In the Beginning of this Process
when we are quite Unaware or Unconscious
we are born into simple Countries and Situations.
Since our Birth was Unconscious
we do not have a Choice
as to where and when we will be born.
The very Hardships we encounter in these Lives
serve to shock us into Awareness.
Once a Higher Level of Awareness has been reached
we gain Conscious Control over our Destiny
and are able to select or pick the Birth we need.
KNOWING WHERE YOU WILL BE BORN IS VERY IMPORTANT
John here:
And, if we continue to speculate using these "above" and "below" origin
descriptions, aren't we adding a little "human ethnocentricity" into the
discussion? IF there is a SUBconsciousness there "might be" a
SUPERconsciousness of/in the Creator.
Gerardus here:
Yes, words are but words or ethnocentricity of the mortal kind. I think that
it was generally accepted that there was a Subconsciousness / a
Consciousness or Awareness / AND a Super-Consciousness. Now, the word
consciousness is not quite the right word in order to indicate awareness.
The over all underlying background is consciousness so to speak and we as
awarenesses raise ourselves by means of our experiences within the medium or
Circus of Consciousness. Consciousness is the medium within which we gain
awareness...
Follows, that we could indicate that there is a subconsciousness or
unawareness (or at least an awareness that is not self-aware) AND a
consciousness or awareness (like we are) and Super-Consciousness or Super
Awareness. Well the entire issue or terminology is a relative thing or
expression and it becomes very confusing. So, I have cut-out all
terminology, except consciousness and subconsciousness. Or awareness and
let's say higher awareness, where higher awareness means higher than human
awareness...
We could say then, that anything higher in awareness than the human
awareness is a Super Consciousness or Awareness and we could call these
Beings Christs or Buddhas. In the mean time, I do not think that Christness
or Buddhahood is the highest state of awareness. There is more I figure. So
then we would come to Super-super-super consciousnesses or awarenesses. All
this becomes too cumbersome to contemplate and I feel that we should keep it
a bit more simple - like awareness and unawareness OR consciousness and
unconsciousness. Subconsciousness here is unconsciousness...
All in all we have only words and the actual conditions cannot adequately be
described by human lingo. For now we are stuck with words of our choice and
their limits...
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John here:
Rather than "sub and above"; maybe original Creation IS itself a
duality -- that is, it is, or could be, both AC and DC as energy.
Gerardus here:
Yes, close!
AC and DC are more or less the same thing - except that AC is a type of DC
that reverses in polarity and varies in potential depending on its
frequency, while DC is a particular potential that is constant. DC has two
poles, while AC usually has three with a Neutral, but it could have six or
twelve depending on what is required...
And yes, we could say that the Universe is a "duality" basically, where one
part is aware of what it is, and the other part is not aware of what it is,
but does all the work or creating. Except that there are no part of portions
in the universe - it is one Energy! In any case, the not self-aware Creator
is useless without the Created. The Created become or are Co-Creators who
put the Creator to work according to the wishes and creative abilities of
the Co-Creators.
They are both inter-dependent, for each by themselves is not possible. This
means that God without Man is useless and Man without God is just as useless
or impossible. The One IS the Other. The Creator and Created evolved
together because of each other - they are One Carrot luring each other to a
greater height or future...
Interesting - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:57:24 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [TL] Taitetsu Unno...
At 09:16 PM 25/02/2003 -0500, you wrote:
In a message dated 2/25/2003 1:28:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gerardus@otvcablelan.net writes:
Gerardus here:
I do not think that there is an end to enlightenment.
In an infinite universe there are no ends I figure...
Does that make sense to anyone? - Gerardus
Hi Gerardus,
Fred here:
Yes, I feel your above comments and those of Taitetsu Unno make perfect
sense. We never ever stop learning and evolving. And as we course through
experience, enlightenment is renewed continuously, IMO.
Hello Fred...
Yes, enlightenment is a process.
Yet, I do not think that one Being can know it all - ever! Kind of means we
are working on an un-ending task. In the mean time, I feel that TIL - The
Infinite Light - is the Infinite Subconsciousness of Creation and that it is
not self-aware and/or does not know it all either in a conscious sense - YET
it knows - for it creates all Things and Beings AND actually IS them! There
is a "contradiction" here that swallows all paradoxes as food and thrives on
it. Kind of an eat and know case...
Somehow it is what we are - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:19:07 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Viewing Other Realities
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:24:02 -0800
From: Gerardus
Subject: Remote Viewing
Azure here:
I can be watching TV or doing the dishes,
ect& and I see things come and go. The site I saw yesterday was a
bird, we had pizza left over from dinner and it appeared to try and
pick up a piece of crust and it wings started to flap like crazy.
The crust was only move slightly, and then the bird disappeared. But
to begin with the bird was not as one outside my windows. The shape
of bird was not fully formed. One of my Cats sees the same as I.
We sit and watch the show together. Now I understand what it says in
the Bible that you are never alone. How this all started I have no
idea. Just one day I started seeing faint lights and movements with
no clear shapes. Some of the movements were like vapors off of hot
pavements. Then I started feeling sensations when these lights would
brush up next to me. This really opens my eyes. Now lately these
sensations of being touched haven't been happening as much. Maybe
because it bothers me, I really don't understand. Another aspect
happen maybe about a few weeks after all this started.
I was in bed
sleeping and woke up with something walking by me. I rose up in bed
and said I can see you, and what ever it was, made me go back to
sleep. It was invisible but yet I could somewhat see it. The top of
the head/ helmet glowed in a golden light. The body I could not see,
but yet I could it was in the shape of a human. Unknown time lapsed,
then the next thing I knew I was sitting up again and saying I see
you. It was sitting on the foot of my bed this time.
Once again it
made me go back to sleep. Well the next morning when I woke up it
felt as if I had taken many sleeping pills. It took hours to be able
to function somewhat normal. I now have pain in the bridge of my
nose and sharp pains at times in my eyes. The sights I see now are
increasing daily. I have really tried to find a place on the net
where I would be able to get answers; so far my searches have come up
empty. I realize my post might be of no interest to some, and which
I thank you for your time and patience with me. But on the other
side of the coin, there might be some who have understanding of these
things and could shed light on this. Thank You, Azure
Hello Azure - Gerardus here:
In my Opinion...
You might be experiencing "bleed-throughs" from other realities. They are
very disturbing naturally and could make your life difficult. There are
hundreds of other realities all around us and the miracle is that we usually
only experience the habitual reality we have learned to recognize. Best
thing to do, to me seems, to learn to become selective in choosing what you
want to experience.Tell yourSelf!
It means narrowing your range of
frequency and disregard all these other happenings. We all live within the
midst of ALL realities for Life is a energy-relationship. We all are
aware-energy and so are other entities and/or beings. We become aware of
each other by means of our own cosmic-tuner we call our aura/energy/brain
that selects the realities we experiences. All of Life are Energy-Fields of
which all are aware... and many are aware like we humans are or better.
Naturally there are Beings who are Super-Aware in higher densities...
As you might know, our body and our usual physical reality is an illusion
that we have learned to make real to our senses, brain and conscious mind.
Nevertheless it is as much an illusion as anything else is. Our habitual
consciousness is attuned to one frequency band or time-zone. I feel that in
future years many more people will be challenged when they begin to
experience more than one reality system. No doubt different people have
different sensitivities towards other realities and/or frequency bands or
time zones.
We all live in the midst of all happenings and need to learn to
selectively "peep" into the next higher range - in our case 4D or higher.
Life or reality there is naturally unusual to 3D Beings. I am not bothered
by these problems, but only think I know something that might help you. I
hope you will learn to cope soon...
We are the Truth but experience our Beliefs - Gerardus
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:47:03 -0800
From: Gerardus
Subject: Spoonbenders post-lessons are on the Web!
Message: 3
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:44:51 -0800 (PST)
From: M K
Subject: Re: Spoonbenders post-lessons are on the Web!
For me, this Spoonbenders course sounds interesting, i even checked out some
of the lessens (not fully yet, but when a get more time, i'll really have a
look at them) i'll be able to understand more what this is trying to teach.
i read all of your remarks about how you feel about it, and understand both
sides of this issue.
My personal thought is this...when you have a strong mind, you don't need to
be a 'follower' but a 'guide' for those that are 'awakening'. what if that
is what this 'spoonbenders' course is all about..to guide and control your
mind to increase it's power? to be able to tap into the rest of the 90% of
our brians and become mentialy stronger as a unified planet?
Hello Raven - Gerardus here:
You might well be right Raven.
Here is one of my thoughts. A unified 3D and/or 4D planet might be
impractical and therefore a not so spiritual solution. It would make all of
us mentally and physically lazy. I figure that we in 3D, 4D and maybe
higher, always need stimulants to increase our awareness. I do not see the
Universe as a place to reach Sameness or Unification. I figure that it is
about diversifications and tolerance of same by means of understanding
and/or awareness. When we all become the same and or fully unified - we have
reached perfect death or blaze maybe. Everybody agrees and just sits there...
Coming back to the subject:
At one time, in one of the older communications from Twyman, I think I read
it said something like this: "Since we can bend spoons with our mind, we can
use the same power of our mind creating Peace by influencing other people or
minds" (All paraphrased)...
THAT's where his rubber hit the road I figure. To influence or change others
- that is where I close the door. I figure that we need permission to send
others energy and/or mind bending thoughts. This is black magic at its
best. Certain Governments and Manufacturers have invented machines and they
do this automatically by means of mind-control-frequency broadcasting. They
also come in toys called Cell-Phones. They change the finer workings of our
brain-energies. Hello!! Is that why they are so cheap??
There are also whole schools of individuals that have been trained to become
killing robots - they are called "Military Forces". I have never been in the
Military, but if anything, one needs an awful strong mind to come out of
there un-affected. It could well be that one could be ruined for life being
in the military for a year or two. Let alone going there for a carrier!
HOWEVER, all this is fine with me - for it creates experiences. That's what
Souls come here for. The object of the Game of Life is to become aware. Not
the type of Games we play...
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Raven here:
I don't feel an immediate threat about Tawman (sorry if i misspelled that
:p) or his helpers, but I also wouldn't put my full trust in them either.
I'm too much of a leader, and tend to go on in several directions at the
same time, and i am open to learn all sorts of different things.
Gerardus here:
He is not a threat to anyone - only an experience! He does what he does and
I see neither right nor wrong in what he does. I only pointed out what I
thought about his program, and as I see it - the uselessness of bending
spoons in the first place. Maybe he is working his way up to bending
rifles. That might not be a bad idea if one could rely on it. It means that
ordinary mind-rifle-benders could walk into a battle field and not a shot
would hit the target...
God Child - Gerardus
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:05:14 -0800
From: Gerardus
Subject: (unknown)
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:49:07 -0800 (PST)
From: connie moore
Subject: Re: (unknown)
There are several comments you have made that I find intelligent and deserve
mention." Life is an individual investigation". I'd like to add that with
all the spirtual ramifactions of 9/11/01, and okc combined were over
qualified to merit change. Love remains the only human emotion that makes
the compleat cross over at death. As well I've learned from a most reliable
sorce that now we are now judged the second we pass. That will be important
to know as you can imagine. Anyway thanx for a great artical.
Gerardus here:
Thank you Connie...
We only judge ourselves. Now, later and/or whenever!
Love is Understanding. Understanding is awareness realized...
All Beings in the Universe are Love Expressed.
We could understand this by saying that the Universe/Creative Energy loves
itself infinitely, and because of that - it expressed itself in infinite
ways. It did this in order to experience itself - to get to know itself.
All expressions of the Universe are present in Creation simultaneously -
consisting of all kinds of different Beings who not necessarily need to love
each other...
Since we all have Free Will and are oriented differently, many of these
Beings do not love others and this makes the universe what it is. There is
nothing wrong with the Universe, and/or with the world for that matter.
Finding something wrong with either is a result of not being fully aware...
We are not here to "fix" anything - with or without Love. We come here to
become aware - not to fix anyone or love anyone for that matter. Knowledge
or Awareness is our Goal - once that has been accomplished over many many
lifetimes - Love or Understanding is the result...
This leads to Wisdom - Gerardus
http://www.soulwise.net/
BTW:
What crosses over at death is what we are Now.
No more no less. From there we continue...
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:08:14 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Intervention... was - Puppies of War
Chris here:
We are largely creating our own lessons, especially the leaders of
our nations, and they are making these lessons a heck of a lot more
painful than they have to be. At this point I'm starting to feel that
only an outside influence (extra-planetary) will be able to stop this
human landslide.
Hi Chris - Gerardus here:
This would be an intervention and I do not think that they happen very
often. I see the entire Human Situation in our present world as follows:
Compare it to a human family with a hundred children and 2 of these children
are exploiting the rest of the family of which about 50 of them are blind!
The parents are working away from their family and in the mean time the
greatest majority of the children in this family are suffering terribly
because of the control and bullying they are subjected to by 2 of their
siblings. Opposition to the "bullies of the human family" is punished by the
bullies with severe punishment or death...
Then, because of certain circumstances the parents become aware of what's
going on and my question now is - would they intervene? I think they would!
Well, let's say "I" would...
On our world scenario I do not exclude intervention - Gerardus
(I give the whole thing a 50/50 - but I'm not waiting for it)
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:01:08 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Gerardus' Iraq Solution...
John here:
You wrote: ( The people in the Netherlands lived in fear of the occupying
German Armies.) I wonder how much empathy you can extend to those Iraqis
that were quoted by the English journalist who are in even greater fear of
their OWN government and its soldiers and guerillas? Seems a bit strange
that you would condone that they could be expected to continue their lives
under similar conditions that you wished to escape from.
Gerardus here:
I do not condone that they should be expected to continue the way things
are. I personally cannot do anything about their predicament. Why were they
born there?? If anything, it should have been a United Nations effort to
liberate them if the world sees it that way. Then - there are other means
of getting rid of a regime - do you remember this Post?
~~~ [ THE GERARDIAN IRAQ SOLUTION ] ~~~
Feb.18/98
The Gerardian Iraq Solution for the world is the bombardment of the Cities
and Country Sides of Iraq with loads of Groceries, Bread, Wine and Cookies.
Keep this up for at least five years or more, and in the mean time support
the Opposition to Saddam Hussein by mean of instructions and finances
dedicated to change the political structure of that country. To prevent a
Black Market of our Goodies, really pour it on so that there is such an
abundance in that country that even Saddam and his Buddies becomes relaxed
and lazy...
Wrap all Parcels and Goodies in printed pamphlets with explanations in the
Iraqi Language to indicate to the people of Iraq that they have suffered
long enough. Give them examples! After five years they will decide what to
do with Saddam. This is a peaceful solution that is more effective than
violent actions. It is also more tasteful! To change any regime in any
country, the Masses have to be involved, the Leaders will follow. So Be IT.
Please send this around the world!
! Actions of Sharing work faster than Prayers or Bombs!
~ Gerardus ~
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:25:49 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Some Thoughts...
Some thoughts:
Our world is a cruel place.
It is also a beautiful place.
Mostly so because of its sadness and splendor.
It gives us as Souls an enormous variety of experiences.
I do not think that there are too many other worlds like this one.
One would be enough - just to have it around as an opportunity or example...
Next thought:
Patriotism - thinking that the country one lives in is better than another
Country. Most Patriots think that way, because of what they have been told.
Most do really know what other Countries are like because they have never
lived there...
Next thought:
I have lived in The Netherlands, Canada and the USA. I have been in Germany,
and peeked into Belgium. I have been to Hong Kong, the Philippines and I was
in Japan. I found all these places the same! Just different Souls speaking
different languages trying to make ends meets. I have found that Life is
really an Inner Affair and this can be enjoyed wherever one resides. There
is no country better than another, no person better than another - only
different. Countries are like people, all are equal with different
characteristics. All things are The Light in Manifestation. All things and
people are us in different form...
Next thought:
There is no Evil, there is no Good. Except what we call it and focus upon in
order to find direction for our lost and distorted mind. We need to focus on
the entire spectrum and forget about the details of everything and
everybody. We are the Whole within, but we get distracted by the fleeting
thoughts of the world we are not! We are the Sky, not the Clouds...
Enough for now - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:21:56 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Truth is Simple...
... Truth is Simple ...
We must come to the conclusion that the Universal Consciousness in all its
Wisdom does not differentiate between the human words "for" and "against".
Here is an example: protests against the war in Iraq, or any other war, has
no influence on eliminating war or make it go away. The Universal Mind does
not differentiate between the words "for" and "against"...
When people walk in protest of a certain war - the word war sticks in their
mind. They are against something and the Universal Mind does not recognize a
negative or an action against something. It only knows how to affirm. It
only recognizes what people have on their minds. What people have on their
mind is war. What they have on their mind is created or manifested, so war
energies are reinforced. The Universe pushes what we think about...
... Principle of Creation ...
" In the beginning there was the Word "
The Word this time is war! That is what protesters have on their minds. It
means that if people are protesting against a certain war, they are adding
energies to that war and they are reinforcing what they are against. Like I
said before - the Universal Consciousness affirms only. It never says NO.
This means, that the only way to manifest peace - is to be peaceful. Our
mind is an aspect of the Universal Mind. Our mind must radiate peace in
order to create peace. This means we must be at peace! We can do this
sitting at home or in a garden...
This also works for any other happening or thing we do not want or desire.
People speak about "attacks" for example - so they stay alert against any
and all attacks. The more people are alert or awake against attacks - the
more they are attracting attacks - because this is what they have on their
minds. Attacks therefore are created or manifested because that is what they
have on their minds by being against it...
This also counts for rejecting or hating someone. Some people do not like
their Leaders and they hate them. They have hate on their minds. This means
that they are adding energies to the atmosphere or to the persons they hate.
They re-enforce their own hate so to speak. This is why many people say:
Love is the answer! Love is Understanding which is Acceptance. Love is
Understanding is Acceptance of what is...
... Something to Remember ...
What we are against will stick with us
The thing to do is to accept any and all things
Only then will they not manifest in our personal environment
This is the lesson for the whole of Humanity
! One by One !
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:36:48 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Our dreams have beautiful endings
Hi Kate - Gerardus here:
Indeed they all have their own agendas - agreed.
The Universe is a Symphony of Agendas and Realities!
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Within this Symphony of Realities, or within the Cosmic Orchestra in which
we play, each one of us produce our individual tunes to make it happen. We
are all Soloists or Individual Forces and create. Within the wider scope of
the We-Reality in which we live - we individually will experience the
reality of our expectations, beliefs, knowledge and understanding - for that
is the tune we play - creating the pictures that appear in front of our
eyes. We individually experience what we create collectively...
All in all, if one would "deposit" in a big pot, all we have experienced,
have read about, thought about, have accepted as a possibility - and then
take a sample from that big pot - we would end up with a reality that
contains a mixture of all possible realities. This mixture, in and by
itself, as far as I can see it, would mean that enormous changes will take
place in our immediate future. Changes that are tailor-made to those
experiencing them...
We have signed up for this, and from where I am looking - it really does not
make one iota of a difference what we as the "present-experiencer" doubt
about it, regret or reject about it, like or dislike about it - the
necessary changes will happen! What's happening "is" the Global Plan we
agreed upon, before we ended up in this fog of forgetfulness from which we
are awakening, one by one, at different times and places...
Basically, all we need to do is trust the process. Trusting the process
means that we have some vague memory that All is Well - whatever we do or
don't do. We must allow it to happen! Which means, that it already is done
to us, for us and by us. For we are the timeless Forces of our Creative
Mind. All we need to do is accept without regret, despair or guilt that we
are loved, understood and will be taken care of, independent of our
greatness or smallness. Our journey is the journey of All - experienced
individually...
Also...
We must remember that all the people we think we are not...
We really are!
For there is but One Being and we are It.
We will know this for sure in times to come.
The Fog of our Forgetfulness is lifting.
And all our dreams have beautiful endings...
So be It - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:33:14 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Truth is Simple...
... Truth is Simple ...
We must all come to the conclusion that the Universal Consciousness or Mind
in all its Wisdom does not differentiate between the human words "for" and
"against". Here is an example: protests against the war in Iraq, or any
other war, has no influence on eliminating war or make it go away. The
Universal Mind does not differentiate between the words "for" and "against"!
When people walk in protest of a certain war - the word war sticks in their
mind. They are against something and the Universal Mind does not recognize a
negative or an action against something. It only knows how to affirm! It
only recognizes what people have on their minds. What people have on their
mind is war. What they have on their mind is created or manifested, so war
energies are reinforced. The Universe pushes what we think about...
... Principle of Creation ...
" In the beginning there was the Word "
The Word this time is war! That is what most protesters have on their minds.
It means that if people are protesting against a certain war, they are
adding energies to that war and they are reinforcing what they are against.
Like I stated before - the Universal Consciousness or Mind affirms only!
It never says NO...
NOW - Here it comes:
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This means, that the only way to manifest peace - is to be peaceful. Our
mind is an aspect of the Universal Mind. Our mind must radiate peace in
order to create peace. This means we must be at peace! We can do this
sitting at home or in a garden...
This is why many people say:
Love is the Answer!
Love is Understanding which is Acceptance.
Love is Understanding is Acceptance of What Is!
... Something to Remember ...
What we are against will stick with us
The thing to do is to accept any and all things
Only then will they not manifest in our personal environment
This is the lesson for the whole of Humanity
! One by One !
The above are my thoughts for now and your comments are welcome - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:03:10 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Is Jesus' Crucifixion Fiction?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
I have read what RA said about Jesus and his sacrifice or crucifixion.
http://ascension2000.com/Ra-studyguide.htm Well, this is what Ra says and
I have great trouble understanding what this sacrifice really means to me,
to us, or to the people in the past and/or to the people in the future...
Please let me explain: There is no doubt that Jesus the Christ, or a person
similar to that Level of awareness was on earth at one time (Similar stories
however are being told about similar people who lived thousands of years
before Jesus). So, was there really ever a person by that name - Jesus The
Christ? I do not know! My point is: I was not alive 2000 years ago and
have no personal experiences with or about this Jesus The Christ or anyone
of that Status or Nature. If I believe these teachings and/or stories, it
makes a follower out of me. Even if RA says so! How can one really know
that this story of the sacrifice and/or the crucifixion really took place?
I feel that this story was "planted" on earth in order to "con" people into
some kind of a Religion that later became the Roman Catholic Church and or
other Religions. I see all Religions as part of our present trouble on this
earth. They divide instead of unite! I believe that Religions were/are
"planted" by Negative STS Aliens who feed off our energies. The emotional
energies of Fear and Suffering for example. These human energies are
created regularly and on purpose from where I am looking. So are Rituals...
Couldn't it be just a symbolic story that portrays that all human beings on
earth are actually carrying the Matter Cross just by the fact that they as
Souls live in a Matter Reality. Which in and by itself, is a process that
slowly but surely makes Souls gain awareness by means of experiences and
thereby increase their level of awareness to slowly but surely reach a level
of understanding or awareness like the Buddha or Jesus The Christ did OR
persons like them...
For example, is the sacrifice of Jesus of any importance to the average man
on the street, or even to those who believe this story? This is what I
doubt. It is only a Belief! We come here to know - not to believe! What
real value is there in the sacrifice of one's body for people who have not
got a clue what the Purpose of Life is really all about? They were ignorant
masses who chose Barrabas over Jesus as the story goes. The whole story is
a big question to me! Why are sacrifices like this necessary in the first
place if no one asks for them? As the story goes: Jesus put himself in
that position... Why?
Now, (here it comes) it is possible however, that a certain person called
Jesus The Christ was crucified, but that this Jesus The Christ allowed this
to happen to prove to himself that he could go through the "pain" of it all,
without really suffering!
IOW: the entire crucifixion was a Mind over Matter exercise for self-benefit
in order to proof to himself that he could do this. THAT - yes, I can see
to be of value to this so called Jesus The Christ and to us, people who are
aware that Life is about conquering the Matter World in order to advance
ourselves upon the Awareness Ladder in our infinite existence...
You might not agree with what I say. This is Fine! I do not know what the
actual truth is. My views however are personal opinions and I realize the
following: Truth contains all opinions as possibilities - yet it is neither
of them...
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:18:44 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Human DNA Computers
Hello Shawn - Gerardus here:
Yes, DNA computers have all kinds of imitators nowadays.
The original ones are called Humans.
Many of them are easily programmed and they are send out to kill other DNA
Original Computers. It has become an enormous spectacle and there are not
enough people who know how to stop this bloody game. Sometimes people make
movies of it and show it to the rest of the world. It's some kind of show
that prepares other Original DNA Computers...
Many Original Computers are even politically oriented. Political oriented
and/or religious computers or people do anything for their Programmers!
Needless to say that their values are Money, Prestige, Craftsmanship and
Heroism. They worship the mud they walk on and a piece of colored cloth.
This is called Patriotism and it is of the highest value ever...
This worship or patriotism make military computers/people fly machines that
drop bombs by the thousands. It has become so normal that we call all this
our day to day reality. Get used to it Man! Our country is in danger so
protect yourself by killing others first. Pre-empt yourself...
It's a good thing these Original DNA Computers are rebootable by means of
re-incarnations. Maybe they learn how to stay out of the Programmers School
the next time around. The world is insane! - yet beautiful!!
May the Infinite Light people are become brighter soon - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:54:58 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] who is God
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 08:19 AM 25/04/2003 +0530, you wrote:
Olga here:
We are TOTALLY responsible for our thoughts, actions and deeds... "The
buck stops here" :))
Mahrouk here:
Sometimes this sort of thinking can have a great deal of guilt, as it's
hidden agenda. If I am responsible and x.y,z in thought or happenings,
then if I cannot change things I may be left with few options but guilt.
Hello Mahrouk - Gerardus here:
Yes, guilt. I feel though, that when we discover that it is all up to us,
we are aware that guilt is also a self-made emotion. Also, we can change
things - but not instantly! All in all - I feel that before we come to the
Understanding of Who or What We Really Are - we also will be able to
understand that the words Karma and Lesson are synonymous...
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Mahrouk here:
Could it be possible that the Illuminati-types who founded most religions
sneaked this thinking in, to keep people weak and in control and ...
Gerardus here:
Yes, they did. But it all has a purpose. We are not victims...
I feel that in the lower levels of 3D awareness all so called "sins" are
sneaked in. It is part and parcel of the experiences we must go through in
3D. It's a designed Curriculum I figure. The entire universe and the
journey we make through it, density by density, is a "creation" of Folks in
the Higher Levels. We could even call this a journey "A Virtual Trip" since
it is all subjective in the first place. We experience the trip physically
in 3D because we are subjected to the illusions of 3D...
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Mahrouk here:
Almost every religion , New Age included - says 'everything happens by the
will of god' emphasizes surrender and acceptance and at the same time
talks of responsibility and karma and I am the Creator etc
Gerardus here:
The Will of God is Our Will. We are God and God is us.
The New Age Scene is a mixture of Opinions and Nonsense. It's up to us, I
figure, to transcend this scene and see through it. The Will of God is a
phrase that sounds good, because usually people accept that God knows best.
It's an excuse or cope out (Denying of responsibilities). In the mean time,
the Will of God IS actually our Own Will, and the Plan we are subjected to,
at this particular journey and time. Next Grand Cycle might be entirely
different...
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Mahrouk here:
I don't think it changes much whether God is outside or inside. There is
still the focus on duality. God is IN us = God separate + us separate = 2
= duality = good and bad = 3D ???
Gerardus here:
I feel that God or TIL is neither IN nor OUT. It is our Mind in Action and
it projects certain scenes that fool the audience to which we belong right
now. The Duality Scenario is in effect until we are able to see it for what
it is. A scenario that is necessary in order to Play Universe. It provides
us, not only with just two opposites, but with a billion variations of the
same. It makes the Game real and worthwhile to play and learn from...
Life is about getting Wiser - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 11:54:32 -0700
Envelope-to: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Attitude creates Peace
Hello Vieme...
Yes, thank you for sharing this. It's a good one.
I feel that it is always the Ego in us that wants to take over and/or create
changes. Fix the world so to speak! The longer and longer we live (in my
case), the more we realize that we should leaves things alone.
----- Attitude creates Peace!
In the mean time, Egos are very important!
They create situations in the world that bring changes and give us
varieties. This is why even wars are good! Now, this might be hard to take
- but I feel that whatever is happening in the world has its purpose. The
fact that some people feel different about this might be because of a lack
of full awareness. This does not mean that I have got it. I know that I have
not, because there are too many thoughts yet, that do not jive with an
Attitude creates Peace situation. I wonder, does that make me want to share
and write articles? (Who would like to answer that one?)
Come to think of it now, I feel that all of us, in this world and in all
worlds, are guided by "The One Force We Collectively Are" and yet have a
knowing or awareness that we are individuals. If this individual-awareness
was not there - we would always be aware that we are an
automatic-pilot-aspect of the One We Are.
It would make us a Robot and we
all would know that we are Robots. We would have no self-input to Life
and/or drives to do anything. The way things are, gives us the challenge to
slowly but surely realize "The One We Are" at our own pace. It also gives
us the chance to goof off once in a while...
Rascal at peace right now - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:49:42 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] About Perfection...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
About Perfection...
and whether or not God is that kind of Perfection...
In my view, perfection is a human concept and God or TIL does not recognize
that word or concept. Perfection is a human thing! From where I am looking
- God is not a Consciously Aware Being. God is the Energy of the Universe -
a Vibrating Energy and its vibration creates existence into being! God is
like Electricity and all Things and Beings in the universe, high and low,
run or vibrate by means of this Energy. This is my opinion. It is not a
universal fact! However, it would be - if I were right! This happens...
God is also like the Air.
As we know - the Air makes up all winds!
Creation or the Created or We - are these winds.
The Air is God in this case...
Question:
Do you believe in One God?
Gerardus here:
In my view - a belief in one God or in many Gods is not important. We do not
come to earth in order to believe. We come here to eventually know. However
very little can be known by human brains - if anything. We do not really
come to earth to know stuff. We come to become aware! Awareness brings
Knowledge with it yes - but Knowledge is not the same as Knowing. Knowing is
an intuitive quality - Knowledge is a brain thing - based on memory. Or
something we call memory when we live in a human body. Memory dwells in the
grey cells. Knowing does not dwell in grey cells. It just IS! We can reach
it by means of our intuition. Our intuition is the Knower...
About what people call God...
If God is the Universal Energy it is not consciously aware that it is
anything! God therefore IS - it just IS - like electricity. God or TIL is a
form of energy that is able to become and/or energize all other things and
beings. Basically there are two things in the universe. The unmanifested and
the manifested. God in this case is the unmanifested and once manifested it
is the Created - the You and Me and a lot of other Guys and Dolls...
God is the Subconsciousness Aspect of Creation
and
The Created are the Conscious Aspects of Creation.
See this if you like -- http://www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
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Gerardus rambling on:
I feel that all Things and Beings already exist - but none will become
realized in our mind or knowing until we are ready for them. The universe
is not an already created finality! We all create our own. We create it
when we are ready to recognize what is. This depends on our level of
awareness. This level could well be infinite in future times - or no-times.
Not sure about this naturally because I am not there yet. Still working with
human nugget here. Sometimes it is out to lunch...
God is Creation, but it is not the Creator of it. The great Co-Creators are
the Creators of worlds and or of people and brown bears and other goodies.
God or The Infinite Light lives in all created beings and things and becomes
consciously aware within the created. Its awareness depends on the specific
species the created are. So, God is aware as a louse in a louse, aware as a
mouse in a mouse and aware in a human beings as a human being. Within each
animal or being there is a certain range within which God or TIL (The
Infinite Light) is aware. When that animal or being become more aware yet
- it will pop into the next higher level or density. 4D is to the left...
Our existence or life in all densities is dependent on the level of
awareness that we have attained. We attain awareness by means of
experiences - by means of living Life. Actually TIL or God -IS- living this
Life, but it does not know this until the particular being becomes aware of
this. So, we could say that all of us are God in different measures of
distortion or measures of unawareness...
Yes, there is One Energy That Is All! In order for this One Energy to get to
know itself, it manifests itself as the Created and as the Created it slowly
becomes aware of who or what it really is. It sees then that it is All -
but this All lives in an infinite variety of different forms. Manifestation
is facilitated by the Great Ones. They create and are in charge of Creation.
God or TIL does not create - this Energy only IS - all Things...
It's a bit like this:
We are all on this List.
The list itself does not produce any posts.
The members create posts by means of the List.
The List is God and we the members create - posts.
Well, I do sometimes. Sometimes others do. Lurkers do not.
God or the List supports all posts and does not mind...
We are and play God or TIL...
There is nothing else to do for God or Light Beings - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:48:03 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] U.S. CHARGED WITH WAR CRIMES
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 07:58 AM 23/05/2003 +0530, you wrote:
Gee wrote:
The consequences of this trial might open the pandora Box the NWO is
trying to keep closed at all cost.
Mahrouk here:
Could it be that the NWO wants the box opened? Perhaps they feel
sufficiently confident of their hold on masses consciousness, to WANT
people to know what's going on.
Perhaps they believe this type of waking-up will just add to existing fear
and apathy - so more control to them. And the small pockets of protesters
will be eliminated and better still the NWO will organize and control the
protesters without their knowledge.
Sure the US types control the Hague. Or the UN controls the US or some
such. Wasn't the International Courts in the Hague created to further the
agenda of the NWO. Global courts, global money, global everything
Sharpie speaks :)
Hello Mahroukie...
Do you think that you are sharp enough to apply for a job at the NWO? It is
not that we need a spy there, because you see through them already and tell
us all about it. It is not that! It would just look more legit for them and
it would give them a higher level of acceptance by employing one of us. If
and when you got in, you could speak up for me for example! Might be worth
a try...
Now! All joking aside:
I feel sometimes that what happens on earth are orchestrated scenarios to
wake up as many people as possible. All this means is that - no one anywhere
is anybody's enemy! Some people just might give that impression sometimes to
those who do not know. You see, what is Mr Push's lesson for example? The
lesson is getting caught!! Same for those in his Cabal...
It also means that God is on everybody's side, for waking up as many people
as possible is the purpose of being on earth. This also means that no one is
either Good or Bad unless one lacks the awareness to see through the game
completely and keeps hanging onto these terms. Life on earth is a
performance of a company of actors/souls and all actors/souls are equal...
Pondering equality for now - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:22:14 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Let's wait and see...
Gerardus here:
I feel that all happenings or scenarios on earth are orchestrated by higher
density forces with the intention to awaken as many people as possible. This
means that actually no one anywhere is really anybody's enemy! The cosmic
goal is to awaken souls in human bodies...
Examples:
1) Are the masses going to discover that their leaders are misleading them?
I do not know, but the lesson is to discover that this is so!
2) Then, what is the lesson for the people in the Bush Administration for
example? The lesson will be only be taught when they are found guilty of
war-mongering and/or of committing war crimes for at least the last fifty
years. Whether these covert activities are going to be exposed and see the
light of day - I do not know. The acts committed are what they are. In my
view, they are far from friendly...
Only when these acts are exposed will the masses and the Administration learn
their lessons. Is there a chance that this will happen? I would say yes,
most definitely! The idea, at this particular End of Time Scenario, is to
awaken as many people as possible. The awakening to the lies of humanity's
leaders is not a spiritual awakening directly, but it is an awakening to the
reality of this world. This awakening is a preliminary to the more important
awakening of the Spirit - the Spirit of God in Man...
For the above and the spiritual awakening to take place, also means that Life
is on everybody's side. Waking up as many people as possible is the purpose
of being on earth. This also means that no one is either Good or Bad, for
the scenarios on earth, are but performances in which all Souls are Actors
play their roles...
In order for Humanity to move forward we need to understand that Life on
earth is a performance by a company of actors or souls and that all actors
or souls are equal. Good and Bad therefore will fall away within the higher
understanding of this performance. Naturally, there will always be people
who will not be able to forgive. Maybe those are the once that need to
repeat more of these scenarios in the future. In my opinion, the performance
on earth will not continue too much longer before the Light will expose the
Darkness of the world...
Let's wait and see - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:36:15 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: View from the Top...
Fred here:
Life is so intricate and complex. It is these lessons that make absolutely
each and every life a most valuable one. When you stop and think about it,
how
could what sometimes happens really make sense if looked at in any other way?
When you look at it this way, painful or not, everything makes perfect sense,
does it not?
Hello Fred - Gerardus here:
I like your posts tremendously, because they have the essential "View From
The Top" on the human scenario of Life in Total. It is very complicated
and cannot easily be analyzed by human minds! The very fact that no Human
Being is perfect -is- exactly the very basis to create a human experiment
that gives the entire Human Endeavor a perfect outcome. Because only by
means of the imperfections of others do we have cause to look within and
discover that all things in the world are exactly as they should be...
Nothing needs to be improved upon, nothing needs to be changed - for what is
taking place is the blooming of Humanity expressed by means of all of us in
time - one at the time! This is why the Buddhas and the Christs arise and
declare that "I am the truth and the reality"! They understood the scenery
in which they lived by means of the Law of One - which is that Love is
Understanding and that this only can be realized by the results of our
experiences - eventually amounting to wisdom. All this, only and because, of
the individual imperfections and the lessons we all are able to learn from
this...
We are the Truth of Life but only a few of us are aware of this - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:15:03 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The Light of a Clown...
At 07:35 PM 02/06/2003 +0000, you wrote:
--- In TriLite@yahoogroups.com, Gerardus wrote:
> >--- In TriLite@yahoogroups.com, Gerardus wrote:
> Next time I want a Buddha Halo - Gerardus
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Gerardus,
You made me laugh. I wish you the enlightenment to get the halo and
realize you don't need it. LOL! :)
Elsbeth
Hi there Elsbeth...
You're welcome to the laugh...
All these laughs are due to the fact, that I am more of a clown than enlightened. No doubt, this is
not just a global secret. It produces immense rippling overtones to the Seventh Level where the
Boss lives. She does not really mind, for she is the Almighty Mother of all male clowns in the first
place. She is shrewdly familiar with the enormous problems male clowns face day in day out,
in trying to outshine the Female Lights upon this world so brilliantly engaged in lists of any kinds...
Not only that, every time new members shows up for membership to this TriLite for All, they
are of Female gender as well, in addition to those already present in the brilliance of their
Godness. Little do they but know however, that the more this list become a Female
Oriented Fragment with universal overtones, the more Light I can borrow from them without
being caught! It means that I need to take less from each in order to maintain the level of
enlightenment to keep the clown covered by Words of Light that leave his keyboard in trails
of brilliance. All this brings me to the point, by which I have to admit that up to this very day,
I have not been able to fool all of the members all of the time, but I graduated well beyond
the point of fooling most of the members most of the time. So here I sit and do my best,
to fool the most and fake the rest...
I am not sure however, whether this is due to goofs of grandiosity stolen from the Kingdom
of Fools, or whether this is due to painful flicks of forgetfulness introduced by the age factor
of all so called enlightened males clowns to make them suffer. Whatever the case, it is adding
to the enormous tension produced by the rattling of my nerves that have come to the point
of becoming invisible by repeated attempts of ascension into 4D without making it too
obvious to those from which I have to borrow my Light in order to do so...
From the Freeway of Laughter to Enlightenment - Gerardus
( Once you're on it make sure you floor it! )
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:21:01 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: War experiences by GERARDUS
Gerardus here:
I found time to answer the request...
1) Did you ever have an experience of fear and terror Gerardus?
I started full time work when I was fourteen years old and it was wartime
1942 I think, the Germans occupied The Netherlands and I was working for an
electrical contractor. We were digging trenches in the open country
somewhere and laying electrical power cables in them. One day an airplane
came over and started shooting at us. We had no idea at first that the pilot
was shooting at us, although we could hear the bullets landing in the grass
and roadside besides us. The plane flew over very low and then, it turned
around in the air and had another run at us. That made us pretty nervous and
we scrambled for the ditch - yelling and screaming like idiots.
Bullets were
flying everywhere and again the plane turned around. I am not sure how many
runs this plane took at us but it was pretty fearsome and terror like. In
the end, none of the four or five people were hurt and we talked about it
all day. The plane was an English plane and the pilot thought that we were
working for the Germans laying cable. Which in a way was not quite true, but
could have been, depending of who would have won the war. All this is more
than 60 years ago and I lost the moment of fear about it. No more terror
trips either... Great!
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2. Was there ever a war and killing where you have lived?
During the same war, the Dutch Underground Army, had the habit of shooting
German Leaders when they had a shave in the morning at the Barber's. This
happened two or three times and after this, the Germans would pick up about
10 to 15 people at random and held them hostage with loaded riffles in front
of the Church in the church yard so to speak. We lived in a small town, and
naturally, everybody heard about this pretty soon. Everybody was afraid to
be on the streets. I remembered that my brother and I heard about all this
when we were far from home with a hand-cart. We had been looking for pieces
of coal along the railroad line to burn at home for cooking and heat.
No one
had any fuel to cook. There was no electricity in those days much either.
Anyway, my brother and I had to walk home, bring the cart away and sneak
into the house were my parents lived. I remembered that I was upset plenty
because we all knew that the people in front of the Church would be shot.
They were at night, but we were too darn scared to go there and look for
weeks on end...
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3) At what level does that love and unity exist?
Well, it might exist on all levels all at once, but it is not that obvious
when you're shot at and or planes at night would fly over and fall from the
sky now and then. My dad had great trouble sleeping at night for example,
hundred of planes would fly over at night for years on end to go to Germany
from England and bomb the German populations something fierce. I am pretty
sure that those Germans also were not very aware of the possibility that
love and unity exist on all levels when they were being bombed.
All these
words of Love and Unity are fine up to a certain level but they are eaten
pretty fast when you're shot at or bombed. Life is not a game of Love and
Unity in many cases and I agree that at certain level all this might be
absolutely true but it is not always evident. Not to us/me at
fourteen/fifteen anyhow and even presently when I look at the USA occupation
of Iraq. Yes, I know it is all in the Games we play and the lessons we need
- but in many scenes love and unity is gone for a long break...
4) Can something exist and not manifests itself?
The above situation prove to me that something indeed might exist and not
manifests itself. All things exist in The IS - The Infinite Consciousness.
But in its dream, we call Human Life, there are plenty of cases where we
need to look a lot deeper and then say - it's there but right now I can't
see it! To me the universe is a Neutral Energy and God is the shooter and
the guy shot at. He is the bomber and the families trying to escape them.
Love an unity is not the nature of the Third Density from where I am looking
- yet it is - because we are here to make is so for ourselves. We are the
Expressions of Love, but once we are expressed living lives - it does not
always reflect the fact that We Are Love Expressed. All this make it a real
show - but not necessarily does that love or unity show up. IOW: Life is
neutral and Love or Unity is up to us. So, only because Life is neutral, is
it possible to live in a universe of free will and its many expressions...
Life is a tough teacher - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 11:45:18 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Unsouled Beings?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 05:44 PM 08/06/2003 +0000, you wrote:
Are there unsouled beings?
In my thinking, since we are all part of the Source, we are ALL
innately a soul/spirit in our primary existance. Therefore, all
beings, are a soul in their own right, regardless of their behavior.
Heartless and cruel beings, that have no compassion for others (such
as exist among us in human form) are operating out of greed and self-
service, obviously, but are 'souled' beings, just as those who have
compassion and express love and kindness and service to other beings.
Just as the actor upon a stage--some are heros and some are villians.
Hello Patti...
Excellent subject.
It's endless in many ways!
Maybe first of all we need to define what "soul" is. We did that some time
ago and we all agreed (more or less maybe) that a Soul is a Cosmic Energy
that cannot be defined since it is infinite. It has infinite potential at
least. Also, a Soul is Energy that's neither good nor bad - so it's neutral.
That is why it lives in a pushy-dictator and in a Mother Teresa pushing the
other way...
Another point to debate is, maybe the idea of Soul is unreal - because there
are no Souls in the first place. There is only Energy in Vibration and we
as human beings have come up with the terminology that says we are a Soul.
I have been thinking of that lately. There are Beings who are ego-robots
seeking self-satisfaction to the limit - yet they are this neutral Energy
or TIL - the Infinite Light. Or Energy in Vibration...
Another concept is that we are Thought or Energy and are "created" by other
Beings and depending on what type of Being created us IS what we are or have
become. IOW: we are a product of our creator. This could be an STS or an STO
Being and depending on its orientation - we are likewise! It's like asking
what is the difference between Mother Teresa and Mr Push? The one works and
selves others and the later serves himself dictator style...
Well, neither one is either good or bad - just different and it creates the
world as it is in which we incarnate. I figure, whoever created us by means
of what thought STS or STO - it is still up to us to become aware of the
differences and or possibilities and make a choice as to what we want to be
- STS or STO or STA. Look here if you do not know what that means -
http://www.soulwise.net/25o-sta.htm
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Patti here:
If there are unsouled beings in existance, not just on Earth but on
any of the planes of consciousness, I do not know of them or
comprehend how there could be, as this would (in my way of thinking)
indicate that there is "God" and "Not God"--an equal opposite force.
My understanding is that all that exists, exists out of, by and for
the purpose of the ONE, the WHOLE, and all that exists is part of the
WHOLENESS or the ONE. Soullessness, therefore, in my understanding
would indicate some state of being outside of that WHOLENESS.
Gerardus here:
The word "God" has become almost obsolete in my mind. However, I still use
it sometimes and I have used it lots in the past. I think we should start to
"think" energy. Neutral Stuff. So, this Neutral Stuff or TIL can do
anything it likes and a Being of that kind might well become an outrageous
killer in and of life on all planets. It likes to be the only Energy in
existence so to speak! Kind of lonely but if others would not stop it - it
could be done I figure...
The universe is a pretty wild proposition or Game to play. Apparently we
are doing it for ---> here we are. I feel that there is some way to control
what's happening on what planet by higher Beings - but sometimes this could
get out of hand so to speak and the entire universe and all the rest of the
planets and its Beings might be needed to "correct" an imbalance. This
could be happening on earth right now for example...
In many ways, human beings are very sophisticated and alive computers and we
exist as a product of an infinite Computer called The Universal Vibration...
Same Earle said: (Sam was on TL once or still is)
******* God is a Computer and we are its display *******
I feel that he is right!
To sum it up - we could say that Soul is a Vibration of Energy. It's neutral
and it chooses it own color or orientation. Either orientation is Fine!
Meanwhile, no vibration - no Soul! This means that there is no life at all
- it is non-existent. Conclusion: Soul is Energy in vibration. So is TIL or
the Infinite Light. Vibration IS Life - and that's all it is...
Let's jump on this subject - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:49:47 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Unsouled Beings?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 07:43 PM 08/06/2003 +0000, you wrote:
Patti here:
So this would indicate that we are 'thoughtforms' of a
higher 'being'... just as we have thoughts... and thoughts are
created projections.... ??? Hummmmmm....
Gerardus here:
Yes! Somewhere in my writings I say as much yes.
Once alive and moving about however, we as thoughtforms change our own
Beingness with our own thoughts. That is why people get sick for example.
They think themselves sick! Or are talked into it subconsciously by their
idiot-box...
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Patti here:
I thought that thought
forms were like an energy that dies if it is not 'held up' with
continuous energy. Sort of like the Native American story of the two
wolves inside that are hungry. The child asks which will win the battle inside...
and the elder says... the one you feed.
Gerardus here:
In the long run Thoughtforms might diminish. I'm not sure how this works.
Point is, Thoughts exist in a "no time frame work" - so how would they
diminish by duration of time?? Also, thoughts, ours and everybody's,
affect every plane or level of the universe. Thoughts go through everything
so to speak. The more powerful the thought though - the more it affects all
other Beings or Thoughts. This is why - what you and I think at this time -
affects the whole of humanity. Works by osmosis so to speak. We all live
in the same mind. This is why one Great Consciousness changes the entire
world! Even if s/he would just sit there twiddling thumbs. Jesusses and
Buddhas change the world by just incarnating - even if they would look dumb
to everybody else...
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Patti here
So is there a difference in essence between that energy that is
emanated out of the source of life, that is us, and that which is
merely 'thought'?
Gerardus here:
The "source" of "life" is a contradiction in and by itself! It does not
exist as a Source or Orifice of beginnings! The source is ALWAYS the total
of what is - no one could make it bigger or smaller or do away with it. We
are that Source at all times - but at this moment in this period of our
dream - we have semi-separated ourselves from the Total We Are. We fell
asleep...
One cannot fit the Total in one body, or in any one Being. Once in a body
or form we are always less than the total. The point is - that we need
something to compare ourselves to. If one is ALL - one cannot compare
oneself to anything else - because there is nothing else. Game over!
That is why returning to Oneness might just be talk or words. Not
necessarily is it what every Being or Consciousness wants. No games to
play! The entire Universe as I see it - is a recycling energy that once a
form is on the top of it - it splits itself and begins again from the
bottom. One might not want to. There is Free Will! See this maybe:
http://www.soulwise.net/25b-bwp.htm or this
http://www.soulwise.net/25r-yij.htm --- use small font setting for IE
Browser on this one!
There are other articles I wrote about this too. I forget where.
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Patti here:
Isn't all that is--first a thought?
Gerardus here:
There is no first or last in a Timeless or Infinite Universe.
First and last are human experiences and can only be had by living in a
human body. Human experiences and bodies are illusions in the first place.
It's a dream into which we have "placed" ourselves. It's like entering a
movie theater where the movie continues forever. Once we get caught up in
the story of the movie - means that we keep re-incarnating because we still
have "investments" in the story so to speak. We have attachments to the
physical illusion and automatically we are pulled back into it. These
attachments are thoughts that seek its own level and find another birth.
Here we are again!!
The following might be important to some.
Life is an automatic process and we are "aspects of the total" that are
trapped in this process. The only way we can do something about what is
happening to us, means that we need to become AWARE of what's going on. Only
our awareness of what's happening can stop this from happening. So awareness
is the clue! Means - becoming conscious of the processes the Unconscious
Creator is trapped in. You see, "We Are The Creator" or so called Source -
but we are unconscious of this! Life is the process where the Unconscious
Creator become consciously aware by means of living in its creation - which
is the dream the Creator is dreaming unconsciously - because it is asleep!
We are the Creator asleep and dream. By means of our experiences, the more
difficult the better so to speak, are we able to become aware and wake up
AND stay awake. Therefore it is useless to try to save others - because our
efforts will not awaken the other! We might even put them into a deeper
sleep. Who knows. Our only goal and purpose is to become AWARE...
Our purpose is not saving the world or anybody - Gerardus
(Once we're fully aware we can just sit there looking dumb)
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:55:32 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The world and I...
To whom it may concern...
Different countries have different people and these different people have
different levels of awareness. From my 75 years of experiences, and from the
countries I have lived in and have visited, I would say that the level of
awareness in "general" was very high in The Netherlands, Sweden, Norwegian,
Germany, Denmark, England and Europe as a whole. Immigrate from there to
Canada and you will meet people with a lower level of awareness. Go from
there to the USA and in general you will find an even lower level yet. This
does not mean that people with a higher level of awareness are better...
We all are actors playing in a Global Performance and play our part.
Meanwhile, there is a Secret World Government that "creates" the necessary
scenes for humans to experience. These experiences are necessary in order to
bring us to higher levels of awareness. Many of these scenes repeat
themselves. Like what Germany was like 70 years ago is what the USA is now.
Consciousness in whatever form cannot learn anything in a perfect world. From
there we could conclude that the more imperfect the world is - the more we
are able to learn...
We are here to become aware, we are not here to live in a world were all
things are perfect and having Tea-Parties is the most valuable thing one
could do. Disasters, wars, suffering, abductions, and whatever else we
experience on this earth are "introduced" by Nature and those who control it.
As well as by those in control of the curriculum of Humanity and the lessons
to be learned...
Yes, Governments can be changed. But what is really changed? A different
name, a different face - that's all. Same deceptions! The Secret
Government is in ultimate control. I do see that there are gross
irregularities among Politicians that come to light - but also those who are
running the show are here to learn their lessons. Who are to judge anyone?
Ultimately there is no right or wrong - only lessons! The world is exactly
as it should be. One needs to "see through" it - that is one of the most
important lessons to be learned while we are here. My view however is but a
human glance...
There is a season and time for all happenings - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:38:58 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Creating Perception Realities...
To all TriLite Members, old and new, and in between:
Take your time to read this.
I almost broke my mind writing it!
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Gerardus thinking here about the environment we live in:
Human senses, brains and conscious minds, are the producers of individual
perceptions of the collective created reality in which humans live. This
means that all human beings have individual opinions about the environment
in which they find themselves. This could create disagreements which not
necessarily can be resolved. Meanwhile, human beings do not individually
create the environment they think they experience. Their environment is
collectively created by humanity as a whole in collaboration with other
creators...
Our so called "objective reality" is not existing actually - since we live
in an energy universe that is translated by our senses, brains and conscious
mind into a reality we know as - physical reality. This physical reality is
a complete illusion for matter in and by itself does not exist. Matter is
99.999% emptiness - where is it in other words? Human beings experience
energy-fields that are translated into the matter-world or matter-universe
by their perceiving systems - they experience this reality as real and have
accepted it as real. In actuality there is no objective reality - it only
looks and is experienced as objective or real. All of Life is subjective...
Human bodies deceive or fool the Souls that occupy them. Without physical
bodies there would be no matter reality to experience. The conclusion is
that the entire physical universe does not exist and that we live in a
universe of energy-fields that we could call the universal mind. There could
be billions of these energy fields forming so called different physical
universes. The universal mind is an infinite vibration within which certain
energy-fields arise and of which some (humans for example) are fooled into
accepting certain realities as real. All is illusion except the one who is
fooled! This means that we are real, but we can never proof this to
ourselves or to another real self. Presumably all real selves are One.
No one knows who or what this One is...
Questions and/or comments are welcome...
Energy Field Thinking - Gerardus
Hi Chris - Gerardus here:
Yes, maybe the lessons are to figure out, that we do not necessarily
have to agree with everyone or anyone, because we are authentic
individuals. This means that we understand that all Beings really are
authentic or originals and that it is more than likely that all of
them have different opinions. Unless, naturally we are able to
understand say position "A" and position "B" - because we are in
position "C" ourselves now - which in and by itself contains position
"A" and "B". By all this I mean to say that position "C" has
overlapping areas with "A" and "B" - but "A" and "B" have no
overlapping areas at all. "C" has a look from above so to speak...
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(Gerardus)Our so called "objective reality" is not existing
actually - since we live
in an energy universe that is translated by our senses, brains and
conscious mind into a reality we know as - physical reality. This
physical reality is a complete illusion for matter in and by itself
does not exist.
Chris here:
Amen to that, G!
We are simply cosmic dust blowing around in complex patterns.
Everything we see, hear, think, or feel is nothing but another
exchange of energies, given meaning to us by our own, or possibly the
collective, creative reservoir. When we pick up our dinner fork we are
really experiencing a mild electric shock, which itself can be broken
down into simpler terms of pure energy.
Gerardus here:
Yeah! I see you got it!! Now, this electric shock - is that the
reason my hand shakes when I am holding this fork? Or is that old age?
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Chris here:
I suspect that it's all fundamentally binary in nature... 1's and
0's, ON or OFF, YES or NO....IOW, choices.... but who is really making
the choices? Infinity? Entropy? Insanity? A Faceless, Cosmic
Comet-Riding Comedian?
Gerardus here:
Yeah, true, it's all about choices. Yes or No. The thing is, the
choices are made by each individual manifestation of the Whole in
order for this individual to slowly advance and join its Wholeness
again eventually. At least that is what I have figured out up to now
by the choices I have made. No proof I made the right ones naturally -
but so far I do not think that I have too many signs of insanity. WELL
- I might be insane but nobody knows it, including me.
And yes, "Infinity" is actually making this choices, but they are made
when this Infinite has manifested itself as a Finite Being. It is a
mind trick of the first order! I guess this only can be done in a
dream Infinity has. It dreams itself into finite-existences and it
believes they are real. Good enough for me...
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Chris here:
Or...are you in control of all this Gerardus? Feeding us cookies and
laughing at us from behind a 75-inch widescreen monitor with psychic
surround sound?
Gerardus here:
Funny you should say that! I have been thinking about all this myself
as well. I found myself not guilty however. Meanwhile, I feel that it
certainly has a lot to do with what I am in Totality - but not with
the finite-figment called Gerardus. He just bungles along a lot and
people think he knows something. Not so! I think they think that he
knows something and pretty soon they begin to believe their own
thinking. Which means that they create their own illusions that always
turns out to be real in the end - because they keep re-enforcing them...
The universe is the funniest place one could think of. It contains all
theories and one could follow a thousand different proposition and
eventually we will find that they all prove to be true. This is so,
because along the way we determine our own limits within which we
investigate our propositions and that is why they all turn out to be
true. All this "trueness" however is/are but words and symbols that
make no impression whatsoever on the Truth We Are. Means it's just
something we entertain ourselves with. Nothing else to do see...
Motto:
The Truth contains all opinions as possibilities but is neither of them!
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Chris here:
Man, I think I almost broke mine too....
Gerardus here:
Yes, I know what you mean.
I think we are leaning on it too much...
Time to use Heart - Gerardus
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Hello Julie...
Thank you for your kind words.
And now you got me all mixed up again.
Is there a special way to live in an illusion we accept as real? When I
think about this, with this visionary view you speak of, would not that mean
that our life is an illusion whichever way we live it? Would not that mean
that we just have to wait until the magicians we are wake up - before we
become real? Is real better than illusion?
And another question - maybe the Magicians never wake up? Then What??
Would that mean that we are the ones to set the awakening process into gear?
And why awaken at all? Could not that be just talk from teachers and
religions who want to look visionary like I do according to the Julian 2000
calendar?
I am jealous Julie, I wish I could just about understand what I write.
Maybe the only way to live our life is to not give a far-tius anywhichway
and live it as if it is real although we know that we are kidding ourselves.
Maybe just dream it and never awaken! Last one here - could it be that
awakening is optional and living priority number one?
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Julie here:
You are a Visionary. Thanks for the reminder.
Gerardus here:
I think I become a lurker for a while.
Those guys get all the good stuff free.
I have to work for it and it breaks my mind.
I feel sorry for Chris - he also suffers a broken one...
Illusionary Note:
I sniff around on other lists and they are all tangled up in the discussions
of what needs to be done before we move from 3D to 4D and who is going to
move and who is going to stay behind to clean the house. That stuff is too
complicated for me. I think that we as humanity move when our higher selves
are ready - aren't we their children? Did we arrange for the move or is
that their idea? Maybe it's like this: When the family moves to a better
neighborhood - the kids and the pets move with them whether they want to or
not. Yeah, all we need to do is enjoy the excitement and know that we are
safe...
Visionary pet - Gerardus
(Gerardus) The thing is, the choices are made by each individual
manifestation of the Whole >>>
Chris here:
But are not these so-called manifestations simply the ~ONE MIND~
hallucinating, making itself believe in all of these "other" beings?
Is it all just a dream about infinite possibilities?
Gerardus here:
Yes, that is what it is! The ~ONE MIND~ or The IS - the Infinite
Subconsciousness - LIVES within each Being, within each Human. So when the
human listens to the within - it knows what to do, because that's what his
Subconsciousness or Soul wants him to do. This sometimes means to allow
thing to happen. Other times it means to follow the inner voice. It also
means choices... and Free Will...
Extra note here:
I am not sure that we can say the ONE MIND is hallucinating. I also do not
think that it is making itself believe in all these "other" beings. From
where I am looking it is an "unconscious mind" or as I call it The Infinite
Subconsciousness - The IS. This ONE MIND *is*! It just *is*. It does not
do anything. It is not aware that it exist, because it does not have
self-awareness. The One Mind becomes aware of itself by means of Creation,
by means of you and I and Everybody ready to awaken to these stages. This
is a process. The process of Life. NOW - Please remember that what I just
said IS my idea of what is. It does not necessarily have to be that way. I
might be wrong, but as of yet, I am not doubting what I say. All this is for
us to experience. If I already knew absolutely for sure - why be here?
Creation as we know it - is the work of the created higher Beings! The you
and I in the future. Creation is the work of created beings. It is not a
product of God. God or the Energy God -IS- Creation. It sustains it... It
vibrates it...
Here I describe some of these things in plenty detail and repeats:
http://www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
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(Gerardus)The Truth contains all opinions as possibilities but is
neither of them!
Chris here:
Ok, that is brilliant!
Gerardus here:
Naturally it is!
The Truth, The Infinite Light, Life, God, or the Creative Energy ~is~ beyond
ALL conscious activity, it is beyond all Life. It is not aware of anything
and that is why it is beyond Life. YET it is all of Life. Life is its
expression by means of which it become consciously aware, by means of which
it becomes The Christ! It becomes consciously aware within you and I and
everyone else... mostly eventually...
Chris here:
Would you say, then that the MANY manifestations are just as real and
valid as the ONE creator?
Gerardus here:
Yes! Absolutely! Because it is the ONE Creative Energy That IS All! You
and I are the ONE MIND or Energy in the form of a human being. Now, it is
possible for a human being to become aware of that, and then slowly but
surely work on a greater realizations than just knowing about it. It means
becoming a Full Blown Christ in the long run. One that can change water into
wine so to speak. Crack the dream in other words... Change the dream with
one movement of the hand...
Moving words here - Gerardus
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At 04:53 PM 24/06/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Gerard here: thanks floyd for your reaction. You said: "it is lonely at
the top." I haven't got the feeling that I am at the top, or even nearing it.
I am just bewildered, when for instance, I think of all the dogmas in the
Catholic Church, the religion I was brainwashed in, and that I now think
to be pure stupidity that I start doubting my own ideas. So many priests,
bishops etc. who have studied for many years..... and when I hear them I
think how stupid!!!!
They speak about he mystery, the miracle, the extasy
of life as if they know what God wants, means, tells us, is angry about
etc. Sometimes I think there must be something terribly wrong with me that
I think so completely different. I cannot even imagine that they believe
their own words. -- Bewildered Gerard
Hello Gerard...
What you say makes a lot of sense. I figure that what you describe is
exactly what needs to be experienced and create feelings of compasion. Which
naturally is Understanding which is Love!
Then:
I figure that you are mostly over your bewilderment. I came from the same
"Altar Boy Church" as you do, same country and everything. Looking from
above and from hind side now, I would say that the entire World is a Lie -
but very very few know it. It's a facade!! It's a Joke!!
Most people however, just accept what they have been told and behave like a
"parrot" for the rest of their life and tell others. We keep each other in
line as well! Others again argue about it and in time of need kill each
other to prove their point! The whole thing makes up an enormous
Comedy/Tragedy of Lies and only very very very few people catch on...
NOW!
The world is the way it is - because the trick is to "see through" the Lies
and the Comedy/Tragedy of the whole thing. The world is the way it is on
purpose. THAT is the Game or Play imposed upon us by those who are our
benefactors. They allow things to be...
To "see through" it - THAT is the trick... and to know that the whole thing
is nonsense is the ticket out of here (Awareness is the clue). All the rest
of the folks will be brainwashed again and again until they awaken. From
where I am looking - awakening is something we do in stages. No possible way
can a human awaken to the Top-Awakening in one Bang (except for very special
humans). It would blow our fuse. So we do it in stages and stage by stage we
eventually reach the top. Once there, we laugh like hell and turn around to
help others...
We Are The Infinite Light - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 19:26:50 -0700
To: trilite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Wondering about Reality...
Gerardus here:
I am wondering about Reality.
By this I mean, I am wondering about the environment we experience. I am
also wondering about what we really are, and need be, in order to experience
anything at all! It bugs me that I am stuck in something I cannot
understand. Yes, I understand that there is no "inner" and no "outer" OR
no "within or no "without". I also understand that all things around me,
including my body is some form of energy that I am able to become aware of.
I become aware of them because I am of the same kind of energy and reside
amongst all these other things. But how I do all this understanding, or how
I can experience anything at all, is a puzzle to me. How do I do it??
Then, I am able to experience certain things around me, but there must be a
zillion other things I am not able to experience, since they are invisible
to me. I figure that in order for things to be invisible, the energy they
are made out of, must have a different phase angle or frequency and I am not
capable of experiencing that. This means I am limited somehow. And why is
that? Why would any Being want to be a limited Being? Beats me...
Meanwhile, all these invisible things all around me, must be able to go
right through me, for if not, I would be able to feel that they are bouncing
into me. We would collide! Then, the biggest question to me is - how is it
possible that I can experience "anything" at all? What kind of Being Am I,
that is capable of sensing some of the things around me, while others are
escaping my detection system. And what is this detection system anyway? Is
that what people call the mysterious I AM?
Maybe I am a special form of the I AM experiencing certain things or
environments only? I must be! My dilemma is, how can one be just a special
form or fragment of the I AM and not the whole thing? If there even is a
whole I AM that is. Maybe, just maybe, the I AM always is a zillion others
and it never is One Whole. This I AM or One Whole is a weird Being...
I do not feel that I understand very much of this Universe...
Do some of you know what's going on?
It's all very mysterious - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:29:54 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Dreaming is Creating...
To all TriLiters...
The other day, on another list, people where discussing whether certain
Teachings were a Scam of a Fraud. I contributed the following...
My opinions:
Life is a dream and we are all living this dream by expressing our dream.
This becomes our reality and it is neither a scam nor a fraud. It is just
what it is - it is a Play. It is our reality! It's an engaging experience
that may or may not "pull-in" someone else who has no dream and therefore
nothing to live for. They have other people dream for them. Tell them what
to do!
The entire physical reality is a subjective reality and there is nothing
objective about it. Life is lived in mind, but our body gives us a specific
interpretation of our dream that manifested as our life. The interpretation
of our life is an illusion to penetrate or understand. Nothing is what it
seems to be. The meaning of life is to become more aware...
TriLite for example is a dream that became reality - it is a good one.
It is the dream of the Three Initiators and you(we) are exploring it.
It shares our words and thoughts...
The vehicle we live in makes our life real in a physical sense. Meanwhile,
there is no physical reality that is real! It's 99.999% emptiness - where
is its realness? It is all mind in a certain form - it is a force field!
It is all consciousness expressed and it expresses our imagination or
creativity, which in many cases is played upon and/or controlled by other
entities. They also have their dream. Their dream is to control those in
the lower densities in order for them (us) to awaken and become consciously
aware of their illusive dreaming. Dreaming is Creating...
Enlightenment or Awakening is the end of our dream - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:53:38 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Awareness and Ingenuity...
New stuff to read:
Reality or the environment we live in is Real! It is a real environment and
we are able to have interactions with it. It responds to us when we move
about, mow the lawn, plant flowers, listen to the birds, or anything else.
So, it is a real environment or surrounding. We live in it and it even
sustain us. To deny this would mean that we are deluded...
When we come to the knowledge of what our world is made of, atoms and
molecules so small that we cannot independently see them and or interact
with them directly, we can say: our environment is an illusion because our
scientists have told us that atoms are 99.999% emptiness. IOW: we are
looking at a reality that is "empty" and nothing is as it seems to be.
Therefore I can call this "emptiness" out there an illusion! HOWEVER, it
does not mean that it does not exist!! It is there and it gives me an
impression that it is real and yet is an illusion at the same time...
Conclusion: Realness and Illusion are the same thing! These two words could
be used to indicate an object I am looking at for example. This also counts
for our body. It is real and an illusion simultaneously. Billions of empty
atoms make cells and these cell make organs and all this we call our body.
Some have brains...
Meanwhile, our body functions perfectly and since we know that it is so
"empty", that we could say that the atoms that make up our body form a
"Force-Field". A electro-magnetic force-field! We could say that this
force-field is actually an instrument because we receive certain feelings
from certain situations. It seems that certain conditions go through us. We
receive them, let go of them, and absorb or have other feelings again - this
all means that the body is a vessel. All our feelings are different for we
have different feelings because of different things, including the clues we
get from our neighbor or any other person we ever meet. We even get feelings
of fear because some nasty dog is growling at us...
Our body or force-field is AN AWARE force-field. It receives certain
conditions and we get a sense of what they are. Little later on - another
feeling fill us up. That's why or body is a container or a vessel.
Meanwhile, this vessel contains other force-field like our Spirit or Soul.
This combination of force-fields we are even go to sleep and has dreams.
What the dickens are these dreams? I think that our dreams are other
energy-fields that occupy our body-soul force-field for a while and when we
wake up in the morning we chase them away. Pretty soon we are filled up
again and call it breakfast...
Aspects (parts) of the body or force-field we are, is Spirit and the rest we
call matter. Spirit and matter have different frequencies or vibrational
speeds. They also might have different patterns of vibration. Thinking
deeper now, we as human beings are force-fields within force-fields within
force-fields, because we live in an Infinite-Force-Field we call the
universal mind. IOW: the entire universe is an Energy and within this Energy
we find force-fields by the Billions time Trillions until we loose count.
Most of these force-fields have feelings and/or opinions...
Conclusion - there are nothing but force-fields! The entire universe is a
loosely inter-connecting Energy Field of which its aspects move in and out
of each other - all of them are vessels. They have all kinds of feelings,
and it make no difference whether this is anger, love, hate or smugness.
Sooner or later these feelings leave these vessels again. It looks like as
if our body or force-field is a busy railroad station and things move in and
out like crazy. Not only that, all force-fields or energies leave
impressions! We are able to recall what they were like. The energy-field we
are has memory. We can recall feelings of Love, Anger, Compassion or even
Humor and laugh all over again. Neat trick for sure...
So, the next time we look at a rose petal, we could just pretend that there
are a billion times a billion of atoms out there making up this rose-petal.
It has beautiful colors and somehow these atoms stick together in the
formations of this rose-petal. Looks like a miracle for sure. Each energy
wavicle knows where it should grow and stay, until it is time to leave. That
is when the rose dies. IOW: rose-life comes and goes. The entire universe
consist of living beings or force-fields that come and go. What survives all
this? What survives *is* What We Are --- The Nameless One...
I just remember now, that there is a beetle out in nature somewhere, but I
forgot its name. So, I will call it the Flyby-Beetle for now. This
Flyby-Beetle has the ability to change into different colors and the most
unbelievable part is, that sometimes these Flyby-Beetles by the thousands
land in a certain spot, and create of themselves, by themselves, a complete
flower of say a foot tall. This flower has different colors, and the
Flyby-Beetles know what color goes where to make them/it look like a real
flower, with all kinds of different colors.
There is a stem, leaves and a
flower for example. Each beetle knows where to land, and the thousands of
them make up this gorgeous flower. Impossible to believe almost. They know
what they are doing. When a person comes too close, the flower takes off in
a startling flight of Flyby-Beetles. They don't stick around for smelling.
One needs to learn fly-by smelling maybe...
This is why Life in the physical is such an enormous accomplishment! It is
the creation of Co-Creators and they are Entities of an enormous "Awareness
and Ingenuity" for all we encounter in our world, including ourselves is
created by them. They are - what we will be - when we grow up! An enormous
amount of force-fields make up a world, a human being, a mouse, or a rose...
Creation is Energy is Force-Fields with Awareness. All of it! All this is
done by means of feelings that we are not aware of. For example, no one ever
woke up with his kidney on his forehead in the morning. Things stay where
they are and the whole body, in actuality, is like that flower that is
created by those Flyby-Beetles. Each atom knows where to grow and stay!
Meanwhile, the Human and the Soul We Are is able to witness this incredible
miracle we live in...
Gives one chills to think about it - Gerardus
BTW: All this means that there neither is an inner and an outer either.
I am done!
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:28:15 -0700
To: Gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Gerardus' Guides...
Gerardus here:
To all Tri-Lights...
The following is more imagination than Truth. On the other hand Truth is
also an imagination - except that we are IT! But Then What? There is only
Life and no one is a dropout from Life. That's why Gerardus and his Guides
celebrate all illusionary realities created by God's Imagination that
manifests Gerardusses and Guides. They are the same God-Soul-Energy! I use a
dream catcher in order to catch my imagination - it is made from the same
stuff as dreams are...
About my Guides:
1) A Philosopher with an enormous amount of knowledge...
2) A poet with a soft heart...
3) A scientist...
4) A Master of all trades...
5) An Irish Clown and Comedian...
6) A very old Priest who used to pull stunts at Rome...
7) The beautiful Indian energies is my last Guide...
More than twenty years ago I had a Life-Reading and the energies told me
that I have seven Guides or Helpers. They like to be called Guides
naturally - especially mine. They probably suffer my ego problem and my
drive for neatness. Anyway, there are seven! Life readings are also
stories naturally...
Here are my Guides:
1) A Philosopher with an enormous amount of knowledge which slowly slips
into my skull in the form of words when I stay out of the way. The
interpretation is a bit sharp maybe, but that's because I am trying too
hard. My Philosopher smiles about it. This Guide is a very persuasive
energy and does not bother itself with drivel unless it's funny. Actually
it has no choice in the matter. I determine and the Guide allows...
2) A poet with a soft heart for that's where it speaks from. Nice Entity
for sure! It keeps its words very simple for the scribe is a very simple
instrument. He never had a sophisticated education, for when he was young
he was more interested in girls than books. He liked to twirl their hair
and stuff. This Guide has a perfect meter when it writes, but it has a bit
of trouble knowing when to stop. It has no problem with distance however
for it knows exactly where I live. No mean feat - because I traveled a lot.
3) A scientist who caught a few universal facts here and there and tries to
translate them into today's language scientists might understand. Since
this energy is baffled by his own discoveries, he figures that 1 + 1 = 2
is an enormous celebration. Point is, how does he know that there is not a
very small fraction attached to either 1 (one). How could that make 2
(two)? Since the scientist has a non-denominational attitude I give him
credit for trying to work through a noisy container while dictating.
I hope you do too...
4) A Master of all trades. She is a feminine actuality and therefore tries
to convince me to take it easy on something that's broken. If it's broken
she says, take it easy. It's already hurting! No doubt my trying to fix
everything comes from this great master. I would not know what to do
without her. She is right and left handed and I love her. No doubt she was
a beautiful crafts person at one time with electrical overtones. The funny
thing is - she does not know how to cook. Tough Cookie...
5) An Irish Clown and Comedian. He used to be a funny guy in good old
Ireland. Too bad he lost his funny bones in a battle of wits when he was
not looking. Since then he keeps his eyes open when he speaks. Actually I
like him the best for he makes me laugh. Hope you have met him a few times.
Words flow easy from this energy and I have trouble catching them. Maybe I
should use professional baseball mitts. Use a net he says... use a net...
6) A very old Priest who used to pull stunts at Rome. He made money for the
Church! He still wears his toga and he used to make his own underwear. He
is precise like an Atomic Clock. Trouble is, nobody knows where he comes
from and/or what stunts were his best. That's probably why I have trouble
getting his point. In the mean time, I agree with him a lot, for if not, he
begins to wave his finger. Hate that finger...
7) The beautiful Indian energies is my last Guide. If I ever had to do
without them I would be devastated for they have been with me since before
they were born for the first time. They never tried to explain that to me,
for they know that I already know how that works. They are so beautiful
that it makes me cry when I think about them. They never speaks louder
than a whisper. No doubt these energies are the master of all my Guides. I
am their favored instrument for somehow they live me, without letting me
know it. That's why I still think/feel that I am Gerardus. Which naturally
is not so. All of us are The Infinite Light! Gerardusses are first class
illusions...
Notes to the above:
Since these Guides live beyond space/time their thoughts project
simultaneously. That means they all speak at once! It makes my energies
spin and nothing gets done. I need a sync system that discerns the small
nuances between the frequencies of their thoughts. I'm shopping for one but
even Panasonic thinks I am asking for the impossible. What do they know?
Oh yes, my Indian Guide whispered: "If you think you know you are the
Universe, why bother to spill the beans on a few Guides?
This baffled me and I'm still working on that one!
Questions:
Are these Guides real?
Are You real? Are Thoughts real? Is the Universe real?
All is illusion except the Energy of the Illusioner out of which
all illusions are formed and shared with those ready to catch them...
That's all for now Tri-Lights - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:29:41 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [TL] Judith Leigh Bailey...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 06:22 PM 11/08/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Gerardus here:
Consciousness or mind does not bother to be against something. When you
march you put energies into being against whatever you are marching against.
Being against something is a form of opposition if not violence...
Mind only recognizes action "for" or in favor for a certain project.
So, if you want Peace - Be Peaceful!!
Another thing - the world is a 3D school for Human Souls and we are all ONLY
responsible for our own actions. If you see that others make a mess of the
world - why should you care? Is it YOUR world?? We are guests or students
here and we do not have to be concerned about the school or the planet we
live on. Other Beings of higher densities will take care of that. Again all
these are my thoughts. There are more explicit explanations in my
articles...
[Judith here]
Thank you! Yes, this is how I've felt about it, especially since 911...
And also, am in the process of reading all your pages, Gerardus. My Seth
training has prepared me well. As you say quite intuitively, now I only need
to be confident about it.
Hello Judith - Gerardus here:
Seth was the Primer for the Western Mind. Meanwhile, not everything Seth
revealed is directly applicable to all situations. Now - about your
confidence - I said that in a private email. Just so the rest of the Members
know what's going on and alert them that they did not miss it on the list...
Further:
The 911 affair naturally is an inside job by the NWO or Illuminati, but the
entire thing is a lesson for the population of earth. Either to see through
it and/or to grok that no one else but certain people or organizations on
earth "create" the conditions/lessons necessary for Humanity to experience
and give them the opportunities to learn from. IOW: there is no God who does
things - there are only other People/Co-Creators who "create" the lessons
Mankind needs...
So, although many people died, in actuality there are no accidents, and/or
irregular happenings. The entire human situations is controlled by higher
density Beings of which some are positive so to speak and others are
negative. Above these however, I see a Force that is in complete control of
both and the necessary plan for humanity is made possible. I have not seen
one teaching who will tell us that - most teachings get stuck in details and
rituals...
IOW: there really is no Good and Bad and the duality picture begins to lose
contrast once we understand what this Earth and Humanity is all about. It is
about raising the awareness level of the Human Consciousness. This take ages
and ages and when we look at a particular moment within these ages - we do
not have the "overlooking scope" to judge. Means often we denounce what's
happening probably and call the NWO and the Illuminati bad and something
else good...
Meanwhile, there is a mixture of the two in charge, who in combination of
both provide the lessons for Mankind to learn from. Once understood we can
relax and become an observer and say - All is as it should be! This is what
the Great Masters always have said. Naturally they said that, because they
saw the "clue" of what was essential and what was needed to raise a planet
of dumb people to smart ones. This takes time, planning and happenings,
which only can be understood once we see the entire picture. Which is: "How
in Heaven's Name do we raise the Awareness of Mankind".
What's happening on our planet at the moment is the "manner" by which this
is done! Now, this might include that some rulers or governments go too far
one way or the other, but that is their lesson! There is always a give and
take in all situations, but there is no doubt in my mind that the Masters
who look after earth and mankind know exactly what is needed and what they
are doing in order to accomplish their objective. The objective is - to
raise Mankind's Mind to the Christ Consciousness - One by One...
The Buddha within us all is smiling - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:47:08 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Freewill
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Patti here...
This is one area I have a bit of trouble with.... I can picture a
group of souls/a soul group as a team of play writers, writing the
script to be enacted here in the physical... but then I question
where the script leaves off and where we have the 'free will' to
adlib our roles.....in each moment?.... or are we so 'programmed' by
our 'script' that our 'free will' was merely what we chose to write
while writing the script? I get confused! Help me to
understand...please...
Hi Patti - Gerardus here:
The answer depends on the Individual involved. Baby Souls are not able to
listen to the script. They go by the conditioning of the human standards.
Society's norm. When Souls get more experience they are able to listen but
not always follow up (they adlib then) and guilt develops maybe...
Once they get to be Old Souls they just listen and do what they hear and/or
become an observer and smile. It depends on what their task is. We all come
for different purposes. The game we play does not matter. Any game will do.
As long as Souls awaken - the universe evolves. There is no hurry...
Also, from where I am looking I see that we as Human Beings have Free Will.
But you could ask: what is the difference of thinking that we have free will
and having it? I do not think there is a difference. Who cares? However,
our free will is severely limited, but yet, we could do the exact reverse of
what we originally wanted. Like you wrote the above. You did not have to!
You could have read all the articles on my pages and stumbled over the
answers...
The whole thing can be compared to the adlibbing of actors on a stage.
Usually they stick to the script - but on occasions they do not. Years ago,
there was a show on TV and in it appeared Robin Williams. Ellen tells me it
was called Mork and Mindy. I heard that most of what went on in that show
was adlibbed by Robin Williams. My daughters watch it at that time and they
laughed something fierce...
It is the same with human beings on earth. There is a script or plan. No one
needs to following it precisely. The more we do not follow it for example -
the more we surprise the Higher Self (somewhat kidding here). Meanwhile, its
task is to ascertain that we follow precisely and when we do and are ready,
it might come down and give us a blast of its power that will boost us into
the Christ Consciousness. This more or less means that "IT" has become us...
Maybe the trick is to become your High Self without it having any idea what
happened because it was busy. If I would be able to pull that off, all of a
sudden then, it would be an old man - grinning. This means I fooled it
instead of it fooling me. The last part is nonsense naturally. It is
already me - trouble is that I am not able to appreciate its fullness...
Does this help?
I always make sure I comb my hair these days - Gerardus
(Anything is possible but nothing is for sure)
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:08:46 -0700
To: Gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Body Replays...
At 08:27 AM 22/08/2003 -0400, you wrote:
That's the Spirit Judith!
Keep it up and "hit" the entire world with it - Gerardus
(Should be easy being Judith)
floyd here:
Gerardus, I don't think it would be easy for me to be Judith,
LOL Love, floyd
Gerardus here:
From where I am looking - it is impossible to be someone else!
Unless naturally:
We as a Soul come back a hundred years from now and live the life of Judith
(again) with our own Soul or Energy. Means we put the physical world on
"replay" and we are born into her body! In a universe where time is an
illusion - bodies are also an illusion. Meanwhile all illusions are
realities! All lifetimes then, and/or all physical beings are "ploys" or
"plays" of mind - in mind. So, we could play it anywhichway...
All in all, what I say above is that our physical bodies could be used many
times and occupy different Souls every time they are used again or replayed.
Look at it this way:
The Soul is the battery of the Toy or Instrument it lives in. IOW: my
particular body could have been used by hundreds of Souls and this time
I, Gerardus, was born in it in 1927. Very weird but possible I think...
So the body I live in might have been used by hundreds of other Souls and
now it is used and animated by me. Naturally, we all live different
lifetimes for we are different Souls, as well as that we all have different
parents with different Souls in their bodies. Maybe I am living in a
"body-replay" - yet all in all it is a NEW play. Alternate Lifetimes??
I proposed this weird thought once more a long time ago, but from what I
remember no one responded - or it fizzled out. Let's see what happens this
time...
I wonder what Fred think/feels about all this weirdness - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:04:02 -0700
To: trilite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] True Day-dreams...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
True Day-dreams...
Reality or Truth is what we are! We always have been this, always will be
and we are now! The trouble or illusion that arose, came about when we went
out into our Creation (Which is Ourselves) and we began to identify with
things or beings. In other words, we gave them names and lost track of
ourselves as The Whole. We forgot Ourselves. After that we began to live
in a world of words, names, games, conditions, beliefs and opinions about
things we had learned about from others...
All this was done on purpose, for it gives/gave us an opportunity to
discover what we really are - The Creator OR Creation (They are the same
Thing!). We as Souls are Adventurers in our own Creation - which is our
mind in action and on display!
In order to become "enlightenment" we need to drop our conditioning. To do
this we need Awareness. The more the better. When we have learned to drop
everything we have learned - we will discover that we have dropped our
conditioning, our nonsense (our learning). All this means that Reality
or Truth IS simple!
Meanwhile, we live NOW and must be open to enjoy what we ARE now. Right now
we are in the process of learning how to drop what we have been conditioned
to, or brainwashed with - especially religions and our habitual thinking!
All we need to do is drop our opinions and what's left over is Reality,
Truth, That What We Are with unlimited awareness and understanding - which
is Love...
We have already arrived - please enjoy the Journey!
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:46:45 -0700
To: trilite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Karma / Maya / Observers
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
I was thinking about the following:
Karma:
All the action or activity in the world is Karma!
Some people are in the process of creating it and others are in the process
of balancing it. Karma keeps the world going forever...
Maya:
All happenings in the world are Maya or Illusion!
A world can only be created within Maya or Illusion. We are the Universal
Mind and everything takes place in it - Everything! This means that
Everything is ILLUSION. All Planes and/or Densities are illusionary or
subjective. Usually we call this our "reality" because as long as we are
dreaming it is real...
Observers:
Once people have come to the stages of awareness where all their Karma has
been balanced - they have reached a plateau of awareness that affords them
to become a detached observer. At that stage they also know that the above
two points are true...
Something unusual happened:
I was thinking of the above three things almost at once.
Most rare for a One Track Mind...
Comments or Wise Cracks are welcome - Gerardus
(Awakening means Everything will disappear)
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 15:19:55 -0700
To: trilite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Second Iraq Solution...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
Some years ago I came up with a solution for the USA and the Saddam
situation. I sent it to some lists at that time. The time for that solution
is past now and here is a second solution. This one COULD be applied now!
It's not very likely however. The problem with my solutions are, that the
Weapon Manufacturers cannot make any money on it. As we know that is what
the trouble is in the first place. M$ney M$ney M$ney - The God of Man.
Golden Calf disease naturally...
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First Iraq Solution for those who have never seen it:
~~~ THE GERARDIAN IRAQ SOLUTION ~~~
Feb.18/98
The Gerardian Iraq Solution for the world is the bombardment of the Cities
and Country Sides of Iraq with loads of Groceries, Bread, Wine and Cookies.
Keep this up for at least five years or more, and in the mean time support
the Opposition to Saddam Hussein by mean of instructions and finances
dedicated to change the political structure of that country. To prevent a
Black Market of our Goodies, really pour it on so that there is such an
abundance in that country that even Saddam and his Buddies becomes relaxed
and lazy...
Wrap all Parcels and Goodies in printed pamphlets with explanations in the
Iraqi Language to indicate to the people of Iraq that they have suffered
long enough. Give them examples! After five years they will decide what to
do with Saddam. This is a peaceful solution that is more effective than
violent actions. It is also more tasteful! To change any regime in any
country, the Masses have to be involved, the Leaders will follow. So Be IT.
Please send this around the world!
! Actions of Sharing work faster than Prayers or Bombs!
~ Gerardus ~
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Second Iraq Solution:
In order for Humanity to help the People of Iraq at this stage of the game,
the following will be most effective: Remove all American and English Forces
from Iraq! Include their Military Equipment...
Meanwhile, leave all the other Coalition Forces there and reinforce them
with additional Coalition Forces from any and all Countries in the world.
Include some from North Korea too maybe. The New Coalition Forces Soldiers
DO NOT carry weapons...
Establish Food Kitchens with two free meals per day. Include one chocolate
bar and a cookie. Cheating is checked by computer cameras. Throw in the odd
balloon...
An Iraq Governing Control Counsel is selected by the New Coalition Forces
based upon the amount of people involved from each Coalition Country in
cooperation with the Newly Established Government of Iraq. The involvement
of the existing United Nations is not required! Send Saddam if found to
Russia. If they do not want him - let him clean toilets at the kitchens...
In addition to this, the People of Iraq should be informed about this in the
most direct and complete fashion by means of advertising. Send the Bill of
all the cost involved to Washington, DC and to London. Let them quibble over
the amount they each owe. Meanwhile, the people of these last two countries
will also have a bargain...
Naturally all this sounds childish, naive and impossible, but if enough
people in the world were behind it - nothing would be impossible! Details
to be determined upon the acceptance of the above by the world at large.
Please send this around the world at Lightning Speed...
Solutions are Simple - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:00:51 -0700
To: Gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: From unconsciousness to consciousness...
At 10:16 AM 01/10/2003, you wrote:
John here: We chat a lot about "how" we create our reality -- thoughts
and beliefs that become manifest in the "outer" world.
What do you suppose goes through the minds of simpler creatures as THEY
create THEIR world of reality? IF what we are saying applies to OUR
creation of reality, then, surely the same process applies to, and in, the
mentality of the so called lesser specie.
"Why" are we not discussing the instinctual behaviors of wo/mankind? It
seems, to me, that wo/mankinds "objective world of reality" is sorely lacking
in the "basic beauty and functionality" that other specie create by instinct.
Human "instincts" seem to create the opposite!
Here's a good example of the simplicity, beauty -- and miracle, of nature.
http://community-2.webtv.net/hotmail.com/verle33/HummingBirdNest/index.html
John again: I copied and pasted the URL from this letter into my browser and
it "worked". I do not think TriLite is set up to accept the hyperlink, but,
it works also. If you have a problem accessing the url, send me an off list
note and I will Reply: with a workable link or address.
Hello John...
Yes excellent questions.
Meanwhile: the link worked for me. Yes, most interesting pictures and
commentary. I figure that some other animal stole or ate the one hummingbird
chick. Squirrels do that for example...
Here are you questions again:
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Why" are we not discussing the instinctual behaviors of wo/mankind?
It seems, to me, that wo/mankinds "objective world of reality" is sorely
lacking in the "basic beauty and functionality" that other specie create by
instinct.
Gerardus here:
Humanity (coming out of the Animal-Stages of Awareness) is in the process of
change from "Unconscious-Light to "Conscious-Light". During this process
Humanity is basically disfunctional because they have left TIL or the
GodMind (The world of "basic beauty and functionality"). They find
themselves in a seemingly separate state of being. It renders them lost if
not insane! They are in the process of growing their own GodMind
consciously by means of their own creative choices. Means trial and error...
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John here:
Human "instincts" seem to create the opposite!
Gerardus here:
Humans do not work entirely on instinct anymore. They have developed a
conscious mind and it takes over bit by bit. Before this Conscious Mind
becomes the Christ Mind however, humankind goes through all kinds of trials
and errors called lessons. What we do is not necessarily the Opposite - but
what we do provides the lessons to attain the Christ Mind. (Most women
already have the Christ Mind but since men confuse them it is not apparent).
Truth is simple...
John's First question:
What do you suppose goes through the minds of simpler creatures as THEY
create THEIR world of reality? IF what we are saying applies to OUR
creation of reality, then, surely the same process applies to, and in, the
mentality of the so called lesser specie.
Gerardus here:
The mind of the smaller creatures is TIL working through it and doing its
thing, without making the simpler creatures being consciously aware of what
they are doing. No thought or reflection - just responses as per The IS -
The Infinite Subconsciousness. They do what they do as per TIL Mind and we
call it instinct - as if it is NOT a miracle. A rose does the same thing...
John here:
Ergo hummingbirds have a beliefsystem?
Gerardus here:
Not from where I am looking.
Hummingbirds are TIL in the form of a hummingbird and the bird is
unconsciously programmed by The IS - The Infinite Subsciousness of The
Infinite Light. This unconscious programming we have called instinct! It
expresses itself in an unconscious reflection of itself in the form of a
bird - while neither The Light nor the bird is aware of themselves in a
conscious self-reflecting manner...
They are aware however, but not self-aware. Only by means of becoming of a
higher expression/awareness like human kind can this TIL become aware of
itself. Not before. But again naturally it is aware as the bird or a bird
- but not aware as TIL. Besides: TIL only IS! It just IS. No awareness
necessary so to speak and certainly not self-awareness. Self-Awareness is a
Finite State as I see it. We lose this state when we conjoin with the Light
on the end of all the trips or dreams...
I feel that the old Sages of the past called my "The IS" - the Void. Out of
this Void all things arose they said. Maybe so. Anyway, I do not see it as
a Void or The Void...
What I say above agrees with my statement that we do not consciously create
very much. We create all things but in the same unconscius manner as birds
create their nests - unconsciously they know what to do for they are
directly connected to The Infinite Subconsciousness...
We are still in the stages of becoming fully consciously aware - Gerardus
(Full Awakeness or Awarensss is enjoying the Christ Mind)
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:11:04 -0800
To: Gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: This Purposeful Lie!
There are all kinds of examples, as to the "whys" and "hows" the last wars
were started. They were all inside jobs so to speak. So was the 911 WTC
Affair. The world is a Lie - a complete Lie!
HOWEVER!!! ------ The Lie has a Cosmic Purpose!!!
The Lie and its Consequences create the necessary situations we came to
experience here on earth. The inherent results are that we are subjected to
all kinds of miseries, as well as pleasantries, which in the long run will
move us into a crystal clear state of awareness. In that state of awareness
we understand what this world is for!
The world is a Consciousness-Raising place, it's a place were the
"walking-dead" are raised to Buddhas and Christs. They/We will come again
and again until they/we "see through" the Lie and know fully well - that all
things are exactly as they should be! What I say means that the Illuminati
and all their Puppets and power-schemes are situations that need to be
experienced by those who are unaware. The Lie is our Friend so to speak...
There is no enemy but our own ignorance - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:13:05 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] A School or a Trap...
Gerardus here:
I was writing something yesterday in response to a post on another list.
I think/feel that what I wrote yesterday also fits on TriLite.
So, here it is...
Gerardus here:
I understand what you said about the virtual reality game. As a matter of
fact, all planes of being are virtual reality games and we get stuck in all
of them until we see through them. Basically Life is the Forever Virtual
Reality Game until we escape by becoming fully enlightened. Meanwhile,
our deep anaesthetic is really Ignorance, or not being Aware! This world is
THE place for unaware Human Souls...
Planet Earth is a School as well as a Trap (Glass half full or half empty).
In addition to what I said before, the humans on this planet at present
determine the Actions of their Governments by means of the collective
consciousness of the masses. THAT collective consciousness "creates" or
"allows" the conditions out there. Going out there and trying to fix things
cannot be done - it would be like re-arranging the colors of a rainbow.
What is so called "out-there" -IS- the result of the collective mass-mind.
There is no objective reality, except "the idea" of a certain objective
reality as we perceive it in our head...
Many aware people, if not all on this list, and many other lists know what
is going on, BUT it can only be corrected by the State of Mind or
Consciousness of the Masses in the USA and/or world wide. The masses need
to learn to think and then things will change. Learning to THINK is their
very lesson! THAT is what they need to do. That is why the earth is a
school that functions as a trap until Human Souls have learned to think
independently...
From what I see --- That is what creation as such is all about. Raising
Awareness! To raise awareness among the masses is the "work" of millions of
Co-Creators and those Incarnated Souls on the planets who try to write about
this. Meanwhile they are a witness to what's happening. IOW: the world does
not need fixing! The world will fix itself according to the awareness
levels reached by collective humanity...
To raise 10 billion or more Souls to higher levels of awareness takes
millions of years. Meanwhile, they go through all kinds of cycles within
cycles and the entire process is a very slow one. One by one - human souls
get off the wheel, and at certain periods in time there is a graduation of
greater proportions. But still, those who have not learned to think will be
back in the school/trap until they wake up. This has always been going on -
on all kinds of planets and always will go on...
Besides all this: One can be a witness as well as participant! But not by
fixing the world out there or by finding faults with certain people or
teachings, because all human souls are actors in a Global Play. In addition
- all teachings raise the level of awareness of all people one at the time...
I figure that all humans need to go through all the Lies in the form of
Teachings and we all need to come to the conclusion that there is no Truth
in any Teaching, because all Teachings are totally and completely redundant!
We ARE the Truth and the Reality!
Teachings create awareness however. Awareness is what we need and this is
done by Teachings as well as by other things - like war and suffering!
Meanwhile, Teachings are Vehicles that bring us higher up the ladder of
awareness, meanwhile we could see them as stepping stones that become
stumbling blocks...
When we are at a certain point of the awareness ladder we see that we are
the Truth and the Reality! Once we manifest as this Truth however, we only
have opinions or a script. All this makes Human Life interesting and
whatever suffering occurs is needed, on this planet at least, in order to
speed up the learning. Suffering is the result of ignorance. The way things
are - makes it very interesting and in addition - it's a forever process of
Labor and Love...
The Universe is our Home and our Work - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:02:23 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Listening to my Thoughts...
Gerardus here:
The universe, high and low, is really a make-work project. Everything runs
on Universal Energy most people call God or TIL. It's a Vibration of Light
and it's Neutral! The actual "work-makers" are Beings equivalent to what we
call animal trainers. They control or program the lower Worlds! Naturally,
they are a few steps higher than the average lion tamer, but as we know, all
things are relative...
All worlds are similar to a good size circus and all the "make-work" is done
so that Souls or Energy-Units are able to have something to do and have
experiences. The trick is to enjoy these experiences for what they are
without comparing. If it was not for the "work-makers", loosely called the
Programmers, the universe would be totally stagnant or dead. It would be an
infinite Computer without Software! This way, everybody is busy and thinks
they are going some place...
Naturally, no one Being or Entity goes any place, because all happenings are
dreams that take place in their own infinite Mind. By design, no one Being
can pop out of its own mind or dream at will. All in all, the universe is a
most amazing place. The work, the "work-makers" do, makes it all worthwhile...
It's worth it for them, and in the long run, it's worthwhile for the beings
and animals who are being trained. All of them move up eventually and become
"work-makers". If one is really good at it - one becomes a Programmer or
Co-Creator. All Galaxies are full of them. The work is divided according to
the ability to completely forget about OneSelf and play a role convincingly.
Not all actors make universal history or become a Buddha...
From:
The Quantum Simplicity of Gerardian Philosophy! - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 20:43:42 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] I do think/feel/intuit...
Gerardus here:
I do think/feel/intuit that I was born exactly at the right time, at the
right place and in the right family. Nothing was left up to chance! I also
feel that I have the right temper, the right qualities and the right
defaults and distortions in order to be an Actor in the Performance we Play.
I am the Creator disguised as Gerardus...
Since this is so for me - this is so for everybody in the world! The Forces
or Beings who look after this world have computer possiblilities the IRS has
not even dreamt about. Everything is recorder or rembered and not one iota
of importance is forgotten about or is swept under the carpet...
This to me means, that every Member on TriLite, whether they are
participating or not, belongs exactly where they are. Here! Reading or
being silently present in order to learn and absorb...
A millions years from now, others will have taken our place, and some of us,
if not all, will be looking after those on earth and we will be able to
remember what it was like. No judgement is involved, no rewards and no
punishment - only Understanding which is Love. Our performance at any time
of our endeavours is an expression of our Love for being creative.
Infinitely will Live and Be the Creator we are...
So Be It - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 11:01:14 -0800
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: We are the ones we’ve been waiting for
At 11:54 PM 04/02/2004, you wrote:
Dave here:
There are some words and phrases he uses that I don’t. However,
the heart of the message is one that I know is ‘real’ we’re
‘all in this together’ and we all have a responsibility for the
way 3D reality is now and how it can be tomorrow and beyond.
OK, enough from me....
Hello Dave - Gerardus here:
First some words from the Speech: ***I believe that each of us comes into
the world utterly whole, inherently worthy, entirely blameless. And I
believe that each of us, as we mature and become more conscious, deeply
longs to make a positive difference in the world.***
Gerardus here:
I do not see it that way.
We bring with us what we were in our last lifetime. Which is mostly
ignorance. Then, there are many things that I cannot figure out or follow
in that speech. If we are all blameless - how can we be responsible for the
way the world is? Which we are according to your words...
What you say makes it sound as if the people of the world are to blame for
"what is". I do not see it that way. No one is to blame. There is no
blame!!! Things are the way they are because of the unconsciousness and/or
ignorance of mankind in general. This is where Mankind is at! No one can
blame anyone for being where they are at in their thinking...
What we need is the "experience" of the mess we live in AND then we can do
something about it. Mostly we do this One by One! Not en mass. What we
need is to awaken, one by one, from the mind-control-systems of Governments,
Religions and Banking Systems. Mankind is taken for a ride...
I do not see that "we" all are responsible for the way things are in this
world. Are the fleas responsible for the dog they live on?
From where I am looking, this world has been hijacked by Hungry 4D/5D
Negative Forces and they take mankind for an emotional/suffering ride so
that they are able to feed themselves. They live OFF our emotional energies
these fellows. All "negativity" is brought about by the Religions, the
Politicians and the Big Banks who are in control of this world and are
inspired by the 4D/5D Negative Forces in the first place! The world is in
the grip of Negative Forces. That is why we, at this time, have a Negative
Experience and/or a difficult time. This will change in the future, but not
immediately. Meanwhile, I feel that things are as they should be at all
times...
What is the solution?
A solution is a human concept.
The universe does not need a solution!
We are universal Beings or Spirits and we are here to experience "What Is"
and by means of this experience grow up and get out. I do not think that
there is a Global Solution that will fix a 3D world forever. The way things
are (plus or minus) is the Nature of a 3D world. The Nature of this world is
that it is a prison. A mental prison created by the thoughts of the people
who have these thoughts. They are mediocre thinkers at best and they think
or hope for solutions in the future. That is why Pie in the Sky religions do
so well...
The masses of mankind live with a hidden victim-mentality basically, and
they are looking for solutions that at most make the prison a bit easier to
live in - but it is still a prison! They are looking for a "New Deal".
Peace with Honor in Vietnam. A War on Poverty! A War on Drugs! An end to
the War in Iraq! No more Bush! Peace and Prosperity! A New World!
This expecting mentality of Mankind is created by the Big Three - the
Religions, Politicians and the Banking Systems. I call them The Trinity
somewhere in my writing. What we need is education. Not some kind of Mea
Culpa... Mea Culpa Deal and say: We are responsible and we are to blame...
We need the Awareness and/or Understanding of what this world is for. It's a
place to transcend - not to change in a way that makes it unsuitable for the
next group of beginning 3D Souls to live and grow up in. The universe
graduates Souls, not School or Worlds...
For more on this kind of obfuscation lookahere maybe:
The Global Scenarios www.soulwise.net/25a-tgs.htm
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 11:31:17 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] God and its Passions...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Sal here:
The way you're using the term 'emotion' makes sense. I
think there's a 'passionate energy' at many levels of
being. After all, if God didn't have passion, we
wouldn't be here.
Gerardus here:
What do you see God as Sal?
Is it some kind of Being with "will" and "passion" and "purpose"?
Does it know who or what it is?
I see God as the Energy the universe runs on. Like all appliances run on
Electric Power. That's what God or TIL is to me. Electricity is not
self-aware and I feel that God or TIL is the same - not self-aware!
Awareness and/or self-awareness comes about in the created - this means that
God or TIL can only know itself by means of creation. By means of Man. Or
other Beings or Entities...
God is the One...
who becomes aware, self-aware and God-aware within us - Gerardus
(The universe is the forever blooming flower)
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Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 11:38:56 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Our World is a Staged Event...
Gerardus here:
I have great tendencies to believe that our entire world is a Staged Event.
By this I mean, that all Religions, Political and or Cultural Movements in
our world for the last thousands of years are instituted and controlled by
Beings from higher densities, who know what they are doing! Humanity (as a
Group of Souls) needs to be lied to and deceived, in order to keep Humanity
in Third Density. To keep us as Human Souls in human bodies in 3D is done
upon our (previous) request. We are here of our own Free Will...
We are kept here for the purpose of experiencing this density to the
maximum! If it was not for the "Belief-Systems" we are raised and
controlled by - we would be enlightened in such a short time that it would
not be worthwhile to even begin this Matter-Experiment and Experience,
because our experiences in 3D would be drastically short in time/place and
variety...
The entire world therefore and its history, are Staged Events and we as
Souls have asked for this experience. We wanted it! I do not feel that we
were forced into this, and or even, that all of us began as unconscious
consciousness-units and became aware from an atom and up. There are many of
us who have done this ages and ages previously and many of us therefore came
to earth consciously in order to experience the 3D plane of existence for a
certain planned duration in time...
All happenings in our world are Planned or Staged - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:12:07 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Our World is a Staged Event...
Hi Sal,
Kate here:
I would rephrase one of your sentences to say:
When we choose to enter a particular density or dimension we FALL
under the laws of that ..... or we must abide by the laws of ...
But if you can give me some examples otherwise (yes, masters
excluded - but even they still have to take a body) go right ahead and I rethink
Then another point just popped in my mind.... do we really choose the
density or dimension or do we have 'no choice' but to enter a given
density or dimension corresponding to our awareness level, e.g.
through magnetism.
Hi Kate - Gerardus here:
Here's my bit on this one.
Sal is busy and will report later.
I figure there are basically three different kinds of humans on this planet
or any planet. There is a greater variety than just three, but for now my
thinker does not dare to make it more complicated that it can stretch for.
It's in mode "simple" as usual - that's where Truth lives...
1) Those of whom earth is their first planet - Beginners.
2) Those who have been on earth and/or other planets before - Mature.
3) Those who finished many planets and reached "Master of the Physical"
status. They in turn might split their Consciousness in many fractions and
send them all over the universe to many planets. Many of these
"split-customers" look like beginners and/or mature Beings. In actuality,
all they have is a Master Connection to their own Self in Spirit. They have
an "in" so to speak. Some have tendencies to think that they are the Master.
Fat chance...
The first two, are still working on attaining their own "Master of the
Physical" status and therefore must collect their marbles of awareness by
means of a subconsciousness or soulness that may temporary free-load on The
IS (Infinite Subconsciousness) when they need it. The connection is there
but it is very crowded so to speak. Most often they do just about anything
positive as well as negative on their own in order to collect their marbles.
This often gives them a lot of interest called Karma that in actuality is
ballast. Sooner or later they learn to leave it where it suits them...
Mine is spread out all over Cyber Space - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:26:34 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Belief / Knowledge
Chris here:
Gerardus your comment : "Our Beliefs are our Blinders" reminds me of a quote
by Thomas Paine (Age Of Reason). "The more you believe, the less you know."
Hello Chris...
Yes, very true. Also a good quote!
A Belief, especially a Belief in a Religion, limits a person to that
Religion. It actually means knowing nothing more - but what one has been
told. THAT then becomes the truth! One could even become convinced that
the Belief one adheres to, is the only true Religion there is. This is the
way I was raised (read conditioned) and it took me a long time to shake it...
One feels very insecure, when one decides to "kiss" this Religion good bye.
At the time, it seems to me now, that I was all alone in the world and had
to make the best of it. No Jesus or God to help or protect me anymore. I
felt as if had betrayed them. There also was no friendly family or friends
who understood...
I feel that all of us go through these periods in order to be truly free.
This freedom is not felt that way immediately however. Slowly but surely I
climbed out the snake-pit of religious indoctrination and I feel that I have
shaking the RC Religion brilliantly. Meanwhile, it's about 40 years later
by now...
Life is about knowing, or of being aware, that we are the Oneness with a
particular distorted view of this Oneness or Ourselves, and that in the long
run we will become Crystal Clear by means of our experiences. Also, I feel
that once we renounce the Belief of our youth we are helped by others to
gain momentum in positioning ourselves within the Oneness of Infinity,
within which we have descended in order to experience the human condition.
Being human is only a particular Focus of the One in a particular form.
This human condition naturally includes every angle of deception and
conditioning that needs to be transcended in order to reach the exalted
position of a Christed Being - The One who knows without thinking...
So far so good - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:10:01 -0800
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Musical Bodies...
Hello Sal...
Time wise, I feel that all bodies are being used by cosmic energies of the
individual kind. This includes that more than one Soul could be "in" a
certain body at a certain time (Spirit Attachments). IOW: there is one main
soul-character who leads the way and thinks that it lives in its own body.
Meanwhile, another Soul, might be a temporary Guest-Soul, who leaves again
after a certain experience is finished. Yada used to hop in and out of
different bodies and/or knew what these people were about exactly. It's
kind of riding piggy back with your Consciousness and try out the different
possibilities. It also helps to keep track of what happens when and where...
This means that all bodies are in place, at all times, and Guest-Souls come
and go as they please. The main character however always stays until its
body dies and then looks for another body to be born and crawl in (All this
is controlled and regulated to the hilt). IOW: you and I could exchange
bodies whenever the time is ripe and you would live as the Sal-Soul in
Gerardus' body - and the Gerardus' Soul would live in your body - living
"your" life so to speak.
These lives would not be the same naturally,
because they are different captains on both ships now. Means different
choices and lessons to learn - but similar circumstances or tools to work
with. Usually a Soul cannot do much more than the Instrument is capable of.
Just different limitation or distortions...
I figure that your body would be rather tight to my Soul, since your skin is
tied up with a pony-tail on top. On the other hand, you would find my body
quite loose, since most of my skin hangs below my navel. Please don't tell!
I call it the Body-Exchange-Program and say over 100,000 years we continue
to do this until we both (or many Souls) have learned enough from these
bodies and then we surrender these bodies to the next generation of Souls.
I think I mentioned this before on TL - but from what I remember there were
not too many responses. I do not blame TL-ers - who would want to live in a
second hand body so to speak. This Body-Exchange-Program is called playing
Musical Bodies naturally...
Make sure you get one before the music stops - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:19:13 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Monopoly Anyone...?
Gerardus here:
Life to me is like playing the Game of Monopoly. One is given a certain
amount of play-money and a certain 'place' at the board. Dice are thrown
and we all have our turns. Depending on a certain amount of luck, and
especially on the keen awareness on how to play Monopoly one is able to
win the Game - with means ending up with all the money...
Now - life as a human being in the physical is not completely the same,
especially not as far as luck is concerned, but in general, I feel that it
is so called 'legit' to make this comparison. When we play this Game, there
are usually one winner and all the rest are so called losers...
In real life however, it seems to me that certain people cannot get used to
the idea that there are more losers than winners. What is not understood
probably, is, that by means of playing the Game of Monopoly OR the Game of
Human Life - there are certain lessons to be learned while we are playing.
From what I see or experience, it seems to me, that a certain amount of
players do not agree with the outcome of the game and the position they have
reached. They do not seem to understand that playing the game is the reward
- not winning or losing...
Some for example are broke but have attained wisdom. Others are broke and
are still unwise to the point that they have not learn that what is - IS!
The lessons are important - not who has won all the money or is on top...
How much did we learn? - THAT is important! I feel that it is not important
at all - whether we won or lost the Game - but that it is extremely
important what we learned from playing the Game. I am still playing...
That's all for now Folks - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:54:50 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Our Collective Dream...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
I just thought of this - so I wrote it out.
The world we live in, including all the animals, flowers, mountains, rivers
and all the Life upon this world, is actually our collective dream! Since
we as spiritual beings are cosmic creators however, our dream becomes our
reality. We move in and out of our dream or reality when we go to sleep and
dream other dreams. Many of those dreams enrich the reality we are dreaming
when we are so called awake in the daytime...
All in all, the entire creation is the result of dreams that become reality
depending upon which plane of being we find ourselves. There are many
different planes of being and depending on our level of awareness, we visit
these different planes one after the other. We do this in order to become
familiar with what we as cosmic creators are capable of. Presently, we are
creative energy in human form...
Naturally, we as these cosmic creators are capable of creating more pleasant
worlds that those of war, suffering and pestilence. These kinds of dreams
will take place in the so called future. Meanwhile, the world we live in now
serves us in order to awaken to greater dreams or realities. Since all
realities are dreams, the future is another dream that takes place at the
present - for even Time and Space are aspects of our daytime dreams...
In the mean time, our existence in this so called physical world is an
enormous celebration! This is especially so, since our existence only takes
place in the "Dreaming Mind We Are" - which perceives an objective reality as
the reflection of our dreams...
All worlds are dreams of creative mind we are - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:51:29 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Uni-verse or Multi-verse
Gerardus here:
From wherever I am looking...
I see that Life can be explained many different ways. One is to see and say
that there is but One Soul, and another way is, to see and say that there
are many Souls (Different Levels). I am at the stage of awareness that is
wide open to anywhichway things might turn out to be - while in the mean
time - I do not know or care which way it really is...
In all ways, I am the I AM manifested as Gerardus, and I feel privileged to
be here. Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to more learning...
I feel that this is even true for those who are what I call "Self-Realized"
for if there is nothing more to learn - well, why stay around or do anything
at all? Or do these people stay around to be an example?
I also, see and say that "We Are The Creator in Human Form" and because of
that: we 'create' the universe anywhichway we like it as a "structure in our
own human mind" that resembles our present level of understanding. Then,
many years ago, I said that we as human beings do not really exist. Well,
this might be true and not true at the same time! I feel that a Truth is
only a Truth when its opposite is equally true. All this fits within the
paradoxical nature of the Universe or Life...
Also, some people say that we have no free will, because we do not really
exist. Others say, well assume that you have free will and know that you
are Consciousness doing, living and deciding. Whichever way we are oriented
is fine with me - for I see the uni-verse or the multi-verse - exactly as WE
create it! In other words: It is neither THIS nor THAT - it is everything
we believe and thereby create it to be! Now, I am not quite sure why I
wrote all this, but no doubt it will be good for something...
Everything is good for something I have discovered - Gerardus
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At 07:52 PM 08/05/2004, you wrote:
There is a clear split in how some of us perceive the creation of
reality, especially the individual vs. collective responsibility part.
I’ve already made my understanding of the dichotomy as clear as
possible: there is a collective responsibility component to mass
reality; I won’t repeat what I’ve already posted. However, the
citation below is topical to what we’re currently experiencing. I
didn’t write it, so I’m not going to debate it. And, yes, I know it's
a "reillusion". I simply offer it as someone else’s perspective of
what’s occurring.
Dave.
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Wilhelm Reich here:
"Under the influence of politicians, masses of people tend to ascribe
the responsibility for wars to those who wield power at any given
time. In World War I it was the munitions industrialists; in World War
II it was the psychopathic generals who were said to be guilty. This
is passing the buck. The responsibility for wars falls solely upon the
shoulders of these same masses of people, for they have all the
necessary means to avert war in their own hands.
In part by their apathy, in part by their passivity, and in part
actively, these same masses of people make possible the catastrophes
under which they themselves suffer more than anyone else.
Hello Dave - Gerardus here:
With great respect to Wilhelm Reich I would like to say that there is
another angle to his philosophy about the collective responsibility
for wars and other happening for the following reasons:
Let's assume that war is a collective responsibility of the people.
Would that mean the German People for World War II ?? And would that
mean the Americans for the war in Iraq?? Or would that be the entire
population of the planet in both cases?
And let's assume that it was the collective responsibility of the
German People in the case or WI. Where did this responsibility start?
Did it start when the people in Germany were one year old, five years
old or 50 years old? And from what year on forwards does this blame
take hold? Or does it start right in the fetus in the womb or before
conception even??
Another thing is, if the people of a certain country are responsible
for the negative happenings - they are also responsible for the
positive happenings. And there are many of those in the history of the
world. Germany was on the brink of starving at that Time for example
and Hitler and his ideas fed people by the millions...
And how about, the by now known history, that Mr Preston Bush, the
Grand Father of the present president of the USA supplied the
necessary financial contributions to the Germans or Hitler in order to
fight World War II? Does that mean that the people of the United
States were also responsible for WI?
The United State's Military Forces were the deciding factor in
defeating Hitler in the last stage of WI in the first place. Were the
Americans fighting against their own money supplies or the result of
them? All this becomes a very complicated affair and I would like to
say that in the end - the concept of responsibility has no meaning
whatsoever!! Like for example certain Souls/people might have died in
1941 and came back as Americans in 1944 - Now What?
Things just happen in the world and the one thing causes the other.
Life is a dynamic flow of happenings and the very fact that we are all
here means that we all cause positive as well as negative happening
without the attachment of responsibility - and that is exactly the way
it should be, because we are the Creators of the show in the first
place - consciously or unconsciously as the story goes...
So, naturally in the end we cause and allow things to happen. This is
what Human Life in the Physical is all about and it is a natural
result of being here without any strings attached that reeks of
responsibility in a negative sense. Things are just the way they are
- the word responsibility confuses the issue. Most often, by most of
us, it is used and meant in the negative sense. Like - you did it! So
you are the guilty one. I say no one is guilty in that sense of the
word, or no one is responsible in any negative sense. And if so, this
would be balanced out by all the happenings that were positive at
other times or even at present...
Life and what's happening in it is not a matter of responsibility in
that sense. Responsibility is only of importance in a personal sense!
And even that is doubtful since we all are but an actors in a World
Performance in which God plays Man in order to awaken itself. Could we
say that God is responsible? Most ridiculous as I see it. The poor
"Lady" is totally unconscious and comes here to awaken...
How could "She" be responsible?? - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:14:29 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Untying the ethical question on torture.
At 05:44 PM 11/05/2004, you wrote:
Gerardus wrote:
Is pain an unknown quality to them?
Dave: No, all creatures feel pain (proven scientifically). It's just that
many, uncluding a lot of humans, don't recognise (or want to admit they
recognise) that their tortuous actions hurt others.
Gerardus here:
Thank you Dave.
I do think that humans recognize the pain they inflict upon others, and
basically the more pain they inflict the more powerful they feel. It is the
basic feelings of inferiority that are transferred into feelings of power
over others - that makes them feel superior. Meaning their inferiority
disappears for this particular moment of nowness in which they commit
these acts.
They adopt a second illusionary self so to speak and have moments of
glee and satisfaction that arises in the moment, without any thoughts of the
consequences of their actions. I do feel that the less experienced a Soul is
- the more they would give into this. It does not makes them less than any
other Soul - they just are in a different scenario of learning...
Meanwhile, it all helps the "Awakening of the Innocent" - those who think
and feel that they are better than all of this. They are the good Christians
and or the holier than thou people who would never do a thing like that. I
feel that they are mistaken and that most of us, since most of us are young
souls, would do the same. Inferiority is the result of not knowing who or
what we actually are...
All of it this a process of learning and we practise on each other - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:08:03 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Our Responsibility
At 07:19 AM 12/05/2004, you wrote:
--- jowolf2004 wrote regarding
unconsciousness and Gee's prior post:
For instance, I have much less control over
the group soul of my country.
Sal here:
Jo and Gee, this parallels on my earlier discussion regarding gradations of
responsibility. I think of dimensional continuums as concentric circles
(sets and subsets), whereby the higher dimensions contain the lower ones.
Hi Sal...
Yes, I remember you mentioned that and the concentric circles is a good
example. Thank you Sal! I agree with looking at it that way...
(More further down)
Sal here:
If a specific subset of TIL (All-Entity) is my own personal sphere of
influence (body-emotions-mind-personality and immediate environment), then
that subset is relatively conscious compared to elements of the larger
universal set containing myriads of worlds and civilizations of which I am
only marginally aware.
Gee here:
Yes! The further out we go - the more it becomes our unconsciousness.
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Sal here:
Another analogy would be that of the human aura. The aura closest to the
body is the most powerful and easiest to observe with sensitive photography.
As you get further from the body, the aura becomes less dense and harder to
identify, but it is still there. Theoretically, each human aura extends
indefinitely outward from the body, so my aura could be influencing a being
from Andromeda.
Gerardus here:
Yes! In one of my articles I explain that we do not live in bodies but in
Clouds of Energy - which are directly connected with all other Clouds of
Energy - while ALL Clouds of Energy in Creation make up All-Entity...
IOW: We live in a Universal Cloud called the Universal Mind or Energy, and
our bodies are our illusions and do not really exist - except as a teaching
device for the Cloud of Energy or Soul we are. We temporarily live in
self-created illusionary cocoons...
Also, we actually are the One Universal Cloud or Mind. Now, here it comes:
my view is, that there is NO BEING that lives within the One Universal Mind,
who is aware of EVERYTHING that goes on in this Infinite Cloud...
What I am saying here is, that there is NO GOD or TIL or All-Entity, who is
AWARE of EVERYTHING that is happening in the Universal Mind or Universe.
There are only certain Entities or Beings who are aware of certain things!
These things or happenings could be in the millions - but even a million
happenings are "zero" compared to an infinite amount of happenings. IOW:
even the Greatest Beings are "unconscious" of most of what goes on in the
Universe in Total...
This makes the Infinite Universe a local affair so to speak,
because NOT ANY ONE BEING is aware of the total...
This also means that any Being cannot be responsible, consciously or
unconsciously, for what is happening in the Infinite Universe - since it is
only aware of so much...
This is the basics of what I have been saying before.
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Sal here:
I can hear objections from quantum physicists who say that if you go out far
enough, the auric density will be reduced to one quanta, but if that quanta
is in the form of a wave and not a particle, then won't the ripples from
that wave continue indefinitely?
Gerardus here:
Well, let's say that it continues indefinitely, and that we would be able to
"know" what that wave means as a committed action - but does that make
"someone" responsible for what has been done by another aspect of ourselves
- who has been given free will to explore its desires and needs? The other
aspect is an aspect of ourselves in the first place, but we allow it to make
its mistakes in order to become aware.
Looking at things this way, tells me
that I am not responsible, consciously or unconsciously, for what others do
- either close by or far away. I allow it to happen, but I do not stop or
prevent them from doing what they need to do in order to become aware.
We are not here to save the world or anyone - we are here to become Aware!
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Sal here:
I guess I'm splitting straws now, but I think a healthy balance point would
be, "I am LESS responsible for the being on Andromeda than for my personal
life."
Gerardus here:
I do not think it is splitting straws. And yes, one could say that I am
"less" responsible for a being on Andromeda than for my personal life. But
if we would accept what you say - this "less" becomes insignificant the
further away certain actions take place. Meanwhile, we cannot really speak
about further and close by, since there is no distance in Mind or
Consciousness. But I do think that there is "being aware of certain things"
and "being unaware of certain other things" or happenings in Mind or
Consciousness - and this counts for any Being however great...
We experience this every day! Becoming more aware to me means that my
concentric circle expands. But it will never expand indefinitely as "my"
concentric circle. All Beings are limited - while the ONE who is not
unlimited is NOT aware of what goes on in Creation. It IS Creation or the
One Mind and it is busy creating so to speak and it is not self-aware. No
self-awareness to me means that one does not know who one is. This means
that the ONE does not know that it is Creation. Only we and or other Beings
know this - but not the ONE...
TIL or God is not aware that it is Creation - Gerardus
(There is no need for it to know because we already do)
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:45:39 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Our Responsibility
At 01:30 PM 12/05/2004, you wrote:
Gerardus wrote:
TIL or God is not aware that it is Creation
Dave here:
Gerardus, you've made variations on this statement many times. Please tell
me, how does unconsciousness create consciousness? Your above statement
contradicts the many statements you've made about the impossibility of
*awakening* unconscious beings (our fellow *dreamers*). Surely it's
self-evident that we are only conscious because the source is. If this is
not self-evident, please explain why it isn't.
Hello Dave - Gerardus here:
I am not here to explain the universe but I have put an awful lot of effort
in "trying" to do so by means of words. Words however will never make it
because the explanation is beyond words...
Meanwhile, with all the obfuscations and contradictions I come up with, some
people have light bulb moments. Hundreds of people have told me so!
Here is the proof - http://www.soulwise.net/an-00-00.htm
Since words seem to work sometimes, I just keep talking and create more words.
Nothing else to do anyway...
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So, all I offer are but words and only sometimes
light bulbs moments take place by means of words...
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God or TIL or The Creator is our Collective Subconsciousness. It is not a
Being but it could be compared to Electricity - all appliances runs on it!
I call this Collective Subconsciousness: The IS - The Infinite
Subconsciousness and it is The ONE Soul of Creation!
Also, the Creator and Creation is ONE THING - not TWO!
--- ONE!
--- ONE Energy!
Meanwhile, we all kind of accept or belief that we are some kind of personal
universal energy and we call this energy our Self or Soul. We think or feel
that we are an individual or personal Soul and that it has an instrument we
call our body. The assumption that we are a Soul with a body is an
assumption that might turn out to be false. It's a belief!
I say: We are the Creator with BODIES! The full Force of this Creator is
right beyond each of its own BODIES! It is right beyond each aspect of
Creation!
In other words, we are the Creator but seem to live in a single human body.
All this comes down to is this: The Creator We Are dreams and in its dream
there are an infinite amount of bodies and other goodies. Shortly called -->
Creation. Creation then is the Creators dream and we all seem to be alive
in this dream...
Remember though: ""Creator/Creation"" is ""ONE""...
So, The Infinite Subconsciousness is the ONE Soul of Creation and it dreams.
It is Consciousness dreaming! In its dream it issues or projects Creation.
This include Time and Space and all kinds of scientific weirdos - who think
that Time and Space are real in and by themselves. They are not - they are
dream scenarios. Dream settings... Backgrounds...
Now:
This is what you say:
""Surely it's self-evident that we are only conscious because the source is""
Well, this might be self-evident to you and others but not to me!
This is what you and they have assumed to be self-evident. Why so?
It is a belief...
I say: We as the Creator - The IS or Infinite Subconsciousness project a
dream in which humans exist as figments. The trick is to awaken - or become
fully conscious in the dream - and once we do, we will know that we are the
Creator or The IS - the Infinite Subconsciousness or the ONE Soul of
Creation. Some people have done so and apparently have proven it by doing
so called miracles. I do not know whether this was true or not, I was not
there! I do know however that it is possible to create things and
happenings, once we have awoken to what we actually are. IOW: We project a
different dream so to speak - a dream that over-rides the existing dream...
There are many articles in which I have explained this before and possibly
the best one to tackle would be this one. www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
There are many others. The trouble is, humanity is so entrenched in the
belief that God is consciously aware and knows everything - that anybody
who says something different is rejected. To change this conditioning needs
many repeats. That's why all my efforts just might pay off someday for
somebody...
Here is the one sentence you quoted above:
TIL or God is not aware that it is Creation.
Right! TIL or God is NOT an aware Being and/or it is not aware that it is
Creation or the Created! It eventually becomes fully conscious or awakened
within the Created. Becoming fully conscious or fully awakened is a process
in Dream-Time in our case and this process is called Human Life. There are
other processes...
Then, to become fully consciously aware in and as one created Human Being is
enough! One does not have to be fully consciously aware in two places or in
two Human Beings. There are no two places or two Beings in the first place.
ALL happenings take place in the ONE Mind We Are. There are no places
anywhere - there is only Consciousness and Creation is a Reflection in Mind
or Consciousness. It's a dream or reflection existing in Mind only. It
exists in everybody's Mind only! There is no "out there" for Creation to
exist in. That is the illusion to transcend...
Words words words - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:12:24 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Our Responsibility
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Dave: Please don't feel threatened by my questions; they are genuine
attempts to understand what you mean and how you are so sure of what you say.
I do not feel threatened Dave...
Then - how can I be so sure? At the moment I feel that what I say is so.
However, I cannot know for absolutely sure what I might think about all this
one million years from now. Knowing and knowledge change or expands.
Another thing is, that the Universe is not an already made thing or whole.
I/Sal spoke about this a while ago and in my post I said that the universe
is a moment to moment creation by means of our beliefs, desires and
attitudes, etc etc.
IOW: the universe is neither This nor That at any given moment - but becomes
what we expect it to be. So, if I expect, believe and or think I know, or
know, that I am the Creator, with no Beings in between - THAT is the way it
works out. One could call this Self-Realization. This does not mean that
YOU should accept what I say. What should you care what I say?
Just remember it as a possibility until you hear the same from others and
have "worked" on this concept more. There is nothing wrong with going the
long way around through all kind of Souls, OverSouls, SuperSouls and other
Entities of all kinds either. If that is what you like or love best - go for
it. The Universe responds to our wishes and desire and projections in our
mind or belief systems. My point is - We Are The Universe anywhichway we see
fit...
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Gerardus wrote: God or TIL or The Creator is our Collective
Subconsciousness. It is not a
Being but it could be compared to Electricity - all appliances runs on it!
Dave: how can you be *so* sure of this 'TIL is an unconscious current' claim
that you make?
Gerardus here:
I already answered that I think, but I feel that it has to do with Radical
Knowing. Which is intuition at work. One knows or one knows not. It does
not mean that I know everything except that I know who I am - I Am That I
AM... It shocked me the first time I got that thought or knowledge. I got
used to it and wandered allover the place and got lost in words again for a
while. Sathya help to drive the point home again! Years ago, my first
Teacher Yada had great influence on my thinking, intuition and knowing. I
knew that what he said was so...
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Gerardus wrote: There are many articles in which I have explained this
before and possibly the best one to tackle would be this one.
www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
There are many others.
Dave: I read that article and the linked pages, but nowhere in any of them
is an answer to my original question - if TIL is unconscious, as you avow,
how does unconsciousness create consciousness?
Gerardus here:
First of all I call this unconsciousness ---> Subconsciousness. I also do
not see, or do not know how unconsciousness can create consciousness. The
fact that I cannot explain it in words does not mean that it cannot AND
maybe the situation is entirely different than you or I suppose or see all
this now...
Let's say there is Subconsciousness and Consciousness WITHOUT any beginning
or end! Subconsciousness becomes aware by means of trial and error or
experiences by means of the created or creation. The created are
Consciousnesses. Aware as louse, mouse or humans and/or other Beings. Our
Subconsciousness or Our One Soul is/are the suppressed feelings that linger
just below the surface of our awareness or consciousness and make themselves
known, when the time is right. The universe itself is a Feeling! A feeling
that expresses itself. Our Subconsciousness or Soul is a feeling that
expresses itself into different realities...
I do not like the world unconscious or unconsciousness much, but agreed to
use it because Jo used it in his book and posts. Un- or Subconsciousness
could be seen as undifferentiated Consciousness or something not used yet or
directed. It could be pure Consciousness - not directed or not distorted. I
cannot explain it any further. I do trust myself or the universe enough that
at one day I will know more than I know now. That's all on this one for now
Dave...
Dave here:
That unanswered question leads to another: you claim that the world is a
staged event and everything is planned; who does the planning and
stage-managing? Is it the unconscious TIL that is unaware of itself (another
statement of yours)? Is it ETs or Angels? Gerardus, my questions are genuine
and in i-ask article you say to ask questions on TriLite so that's what I'm
doing.
Gerardus here:
The answer(s) for you or anyone are not necessarily in one of my article or
in a thousand. If you want to know "what is" - sooner or later it will hit
you. Your subconsciousness, The IS - will work the right answer to your
awareness at the right moment. Articles and experiences only prepare the
right moment - but are not the moment itself so to speak. The very fact that
you are asking means that you will know one day. I cannot give you what I
think I know or know. All I have is words - you must do the understanding
and or grasping of what is...
About the planning:
Who plans your posts? Who plans mine? TIL! Or a Form of TIL! And it
creates "what is" in the world by means of the created - the beings that
live here and/or are involved with earth and humanity. There are many
Beings involved from higher densities. The world is like a school where the
students go through a specific curriculum - Grade One, Two, Three, Four -
Not Three First and then Two or One. There is guidance and leadership in
raising human beings to Christed Beings. This takes millions of years
possibly!
Basically, there is only ONE director or dreamer and it dreams and
accomplishes all things, by means of all the created involved. They plan
and stage the events according to their experiences and knowledge. Sometimes
they make miscalculations because the Humans they direct also have a hand in
the Thought-Pie. They act or react differently than expected sometimes. So
there is a forever changing curriculum with corrections to make it work.
The main director naturally is the ONE Mind and its Dream working its way
through all the created levels or beings...
It works through yours and mine and everybody's - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 14:40:13 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Our Responsibility
Jo here:
Responding to Gerardus' Tue May 11, 2004 12:38 am post #12065,
it is interesting to see how one can agree in principle and still have
different detail opinions. We both agree in the One-ness of all
reality and in the desirability to awaken spiritually. Yet, our
views of spiritual reality differ in some remarkable aspects. This
is, of course, due to the nature of spiritual reality. Being multi-
dimensional, it has untold different aspects that appear
contradictory from our 3-D sphere but compatible in multi-dimensional
reality.
Hello Jo...
Yes, the differences have to do with many things I feel - the main
one is - that no Being is the same. There only similar beings but
no "the same" Beings...
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Gerardus here:
1)
You are ASSUMING here that the universal ONE is consciously aware or
Consciousness itself. HOW do you know that the universal ONE is
consciously aware?
Jo here:
I know because this is how I experienced the universal ONE in an
overwhelmingly enlightening moment.
Gerardus here:
Yes, exactly!
The IS - The Infinite Subconsciousness, or certain aspects thereof, became
conscious within you. At all times however, you are "The IS" as well as
Joachim in the first place! What happened? Why did it leave? Why did not
this awareness stay with you?
You had a most unusual enlightening experience - no doubt about it. I had
another friend who had one. He began painting what he experienced.
Beautiful pictures. It happens to more and more people these days. Pretty
soon it will be either common and/or accessible at will. That is what will
happen in future times I feel. Christs or Buddhas all around us. Not for
a while - but always...
You experienced a higher state of being.
Question: was this the highest state there is?
How would one know?
Possibly, the human nervous system would not be able to stand The Highest
State or "The IS" in Total! It would fry our brains.
But then - it would be a nice way to go...
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Gerardus here:
2)
I do not think whatsoeveritall that our lives are directly affected
by how we think of All-Entity. Do you think it cares about what we
think about it?
Jo here:
All-Entity does not care, correct. But our own thoughts and beliefs
about All-Entity's nature can dramatically affect our life
experience. Just notice how some Muslims' narrow perception of
Allah causes turmoil in the world.
Gerardus here:
Yes, all our thoughts about anything and everything influences our life
experiences. THEN: I do not know the Muslims' perception, narrow or wide. I
do know some narrow perceptions in the White House. Maybe the Muslim
Religious Followers finally have had enough of these perceptions. The USA
has been acting as the World's Bully at least for the last 50 years. They
got their armies all over the world. No wonder "others" take revenge. That
is their state of mind. They have been provoked lots. Meanwhile, the entire
spectacle in 3D living, forms the lessons that need to be learned by
humanity. It eventually will bring all of us to Buddhahood...
What humanity experience are staged events.
Who is responsible for some of these Grandiose Events like 911? Not I or
you as I see it. But it is your perspective and choice to feel
semi-responsible for whatever...
On 911 day, one little girl said to her Mother:
"Mom what have we done to these people that they are so mad at us?"
(Peter Jennings channel) Awful good question I thought!
The turmoil in the world is the result of many causes old and new. The one
thing causes the other. It is what is needed in the world at this time or
period. The Kali Yuga! Have you seen this?: www.soulwise.net/25h-cdn.htm
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Gerardus here:
Your universal One is unconsciousness that becomes consciously aware
of who or what it is by means of you and I and/or us.
Jo here:
This is how I see it: There is not a "your universal One" or
"my universal One", there is only one universal One. It is
the consciousness of all `consciousnesses' in the universe combined.
Gee here:
Yes! It is all consciousness - BUT is it "aware"? Is it self-aware?
Does it know who or what it is and why? Does it know itself??
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Jo here:
Thus It is a multidimensional Super-Consciousness, an All-
Consciousness, or All-Entity, far more conscious than any of its
parts. Since our own personal consciousness is limited, we are not
aware of the Super-Consciousness. IOW, we are unconscious of it.
Because we are unconscious of it, You, Gerardus, call All-Entity
the "universal Unconsciousness". IMHI, this is a misnomer,
because All-Entity is the essence of consciousness itself.
Gerardus here:
If the multidimensional Super-Consciousness, or All-Consciousness, or
All-Entity, is far more conscious than any of its parts as you say above -
why does it have all these parts or aspects? Why does it have us? Are we
its pets? Are we its entertainment? Does it find enjoyment in seeing parts
of itself tortured? Molested or murdered? It already knows all things as
you say - it is super conscious! If so, why bother to have these parts or
aspects OR come down to earth and become tortured by a torturer? Would you
come down if you are that smart or high up? For what??
The All-Consciousness or Creator/Creation IS Man in a semi-unconscious state
of awareness and it lives on earth in order to gain more awareness. If as
you say it is fully consciously aware already - you and I would not be here
- talking...
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Jo here:
Why is it important how we think of All-Entity? Because, if we want
to awaken, if we want to become conscious of All-Entity, we must
identify with It as much as possible. Therefore, to become more
conscious, I prefer to identify with All-Consciousness rather than
with Unconsciousness.
Gerardus here:
Our identity IS the Creator/Creation. We are just not fully aware of this -
because the process of becoming fully consciously aware is experienced by us
in a time setting. It is a process! If we would be able to drop the past,
the future and our personal history - we would be fully aware as
Creator/Creation or the Christ or Buddha...
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Gerardus here, concerning creating our own reality and therefore
being responsible for it:
Yes, I have read that before and I see things a bit differently. All
this ties in with who creates what. I do feel that: we do not create
ALL the realities we experience. IOW: whatever we meet is not
necessarily a result of our own thinking consciously or
unconsciously. There are a lot of other creators here and we all live
in the same environment. All of us create what is - but now all of us
create what's happening.
Jo here:
We create our reality individually and collectively, and we
experience both. However, the degree to which we are affected by the
collective experience is determined by our own individual mindset,
which we can control by pursuing a mode of conscious living.
***
We
create our reality by "tuning in" to a certain sector of
multi-dimensional reality, which harbors potentially all possible
outcomes (see quantum physics' multiple worlds).
Gerardus here:
I agree with what you say up to the multiple worlds idea. Where the *** is
above. My view is that there are multiple worlds only in our minds because
we all have different ideas about our world. These worlds exist in our
seemingly personal mind ONLY! We have a certain awareness of the world and
what we all think we know - is different for each of us. There is no
objective world out there. It only exist in our mind. No wonder there are
so many!
Then - I do not want to go and read too much about the scientific
explanations. They are too scientific and usually need correction every few
years or so. They clog my thinking. I want to get the picture straight from
an intuitive perspective. Not through thinking... or scientific material...
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Jo here:
And one last comment about responsibility:
Your perception of responsibility depends on your perception of
yourself, of who you are. Do you identify with your body, your mind,
your self, or your soul? It is a matter of choice. Society tends to
identify your self when judging you responsible for your actions. I
personally try to identify with humankind as much as reasonable and I
accept some degree of co-responsibility. I believe that each
individual's thoughts and actions have some effect on the whole
of humanity. I wrote my book because of this. I chose to accept this
responsibility. And yes, I chose to be responsible for however I
influence my environment. It wasn't always so, but I feel better
this way. It has something to do with love and caring.
Gerardus here:
What you say/feel is a personal perspective. My view is that we also
influence the world with our positive thoughts. It all comes down to this:
since we are "collectively" responsible for the so called Good and the Bad -
it all balances out in the end...
By "collectively" I also mean co-creators beyond the 3D humanity clan.
Also, what we as humans see as Good or Bad is only a human connotation, or
human terms or human understanding. I do NOT see Good or Bad as something to
be collectively responsible for. I see Life -- and it is living itself. Any
human term applied to this is only a human perspective. Life or The IS -
has its own perspectives - it's perspective is to awaken to itself
anywhichway it sees fit! It is not a neat and tidy affair...
----------------
Here is an example:
Suppose you help some poor person down the street who is illiterate. You
help the person to read. So, the person learns to read after a year. Five
years later you hear that this person is picked up because he was a member
of a team that bombed a certain building. Turns out that the person you
taught to read went to the Internet and read about making bombs. He took it
up as a profession and helped other people who he sympathized with to make
their bombs...
Now! Was it good, bad, or indifferent to help this person to read? Are you
responsible in a negative sense because you helped him to read? The one
thing causes the other. Good or Bad does not play a role in universal terms...
Meanwhile, I see Life as ALL Good because in the end there are no losers.
But in no way am I responsible in some way for your bomb maker or the guy in
the white house having his personal war and the torturing bits and pieces.
All this belongs to the lessons mankind needs to learn. All I can do and do
- is watch it from afar and observe. I see people struggling and growing in
awareness. I do not see Good or Bad to be responsible for...
We will all awaken one day - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:14:34 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Our Responsibility
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 03:07 PM 13/05/2004, you wrote:
--- Gerardus wrote:
Yes! In one of my articles I explain that we do not
live in bodies but in Clouds of Energy - which are
directly connected with all other Clouds of
Energy - while ALL Clouds of Energy in Creation make
up All-Entity...
Sal here:
Yes -- I've had several direct experiences of that.
HOWEVER (and this is a BIG however) I have also
experienced that the Cloud of Energy I am has
awareness throughout the Universe. IOW, when I am in a
higher state, I DO become aware of the entire
Universe, at least to some extent, because I am
non-local. My awareness is no longer confined to time
and space.
Hello Sal - Gerardus here:
I would like to make some comments here but not from my experiences. What I
say is from what I imagined or intuited or pondering about it. I know from
knowing so to speak and not from experiencing. I never had any
extra-ordinary experiences - but I am chuck full of Ahas so to speak...
Comments on what you say above:
Yes, I can understand that and the trick for you would be to gain control
over that. Maybe the trick is to go from Cloud to Sky...
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Sal here:
I guess you could say that we merge with the Universe
and the Universe IS aware of itself. We become
infinite mind, infinite awareness, omnipresence,
omnipotence, omniscience, etc.
Gerardus here:
I like to suggest that you become aware of what you actually are and that
would mean that You/Universe becomes aware of itself - we are the Universe!
But the Universe by itself is a dead issue without "you" so to speak - it
only works because of you! You are the conscious witness or observer so to
speak. The universe without you is not aware of anything since it is
incomplete. Only when the seemingly Two merge or become ONE this happens...
Sal here:
We have a choice. We can keep our awareness in our
little bubble, or we can merge our bubble with the
infinite bubble. We are then aware of everything.
Of course, we are also individualized, and that
individualized aspect is only aware of bits and pieces
of the whole.
Gerardus here:
Switching back and forth is the trick naturally. There has to be some kind
of self-awareness I feel and it maintains itself except when it blends with
the ONE. IF THAT is the ONE? I do not know for sure. As a matter of fact I
know next to nothing for sure. I am just a good guesser maybe... --------------
Gee:
IOW: We live in a Universal Cloud called the
Universal Mind or Energy, and
our bodies are our illusions and do not really exist
- except as a teaching
device for the Cloud of Energy or Soul we are. We
temporarily live in
self-created illusionary cocoons...
Sal:
Agreed. Our bodies are merely vehicles or instruments
designed to perceive individuality. They are neutral
-- neither bad nor good. They can be made to be
whatever we want them to be, just as we can make a
simple calculator or a supercomputer.
Gerardus here:
Yes, that is a good example. Our Individual bodies are not limited by five
senses - but can expand into a million senses of all kinds so to speak. I
feel that expanding in intuition will beat ALL other "gifts?" because it
would mean that we Know Radically "what is". Knowing without thinking...
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Gee:
Now, here it comes:
my view is, that there is NO BEING that lives within
the One Universal Mind,
who is aware of EVERYTHING that goes on in this
Infinite Cloud...
Sal:
Here's where our views begin to diverge. My experience
is that there IS a universal consciousness that is
aware of everything. It is impersonal and available to
anyone who chooses to take one's awareness away from
sequential time and space and go into the void.
Gerardus here:
Yes! That impersonal universal consciousness IS what WE all are. BUT...
BUT... for this trip we have left it behind in order to become seemingly
separate human beings in order to experience the human condition. Now, I
say that this impersonal consciousness is not able to do anything in and by
itself! It needs the aspect we are in order to make sense to itself...
It needs a body of some kind in order to become consciously aware of itself
as a Being, enlightened to different levels -or- the Creation as a whole. It
depend on what's needed to awaken the slumbering Total. So what I say is,
that seemingly we separated from ourselves and both separated aspects are
incomplete and basically useless until they merge fully again...
I feel that we have separated ourselves from our wholeness in different
ratios all throughout what we call time and space - just to experience what
we could do or could get away with. It is a MIND-PLAY that we play with
ourselves. All this includes a lots of fooling ourselves...
----------------------
Gee:
What I am saying here is, that there is NO GOD or
TIL or All-Entity, who is
AWARE of EVERYTHING that is happening in the
Universal Mind or Universe.
There are only certain Entities or Beings who are
aware of certain things!
Sal:
There are beings at every level of the Universe --
some have microscopic limited awareness and some have
the awareness of entire galaxies. In fact, galaxies
are conscious beings on a higher level. We are Gods in
our own right, living in a sea of Godhood that is
simultaneously aware of itself and the entities that
make up its body.
Gerardus here:
I agree! These greater conscious beings or co-creators as I call them, need
some kind of body to be that Entity - while at all time the All-Energy flows
through them to complete them! The thing to grasp is I think, that there is
only one THING or ENERGY and we could call this ENERGY Creator/Creation. It
makes up ONE Phenomenon. There are billions of ways then, to seemingly
separate this ONE, in seemingly two or thousands and become confused in that
state. Like mankind does when we basically live in bodies - with no
Universal Energy or Infinite Subconsciousness "flowing" through it. We
become robots without TIL flowing through us to make sense to ourselves. We
become aberrations of nonsense. Well, all this is an experience and we are
having it...
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Gee:
These things or happenings could be in the millions
- but even a million
happenings are "zero" compared to an infinite amount
of happenings. IOW:
even the Greatest Beings are "unconscious" of most
of what goes on in the
Universe in Total...
Sal:
The vast majority of individualized souls are probably
only aware of a tiny fraction of what is. Agreed.
Gerardus here:
Yes, but I say that all Beings, great or small, are "incomplete" depending
on how much they are able to let "The IS" flow through them. The IS plus
them makes up ONE. Either in seemingly separation is a distortion! Greater
Beings or super-co-creators, like Galaxies are enormously wise, but they are
Not "The IS" - or the Creator/Creation or TIL by themselves. They need "The
IS" to flow through them to make themselves useful...
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Gee:
This makes the Infinite Universe a local affair so
to speak,
because NOT ANY ONE BEING
is aware of the total...
This also means that any Being cannot be
responsible, consciously or
unconsciously, for what is happening in the Infinite
Universe - since it is
only aware of so much...
Sal:
I believe there is an impersonal BEING that is ONE
with EVERYTHING and, therefore, capable of being aware
of everything.
Gerardus here:
Yes, here is where we differ, but it does not bother me one bit to be wrong
on this one or any one. Basically, to me the universe only makes sense to
me, BECAUSE it moves from un- subconsciousness or The IS - The infinite
Subconsciousness or the ONE SOUL *to* Consciousness or full awareness. If it
already is fully aware there is no Mind-Game of Play. There is no reason for
Creation or the Created to be so to speak...
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sal here:
I'll tackle the free will issue later.
Gerardus here:
Yes, please do...
Meanwhile, the universe is what we make of it
BECAUSE we are the Creator - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 21:38:58 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: Our Responsibility
Jo here:
I just hope very much that you won't regret having invited me to
your forum because I am voicing several opinions that differ from
yours. Please understand that I expect these discussions lead to a
better insight by the participants, including myself.
Gerardus here:
Exactly!
A better understanding or at least a greater scope of understanding must come
from more than one viewpoint. If we all thought and or understood the same
thing - there would be no need for TriLite. Thank you for being here...
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Gerardus said:
What I am saying here is, that there is NO GOD or TIL or All-Entity,
who is AWARE of EVERYTHING that is happening in the Universal Mind or
Universe. There are only certain Entities or Beings who are aware of
certain things!
These things or happenings could be in the millions - but even a
million happenings are "zero" compared to an infinite amount of
happenings. IOW: even the Greatest Beings are "unconscious" of most
of what goes on in the Universe in Total...
This makes the Infinite Universe a local affair so to speak,
because NOT ANY ONE BEING is aware of the total...
Jo here:
Please consider that you are applying our limited logic to an
unlimited environment. As we cannot use the laws of physics to
explain spiritual reality, so we cannot use our customary common
sense for multi-dimensional situations. What appears infinite to us
does not have to be infinite to a multi-dimensional entity.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I realize this, but of course this limited logic counts for all of us.
So from our perspective, all we have are opinions or which ALL of them might
be false...
Jo here:
Picture a one-dimensional line that forms a closed loop, like a
rubber band. Imagine a one-dimensional entity that can move only
along this line, backward or forward, but it cannot imagine anything
other than a one-dimensional environment. For this creature, its
world is infinite because it will find no limitation in any direction
that it is aware of. Yet, we know, of course, that the loop is
limited when we see it on the 2-dimensional surface of our table.
Gerardus here:
I understand what you say. Meanwhile, the actual reality we are living in
and are experiencing is a mental phenomenon. We live in Mind! All
happenings and worlds with all their dimensions or densities therefore are a
reflection in our mind or imagination and they differ according to our own
level of mentality...
I say also for example, that the universe is a personal creation in our
personal mind. This mind is the universal mind for All-Enity's Mind IS OUR
Mind. There is but One Mind! We are just not directly consciously aware
enough of the actual size of this Mind and the situation at this stage,
because we have not reached that level of imagination or are not re-creating
the actual conditions we as the creator go through to live in our creation
as ME or YOU...
I say that the Creator became YOU and ME and Everybody in order to learn
what it created.
While is was creating it was not aware that it was creating and when it came
to live in its creation as YOU and ME it is not aware that it is the Creator
in most cases. It will eventually become aware that it is the Creator as
well as Creation - and I say that this is so!
We are the Creator and we dream. We as humans are figments in our dream -
all happenings are mental phenomenon. Once this Creator awakens within us -
IT will Know who or what it is - by means and because of us. Meanwhile,
Creation and/or the Created will vanish when we as the Creator awaken fully.
Humans are/were never real in the dream. We are illusionary beings...
I say that the Creator creates unconsciously -or- it is not aware that it
creates and/or that it is not aware that it lives in its creation while it
creates. It is not aware that it created its bodies. At some stage, it
enters its dream or creation. Once it lives in bodies it becomes consciously
aware by means of these bodies that it is BOTH - the Creator AND Creation -
and that Creation is/was its Dream. In other words you and I are the
Creator dreaming but we think we are awake...
I also say that we are the All-Entity or Creator and since our mind IS the
Creator's mind - means that at this moment in time or in the Creator's dream
- the Creator within me is not fully consciously aware. My point here also
is, why would this fully aware All-Entity (as you propose) want to live in a
limited state of mind or life if it was fully aware what it was doing?
Would you in your right mind live in a dump or live in the gutter?
Jo here:
The same was true for humans who did not know yet that they lived on a
globe. For them their world was infinite. We also think that our 3-D space
extends infinitely in all directions. Yet we know since Einstein that it is
"warped" in a 4-D environment, and scientists believe that it runs into
itself equivalent to a sphere. Quantum Metaphysics assumes that All-Entity
has more dimensions than anything else in the universe and therefore
All-Entity consciously encompasses everything, even though "everything"
appears infinite to us.
Gerardus here:
What Einstein and all other scientists are telling us are self-created
theories that I call opinions or Mind-Speak. They are learned opinions and
every couple of years other scientists revise them and add or subtract
something from what was said before. All science is a help - but not the
answer to what is. Only radical knowing call tell us what is - I feel...
The universe is not a logic thing and or can NOT be explained by the
reasoning mind. The reasoning mind circles within its own self-created
assumptions or realities - all Mind-Speak...
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Jo here:
How is it possible for All-Entity to be aware of All-that-Is?
Quantum Metaphysics as well as virtually all credible channelings and
modern views claim that All is One.
Gerardus here
Yes, all is ONE - we are that ONE! All That Is or the Oneness -are- all
happenings in creation in our own mind. It all happens in our mind - not
out there! It happens in our mind but this does not mean that this mind
(our mind) knows "all" because we as a limited certain being at this time
are this mind or imagination...
The difference between what you and I say is this:
You say All-Entity is something that already exists...
I say that I am in the process of creating All-Entity and that it is Me...
Jo here:
Only our limited consciousness
prevents us from seeing this directly. Now, if I am one with All-
entity, then All-Entity experiences whatever I experience, right?
Gerardus here:
No! You are in the process of creating that All-Entity - it is You! Most
of that All-Entity lives within you in an unconscious state. My point is
that you will never know someone else's All-Entity! Your and mine
All-Entity is our subconsciousness - The IS. Although you and I have or are
the same Infinite Subconsciousness or ONE Soul! You and I are here to
awaken the Giant! Not the other way around......
Now, this is hard to put in words because my All-Entity and I are ONE in the
first place. So let's say it is a 50/50 deal. But without me, the body - my
All-Entity would never awaken...
Same for yours naturally... It is late here and I try to hurry this. I
will send it and check it tomorrow...
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Jo here:
I believe that you, Gerardus, accept your own oneness with what I call
All-entity, yes? If you do, then you must also accept that All-Entity
encompasses All-that-Is.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I am One with my All-Entity but most of it is unconscious within me. It
is up to me to awaken it - it's my task. That is why I as the All-Entity
was born and live to slowly progress in awareness until I Know MySelf
totally... We are all incarnations of the ONE we are...
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Jo here:
In fact, this is the definition of All-
Entity. All-Entity has no limits. It is infinite Itself from our
point of view. This does not mean that All-Entity cannot identify
with everything. Because then It wouldn't be All-Entity any more.
Gerardus here:
Well, as you can see - I am going around and around and the basic difference
is that your logic is perfect but my awareness or understanding does not
accept solutions that come from the reasoning mind only. To me - the
universe is an irrational or intuitive reality. Not explainable with reason
or logic...
Since You do such a good job with your logic - attracted me to your book.
But your book is not necessarily MY solution to knowing what is. There is
more to it and it is not logic that will get me there. This is what I
intuit. If it was logic or just plain reasoning - our friend Einstein or
someone else would have given us the answer...
The universe is a mystery and we are it! - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 10:42:42 -0700
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: About Helping Others...
At 02:05 AM 15/05/2004, you wrote:
Gee wrote:
And sometimes, although some of us have had these experiences, we still
think that the world needs to be saved or fixed somehow. Saved for what?
Does a curriculum of learning or lessons have aspects that need to be
changed, fixed or saved - while they are working perfectly?
Mahrouk here:
Hi Gee, Do you think it is feasible to include 'helping others' as part of
the curriculum?
Gerardus here:
Yes, helping others is definitely feasible and a good thing. I feel that we
need to be asked first! We must remember that we all have "the entire
universe behind us to listen to" - I say therefore: if they are not able to
listen to themselves (the Universe) - what is the use of me butting in?
For example, I had a neighbor and he is what I call a do-gooder. I asked
him why do you go out and do all this? Well, he said, I have nothing else
to do - it keeps me busy. Who is he helping? Others or himself?
Helping others because we think they need help might not work out to well.
Most often we interfere with the flow. In a big way, this is what Mr Push
was/is doing. Liberating Iraq - really? Another example is - do we help
others or our children by giving them all the money they want. Do we run
their life so to speak. Do we save them from trouble by trying to control
them. I say - let them be...
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Mahrouk here
IMO there would not be a fixed syllabus, like there is for
an entire class of children in a school? There must be a bit over 6 billion
curriculum, yes? And some of those include helping and even 'saving' ?
Gerardus here:
Well, the whole thing is a personal issue. Do what you see fit. When I speak
about not saving the world or anyone - I mean: do not put your nose into
other people's business - or some other nation's business. Or trying to
save lives by being against abortions. Or going from door to door to push a
religion or belief system. There are thousands of examples...
Life to me is a personal affair and if one is concerned about pollution -
all one can do is - do not pollute. Like driving the car as little as
possible and buying something economical. Ellen for example made her own
grocery bags in order not to use plastic bags or paper bags. The grocery
bags she uses have been used for the last 18 years or so. Be sensible and/or
conscious of things...
And yes, there are 6 to 7 billion different curriculums - we all have our
own. They all need to be lived by those who need to learn from them. The
world as it is, with all its so called imperfections is our place of
learning. I feel that what we all need to learn is to transcend the entire
scene. This naturally can and will include helping others when asked...
I feel that the main lesson we as a human being need to learn is to become
detached. We need to become Divinely Indifferent. We need to transcend the
world - not save it or fix it. This does not mean that when we are in a
position to be able to do something for the world or others to make it a
better place - that we should refuse to do so. Most often we might find
that what we think is better - in the end might not be! Often we interfere
and/or eliminate lessons that need to be learned by others...
Hope this explains what I said before - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 10:17:11 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: More on Milgram's torture studies
At 10:31 PM 15/05/2004, you wrote:
--- In TriLite@yahoogroups.com, Gerardus wrote:
At 07:36 PM 15/05/2004, you wrote:
Love is not feeling attracted to but a few
or having empathy with all those we also are.
It is the Understanding of All by letting them Be!
Hi G,
The unity occurs when you have become aware of the secrets within the
deep psyche and love yourself fully with all the darkness as well as
the light. It is the longing for unity within the self that is fulfilled.
The Divine Marriage.
Hi Mantis...
I like what you say and this might be so for you. But you realize that we
are all different expressions of the ONE and we are all different on
purpose. So what is so for you - is not necessarily so for another. There
are Beings in the universe for example who are "electrical" Beings more than
anything else. They have no emotions! BUT they also are the ONE!! So, we
have a tremendous variety of Beings who in a way might be able to learn from
each other and understand each other - but cannot change their make up to be
like others...
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Mantis here:
I was told, and I discovered that it was true, that my intellect was
my biggest defense against self-knowledge. In other words, I was too
smart for my own good. All the intellectualizing prevents the self
from knowing the self. The ego stays busy figuring things out and
analyzing rather than feeling. It gathers information and organizes
it. A necessary activity when balanced....a process rather than end
result. If the mind is always occupied in that way, the deep psyche
stays hidden and unknown. It remains in the dark. No dreams, no
psychic experiences, no feelings, no link-ups, no empathy, no
metaphorical thinking, no visions. A barren state, not pregnant with
possibility. Cold versus Warm.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I like what you say and I agree with most of it. But again we are all
different Beings and we are also in different stages of growth or
understanding. We are also "created" differently. We might even come from
different planets and are all here on earth together now in order to either
experience this place or help - who knows...
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Mantis here:
The old way is thinking we are mind, body and spirit. Father, son
and holy ghost. It is really: mind, emotions, body, spirit. Mother,
Father, children and holy spirit to be very simplistic with religious
terms about infinity. Sometimes the most simple is the most
profound. The four metaphorical elements.....I was told I had
forgotten water. Has the whole planet forgotten water?
Gerardus here:
Yes, this might be true for you. It might even be true for all. I cannot
say. It depend on our makeup and or what our curriculum or task is on earth
at this time. We all come to learn different things...
Also, I see THE ONE as a Neutral Vibration - The Infinite Light. It vibrates
and its vibrations "create" all things or patterns of which some are Beings,
who have learned how to "create" other beings. etc etc etc etc. So the
human branch of beings are also creators and create thoughts for example.
Thought form opinions...
We can only create thoughts or opinions, because we are an aspect of the
Original Vibration I called The Infinite Light. IOW: creation is a variety
of creators creating infinitely. The whole thing altogether is THE ONE - but
it consist of billions of Creators who do their own thing and/or might have
their own planets and experiments, including emotional and not emotional
Beings. All this means that what's good for you I might not even like...
--------------------
Mantis here:
Being intellectual is great; being shamanic is better.
Gerardus here:
If this is a universal law we will all find out that what you say is so. If
it is just your opinion - well it would mean that it would not be so for all
others...
Be Well and Vibrate High - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 19:15:19 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Once We Know...
To One and All... on TL... and Anywhere...
Once we know completely and totally - to the depth of our Being - that we
are the Creator of the human beings we are, all our concerns about ourselves
and others are over! Because we know then, that all of us are exactly what
we want to be! We also know then, that the game of Hide and Seek we play as
the Creator - is the method we as the Creator have created and adopted in
order to discover who or what we are...
So, once we know, that we are the Creator of the human beings we are, there
is also no responsibility involved, consciously or unconsciously, in
whatever others do or not do in the scenarios we play upon this Earth...
As a matter of fact, the way I see things - if we still feel responsible
for others in some sense - we have not completely understood to the fullest
depth possible, that we are the Creator of the human beings we are...
Truth is simple and things are exactly as they should be - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:11:46 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: detached / Gee
At 08:41 PM 14/06/2004, you wrote:
Gee wrote:
Is there anyone on TriLite who understands that I need to be short and
detached?
Mahrouk :
Hi Gee, it is my understanding that 'detached' is the ultimate goal - the
ultimate wisdom. It is, I feel, because you are detached that you can be
caring and effective. It is because you are detached that you can 'hear'
each individual That you act and don't re-act.
Detached = mind in neutral, as your books says.
I don't know what you mean by 'short' ? Your responses seem to be as long /
short as is required.
Hello Mahrouk...
What you say is So!
Now, this might seems ridiculous, but could I have been in better shape
Spiritually 20 years ago than I am now? Could the world and all its
"mind-speak" have distracted me?
I'll answer that one myself as well. Answer: Nonsense!
There is no better or worse or higher or lower. In the last 20 years I
became more and more involved in the nitty-gritty of trying to help others.
Other mind-sets rub off apparently. This does not mean that I am presently
better or worse than others - there is no such thing...
Lately however, I began to slowly retrace my thinking into the philosophy of
the One Creator/One Soul Reality and the representatives we all are of The
ONE. Simply put - We Are That One! All we do is play games and sometimes we
seemingly lose our way a bit - to eventually snap back on track to realize
that whatever we are and/or do is of no importance - but how we enjoy being
who or what we are - and love it - is! It is exactly as Leonard told us
today - he is a smart and wise man! This does not mean that I always agree
with him...
By "short" I meant not too polite necessarily but to the point. This possibly
might sound not too friendly to others - get used to it folks I am at full
speed...
Yes, detachment is the clue. While being too emotionally centered could lead
to being kept in 3D because you are good food for those who rule 3D...
I Am the Truth and have Opinions - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:09:51 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Free Will / Abu ?
At 08:59 PM 16/06/2004, you wrote:
Gee wrote:
If and when we understand (or overstand) that all Beings are the Infinite
One - there is no doubt left that we all have free will.
Mahrouk:
I feel there is an equally strong argument for the opposite :
If and when we understand (or overstand) that all Beings are the Infinite
One - there is no doubt left that we all have NO free will.
Hi Mahrouk...
Well, you know the saying that any truth worth its salt HAS an opposite that
is also true or truth. Half full - half empty kind of a deal!
Also, we could discuss for example that Free Will is a variable quality. It
increases with a ratio that depends on the Form or the Creature's level of
conscious awareness. So, a worm has very little free will. It does what it
does without knowing why or how. A human being on the other hand has more
Free Will...
Going up the ladder in conscious awareness above the human stage, well
eventually, the highest Beings have the most Free Will. They are the ones
who create and/or oversee particular aspects (or planets) of creation, etc.
So, Free Will is subject to the level of conscious awareness! As a matter
of fact, I like it that way and I feel that this is so (for now)...
Meanwhile, a worm and a human and/or a so called higher being "do" what they
do, by means of the constant interconnections they have with The IS - The
Infinite Subconsciousness. Meanwhile The IS becomes more and more "aware"
within the Being or Form it lives in! However, The IS does not have any
"visible-reality" on its own ever!
That is why I said this morning - there is no God or TIL.
Not a visible one anyhow - ever!
There is only Creation, because Creator = Creation = Us...
The IS - is only evident and lives within all its expressions *and* all
Beings and Things are expressions of IT. They all are the Truth or Reality
of The IS.
IOW: We see the Human but never see The IS or the Soul. Spirit
so to speak, is not visible from any density or level we find ourselves.
It is always hidden...
We see the Cookie but never see the Maker or the Baker - Gerardus
( Gerardus is a Cookie from the One Soul that resides within him )
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At 11:50 PM 16/06/2004, you wrote:
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Free Will / Abu ?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 11:50 PM 16/06/2004, you wrote:
Hi Gee,
I love these periodic Free Will discussions :) This is discussion No.
zillion !
Gee wrote:
We see the Cookie but never see the Maker or the Baker - Gerardus
( Gerardus is a Cookie from the One Soul that resides within him )
Mahrouk
Yes, Absolutely bang on!! Ramesh would agree- hehehehehehe AND he would ask,
"how much free will does a cookie have?"
Hi Mahroukie - Gerardus here:
If and when you see Ramesh, please give him my "Greetings" and show him the
following ---> The Cookie's Free Will is determined by the level of
awareness the Cookie enjoys. Since Gerardus is the Cookie - he would say
that he has about 10% Free Will presently - give or take a smidgen or two.
When his Awareness increases his Free Will will increase. For example when
he has learned to become aware of other regions of his infinite mind - he
can go there and experience these regions. These regions could be other
lifetimes - or rather the lifetimes of others altogether (Sometimes he does
this in his dreams).
It also means that Gerardus could teleport to other areas on earth as well
as other planets. His Freedom is directly related to the Level of Awareness
he is at. So, basically, we could say that a Gerardus like that - could
change the world - yes, he could! Fact is, that the world is exactly what
it is supposed to be - so he will not change it. He knows that the world is
a Training Ground for Awarenesses. He knows because he grew up there! That
is why Gerardus and other Human-TIL-Clones become Observers (for the most
part) and try to enjoy their ten percent of Free Will as much as possible.
Enjoyment or Joy is the impetus to higher levels of awareness. That's why
laughing is so important because it is a form of ultimate enjoyment. There
are other forms as well...
Hehehehehehe - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:47:13 -0700
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Chicken and Egg...
At 10:53 AM 17/06/2004, you wrote:
In a message dated 06/17/2004 12:08:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
mahrouk@vsnl.net writes:
I love these periodic Free Will discussions :) This is discussion No. Zillion !
John here: Me too. But, I haven't seen anything "new" of late. Maybe we can
get back to the "chicken or the egg" discussion --
also in its zillionth discussion.
Hi John - Gee here:
Yes, the chicken and the egg have been discussed a few times. I think that
at one time I solved that problem - well at least for me! It's in one of my
articles I think as well - but I do not know which one anymore. Anyway -
the actuality of the chicken/egg happening takes place in an
"mind-energy-environment" and not in an illusionary place or dream we as
human are subjected to. IOW: what we see of the chicken and her egg is an
illusion. There is no time - there is no space in actuality - except in our
dream or illusion...
Anyway, the universal mind or energy constantly changes or moves - it's a
movement or happening that never stops and it takes place in mind only - in
consciousness only! What we see in physical reality is a slowed down
version of this universal-mind-energy and what we call reality is actually
an illusion. Our sense of Time and Space distorts what's really happening
with the chick and her egg. Means that the chicken and her egg are
One-Universal-Energy doing its thing. Humans are looking for cause and
effect and there are none in actuality...
BTW:
I checked all my articles and no chickens and eggs there.
I found an old post though and it contains about the same thing I said above.
Here it is:
Needless to say that no one knows who or where that source is, because they
keep looking for it. Where is my source? .. Where is my beginning? .. Where
do I come from and why? My puzzle is, how can they find it if they do not
know what they are looking for? After years of going places they find out
that they are the source themselves. It stuns them into silent laughter for
sure. It all works the same as the chicken and the egg. Who came first?
No big deal! When we take this illusionary time away - no one is first or last
- everything just sits there! It's just like a cell dividing itself on TV -
they just split into two because they became too big for their own good.
Life is a dream of many things, but there is but one dreamer. Most likely
it's an infinite Holographic Light - splitting itself into pieces of
different colored Light that move about chasing shadows of their own making.
Why bother...
The One thing IS the other and they change places - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:16:52 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Free Will / Gee
At 07:46 AM 18/06/2004, you wrote:
Gee wrote:
The Cookie's Free Will is determined by the level of
awareness the Cookie enjoys.
Mahroukie
I'm having a tough time imagining an 'aware', Cookie. I keep smiling at the
image. Imagine biting into an aware cookie :) It might not like it.
Gerardus here:
No doubt it does not like it! That is why it snaps or makes noises.
One is lucky when it does not bite back... Ouch!
Then, all things, beings and creatures have an awareness-system to suit
their beingness. So, maybe some cookies are saint-cookies and like to be
bitten in half. Others make soft sounds when you bite into them - they were
not quite done yet maybe and declared a cookie before they were ready. Then,
on the other hand, I have had some that were tough. They must have been of
the "Tough Cookie" family. I even had some that did not crumble at all and
they crumbled my false teeth instead. Takes all kinds...
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Mahrouk here:
What is an 'aware' cookie. An object with awareness ?
Gerardus here:
Yes, indeed an object with awareness.
Some of them are declared Mexican Jumping Beans.
They make fascinating toys for boys...
And yes, I do think/feel that objects or places or houses have a certain
vibration (read awareness) that feels strange when you go there. I always
used to sit in my new motor homes for hours to give it my vibration! It's
the same with cars I find. What used to be my car is now Ellen's car and
when I get in there - it feels strange. Sometimes it makes funny noises,
some kind of bird sound or squeaks. It's a Ford Thunderbird. Maybe it is
getting too old!
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Gee
Since Gerardus is the Cookie - he would say
that he has about 10% Free Will presently
Mahroukie
Did the 10% come up with that percentage or the 90%??
Who or what controls 90%
Gerardus here:
Yes! The 10% decides. When it knows that it needs to decide is called the
Most Important Moment of Magic. It's Self-Becoming and some call it the
Becoming of Self! The 10% all of a sudden knows that it has a greater side.
One could call it 90%, but it might be infinite. Hard to tell for a 10%
being...
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Gee:
Fact is, that the world is exactly what
it is supposed to be - so he will not change it.
Mahroukie
Who decided this is the way it is supposed to be. An actor? A Cookie?
The 90%er? the 10%er?
Gerardus here:
Well, do you know anything I wonder? The actor or the 10%er decides that!
It does that by means of the silent messages it gets from the 90%er. The
10%er also, and always, needs to decide what it is going to do with the
90%er. After all it is the subconsciousness of the 10%er and it must learn
how to control it or else. The more the 10%er knows how to direct or
control the 90%er - the more aware the 10%er becomes. Whatever percentage it
awakens in the 90%er becomes an aspect of the 10%er. One could say that it
gains Personal Power over the Sleeping Giant or the Subconscious Infinite
Self. Some jokers call this The IS...
The 90%er does not decide anything - it just sits there waiting to be
directed or controlled. It is not a Wanter, it is a Waiter. It also has
no free will, because the 10%er got hold of it first...
Then, the only thing cookies decide is the way they crumble.
They are unique in that...
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Mahroukie here:
What you say may indeed be so. All I know is, I know NOTHING.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I know it is not much, but one does not have to know much, except how
to listen to the Sleeping Giant. It waits to be awakened and whisper about
this. The how and when is up to the 10%er. It has control...
Mahroukie here:
Free will! No free Will. 10% going on 90%...who knows and who cares :)
Gerardus here:
Well, there is a secret involved here that cannot be revealed to those who
insist on knowing. Their insistence forms a shield that keeps the 90%er out.
It means the 10%er is alone and spins wheels a lot. It's a bit like being
set on automatic pilot by someone who forgot what he did. Means whatever it
is set at - it will begin to do its work when the shield is dissipated.
Time eats it so to speak and Space does the swallowing...
Mahroukie here:
I simply cannot 'logically' understand how a 10%er can understand,
discuss & 'know' the 90%
Gerardus here:
It is not a matter of 'logicality' in the first place and also not of
understanding or overstanding or overstating by means of discussions or
words. Most make it more difficult. The less words the better. It's a
matter of Trust! The Main Clue is - how did it get to be a 10%er in the
first place? Most are 9 8 7 or less. Many are below 3 - which is animal
like...
Life is a matter of trusting the Inner Self - which is 100% or more. It's an
irrational grasp so to speak that whispers lullabys to the ego and promotes
awakening of the 90%er more and more...
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Mahroukie here:
Gee knows the Cookie but it's not likely that Cookie knows Gee? Unless the
cookie becomes aware but then it's not a cookie hummmmm..
Gerardus here:
There is a relationship between all things that has an increasing effect
upon all things and it depends on the physical closeness of them. Works
like Gravity! Means the closer the cookie comes to the biter - the more the
two become One...
Truth is Simple - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:34:10 -0700
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Earth-Ship sinking fast...
Canary Peg here: This is VERY LONG post/speech and I dont know if Mahrouk
has mentioned it in any of her posts as I'm kind of behind in my reading.
It does sound very positive for India's future let's hope the 'we' that he
talks about is the majority of the Parliament.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's Address New Delhi, 24 June 2004
My Fellow Citizens,
I speak to you with a deep sense of humility, fully conscious of the sacred
responsibility entrusted to me. You have assigned the task of governance of
our country to the United Progressive Alliance and its supporting parties.
You have delivered your verdict and the verdict is clear. You have sought a
change in the manner in which this country is run, a change in national
priorities, and a change in the processes and focus of governance. You have,
through your mandate, made it clear that economic growth has to be
accompanied by equity and social justice. You have expressed concern for the
poor and disadvantaged sections of our society and for minorities and
backward regions to be at the heart of all policies of the government.
----------------------------
Hello Peg...
Thank you for your post.
In some moments presently, I see the earth and mankind as a ship that is
sinking fast. Then I wonder - is it still worthwhile to appoint a new
Captain on this ship?
I have a feeling that from now until 2012 there is little that can be done
to stop our earth-ship from sinking. Those in control - control the plug in
the bottom. It is their intention to sink the ship! They feel that when
mankind is down and out - they will look-up to their leaders as their Saviors.
I see this sinking as a destiny that cannot be reversed immediately, because
the Masses are blind to the fact that the earth is sinking fast. I see all
this also as just another experience - nothing more nothing less. HOWEVER,
it is most important HOW we see and experience the sinking. Unless the
masses awaken fast - we will be sinking faster. That is what I see as the
destiny of 3D mankind in some moments presently. Could this sinking also be
just another lesson of detachment?
Comments on this are welcome? - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 17:07:45 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Quantum healing and the Objectification of Belief
At 04:16 PM 02/07/2004, you wrote:
RE Subj: [TL] re: rewiring brain cicuitry..
Date: 07/02/2004 11:27:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: rainbowlen@yahoo.com
Reply-to: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Leonard here...
In my understanding that we create our own reality absolutely, based
on our beliefs and our thoughts..... and so you can only have
epilepsy, or any other phisical/mental condition if you believe you
can. It is that simple. I now believe in perfect good health,
absolutely.
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John here:
I am of the absolute belief that what you say here (above) is
true and have had my own practical demonstrations of its efficacy. However,
I have allowed myself to be diagnosed with several debilitating dis-eases and
am having present difficulty in applying the ayruvedic principles together
with physical fitness training that would create the blissful, healed state.
I would like to discuss with others what mental discipline or changes in
thinking they used IF they have been able to "defy medical prognosis" and
create their own healing.
IF Dick Sutphin had a newsgroup (List) such as TriLite; I would bring
the subject up with him and his list, but, he does not so I bring it up
here.
Please note his weekly column, copied below, which affirms these precepts
without any qualification.
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Hello John - Gerardus here:
I agree with Leonard, I agree with you, I agree with Dick Sutphen, I agree
with Carlos Castaneda, I agree with this "It is done unto you AS YOU
BELIEVE" and I agree with myself. (Did I forget anyone?)
This myself says: all you speak of in your post John is possible - but only
to those who have reached, what I call: the state of being "A Master of the
Physical Plane". It means you can multiply fishes until you plug up the
ocean and you can pass out bread to a million hungry people on a million
planets...
Meanwhile, all of us are in the "process of learning" all these Mind over
Matter accomplishments. Since we live in a condition we call Time - learning
this takes Time! It comes down to this - we have been so conditioned by our
own distractions and nonsense, that our very thinking created misguided
thought-pathways in our brain that form a track we stick to. Means we keep
walking/thinking according to the old pathways and at the moment only know
that all this is possible. Learning to do all this is what all of us are
working on and some of us are a bit further along than others...
These old pathways made it possible to go deeper into our Matter Creation
and the time has come to get back out of it. We got down here on purpose and
no doubt we will get out of it when the time is right. The more we are
reaching 2012 - the more I feel we will be reaching for the Master of the
Physical Plane accomplishments...
At the moment, I do not know or remember of any specific "mental discipline
or changes" that might guide you/us. I am facing the same "old age trick"
that is being pulled on me by my conditioning. Meanwhile, your question or
inquiry is of great importance to all of us...
Let's discuss it and see - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:27:29 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: Incan capital looked to heavenly puma
Hi David - Mantis here:
Does everyone just accept this and say, "Oh well, it has nothing to
do with me?" No one feels the slightest remorse over the actions of
our particular species? Do they think they are somehow not connected
to the rest of the members of the species who are doing these things?
Aren't we all part of the whole?
Hello Mantis...
Regardless of what David answers - here is my view on this:
Yes, we are all part of the whole and the "whole" or "humanity" is playing
in a performance called "The Evolution of Human Consciousness through and by
means of the 3D Realm". This Evolution takes millions of years so to speak
and/or thousands of lifetimes. In this 3D Circus of Duality we all play our
roles like all actors do. We learn from playing our roles...
Now - do you think that it is necessary for example that one group of
actors feels emotionally involved or "responsible" for what another group
does to them or others? Next time around, we play the so called bad or
negative roles or characters in order to experience the Performance from the
other side of the duality picture. We are here to experience the good and
the bad - we live at present in that KIND of a World - in that KIND of a
setting - and/or - we are playing that KIND of a performance...
From what I see - the only thing one can do is, to become completely
detached to what goes on any place - we cannot interfere with the Play as
Such. That does not mean that we need to be totally indifferent to what goes
on, but we need to accept all actions with a "Divine Indifference" and
understand that it is necessary in order to raise the level of Humanity's
Awareness as the Whole. This Whole or Humanity is going through this
Awareness Evolution by means of playing roles in Global Settings and/or
living different lives being different actors...
The result of becoming totally detached is, that there is one less person
taking sides. If and when all people become totally detached - all the
fighting and misery will stop automatically. We are coming close to that
kind of human awareness level - which is being raised with the highest
possible speed just the way things are going. IOW: all things are as they
should be. Feeling responsible for something that is beyond our personal
control is a bit like feeling guilty - these kind of feeling lower the
general awareness level of humanity as a whole. Feeling free and detached
and joyful raises this level as I see it...
Playing my role as I see it - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:59:06 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Please clarify .. was .. Dorothy and Marvin?
Gerardus here to John:
Hello John...
Yes, weird indeed, but it is business as usual. As long as the masses
are disinterested in what has been going on for decades, if not ages,
they will be fed more lies and nonsense. I do feel that eventually it
will all come out into the open. In order for the world to change
and/or improve, the Rulers of the World and their Puppet-Governments -
need to fall like Dominoes in a row... It is just a matter of when -
Gerardus
Kate here:
>And what happens then?? The sheeple take over? Please clarify.
Hello Kate...
Yes, yes, wouldn't you like to know what the future is all about.
Naturally, it is not going to happen in all countries all at one - just the
one after the other. Meanwhile, the "governing-structure in waiting" for
each country will come into being. Yes, I do believe that there are some
kind of governing-structures in the Countries of the Main Players. They
will pop out of hiding before the sheeple knows what's happening, because
the sheeple like the present leaders, will still be sitting there stunt as
to what happened. And yes, there even might be some revolutionairy actions
here and there - but in general the sheeple will understand that there are
no solutions by means of violence. The Awareness Level of the masses might
have tripled by that time...
The awareness level of those ready to "govern" might surprise even us on TL
possibly. Yes, I do feel that there are Christed Beings in particular places
in this world presently - who came just for that purpose. If not, some might
even secretly manifest on the spot. Yes, most of this is speculation and or
wishful thinking. Why not? Also, it's pretty good for a round of
discussion. Remember Greg Smith? Mattie Stephanic? There could be
hundreds of these young people all over the world we do not know about...
Who's next to comment? - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:55:50 -0700
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Recap of Prophet's Conference
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 11:52 AM 18/10/2004, you wrote:
Sal's post:
I was impressed with the simplicity of Peter Russell's explanation of
how science and spirituality are coming together. In little more than
one hour, he presented a complete and compelling lesson on how
everything is consciousness, everything is God, everything is TIL.
A certain wise moderator has been saying this for a long time.
Hello Sal...
Glad you gave us your insights and experiences of the meeting in Sedona. The
whole Sedona area is a high energy one! Everything there seems to be
multiplied by at least three times. In the mean time, indeed all things are
TIL at work (within us and through us) AND I have come to the conclusion
that it really does not matter what we think/feel, or do about any and/or
all situations - except that what we do or not do - might make us feel
better. IOW: it gives us the idea that we are helping. All along - the
whole thing has already been determined as planned by the Will of TIL -
which manifested itself within us all along and made us do what we did or
didn't do in the first place...
It's like blowing bubbles in a blizzard - whichever way we blow, they all go
the Blizzard Way. We have free will - but only because we think we have.
The ideas or concepts that become reality by means of us - were planned
before we accepted the body we presently live in. TIL and it's plan are a
Cosmic Computer Program and all we do - is 'witness' its workings and we
think we know something...
No one has to agree with the above and everybody is allowed to think/feel
whatever is attractive to them. I say that the universe unfolds exactly as
it should regardless of what we think and/or do. The trick is to enjoy what
is happening once we have reached the Level of Cosmic Observer. I truly
sound like Ramesh now - don't I Mahroukie? I think I've got it figured out.
Nothing matters in the end except the insight and enjoyment of the present...
Please disagree with all this if it pleases you - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:22:57 -0700
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Infinity after Infinity...
Gerardus turn here:
The masses will never become enlightened. The masses will only move up and
down according to their limited thinking within the cycles the curriculum
has to offer. From within these masses, one or two or a hundred Entities
eventually see through it all and surge ahead to the task at hand by means
of independent thinking that will determine their destiny. The destiny of
reaching TIL, they always were in the first place, but in distorted form...
In the long run, no Entities will miss its Goal, or Self, or TIL - Gerardus
( We do this again and again infinity after infinity )
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:48:33 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Second Response...
DavidM here:
Hi Gerardus,
This opens a new, and very interesting area of discussion. I don't believe
in reincarnation, and I don't disbelieve it. It may be that reincarnation is
true, and yet at a deeper level, there is a more profound truth. Maybe it's
not impossible for time oriented humans to get a timeless overview, just
extremely difficult.
Kenneth Wapnick, in "A Vast Illusion" wrote:
"Time, thus, is just another device the ego uses - obviously a very powerful
one, as is its use of death, space, and the body - to keep concealed the
truth about ourselves. This truth is of course that we are eternal spirit.
The ego would have us believe that our identity is in our body bound by time
and space. Thus the body serves as a most effective smokescreen, distracting
our attention from the mind, where we truly are."
If the past causes the present then we are trapped in a hopeless situation.
We can't change the past because it doesn't exist. On the other hand, if the
present causes the future we are free. Karma can be undone by a change of
mind. Mohandas Ghandi showed us how to do that. As you wrote, we bless all
those involved on either side. Ghandi drove the British empire from India
with love, understanding and courage.
Hello David - Gerardus here: (Second response)
In many of my articles I have written that the Physical Reality is a Dream.
With the above in mind we need to re-examine this Dream again...
Like Kenneth Wapnick says: we are eternal spirit...
Yes, indeed! We are Spirit-Energy in Bundles or Clouds so to speak and each
of us has its own Cloud to take care of and/or play with. This is what we
as Individualized Energy do for now - and we will do this - until we
consciously join all other Individualized Clouds or Energies. This could be
called Enlightenment...
As this Individualized Cloud of Energy (or aspect of eternal spirit) we are
having dreams. Billions of them! In some of these dreams, we dream that we
are Physical and have a Physical Body. The body and all things physical
however are illusions and they are encountered as real only - because we
live in one of these bodies. The body makes the physical real! The body in
other words deceives or fools us. It fools the Spirit We Are! The body or
ego "creates" a reality that is not really there. It just looks that way.
There is only Mind...!
Now, when we look at re-incarnation again, we could say that from the
Physical Side we incarnate, while from the Spirit-Energy Side we only have
dreams. As I said before, some of these dreams make us believe that we
incarnate because the body fools us. We as Aspects of Spirit do not really
go anywhere...
So who re-incarnates?
I do feel that the Creative Energy or Spirit we are, the Creator, dreams -
and when the dream is "lived" as we live it - we could call it incarnation
or re-incarnation. Re-incarnation then is therefore Real and Not Real.
When we are in the Physical there are two side to the universe. When we
understand the above however - there is but One Side - the Spirit or the
Creator's Side...
WE ARE THAT! - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:28:26 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] re.. Quantum Questions..
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 02:52 AM 15/12/2004, you wrote:
Leonard here...
It seems to me that if we are to comprehend 'reality' as opposed to
the 3D Illusion we take as our reality, we need to accept that there
is no time and no space, and indeed no movement. Being strictly
scientific, of course. No time, no space, no motion! ...there you
have reality, creation, AllThatIs, what I am...and we are,,,,TIL!
Here are a few scientific clues from Bashar,second only to Seth,IMO.
With Love, Leonard.
Bashar: Space Travel and Artificial Intelligence
Q: Can you tell us of a particular scientific breakthrough that we
would need, or a principle that we would need to understand, in order
to evolve our space travel or our advancement -- one that you know of
particularly, that if we could get it, we'd be really advanced?
B: Yes. You are very close right now. Many of the individuals within
your society who call themselves physicists understand -- I'll say,
are beginning to understand -- that what you term in your society
traveling in space is in a sense traveling on the skin of space, not
really through it.
Hi Leonard... (Thank You)
Good piece from Bashar! Excellent!!
What we need to do to understand "what is" - is this: we must learn to see
ourselves as Energy. The Energy of Awareness. TIL (The Infinite Light). It
is present infinitely as itself within itself, holding different nodes of
energy (light-vibrations) which form all the created in all densities. As
this Awareness we can "move" from node to node and be them at will...
Maybe to practise this we need to try a simple exercise first. Let's say:
You be Me and I be You. The point of this exercise actually means that
nobody will notice - not even ourselves. So what's the use? Let's forget
about it. Infinite Life "is" for the FUN of it...
Let's just be the best fun we can be - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 10:28:39 -0800
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Reading from Sal..
At 07:24 PM 3/5/2005, you wrote:
Gerardus Everardus Tros
December 25 1927, Hoorn, The Netherlands.
Sal here:
Okay, a few highlights. This may seem a bit bizarre, but I'm seeing that you
were a disciple of Krishna during his time on the Earth. You were also a
practical jokester (represented as the "Fool" in the Tarot). You were very
enlightened without a care in the world. Others tried to imitate you but
failed due to their unresolved karmic issues.
I see no karmic lessons remaining in your soul path. You are now a watcher
and you will watch the drama of the coming years unfold, with an occasional
"Fancy that!" or "Oh my, how interesting," thrown in from time to time when
you see a particularly engaging scene in the play.
You've been to Arcturus and Andromeda and a place called Chiron (not the
asteroid). You had several lifetimes in the East and you resonate with
Eastern Philosophy in a natural and no-big-deal sort of way.
Most of your soul family is off-planet and they are awaiting your ascension
into fifth dimension. They view you as a bit stubborn, even though you do
not come across that way to me at all. They are laughing and pointing
etheric fingers at you, saying "The joke's on Gee, the joke's on Gee." I
guess it's an inside joke, because they're not explaining it to me. That's
okay.
There's more, but that's enough for right now.
--Sal
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Gee's Response:
Hello Sal...
General comment first: It could all be true.
It does not matter. I am what I am - the I AM!
Then this:
""You were also a practical jokester
(represented as the "Fool" in the Tarot).""
Some 25 years ago I had never seen the Tarot Cards.
I pulled one just to see. I pulled The Fool!
After that I became worse - Gee
(Thank You Sal for the Reading)
BTW:
I do not know what the inside joke is.
Except that the Joke is on us/me!
Also, all jokes are inside jokes. What else?
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Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 16:51:24 -0800
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: The FOOL ; more gee master ;)
At 06:47 AM 3/6/2005, you wrote:
SUSAN HERE;
NO INSIDE JOKE
i think SAL figured you knew the symbol for
THE FOOL card
IT IS an interesting one
The Fool is one of three cards in the Tarot that is
sometimes numbered uniquely, according to the author
or illustrator of a tarot deck.
Most often, the Fool is placed at the beginning of the
Major Arcana and is given the Number 0.
Sometimes, the Fool is listed as the last card in the
Trump cards, and given the Number 22.
Technically, the Fool is very much akin to the
"Jester" or "Wild Card" in regular playing cards.
He is outside the confines of the regular cards,
which gives him a special status which makes it
reasonable to place him at the beginning of the deck.
In this analytical series, the Fool follows the
traditional 0 placement.
The Fool is also known as Le Mat and The Spirit of the
Aether
Card Number: 0
Key Number: 11
Rulership: Air
Hebrew Letter: Aleph
Translation: Ox
Numerical Value: 3
Color: White
Herb: Peppermint
Incense: Allspice
Oil: Sandalwood
Gemstone: Clear Quartz
Planet: Uranus
Inner Meaning
The Fool represents the "everyperson" - the essence of
us all embarking on the journey of life,
self-discovery and mastery. He is the innocent, the
whimsical, the "inner child" mixed with the "inner
sage" that lives down deep inside of us all. He faces
life and his journey unafraid, trusting, the perfect
example of total and utter faith that all will be
well, that every experience has a deep essential
meaning. He trapses along the crags of life,
regardless of any hidden peril or disappointment, his
eyes are turned to the heavens and he knows that he
will be kept safe and whole along his travels. Key
words associated with the Fool are new beginnings,
important decisions and optimism.
The Fool is sometimes known as the most worthless
card, yet also as the most valuable one. He is the
first and the last, the alpha and the omega. It
represents both the fledgling beginner and the adept
master. The Fool reminds us of things, sacred things,
that we have forgotten or repressed. The Fool knows
his or her own ignorance, thus is seen as the most
wise.
The Fool represents the Negative space above the Tree
of Life, the source of all things. It is the
Qabalistic Zero, the Equation of the Universe, the
initial and final balance of the opposites, both the
father and the mother - male and female, in an
abstract sort of way. The Fool is intricately linked
with all 21 cards of the Major Arcana - in fact, many
theorists maintain that the other Major Arcana cards
are parts of the Fool's whimsical journey of
self-discovery, culminating with the Number 21 World
Card, bringing successful completion, accomplishment
and fulfillment. Because the Fool is trusting and open
to all experiences, he provides the perfect role model
as we too embark on our life journey. The Fool coaxes
us to walk our own path, not the path of the "herd".
To trust our own inner voice, our intuition and our
inner knowing and to embark on our life course with
faith and a stout heart. We need trust, faith in the
goodness of life and people, and an undying belief
that all will work out exactly as it should.
The Fool is the ultimate "Free Spirit" - this card
represents the self-actualized person, free from
societal constraints, someone who is able to let go of
outmoded beliefs and ideals with the courage to pursue
their own special path.
The Fool Card in a Reading
The Upright Fool card represents a new beginning, a
fresh start in any aspect of our life. When this card
is drawn, we are faced with important choices and
decisions which need to be made as we begin this new
life-cycle and to deal with any difficult challenges
along the way. The Fool tells us to face these
challenges with energy, optimism and faith, which will
ensure a positive outcome. It also points out that we
must develop faith in our abilities to make the right
choices, to keep the faith, and to walk our own unique
path with optimism and hope.
The Reversed Fool card gives us a clear warning that
we must resist the temptation to act recklessly or
immaturely in any new situation. We must accept our
responsibilities and commitments and honor them
wholely. Due consideration is required - problems and
indiscretions resulting from impatience or
impulsiveness are indicated. It also shows inhibitions
that are caused by mental, emotional and physical
restraints and tensions. We are burdened with a sense
of obligation towards society and our daily duties.
The Fool for the Taking -- is a good card
NOTE; this is what i think
SUSAN'S akashic follies on Gee Master...
you are an old 6 "scholar cast sage"
sages love to write and express
scholar cast; due to it's knowledge you express
c1 e7
in the mode of observation
with a chief passion for CHESS
this means you are 1-?_-?-_?_-7
(one of those middle ?'s is a 4)
et's and tc's are discarnate servers
(i would need to channel raw #'s etc.,
to complete the above chart)
you need knowledge
goal of flow
attitude of spiritualist
mode of observation
center intellectual / moving part
chief obstacle -- WOMAN (lol)
IMPATIENCE (never enough time)
BODY TYPE -- OFF PLANET (SOLAR)
love 'n light
susan
Gerardus here:
What Susan says generates a wide smile - Yeah - that's what I am!
Fool in actiiaon!
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Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:23:08 -0800
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Sal's Reading...
At 07:24 PM 3/5/2005, you wrote:
Gerardus Everardus Tros
December 25 1927, Hoorn, The Netherlands.
Sal here:
Okay, a few highlights. This may seem a bit bizarre, but I'm seeing that you
were a disciple of Krishna during his time on the Earth. You were also a
practical jokester (represented as the "Fool" in the Tarot). You were very
enlightened without a care in the world. Others tried to imitate you but
failed due to their unresolved karmic issues.
I see no karmic lessons remaining in your soul path. You are now a watcher
and you will watch the drama of the coming years unfold, with an occasional
"Fancy that!" or "Oh my, how interesting," thrown in from time to time when
you see a particularly engaging scene in the play.
You've been to Arcturus and Andromeda and a place called Chiron (not the
asteroid). You had several lifetimes in the East and you resonate with
Eastern Philosophy in a natural and no-big-deal sort of way.
Most of your soul family is off-planet and they are awaiting your ascension
into fifth dimension. They view you as a bit stubborn, even though you do
not come across that way to me at all. They are laughing and pointing
etheric fingers at you, saying "The joke's on Gee, the joke's on Gee."
I guess it's an inside joke, because they're not explaining it to me.
That's okay.There's more, but that's enough for right now.
--Sal
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QUESTION for SAL ...
was it GEE WHIZ's past life in ancient Greece
where all these humourous quotes
bleed through from ???
i remember you once telling me
about a past life the two of us
old sages shared in ancient greece
Sal: Gee was an etheric guide to some of the famous Greek
Philosophers, guiding and coaching from other planes. You and Gee were
both spirits around the same time guiding and coaching many of Earth's
teachers. You would occasionally "bump into" each other in the etheric
realms and laugh and joke about it and then go back to your own thing.
No, I'm not seeing a physical embodiment you shared, but it sure
seemed physical when you would joke and laugh and discuss the
difficulties you faced when dealing with Earthly souls.
Gee got the quotes from overhearing and eavesdropping on many a
conversation in a hallowed hall of learning.
--Sal
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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:33:13 -0800
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: The Power of TIL...
At 09:37 PM 3/21/2005, you wrote:
Jen here:
I don't know about that. That's not my inner experience of God/TIL. I
get the sense of its caring deeply.
I read somewhere that "the universe bends in your direction" and I
believe that is true.
Hi Jen...
My intuition tells me that there are Beings on a higher level than humans
are, and yes, they do care for humans. They care a lot!! Naturally they do,
for they are our Mental and or Spiritual Parents. We are their 'creation' so
to speak. They care for us like we care for our children...
These Beings are not God or TIL. These so called higher Beings also have
TIL flowing or living within them. I feel that the Universe runs on the
Power of TIL - like all our appliances run on the Power of Electricity...
This Power is not consciously aware, and\or loving, and\or hating, and/or
fearing, and/or pleasing to any Being. It just is! It is the Infinite
Subconsciousness or as I call it - The IS. It is our own Infinite
Subconsciousness! However, since we see ourselves as limited beings, we
think that we also have a limited subconsciousness. We are TIL doing its
thing and by whatever we do we slowly become aware that we are TIL
expressed as a reality...
We are infinite Giants living and thinking like limited Dwarfs - Gee
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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:50:19 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] POPE / Free Will...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 07:25 AM 4/7/2005, you wrote:
Gee wrote:
And yes, the world happenings are occurring according to a plan! All in all
it is beyond my comprehension that there is predestination as well as free
will. Possibly the clue is only fully comprehensible when we have learned
how to travel time. From a 3D perspective very little can be understood...
Mahroukie here:
Yes true, one's vision from sea-level or 3D level, is limited. Perhaps,
climbing Mt. Everest would give one is slightly wider perspective?
Gee here:
Yes, looking from a mountain top is equivalent to looking at things from a
higher awareness level. We have "insight" then - which is more than "sight"!
-----------------------------------
Mahroukie here:
Is there really "predestination as well as free" ? Perhaps that is a 3D
perception that, even for 3D, makes little sense? Is it " hope"? Perhaps the
ego cannot cope with the total helplessness/powerlessness of JUST
"predestination" ?
Gee here:
First:
Ego likes to be in control and if it encounters that it cannot be in
control - it complains or finds faults...
Second:
The 3D ego perception includes free will and Luck or bad Luck...
Third:
Once we begin to think beyond 3D we get the notion that there is a Force
that lives within ourselves - some call this Force God...
Fourth:
4D and 5D thinkers know that we are the Force and have come to express
ourselves in the physical on purpose. We know who or what we are! This
means that the Force We Are calls the shots. Since we live in 3D in bodily
form and the Force We Are has "merged" with our 3D body-mind thinking --
things become confusing for the two "mergers" so to speak. Trust comes into
the picture. Trust by means of Intuitive Knowing - call it awareness of...
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Mahroukie here:
>Who knows? Perhaps- the trick is to enjoy the 'show' and not to try to
>analyse and understand ?
Gee here:
Yes! That is one way of being at peace. Trust in God so to speak. That is
what religious people are supposed to do. Meanwhile they kill their
neighbors...
The entire universal Game is played from levels FAR above our understanding
or awareness. Say it is arranged from level seven while we float between 3,
4, and 5D levels. (Free Will or Intent is from level 7) To us Life
is still a mystery...
Then, we know that we live on all levels - it is just that we are not
consciously aware on all these levels. I experienced that my awareness
makes quantum jumps once in a while and then I say: Aha! I see! Insight
from the mountain top. The more experiences we have the more our awareness
level increase toward the higher levels...
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>Mahroukie here:
>I don't always enjoy the show but I am fast reaching the WHO CARES...
>thinking, about the 'why' of things.
Gee here:
Understandable to say "who cares". It is all beyond us and to truly care
can only be done on a local level. That's where we try to help. This is
difficult because most people do not think they need help. They already
think they know that there is not much more to know. Closed Mind Syndrome...
Conclusion:
So we have Free Will from Level Seven say, but we encounter a lot of limits
when we are conscious in human bodies...
Ramesh says on the back of his/your/my book:
"Live Life making decisions as if you have free will
knowing that it is Consciousness (TIL) seeking, doing, deciding".
Gee here:
I put (TIL) in there.
Ramesh is right!
It is Consciousness (TIL) living within us "doing" its thing. We as
instruments of TIL experience what it does. It cannot do anything without
us (It is us). Sometimes we like what it does and sometimes we don't...
Our free will becomes more when our level of conscious awareness increases.
In a time environment increasing our awareness is a slow process and kind of
hard sometimes...
Eventually we will be Free - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:35:50 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Collective Ascension ??
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
To One and All...
If it is true that all humans on earth are engaged in a Cosmic Play in order
to learn - it means that we are all actors playing our roles in this
collective performance. It could well be then, that some of us in the past
were active in the Negative and others in the Positive. These roles
naturally reversed themselves and this would mean that all of us have
learned certain lessons by playing all kinds of different roles. By this I
mean that no-one is really ahead or behind as a Soul or GodBeing...
Time and Space are illusions, as well as that the entire universe high and
low is a Glorified Dream of the Infinite We Are! Therefore, all of us are
equal!
The idea that some will be harvested in the future as Ra calls it - and
others not - might not be the way it will be by the end of 2012. By this I
mean to say - that all of us could be ready for a Collective Ascension or
moving into a higher density. We as actors among ourselves "play" this
performance for the entertainment and experience for all of us to learn to
love and understand. Who is to say that some of us know or love or
understand more than others? IOW: why leave any of us behind??
We are all the same TIL in human manifestation...
We are all figments in the Dream or Creation of the One Dreamer - the One We
Are! Is not this the One who is waking up within all of us by means of all
of us?
Is there anyone on TL who feels the same way about the above? - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:37:02 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Short Cuts on The Matrix is Within...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
I had a discussion on an other list and the following was said.
I think it also fits on TL - so here it is!
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J. posted:
Outside the Self there is nothing. All is one and all is contained
in "I am". In the waking and dream states it is the person. In deep
sleep and turiya [samadhi] it is the Self. Beyond the alert
intentness of turiya lies the great, silent peace of the Supreme. But
in fact all is one in essence and related in appearance. In ignorance
the seer becomes the seen, and in wisdom he is the seeing. (68)
etc. etc.
--------------------
J. here:
Gee - I think this is what you are saying, too, but I'm finding it a
bit tricky to grok. I seem to wander in and out of inspirational
flashes, at the moment....
Gee here:
Yes! It is tricky to grok because basically it is ungrokable. It is
understood radically or by intuitional means. One just knows without
attempting to know! It will come to us automatically I feel and the more
we expect or look for it - the more our "mental-walls" keep it out...
Also, it might be wise to comprehend the following -- We all are The
Infinite Light - FULLY. Nothing is left out. We just have not experienced
this in an individual sense. IOW: The Christ Within need to grow a bit
more by surrendering to what is. Trust The Self We Are...
I have read the stuff you copied J. and agree with it. What we forget is
that the issue cannot be understood by means of words. It can only be
experienced! Means - we must just be what we are for now and it will
happen. Be joyful! Our very searching or desiring for it stands in the way
of experiencing it I feel...
-----------------------------------
J. here:
For me, it seems that a 'stream of consciousness' has awakened me to
this realisation....and the source is outside the matrix mind
(although All is One, damn, this is hard!).
Gee here:
All is One - YES! That Oneness however has many aspect/us and we get lost
thinking that we are "outside" or "inside" of it -or- that it is all
within us. Not so! We are it - but confused! There is no "inside" or
"outside" to it! We are confused -or- our 3D thinking is distorted
because we do not grok the entire picture because we have not experienced
it. It's a vertical move in awareness...
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J. here:
Yes, I feel it is. I (we) have created the holographic Illusion and
the matrix is the same thing....a mental construct. What you access
is 'outside' of the matrix/mind because it's YOURSELF, pure
Consciousness. If you wish to transcend the matrix, I believe all
you need to do is constantly affirm the dream and that you are the
dreamer, that you are everything, as Gee says. That means no
polarity, at all.
Gee here:
Yes! The Dreamer and Dream are one - but sooner or later the Dreamer wakes
up and the dream falls away. Within the Dream there are figments or rules
that make up Matrixes or Mindsets. Adherence to, or the default following
of any Mindset, keeps us in a prison. Meanwhile, any Mindset is only an
aspect of the Whole.
The whole has many Matrixes so to speak - but no
Matrix contains the whole! A Matrix is only a specific hologram of the
whole. The Whole contains many. We could say that our Matrix is our
Subconsciousness or Soul. It needs help by either more experiences and/or
different energies that awaken us further...
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J. here:
It's the mind which is enslaving us, that's my point. It's a self-
inflicted prison; there's nothing else out there. As Sri
Nisargadatta Maharaji says, there is literally nothing outside, at
Consciousness level, so the hologram must be the dream too.
Gee here:
Yes, the ideas we have -or- our mindset forms the walls of our prison. It
is self-inflicted but this is unavoidable. We need to reach its limits and
make a quantum jump to escape. This might happen to those who are "close"
when 2012 hits us for example. There are automatic awareness-releases so
to speak in this new energy that hits us day in day out. This means that
some of us will awaken sooner and others later...
--------------------------------------------------
J. here:
I can see you're fixed on this but it's unusual for you not to be
open to discussion. As you've said before, our rants aren't
circular, they're spiral. Between us, we are finding the answers,
slowly. One of the keys to freedom is to establish whether or not
the matrix is within us. It's crucial to our understanding.
Gee here:
Our Beingness - Us or The Universe - contains all Matrixes and/or
Mindsets. Each Matrix is a specific way of thinking and or
deception/distortion. Presently, we live life within our Matrix in a
default manner. We do not know any better until we feel-reason this out.
This is speeded up by networking ideas so to speak. So! We presently have
by default surrendered to our own specific Matrix which is different for
each one of us - we all create our own...
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Until, that is, something of a major shift occurs in our minds -
[aka, at this level of being, our DNA] - by which we will be able
to see beyond the limitations of our current perspectives.>
J. here:
This discussion is part of the shift.
Gee here:
YES! Exactly!!
It changes our DNA automatically. As I have said in my writing in other
places/articles - we literally talk/think/receive/intuit ourselves into a
more enlightened state continuously. We can't help but grow in awareness...
I do feel that...
Our progress is automatic but one can help some - Gerardus
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Gerardus here:
Some days ago I posted some of my discussions from another list to TL.
The following is the continuation of it. Some new members might like this...
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M. here again:
In fact, on that thought, wasn't it George Orwell [a British Secret
Service agent] who was famous for having said:
"If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if
the mind itself is controllable - what then?"
Gerardus here:
There is no 3D world out there. All takes place in mind/awareness. (See
David Icke latest book or read my articles). Then this: The mind is like a
computer! This computer has a programmer. This programmer is asleep and
wakes up because of the programs that are imposed upon it from the so called
"outside". Sooner or later the programmer wakes up and becomes smart enough
to program its own mind. This is a bit by bit learning affair. Pretty soon
we know that we create our own reality...
The ChristMind is born - Gerardus
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Hi Gerardus, enjoyed your responses to J. have a few
questions/comments.
I have read the stuff you copied Julie and agree with it. What we
forget is
that the issue cannot be understood by means of words. It can only be
experienced! Means - we must just be what we are for now and it will
happen. Be joyful! Our very searching or desiring for it stands in
the way of experiencing it I feel...
J2 here:
I agree on the importance of just being, but if we have a strong desire
for something, that's part of our being, isn't it?
Hello J2 - Gee here:
Within manifestation nothing comes about without desire. Creations need
impulse. Meanwhile, whatever we experience as a desire needs to be fulfilled
since suppression desires plugs the flow of the universe. The light within
us would diminish and the body we are in would get sick with suppressed
goodies so to speak...
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J2 here:
I've heard it said that desire is a prayer...
Gee here:
Call it anything you like. It does not makes it what it is. Basically the
entire universe is a prayer - a Prayer to the Creator We Are. A wish
fulfilled...
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Gee here:
our 3D thinking is distorted
because we do not grok the entire picture because we have not experienced
it. It's a vertical move in awareness...
J2 here:
What's that mean--a vertical movement in awareness?
Gee here:
A vertical movement is a Gigantic Lightbulb Moment that might blind us for a
second. When this blindness clears we are in 4D so to speak. We think and
feel differently now because our understanding of things has expanded. We
are higher up on the Awareness Totem Pole! Now, there are different
Gigantic Lightbulb Moments. For some they happen fast for others they take
place over thirty years. That's me!
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Gee here:
A Matrix is only a specific hologram of the
whole. The Whole contains many. We could say that our Matrix is our
Subconsciousness or Soul. It needs help by either more experiences
and/or different energies that awaken us further...
J2 here:
That was my feeling also, that the Matrix is not the same thing as the
larger hologram or dream. But how do you get that the Matrix is our soul?
I would think that it would be more akin to our ego.
Gee here:
I spoke from my point of view or understanding! A human being is like a
house with two masters. The Ego and the Soul. For most people the Ego is
dominant and for a few the Soul is peeping through and gets a word in
edgewise (There is this "me" again). When the Soul becomes dominant the Ego
slowly dies because of a lack of attention. It's a natural process.
When
that happens the Soul enjoys more vertical movements in awareness and cuts
right through the supper-imposed Matrix that is fed to the Ego-Masses. From
then on in, the Soul begins to create/live/see beyond the Matrix or Mind-Set
in which the masses are stuck or imprisoned...
It is reaching and building its own Matrix or Soul then - Gerardus
(I have said before - *The IS* We Are - is an individual creation)
(( The IS - The Infinite Subconsciousness or Creator ))
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Hi Gerardus, one more thing...
Gerardus wrote:
Yes! The Dreamer and Dream are one - but sooner or later the Dreamer
wakes up and the dream falls away.
J2 here:
And when the dream falls away--what is left? Just pure Awareness?
Gee here:
Yes... Whatever pure Awareness is...
In the mean time - good question!
My answer is an iffy. Means, I do not know for sure, but I figure/intuit
that we have reached "The One We Actually Are" with full Conscious Awareness
and/or Self-Awareness and/or Self-Realization. This means to me that we
will be able to materialize any body at will and or channel anyone human...
Also we will be able to visit any occasion in our creation at any time and
space or dimension. More often then not so to speak, we leave things alone
because we know that All Is Well! There might be periods however where we
feel the need to help others like all Masters do in their own way. NOW!
That was a lot of intuiting and I suggest that you either endure or enjoy it
with a bit of salt. It might be lacking something...
That's it Folks - Gee
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:33:54 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Now What?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
Just thinking...
The more we grow in awareness, the more sensitive we become to what's all
around us. Since we live in an Energy-Environment - what's around us are
"thoughts"! Our own and those of so called others. What is happening then,
is that we become continually distracted from what we actually are (TIL)...
These "thoughts" are picked up by our mind and we tend to "play" around with
them. We become then like the wind playing with leaves blown from a tree.
Every new pattern that is created is another distraction...
We must let go of our mind! But how?
This mind is the ego thinking it knows something.
This ego will never leave unless we stop thinking.
Our thoughts keep it alive...
Now what? - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:54:01 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Wonderful Weirdness!
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
Life and creating our environment is like the following example:
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Say we play a Chess Game with ten players on each side.
Here are the rules:
1) White has ten players and Black has ten players.
2) Each player has a number.
3) Not any one player is able to communicate with any other player!
4) All players play in turn. White 1 - Black 1 next White 2 - Black 2 | etc.
5) All players can see the game progressing.
5) The game takes (30) thirty moves to complete.
7) In the end Black wins the game.
At the end of the game each White and Black player only made three move.
The game was played perfectly and in this case Black won the game.
NOW:
In Life: instead of Chess-Pieces - we have Life-Pieces.
Life-Pieces are thoughts! Also, there are at least 6 billion players
instead of twenty! We all think and create independently and our
environment/reality comes about. Naturally, there are influences from
higher levels than where the human environment takes place...
So our reality or environment is a multi-dimensional/density awareness
accomplishment. This to me, is how our reality comes about. Actually there
is only the Creator's Mind creating, but it operates by means of say 6
billion players or humans of which many are asleep, drunk, on drugs and/or
mentally immature. Whatever takes place in our environment is the impetus
for some of the players to wake up - which is the very purpose of the Game
of Life in the first place...
NOW AGAIN:
The entire Play on Earth is not happening on any place called Earth or any
other place. There are no places and or times. There is ONLY Mind! So our
human reality or environment is experienced in our head so to speak. And
even that head is an illusionary object. Talking about weirdness - Life is
a Wonderful Weirdness!
One of the weird ones - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 09:48:25 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] What is happening to our world?
Gerardus here:
Our world is a Three Dimensional Expression of the Universe. These
Expressions run in cycles and we have come to the end of our 3D cycle by the
year 2012. To Humanity this means that the 3D world will be phased out. How
is this done? Simple! A lot of it will be done by Mankind itself and the
rest will be taken care of by Mother Nature...
The majority of people are not aware that this "phasing out" is presently
taken place and there will be an enormous amount of energy wasted to keep
this 3D world in tact. In all ways, we could say that the phasing out of the
3D world is an Act of God. No human effort is able to par that kind of stuff...
As many of us on TriLite know, the Universe (and the world) is a
multi-dimensional phenomenon and when one 3D door closes - other doors will
open. Which door we will enter depends on the level of our awareness. This
is different for everybody and what we will experience when we have gone
through the next door is still a nifty secret to me. I know for sure however
- there are many doors and we will be taken care of according to the level
of awareness we have reached. There is nothing to be concerned about...
All comments are welcome - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:04:38 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Sender: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] This Dream Called Life...
Gerardus here:
In the past we have spoken before about Life being a Dream. I feel
that this is so INDEED! We all slowly learn to create our own Dream
or Life and the more we dream or live - the better we become at
creating or dreaming...
Well, if this is indeed so - there is no need to awaken as long as we
are capable of making our Dream a pleasant one. Why stop dreaming if it's enjoyable...
Comments anyone? - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:01:25 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] POISONOUS LEGACY
DavidM here:
Hi Gerardus,
I've been deeply saddened by things I've been reading on the internet
recently, and amazed by the disconnection between this and what is reported
by the media. I'm feeling more and more out of touch with the majority.
Hello David - Gerardus here:
Do not feel sad - for it does not help anyone! Feeling out of touch with
the majority is good. The majority is made up out of the masses of Humanity.
They are controlled by a Social Consciousness - it's very shallow! It goes
by what is right and wrong...
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David here:
I want to let the dying bury the dead, but I can't divorce myself from the
terrible suffering. This is us. We are doing this, not them. As long as we
are breathing, we have the power to affect the dream. We will be sentient
dreamers.
Gerardus here:
Yes, you have the power to affect the dream - ONLY your dream however. The
dream of others is their creation! No one is here to change others and/or
their dream. That is their responsibility. Life in the universe and the
world is not governed by the niceties of society and their social
consciousness of what is right or wrong! The "Beings in Charge" of raising
the levels of awareness of humanity, work by a different standard than the
"Silent Night - Holy Night" mentality the masses go by. Human Life is a
very tough deal and it is an opportunity to raise our awareness level and
see through what's happening. The game that is played - or the performance
that is orchestrated - by those in charge is designed to elevate the
awareness of as many human souls as possible...
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DavidM here:
Our leaders are gangsters and satanists. We must stand up now. If not, we
may never again have the opportunity. Where we stand now may be our last
stand. Humanity is better served by ten minutes of freedom than a hundred
years of slavery.
Gerardus here:
Gangsters and satanists "is" that a judgment?
Maybe a hundred years of slavery are necessary in order to have ten minutes
of freedom - who knows. If that is the way it is - that is the way it will
be. The trick is to raise the level of awareness of humanity - not how nice
it all looks and/or what a nice party it was. We leave all that up to aunt
Betty and her Church-Group knitting away. Meanwhile, that is their
progression in awareness for now...
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David posts:
>"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I did not
>speak out. Then, they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I
>was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then, they came for the Jews,
>but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me,
>there was no one left to speak out for me." Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)
Gerardus here:
All that is fine and dandy. No one has to speak for anyone - we all get
what we deserve! Then - nothing is changed by Force. If we do not approve
of a certain system we leave it the way it is - we do not oppose it...
Opposing will add more energy to the whole. We withdraw and invent a better
system - even if this is in the loneliness of our own being. This always
means that we forgive all the actors or players involved for what they are
doing because they do not know what they are doing. They are ego-driven -
that is the way many of us have been going through our lives before we
arrived at a deeper insight. The entire world scenario in my view is
exactly as it should be. This includes Mr Push and his Cabinet and all the
other actors on his side...
I trust the universe for I am it! - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 20:53:02 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] POISONOUS LEGACY
At 08:29 PM 04/12/2004, you wrote:
Jennifer wrote:
Well, Seth said we should create our own positive versions of mass
events and focus on those in response to the crap.
This seems in sync with Lennon's songs--simultaneously
imagining a better world, and letting the outer one BE.
Jen
DavidM here:
There is the idea that all individuals share "mind". The story of the
hundredth monkey is an example. The simultaneous movement of birds in a
flock, or fish in a school points to the presence of group mind, or
telepathic communication. Lyall Watson, Fritof Capra and Michael Talbot
wrote about it. This suggests that the experience of those in Fallujah
(soldiers and citizens) is also our experience. It's affecting us directly.
Hello David...
Gerardus interjecting:
Good points... But... But...
Humanity is past the Monkey Stage.
We share the Infinite Mind on an individual bases living in semi-separation
of this mind. When humanity separated from the Whole it went on an
individual (soul by soul) side trip of discovery and/or mental evolution.
An awareness gathering trip...
I do feel that there are different periods (Yugas) that make this possible.
So presently, we are all responsible for our own life and actions only. If
we all had to carry the "learnings" (read Karma) of others - no one could
be an individual without being weighted down. Presently, at any time in this
period, there might be more negativity than positivity - YET - some of us
awaken without feelings of guilt of what other humans do. These others are
on THEIR side trip of learning - we have no right to take that away from
them or prevent them from learning what is...
Then, I do feel that we not only share The Infinite Mind - We Are The
Infinite Mind awakening to itself. It allows aspects of itself to
separate and have this self-discovery journey. Anyway this is MY
opinion...
One does not have to agree - Gerardus
BTW: you are not alone in the way you think/feel. We have had other members
on TL who felt responsibility for what happens out there. All, if not most,
have left TL by now...
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Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 15:06:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: rewiring Brain Circuitry....
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 12:19 PM 05/07/2004, you wrote:
Leonard here
Hi Kartar,
May I chip in and answer the questio you asked Gerardus?
The Michael Messages go into great detail defining our soul
age.....Infant, Baby, Young, Mature, Old...and in the none-
physical,Transcendental and Infinite.
I just discovered their website too..
http://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_age_index.html
with Love from this 'Old Soul' as defined by the book! Leonard.
Hello Kartar/Leonard/Susan...
Yes, very true, The Michael Books are indeed speaking about Soul-Ages and
older and/or younger Souls. Most entertaining! They are books I began to
read in 1980 and after - no wonder I forgot about them. When you search for
Soul-Ages in "Google" no doubt you will find these Michael Books. I even
have a short "blurb" about "The Michael Teaching" on my pages. As I see it -
this Teaching eventually becomes very complex and no doubt they appeal to
Superior Souls who have forgotten that there is no such thing......
Are what the Michael Books say true?
Answer: according to my Field of Perception - if you believe these Books
you will find the experiences in your Life reflecting these Teachings - and
if you do not believe in these books and believe in some other Teaching or
No-Teaching you will find your experiences in Life reflecting these values
or disciplines...
The thing is - when we set ourselves up with certain beliefs or teachings or
assumptions - all happenings and/or experiences in our life then can be
explained by means of our initial accepted assumptions. IOW: we create our
own Reality and Truths accordingly. All teachings are temporary paths I
figure. Sooner or later we must leave these paths...
For me - more and more so - the big question actually is: does an Infinite
Being of Light need any teachings? Or is it here to experience it's Dream
and/or Creation? Maybe all we need to do is learn to listen to our
intuition and follow our tiny voice. Then - like I have said before - All
Teachings are Stories and all Stories are Teachings. Look here too maybe:
http://www.soulwise.net/99-johns.htm
Is there a Teaching that is not a Teaching? Yes, I think/feel there is.
It's a way of Life! It proves itself by means of resulting experiences
afterwards. Here it is ---> Behave as if you are the World and everybody in
it. Or - be kind to another and they will be kind to you...
Kindness projects Mutual Induction - Gerardus
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08/01/2005, you wrote:
Jen here:
Right now, I am studying Lewis Carroll's Alice books from the
standpoint of humanity's "fall" from spirit into matter and
the "necessary play" as Gerardus calls it. I've always been a fan
of those books, and they only get more interesting with time. If
anyone has any ideas/insights on this, I'd appreciate it...
Hello Jen...
I think I have heard of those books, but I have never read them. Then, I
feel that the "fall" from Spirit is a bit of a misnomer. We are STILL
Spirits (or Universal Holograms) containing "All That Is" in holographic
form. It is ALL within! However, in order to bring this to our conscious
mind (or awareness) we need to go through a rigamarole of experiences in
order for us to learn to remember who or what we actually are and fill in
the hologram with knowing, wisdom or self-realization. This is done by
living many lifetimes as human beings...
Human life then, is a school where we learn to remember, while the different
games we play or the type of experiences we have do not matter one iota - as
long as they awaken us to The Infinite Light (TIL) we actually are. TIL
then, enters its creation (almost unconsciously) and experiences it again
and again by means of all of us and eventually - learns how to not incarnate
anymore into 3D...
That's when we stay in 4D/5D and learn how to take care of certain worlds
and their populations. This might mean for example, in the case of earth,
making sure there is some kind of Belief System in place this 3D people can
believe in, in order to have experiences with others who believe in
something different...
Teachings and Traditions teach us many things, but in the end we must know
how to leave them alone and become fully dependent on our Inner Knowing or
Intuition. I feel that people like Krishna, Buddha, Jesus and others have
done that, and are now at a so called higher level directing the show. The
higher levels support the lower in the same manner we support our pets or
other animals...
Meanwhile all levels blend or mix by means of intuition - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:48:25 -0700
Subject: [TL] Truth and its Opinions...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
We are the Truth and we have Opinions.
Right!
That is why there are:
Bashar's Opinions, Leonard's Opinions, Gerardus' Opinions, Dicky Dee's
Opinions, Jesus' Opinions, Buddha's Opinions, Bush's Opinions, Cheney's
Opinions, Kerry's Opinions, Ruppert's Opinions, Cayce's Opinions, Seth's
Opinions, Lady Kadiva's Opinions, Leah's Opinions, Michael's Opinions,
Divine Self's Opinions, Matthew's Opinions, etc, etc, etc. All Opinions,
either ringing true and or close to it. Meanwhile - The Truth contains all
Opinions or Possibilities but is neither of them...
My point is that the so called Truth "out there" is our own created Truth!
IOW: it changes all the time! It is self-created by means of our Opinions
and Thoughts reinforced by our feelings and or emotions. And Yes! It is
also created by Off Planet Forces. In other words - it all ads up to a world
full of happenings that create our human experiences...
That's all we come down here for - Experiences!
Either self-created and/or by means of receiving the thoughts (opinions)
of others and then we think that we create our own Reality...
Reality is Reception - Gerardus
(Comments Anyone?)
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11 Jan 2005, you wrote:
>Meredith here: UFO lawyer Peter Gersten publishes a fascinating email
>newsletter which contends that our reality is actually a cosmic computer
>program. I wonder how he would respond to the concept of the cosmic
>computer loving itself.
Hello Meredith...
Well, when you just come out of Church and have been praying with your eyes
closed - the entire idea of this Loving God being a Computer is outrageous
naturally. The thing is, you've had your eyes closed too tight and too
long. The more and more I think about it, with my small thinker, the more
and more I agree to the idea that the universe "works" according to a
perfect program which cannot be much interfered with. There are times,
there are cycles, there are places, there are numbers tied to human
personalities, there are birth dates that determine what and how one will be
and behave. So, what do we get? A robot who thinks that he is free and
knows something. Now what???
Then - we can mix all this up with Love and Creating Our Own Reality and it
all sounds neat and most satisfying to the ego-mind. I am the Creator so to
speak! Double Wow!! But, if we are a part of this Infinite Computer's
Program - we also are a program - and we will never notice it as long as we
have the illusion of free will and thinking we create something. The actual
program stays hidden behind our own thoughts. Again... Now what?
For all I know, we might be like the symbols that appear on my screen when I
type this post. These symbols find themselves very important because they
stand for something - but are they? Type in a different language (computer
programmed naturally) and these symbols mean absolutely nothing. They
become 3D garbage! My delete button works like a tsunami! Meanwhile, more
and more do I begin to lean towards what Gersten says...
There is a lot on his website and I have read nothing of it - but I get the
idea that his idea about TIL and my idea - meet in the Universal CPU
somewhere. They are synchronized and jive. Not to forget now, that if and
when the Universal Computer loves itself - no doubt a bit of that is in the
program I am - for it is me! Means, I also love myself, but in order to
experience and know that, I need to get out of that Church and open my eyes...
The above comes from a mini CPU at turbo speed - Gerardus
(I subbed to his newsletter)
BTW Meredith:
Isn't it amazing what a little thought can do.
They work like butterflies in China! Here it is:
I've been thinking again:
I think that the universe is a mixture of Love and Science.
Could it be that it is the Love of Science and that God or
TIL is actually an Infinite Computer loving itself?
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Jan 8 2005:
J. here:
Right now, I am studying Lewis Carroll's Alice books from the
standpoint of humanity's "fall" from spirit into matter and
the "necessary play" as Gerardus calls it. I've always been a fan
of those books, and they only get more interesting with time. If
anyone has any ideas/insights on this, I'd appreciate it...
Hello J....
I think I have heard of those books, but I have never read them. Then, I
feel that the "fall" from Spirit is a bit of a misnomer. We are STILL
Spirits (or Universal Holograms) containing "All That Is" in holographic
form. It is ALL within! However, in order to bring this to our conscious
mind (or awareness) we need to go through a rigamarole of experiences in
order for us to learn to remember who or what we actually are and fill in
the hologram with knowing, wisdom or self-realization. This is done by
living many lifetimes as human beings...
Human life then, is a school where we learn to remember, while the different
games we play or the type of experiences we have do not matter one iota - as
long as they awaken us to The Infinite Light (TIL) we actually are. TIL
then, enters its creation (almost unconsciously) and experiences it again
and again by means of all of us and eventually - learns how to not incarnate
anymore into 3D...
That's when we stay in 4D/5D and learn how to take care of certain worlds
and their populations. This might mean for example, in the case of earth,
making sure there is some kind of Belief System in place this 3D people can
believe in, in order to have experiences with others who believe in
something different...
Teachings and Traditions teach us many things, but in the end we must know
how to leave them alone and become fully dependent on our Inner Knowing or
Intuition. I feel that people like Krishna, Buddha, Jesus and others have
done that, and are now at a so called higher level directing the show. The
higher levels support the lower in the same manner we support our pets or
other animals...
Meanwhile all levels blend or mix by means of intuition - Gerardus
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Jan 12 2005
Subject: Re: [TL] Love and Science...
>Meredith here:
>UFO lawyer Peter Gersten publishes a fascinating email
>newsletter which contends that our reality is actually a cosmic computer
>program. I wonder how he would respond to the concept of the cosmic
>computer loving itself.
Hello Meredith...
Well, when you just come out of Church and have been praying with your eyes
closed - the entire idea of this Loving God being a Computer is outrageous
naturally. The thing is, you've had your eyes closed too tight and too
long. The more and more I think about it, with my small thinker, the more
and more I agree to the idea that the universe "works" according to a
perfect program which cannot be much interfered with. There are times,
there are cycles, there are places, there are numbers tied to human
personalities, there are birth dates that determine what and how one will be
and behave. So, what do we get? A robot who thinks that he is free and
knows something. Now what???
Then - we can mix all this up with Love and Creating Our Own Reality and it
all sounds neat and most satisfying to the ego-mind. I am the Creator so to
speak! Double Wow!! But, if we are a part of this Infinite Computer's
Program - we also are a program - and we will never notice it as long as we
have the illusion of free will and thinking we create something. The actual
program stays hidden behind our own thoughts. Again... Now what?
For all I know, we might be like the symbols that appear on my screen when I
type this post. These symbols find themselves very important because they
stand for something - but are they? Type in a different language (computer
programmed naturally) and these symbols mean absolutely nothing. They
become 3D garbage! My delete button works like a tsunami! Meanwhile, more
and more do I begin to lean towards what Gersten says...
There is a lot on his website and I have read nothing of it - but I get the
idea that his idea about TIL and my idea - meet in the Universal CPU
somewhere. They are synchronized and jive. Not to forget now, that if and
when the Universal Computer loves itself - no doubt a bit of that is in the
program I am - for it is me! Means, I also love myself, but in order to
experience and know that, I need to get out of that Church and open my eyes...
The above comes from a mini CPU at turbo speed - Gerardus
(I subbed to his newsletter)
BTW Meredith:
Isn't it amazing what a little thought can do.
They work like butterflies in China! Here it is:
I've been thinking again:
I think that the universe is a mixture of Love and Science.
Could it be that it is the Love of Science and that God or
TIL is actually an Infinite Computer loving itself?
I love this post - Gee
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3/4/2005, you wrote:
>chris here:
>Ok... I'm following you... The only valid teacher is the teacher within,
>because external lessons, and the whole of the outside world, are created
>from within.
Hi Chris...
Yes, the reality we experience is created from within by means of what we
are thinking or belief in. Our mind projects that into the so called "out
there". Here it becomes "tricky" because ---- it is difficult, if not
impossible, to tell who "creates" these thoughts or beliefs. They could be
instilled by STS ETs and/or others. This really means that our reality is
"created" by means of us, by means of our mind! In the mean time, we have
the idea that we are the creators of these thoughts or beliefs - and then
say: I create my own reality. It is like anything else ---> a yes/no affair...
MR Push for example thinks that God has chosen him to do what he does.
Well, he is chosen alright, because he is the right type of average mind
that can easily be obsessed (read possessed) by other Beings. These Beings
rule or control the world - by means of all the Leaders and Rulers of the
world. From where I am looking all this means that we as human souls go
through an enormous amount of lifetimes before we start figuring all this
out...
The whole thing is a Global-World-Game and it is played from higher levels.
Naturally, we are also present on these higher levels and the trick is to
become consciously aware on these levels. First of all naturally, we need
to know that there are higher levels and what goes on there...
Note:
I think the above also answers Mahrouk's question.
Here it is ---> Why is it that one does not hear things like, we create our
own reality', from the mystics, Sufis, Bodhisattvas ...?
The answer is Yes/No - because the scenarios in the world are created by
means of human instruments (read bio-computers) and these computers can be
programmed. I am thinking here of religions, traditions, politics and other
silly mind-sets). These human computers then think/feel/experience a
reality they call physical reality. Meanwhie, all things or energies are
mind - and or mind in form. It's a very complicated universal scenario we
are all engaged in...
The Physical Reality, as we experience it, is a most beautiful and
enormously crafty virtual manifestation (read invention) and presently we
have the privilege to be here and experience it. After a enough lifetimes
however, the whole thing becomes a bit boring since the lessons keep
repeating themselves. It might be more interesting for example, to grow up
and start to "play" our own games from a higher level in a conscious manner...
===========================================================================
April 07/2005
>Gee wrote:
>And yes, the world happenings are occurring according to a plan! All in all
>- it is beyond my comprehension that there is predestination as well as free
>will. Possibly the clue is only fully comprehensible when we have learned
>how to travel time. From a 3D perspective very little can be understood...
>
>Mahroukie here:
>Yes true, one's vision from sea-level or 3D level, is limited. Perhaps,
>climbing Mt. Everest would give one is slightly wider perspective?
Gee here:
Yes, looking from a mountain top is equivalent to looking at things from a
higher awareness level. We have "insight" then - which is more than "sight"!
-----------------------------------
Mahroukie here:
>Is there really "predestination as well as free" ? Perhaps that is a 3D
>perception that, even for 3D, makes little sense? Is it " hope"? Perhaps the
>ego cannot cope with the total helplessness/powerlessness of JUST
>"predestination" ?
Gee here:
First:
Ego likes to be in control and if it encounters that it cannot be in
control - it complains or finds faults...
Second:
The 3D ego perception includes free will and Luck or bad Luck...
Third:
Once we begin to think beyond 3D we get the notion that there is a Force
that lives within ourselves - some call this Force God...
Fourth:
4D and 5D thinkers know that we are the Force and have come to express
ourselves in the physical on purpose. We know who or what we are! This
means that the Force We Are calls the shots. Since we live in 3D in bodily
form and the Force We Are has "merged" with our 3D body-mind thinking --
things become confusing for the two "mergers" so to speak. Trust comes into
the picture. Trust by means of Intuitive Knowing - call it awareness of...
-------------------------------------
Mahroukie here:
>Who knows? Perhaps- the trick is to enjoy the 'show' and not to try to
>analyse and understand ?
Gee here:
Yes! That is one way of being at peace. Trust in God so to speak. That is
what religious people are supposed to do. Meanwhile they kill their
neighbors...
The entire universal Game is played from levels FAR above our understanding
or awareness. Say it is arranged from level seven while we float between 3,
4, and 5D levels. (Free Will or Intent is from level 7) To us Life
is still a mystery...
Then, we know that we live on all levels - it is just that we are not
consciously aware on all these levels. I experienced that my awareness
makes quantum jumps once in a while and then I say: Aha! I see! Insight
from the mountain top. The more experiences we have the more our awareness
level increase toward the higher levels...
-----------------------------------------------------
>Mahroukie here:
>I don't always enjoy the show but I am fast reaching the WHO CARES...
>thinking, about the 'why' of things.
Gee here:
Understandable to say "who cares". It is all beyond us and to truly care
can only be done on a local level. That's where we try to help. This is
difficult because most people do not think they need help. They already
think they know that there is not much more to know. Closed Mind Syndrome...
Conclusion:
So we have Free Will from Level Seven say, but we encounter a lot of limits
when we are conscious in human bodies...
Ramesh says on the back of his/your/my book:
"Live Life making decisions as if you have free will
knowing that it is Consciousness (TIL) seeking, doing, deciding".
Gee here:
I put (TIL) in there.
Ramesh is right!
It is Consciousness (TIL) living within us "doing" its thing. We as
instruments of TIL experience what it does. It cannot do anything without
us (It is us). Sometimes we like what it does and sometimes we don't...
Our free will becomes more when our level of conscious awareness increases.
In a time environment increasing our awareness is a slow process and kind of
hard sometimes...
Eventually we will be Free - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:29:12 -0800
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] massaging the spirit
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
08:30 PM 3/11/2005, you wrote:
Susanne here...
The body - our space suits can be massaged. It makes us feel alive.
How can we massage our spirits?
Hi Susanne...
(Darn good question you have there)
I figure that our emotions - be they love, fear, hate, sadness, joy, bliss,
and all the rest of them - are the qualities that massage our spirit or soul
by means of the feelings we experience. I do think that the experiences of
spirits - to have emotions - or know what they are like - is one of the
reasons we live in bodies in the first place. When we have learned how to
train the body to behave like a God instead of like an animal - we have
accomplished a lot...
Also, I feel that Awareness and/or Wisdom, Understanding or Love, are
qualities of the soul or spirit. Whatever body/brains or body-minds gather
in Knowledge, Awareness and Understanding is lost at the end of each
lifetime - except what is valuable and remembered by the soul. This is what
it gathers within itself and becomes!
This could be called it's subconsciousness.
Which is an aspect of The Infinite Subconsciousness (The
IS). We could also call The IS - The Infinite Spirit or The Infinite Light
- TIL. Then - in a way - the body and its habits and characteristics are
like a suit that either fits the soul well - or makes it feel uncomfortable.
Not at rest... itchy... looking for something... searching for itself...
Means detachment, acceptance, integrity and/or honesty - Gee
===========================================================================
April 03 2005
chris here:
Ok... I'm following you... The only valid teacher is the teacher within,
because external lessons, and the whole of the outside world, are created
from within.
Hi Chris...
Yes, the reality we experience is created from within by means of what we
are thinking or belief in. Our mind projects that into the so called "out
there". Here it becomes "tricky" because ---- it is difficult, if not
impossible, to tell who "creates" these thoughts or beliefs. They could be
instilled by STS ETs and/or others. This really means that our reality is
"created" by means of us, by means of our mind! In the mean time, we have
the idea that we are the creators of these thoughts or beliefs - and then
say: I create my own reality. It is like anything else ---> a yes/no affair...
MR Push for example thinks that God has chosen him to do what he does.
Well, he is chosen alright, because he is the right type of average mind
that can easily be obsessed (read possessed) by other Beings. These Beings
rule or control the world - by means of all the Leaders and Rulers of the
world. From where I am looking all this means that we as human souls go
through an enormous amount of lifetimes before we start figuring all this
out...
The whole thing is a Global-World-Game and it is played from higher levels.
Naturally, we are also present on these higher levels and the trick is to
become consciously aware on these levels. First of all naturally, we need
to know that there are higher levels and what goes on there...
Note:
I think the above also answers Mahrouk's question.
Here it is ---> Why is it that one does not hear things like, we create our
own reality', from the mystics, Sufis, Bodhisattvas ...?
The answer is Yes/No - because the scenarios in the world are created by
means of human instruments (read bio-computers) and these computers can be
programmed. I am thinking here of religions, traditions, politics and other
silly mind-sets). These human computers then think/feel/experience a
reality they call physical reality. Meanwhie, all things or energies are
mind - and or mind in form. It's a very complicated universal scenario we
are all engaged in...
The Physical Reality, as we experience it, is a most beautiful and
enormously crafty virtual manifestation (read invention) and presently we
have the privilege to be here and experience it. After a enough lifetimes
however, the whole thing becomes a bit boring since the lessons keep
repeating themselves. It might be more interesting for example, to grow up
and start to "play" our own games from a higher level in a conscious manner...
==========================================================================
May 03 2005
QUESTION for SAL - from Su...
was it GEE WHIZ's past life in ancient Greece
where all these humourous quotes
bleed through from ???
i remember you once telling me
about a past life the two of us
old sages shared in ancient greece
Sal: Gee was an etheric guide to some of the famous Greek
Philosophers, guiding and coaching from other planes. You and Gee were
both spirits around the same time guiding and coaching many of Earth's
teachers. You would occasionally "bump into" each other in the etheric
realms and laugh and joke about it and then go back to your own thing.
No, I'm not seeing a physical embodiment you shared, but it sure
seemed physical when you would joke and laugh and discuss the
difficulties you faced when dealing with Earthly souls.
Gee got the quotes from overhearing and eavesdropping on many a
conversation in a hallowed hall of learning.
--Sal
===================
March/5/2005, you wrote:
Gerardus Everardus Tros
December 25 1927, Hoorn, The Netherlands.
Sal here:
Okay, a few highlights. This may seem a bit bizarre, but I'm seeing that you
were a disciple of Krishna during his time on the Earth. You were also a
practical jokester (represented as the "Fool" in the Tarot). You were very
enlightened without a care in the world. Others tried to imitate you but
failed due to their unresolved karmic issues.
I see no karmic lessons remaining in your soul path. You are now a watcher
and you will watch the drama of the coming years unfold, with an occasional
"Fancy that!" or "Oh my, how interesting," thrown in from time to time when
you see a particularly engaging scene in the play.
You've been to Arcturus and Andromeda and a place called Chiron (not the
asteroid). You had several lifetimes in the East and you resonate with
Eastern Philosophy in a natural and no-big-deal sort of way.
Most of your soul family is off-planet and they are awaiting your ascension
into fifth dimension. They view you as a bit stubborn, even though you do
not come across that way to me at all. They are laughing and pointing
etheric fingers at you, saying "The joke's on Gee, the joke's on Gee." I
guess it's an inside joke, because they're not explaining it to me. That's
okay. There's more, but that's enough for right now.
--Sal
---------------------------------------------------------
Gee's Response:
Hello Sal...
General comment first: It could all be true.
It does not matter. I am what I am - the I AM!
Then this:
""You were also a practical jokester
(represented as the "Fool" in the Tarot).""
Some 25 years ago I had never seen the Tarot Cards.
I pulled one just to see. I pulled The Fool!
After that I became worse - Gee
(Thank You Sal for the Reading)
BTW:
I do not know what the inside joke is.
Except that the Joke is on us/me!
Also, all jokes are inside jokes.
What else?
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March 03 2005:
J. here:
I don't know about that. That's not my inner experience of God/TIL.
I get the sense of its caring deeply.
I read somewhere that "the universe bends in your direction" and I
believe that is true.
Hi J....
My intuition tells me that there are Beings on a higher level than humans
are, and yes, they do care for humans. They care a lot!! Naturally they do,
for they are our Mental and or Spiritual Parents. We are their 'creation' so
to speak. They care for us like we care for our children...
These Beings are not God or TIL. These so called higher Beings also have
TIL flowing or living within them. I feel that the Universe runs on the
Power of TIL - like all our appliances run on the Power of Electricity...
This Power is not consciously aware, and\or loving, and\or hating, and/or
fearing, and/or pleasing to any Being. It just is! It is the Infinite
Subconsciousness or as I call it - The IS. It is our own Infinite
Subconsciousness! However, since we see ourselves as limited beings, we
think that we also have a limited subconsciousness. We are TIL doing its
thing and by whatever we do we slowly become aware that we are TIL expressed
as a reality...
We are infinite Giants living and thinking like limited Dwarfs - Gee
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June 2003
Gerardus here:
To whom it may concern...
Different countries have different people and these different people have
different levels of awareness. From my 75 years of experiences, and from the
countries I have lived in and have visited, I would say that the level of
awareness in "general" was very high in The Netherlands, Sweden, Norwegian,
Germany, Denmark, England and Europe as a whole. Immigrate from there to
Canada and you will meet people with a lower level of awareness. Go from
there to the USA and in general you will find an even lower level yet. This
does not mean that people with a higher level of awareness are better...
We all are actors playing in a Global Performance and play our part.
Meanwhile, there is a Secret World Government that "creates" the necessary
scenes for humans to experience. These experiences are necessary in order to
bring us to higher levels of awareness. Many of these scenes repeat
themselves. Like what Germany was like 70 years ago is what the USA is now.
Consciousness in whatever form cannot learn anything in a perfect world. From
there we could conclude that the more imperfect the world is - the more we
are able to learn...
We are here to become aware, we are not here to live in a world were all
things are perfect and having Tea-Parties is the most valuable thing one
could do. Disasters, wars, suffering, abductions, and whatever else we
experience on this earth are "introduced" by Nature and those who control it.
As well as by those in control of the curriculum of Humanity and the lessons
to be learned...
Yes, Governments can be changed. But what is really changed? A different
name, a different face - that's all. Same deceptions! The Secret
Government is in ultimate control. I do see that there are gross
irregularities among Politicians that come to light - but also those who are
running the show are here to learn their lessons. Who are to judge anyone?
Ultimately there is no right or wrong - only lessons! The world is exactly
as it should be. One needs to "see through" it - that is one of the most
important lessons to be learned while we are here. My view however is but a
human glance...
There is a season and time for all happenings - Gerardus
==========================================================================
June 2005
Gerardus here:
To One and All...
If it is true that all humans on earth are engaged in a Cosmic Play in order
to learn - it means that we are all actors playing our roles in this
collective performance. It could well be then, that some of us in the past
were active in the Negative and others in the Positive. These roles
naturally reversed themselves and this would mean that all of us have
learned certain lessons by playing all kinds of different roles. By this I
mean that no-one is really ahead or behind as a Soul or GodBeing...
Time and Space are illusions, as well as that the entire universe high and
low is a Glorified Dream of the Infinite We Are! Therefore, all of us are
equal!
The idea that some will be harvested in the future as Ra calls it - and
others not - might not be the way it will be by the end of 2012. By this I
mean to say - that all of us could be ready for a Collective Ascension or
moving into a higher density. We as actors among ourselves "play" this
performance for the entertainment and experience for all of us to learn to
love and understand. Who is to say that some of us know or love or
understand more than others? IOW: why leave any of us behind?? We are all
the same TIL in human manifestation...
We are all figments in the Dream or Creation of the One Dreamer - the One We
Are! Is not this the One who is waking up within all of us by means of all
of us?
Is there anyone on TL who feels the same way about the above? - Gerardus
==========================================================================
June 2005
Subject: [TL] Short Cuts on The Matrix is Within...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
I had a discussion on an other list and the following was said.
I think it also fits on TL - so here it is!
----------------------------------------------------
J. posted:
Outside All is one and all is contained
in "I am". In the waking and dream states it is the person. In deep
sleep and turiya [samadhi] it is the Self. Beyond the alert
intentness of turiya lies the great, silent peace of the Supreme. But
in fact all is one in essence and related in appearance. In ignorance
the seer becomes the seen, and in wisdom he is the seeing. (68)
etc. etc.
--------------------
J. here:
Gee - I think this is what you are saying, too, but I'm finding it a
bit tricky to grok. I seem to wander in and out of inspirational
flashes, at the moment....
Gee here:
Yes! It is tricky to grok because basically it is ungrokable. It is
understood radically or by intuitional means. One just knows without
attempting to know! It will come to us automatically I feel and the more
we expect or look for it - the more our "mental-walls" keep it out...
Also, it might be wise to comprehend the following --> We all are The
Infinite Light - FULLY. Nothing is left out. We just have not experienced
this in an individual sense. IOW: The Christ Within need to grow a bit
more by surrendering to what is. Trust The Self We Are...
I have read the stuff you copied J. and agree with it. What we forget is
that the issue cannot be understood by means of words. It can only be
experienced! Means - we must just be what we are for now and it will
happen. Be joyful! Our very searching or desiring for it stands in the way
of experiencing it I feel...
------------------------------------
J. here:
For me, it seems that a 'stream of consciousness' has awakened me to
this realisation....and the source is outside the matrix mind
(although All is One, damn, this is hard!).
Gee here:
All is One - YES! That Oneness however has many aspect/us and we get lost
thinking that we are "outside" or "inside" of it -or- that it is all
within us. Not so! We are it - but confused! There is no "inside" or
"outside" to it! We are confused -or- our 3D thinking is distorted
because we do not grok the entire picture because we have not experienced
it. It's a vertical move in awareness...
-----------------------------------------
J. here:
Yes, I feel it is. I (we) have created the holographic Illusion and
the matrix is the same thing....a mental construct. What you access
is 'outside' of the matrix/mind because it's YOURSELF, pure
Consciousness. If you wish to transcend the matrix, I believe all
you need to do is constantly affirm the dream and that you are the
dreamer, that you are everything, as Gee says. That means no
polarity, at all.
Gee here:
Yes! The Dreamer and Dream are one - but sooner or later the Dreamer wakes
up and the dream falls away. Within the Dream there are figments or rules
that make up Matrixes or Mindsets. Adherence to, or the default following
of any Mindset, keeps us in a prison. Meanwhile, any Mindset is only an
aspect of the Whole. The whole has many Matrixes so to speak - but no
Matrix contains the whole! A Matrix is only a specific hologram of the
whole. The Whole contains many. We could say that our Matrix is our
Subconsciousness or Soul. It needs help by either more experiences and/or
different energies that awaken us further...
----------------------------------
J. here:
It's the mind which is enslaving us, that's my point. It's a self-
inflicted prison; there's nothing else out there. As Sri
Nisargadatta Maharaji says, there is literally nothing outside, at
Consciousness level, so the hologram must be the dream too.
Gee here:
Yes, the ideas we have -or- our mindset forms the walls of our prison. It
is self-inflicted but this is unavoidable. We need to reach its limits and
make a quantum jump to escape. This might happen to those who are "close"
when 2012 hits us for example. There are automatic awareness-releases so
to speak in this new energy that hits us day in day out. This means that
some of us will awaken sooner and others later...
----------------------------------------
J. here:
I can see you're fixed on this but it's unusual for you not to be
open to discussion. As you've said before, our rants aren't
circular, they're spiral. Between us, we are finding the answers,
slowly. One of the keys to freedom is to establish whether or not
the matrix is within us. It's crucial to our understanding.
Gee here:
Our Beingness - Us or The Universe - contains all Matrixes and/or
Mindsets. Each Matrix is a specific way of thinking and or
deception/distortion. Presently, we live life within our Matrix in a
default manner. We do not know any better until we feel-reason this out.
This is speeded up by networking ideas so to speak. So! We presently have
by default surrendered to our own specific Matrix which is different for
each one of us - we all create our own...
---------------------------------
Until, that is, something of a major shift occurs in our minds -
[aka, at this level of being, our DNA] - by which we will be able
to see beyond the limitations of our current perspectives.>
J. here:
This discussion is part of the shift.
Gee here:
YES! Exactly!!
It changes our DNA automatically. As I have said in my writing in other
places/articles - we literally talk/think/receive/intuit ourselves into a
more enlightened state continuously. We can't help but grow in awareness...
I do feel that...
Our progress is automatic but one can help some - Gerardus
------------------------------------------------------------
Gerardus here:
Some days ago I posted some of my discussions from another list to TL.
The following is the continuation of it. Some new members might like this...
----------------------------------------------------------
M. here again:
In fact, on that thought, wasn't it George Orwell [a British Secret
Service agent] who was famous for having said:
"If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if
the mind itself is controllable - what then?"
Gerardus here:
There is no 3D world out there. All takes place in mind/awareness. (See
David Icke latest book or read my articles). Then this: The mind is like a
computer! This computer has a programmer. This programmer is asleep and
wakes up because of the programs that are imposed upon it from the so called
"outside". Sooner or later the programmer wakes up and becomes smart enough
to program its own mind. This is a bit by bit learning affair. Pretty soon
we know that we create our own reality...
The ChristMind is born - Gerardus
-------------------------------------------------------
Hi Gerardus, enjoyed your responses to J. have a few
questions/comments.
I have read the stuff you copied Julie and agree with it. What we
forget is
that the issue cannot be understood by means of words. It can only be
experienced! Means - we must just be what we are for now and it will
happen. Be joyful! Our very searching or desiring for it stands in
the way
of experiencing it I feel...
J2 here:
I agree on the importance of just being, but if we have a strong desire
for something, that's part of our being, isn't it?
Hello J2 - Gee here:
Within manifestation nothing comes about without desire. Creations need
impulse. Meanwhile, whatever we experience as a desire needs to be fulfilled
since suppression desires plugs the flow of the universe. The light within
us would diminish and the body we are in would get sick with suppressed
goodies so to speak...
-------------------------------------------------
J2 here:
I've heard it said that desire is a prayer...
Gee here:
Call it anything you like. It does not makes it what it is. Basically the
entire universe is a prayer - a Prayer to the Creator We Are. A wish
fulfilled...
--------------------------------
Gee here:
our 3D thinking is distorted
because we do not grok the entire picture because we have not experienced
it. It's a vertical move in awareness...
J2 here:
What's that mean--a vertical movement in awareness?
Gee here:
A vertical movement is a Gigantic Lightbulb Moment that might blind us for a
second. When this blindness clears we are in 4D so to speak. We think and
feel differently now because our understanding of things has expanded. We
are higher up on the Awareness Totem Pole! Now, there are different
Gigantic Lightbulb Moments. For some they happen fast for others they take
place over thirty years. That's me!
---------------------------------------------------
Gee here:
A Matrix is only a specific hologram of the
whole. The Whole contains many. We could say that our Matrix is our
Subconsciousness or Soul. It needs help by either more experiences
and/or different energies that awaken us further...
J2 here:
That was my feeling also, that the Matrix is not the same thing as the
larger hologram or dream. But how do you get that the Matrix is our soul?
I would think that it would be more akin to our ego.
Gee here:
I spoke from my point of view or understanding! A human being is like a
house with two masters. The Ego and the Soul. For most people the Ego is
dominant and for a few the Soul is peeping through and gets a word in
edgewise (There is this "me" again). When the Soul becomes dominant the Ego
slowly dies because of a lack of attention. It's a natural process. When
that happens the Soul enjoys more vertical movements in awareness and cuts
right through the supper-imposed Matrix that is fed to the Ego-Masses. From
then on in, the Soul begins to create/live/see beyond the Matrix or Mind-Set
in which the masses are stuck or imprisoned...
It is reaching and building its own Matrix or Soul then - Gerardus
(I have said before - *The IS* We Are - is an individual creation)
(( The IS - The Infinite Subconsciousness or Creator ))
--------------------------------------------
Hi Gerardus, one more thing...
Gerardus wrote:
> Yes! The Dreamer and Dream are one - but sooner or later the Dreamer
> wakes up and the dream falls away.
J2 here:
And when the dream falls away--what is left? Just pure Awareness?
Gee here:
Yes... Whatever pure Awareness is...
In the mean time - good question!
My answer is an iffy. Means, I do not know for sure, but I figure/intuit
that we have reached "The One We Actually Are" with full Conscious Awareness
and/or Self-Awareness and/or Self-Realization. This means to me that we
will be able to materialize any body at will and or channel anyone human...
Also we will be able to visit any occasion in our creation at any time and
space or dimension. More often then not so to speak, we leave things alone
because we know that All Is Well! There might be periods however where we
feel the need to help others like all Masters do in their own way. NOW!
That was a lot of intuiting and I suggest that you either endure or enjoy it
with a bit of salt. It might be lacking something...
That's it Folks - Gee
============================================================================
July 2005
Subject: [TL] What is happening to our world?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
Our world is a Three Dimensional Expression of the Universe. These
Expressions run in cycles and we have come to the end of our 3D cycle
by the year 2012. To Humanity this means that the 3D world will be
phased out. How is this done? Simple! A lot of it will be done by
Mankind itself and the rest will be taken care of by Mother Nature...
The majority of people are not aware that this "phasing out" is
presently taken place and there will be an enormous amount of energy
wasted to keep this 3D world in tact. In all ways, we could say that
the phasing out of the 3D world is an Act of God. No human effort is
able to par that kind of stuff...
As many of us on TriLite know, the Universe (and the world) is a
multi-dimensional phenomenon and when one 3D door closes - other doors
will open. Which door we will enter depends on the level of our
awareness. This is different for everybody and what we will experience
when we have gone through the next door is still a nifty secret to me.
I know for sure however - there are many doors and we will be taken
care of according to the level of awareness we have reached. There is
nothing to be concerned about...
All comments are welcome - Gerardus
Note:
The above post became part of my Opening Statements.
(http://www.soulwise.net/opstat01.htm)
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:55:32 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The world and I...
To whom it may concern...
Different countries have different people and these different people have
different levels of awareness. From my 75 years of experiences, and from the
countries I have lived in and have visited, I would say that the level of
awareness in "general" was very high in The Netherlands, Sweden, Norwegian,
Germany, Denmark, England and Europe as a whole. Immigrate from there to
Canada and you will meet people with a lower level of awareness. Go from
there to the USA and in general you will find an even lower level yet. This
does not mean that people with a higher level of awareness are better...
We all are actors playing in a Global Performance and play our part.
Meanwhile, there is a Secret World Government that "creates" the necessary
scenes for humans to experience. These experiences are necessary in order to
bring us to higher levels of awareness. Many of these scenes repeat
themselves. Like what Germany was like 70 years ago is what the USA is now.
Consciousness in whatever form cannot learn anything in a perfect world. From
there we could conclude that the more imperfect the world is - the more we
are able to learn...
We are here to become aware, we are not here to live in a world were all
things are perfect and having Tea-Parties is the most valuable thing one
could do. Disasters, wars, suffering, abductions, and whatever else we
experience on this earth are "introduced" by Nature and those who control it.
As well as by those in control of the curriculum of Humanity and the lessons
to be learned...
Yes, Governments can be changed. But what is really changed? A different
name, a different face - that's all. Same deceptions! The Secret
Government is in ultimate control. I do see that there are gross
irregularities among Politicians that come to light - but also those who are
running the show are here to learn their lessons. Who are to judge anyone?
Ultimately there is no right or wrong - only lessons! The world is exactly
as it should be. One needs to "see through" it - that is one of the most
important lessons to be learned while we are here. My view however is but a
human glance...
There is a season and time for all happenings - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:13:03 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Bishop or Crook or Both...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
This is what I think to be so:
All Teachings are only Stories. All Stories are only Teachings.
Neither One is either True or False. Often they are a bit of each.
All experiences provide us with knowledge and information.
Now, forget about that...
In the mean time, whatever we do in our lives, whether this is being a
Bishop or a Crook - or both simultaneously - it makes no difference.
We could be any Personality or Non-Personality - it does not matter...
All our lives provide us with experiences. We have these experiences
in order to learn who or what we actually are. Not any one of our
experiences is either right or wrong - they are what they are.
They are opportunities to learn about ourselves...
Whatever we do or whoever we are - it does not matter. The basic task
is learning or remembering. HOWEVER - how we behave towards others is
most important - there are consequences! We are The One Energy or
Essence. Which means that if and when we hurt Others - we hurt Ourselves.
Until we fully awaken our Lives are Dreams that are Real - Gerardus
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July 29 2005
Gerardus here:
Sooner or later we realize that we are dreaming. It means that we know
that the person we are does not really exist and that we are already
dead. At that very instant it becomes important to stay alive as long
as possible! Somehow I thought that this was funny. But now that I
have written it down - it sounds as if I am trying to dead-pan you.
Not sure what that really means but it also sounds funny...
Funny moments take place in a few cubic centimeters within my brain. I
cannot figure out how this really could be so since I do not actually
exist. Who am I and who's brain am I using? Is there even a brain
that I could call mine in an illusionary reality in which I know that
it is false or does not exist?
The trouble is that Tree Dimensionality seems to be real, but it
disappears when we quit dreaming or are not looking at it. Remember -
the observer is the observed! Blink and we disappear... Weird!
Meanwhile, this 3D reality also only takes place in a few cubic
centimeters of my brain. I figure that my life is a dream with a
dream-body that tells me that it thinks or pretends to be Gerardus and
has a good time doing it. Maybe this is enough to exist and keep doing it...
Weird Man... Weird! - Gee
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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:23:39 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Dimensional Shift...
At 08:35 AM 8/3/2005, you wrote:
Gerardus here:
The following is as I understand things to be!
The author has put it together perfectly.
Is it all true? Let's wait and see - Gee
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An overview of the dramatic changes to world civilisation.
by Tony Wicks
INTRODUCTION
As incredible as it may seem to many people, humanity on Earth is in
the process of an evolutionary change in how we experience life. We
are to become a galactic civilisation, interacting positively with
the many star system civilisations in our galaxy and universe, and
indeed other universes. It is our true destiny to change from a
society based on fear and competition, to one based on love, peace,
and harmony. The current chaos is merely part of the quickening change.
------- cut ----------------
Gerardus here:
I am responding to my own "Dimensional Shift" post and I would like to
add some additional notes here. I have read the entire "Dimensional
Shift" post this time and I found that towards to end there were a few
statements that I cannot directly agree with. So, I accept what was
said, but not necessarily agree with all of it. Particularly the words
about the Ashtar Command and his UFO Fleet ready to intervene at any
time so to speak. I am 50/50 about this. If so, Fine! If not so, also Fine!
Then about "splitting of our 3D world" - well, this is a difficult
subject to fathom because there actually is no 3D world as such. There
is only Holographic Energy that we experience as a 3D reality! We all
create 3D images in our head from this Holographic Energy and all
images differ because we all have different systems of awareness.
These 3D images exist in our heads only - not out there...!
So, because of our different awareness levels we think/feel/create our
own 3D OR 4D/5D worlds - because the old hologram of our 3D world
has been split by higher forces into two different reality systems.
One 3D holographic reality and one 4D/5D holographic reality. Whatever
reality would be the most natural to us - that is the one we will be
attuning to - or become aware of. Now - I am not sure whether all
this is clear enough to fathom for all of us. Sometimes I think I
know how it works, but a few seconds later it gets lost in my own
explanation. Clarity my Soul - I need Clarity...
Lots of it! - Gee
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Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:48:57 -0700
To: gerardus@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Gerardus about Fred Irland!
At 02:20 AM 8/20/2005, you wrote:
Thanks for that explanation, Fred.
BTW I hope you don't mind me asking - are you a teacher by profession or by
inclination ? Have I asked that before? The patient and thorough way in
which you answer questions, makes me think you would make a great
professor. Plus of course, your vast knowledge.
Mahrouk
Gerardus butting in here:
Fred is an exceptional Human Soul with an enormous amount of knowledge
about almost anything. On top of that, he is able to explain his
"knowing" in such a way that no miss-understanding is possible...
I have been waiting for a chance to express my appreciation of Fred in
a public manner on many occasions and this seemed to me the most
opportune time. I am glad Fred is on TriLite. Thank You Fred!
This could well be...
the first and last time...
I speak about any member on the List - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:31:46 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] That's what I say!
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
My Recent Article -- http://www.soulwise.net/26y-world.htm
According to the above article - all major happenings on Earth are
planned by those who I call - The Keepers of Humanity. This means that
the New Orleans flooding and aftermath are planned operations and all
is as it should be...
Question here:
Is this New Orleans flood right... or is it wrong?
I say - this is not for human beings to be judged - because we do not
have the 'oversight' of what needs to occur on the Earth Plane in
order for human Souls to progress on the Ladder of Awareness.
Basically human beings know nothing about the Great Scheme of their
own existence - UNLESS they are a Master and/or fully Enlightened.
Are there any Masters on TL? Please let me know - I need your Blessing!
About - "All is as it should be".
For example: when was the last day, and at what time of day, of which
you could say: the world is exactly right at present? Was it "as it
should be for you" ?? and for you ONLY? What about the next guy or
family? What about the guy who fell of his roof in China? How could
we know what is right for us and/or for others? What do we really
know and when could be possibly say - this is NOT right!! And that is
NOT right!! All those words are but personal speculation (read baloney)
based on a personal lack of awareness. We know next to nothing - IF NOT
NOTHING AT ALL...
That's what I say! - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 07:42:26 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Does Human Logic Count?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 09:17 PM 9/7/2005, you wrote:
>Hi Gerardus - Chris here:
>There was a person who said that "logic is a prostitute." Every lawyer has
>their own logic. Every human has their own logic. Why would Human Logic
>not Count?
>
>I conclude that there are no conclusions.
Aha Chris...
I like your non-conclusion!
More and more I fathom that all conclusions are illusions.
What else can they be taking today's Cookie into account?
Here it is:
... SINCE EVER ...
Your Identity... is the Identity
of
God the Infinite.
When you realize this... you know
that the Person you are... does not really exist.
Physical Reality is an illusionary State of Mind.
You are...
GOD THE INFINITE
dreaming that you are You.
You have been this Greatness... since ever.
THERE IS BUT ONE IDENTITY IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE
All this means naturally that Gerardus is God the Infinite (or TIL) in
a confused state of mind thinking that it is Gerardus. If he was not
such a nice guy - one could say that this confused God is a temporary
individual driven by the intention of a lunatic trying to convert
others to his own level of confusion and conclusion. Which actually
is a non-conclusion according to Chris. Human life is very weird.
Especially so, since it takes place within a few cubic centimeters of
their brains - which also do not exist...
What really am I and what am I doing here? - Gee
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:29:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: Cindy Sheehan...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 07:48 PM 9/11/2005, you wrote:
Gee wrote:
Like: get the Americans out of Afghanistan and Iraq - No Terrorism.
There was no (or a lot less) Terrorism before they went in there.
Terrorists did not bring down the 911 Towers.
Hi Gee
That's true but that's because the terrorists went to Afghanistan, Iraq,
New Orleans, NY and so on. I feel the Muslims who are paid to carry out CIA
dirty work are, like you say, - Patsy Terrorists. If one HAS TO put a
religion to terrorism, it would be Christianity & Zionism ....
The real terrorist Handlers are probable waaay beyond religion but they
have been able to con the world into believing the Islamic world =
terrorism. The zillions who have bought into this thinking lend
energy/support to the Handlers ?
Mahroukie
Hi Mahroukie...
Yes, the entire world or what's happening in it is a con-game. From
where I am looking it has always been that way. It has to be! What
the game is, and how it is played, is not important. Waking up is
important and the way by which this is done does not matter -
anywhichwaywhatsoever is fine! Awakening is the clue...
No one can awaken in a world without con-games or plays created by our
Higher-Density-Keepers and their inspirations to those who so called
rule this world. Without games, plays and the like - a full hundred
percent of the people would drink tea, talk nonsense and stay asleep!
At least, presently, possibly, hopefully, 5% of the people see
something funny going on and their investigation awakens them. IOW:
Mr Push is not inept - the sleepers are! They cannot see beyond the
actor. He is TIL as much as you and I are - or anybody...
Truth is Simple - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:14:53 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] What is the point of Life?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
What is the point of Life?
What is the point of the World or the entire Universe for that matter?
From where I am looking now - there is no 'point' to anything - except
to be reminded by whatever pleasure or suffering we meet - that We
Are The Truth! Since we are 'reminded' - proves that we already knew
this before. And then I ask... where was this 'knowing' before we
were reminded? And where does it go when we forget again?
Life is an Infinite Make-Work-Project? - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:39:34 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Just you wait - it's Hilarious Man
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
: : : Now Hear This : : :
============================
In a little while...
we will be able to watch Saddam and his Cabal on trial in Iraq
and simultaneously we can watch Mr Push and his Cabal on trial on PBS.
Is not that a most absurd and hilarious finally for the End of Times?
A true act of God so to speak...
No doubt it will wake up the last of the sleepers.
It might even wake up a couple of dead guys!
Just can't wait - Hilarious Man... Hilarious!
And yes, it is sad too... but not really...
Everything is as it should be.
Human life is an invention by a Cosmic Comedian!
Be Here Now and Enjoy - Gerardus
Added later: Nov. 6/2010 - Too bad it did not happen that way
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Dec 24 2005
Leo...
An interesting piece from St Germain that I share
with you.......what do you make of it Sal?
---------------------------------------------
Wakeup Call Message December 22, 2004
St Germain:
My dear ones, this is a time for all of you to take a break and
listen to your hearts. There is something afoot here that is about to
split wide open. You will need to be in tune with your hearts in
order to stay above all the stuff that is coming down. There will be
a great rumbling in the united States and then all will explode into
fire and promises left unbroken over the centuries. The truth will
come streaming forth, and there will be many who will need your
compassion and your prayers.
------- cut a lot -------------
Hi Leonard - Gerardus here:
Yes, I do think that there will be a "reckoning" and the entire sordid mess
will be exposed. No doubt 911 was an inside job and many other "beginnings"
of the wars in the last 50 years or more. Our so called Leaders and Rulers
will be ousted. Some might even be assassinated and/or impeached. Hang on to
you seat at the boob tube. Worldwide exposure coming up...
The time is ripe for all of this - Gerardus
(Time span 2005 to 2008/09 maybe sooner)
Added on Nov. 6/2010 --- Nothing of that nature has happened as yet!
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:43:55 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Does this make sense?
Gerardus here:
There is only Consciousness!
The word 'only' here - excludes all other worlds, beings, things,
creatures and/or realities - except for the sub-personalities or
sub-realities Consciousness is, and is able to create and experience.
Each sub-personalities, or sub-reality, or dream, or focus, or being,
or creature, exist within Consciousness as a specific state of
awareness or focus...
So each and every human being is Consciousness with a specific state
of awareness that is represented by the life or dream it is living and
is experienced by Consciousness as the existence of that individual!
Within each dream certain other beings or dreams are experienced as if
they are separate. Because of the level of awareness endured or
enjoyed by these sub-personalities, it seems as if there are different
worlds, beings, things, creatures and/or realities. This is not so!
It all is only a dream - dreams seem real however...
There is but One Consciousness and within it - all dreams, focuses,
beings, creatures, and sub-realities take place. The miracle is - that
Consciousness is able to focus from within each seemingly separate
sub-reality or aspect of itself - and is able to behave from within
this aspect as if it exist on its own and has free will. In that
condition it exists as a figment of its own imagination and enjoys or
endures a dis-associated state of being. IOW: it is not quite Itself!
All this concludes that Consciousness has within itself an infinite
amount of sub-selves or sub-realities behaving and experiencing
themselves as semi-independent. Until they eventually become aware
that they are Consciousness with a specific state of awareness that
tells them that they are This or That. There is neither This not That
naturally - but trying to explain this state of awareness or condition
to them is a hopeless task. They will realize this when they awaken
from their dream. Meanwhile, This and That are dreams states of the
One Consciousness and have no actual existence in and by themselves...
I ain't quite MySelf today - Figment Gee
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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:46:10 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] back to Free Will...
At 10:56 AM 3/13/2006 +0530, you wrote:
Gerardus here:
I wish Ramesh would quite reading my thoughts backwards. Doesn't he
know that he is both ends of the twisted spectrum? Why doesn't he
unruffled his twister and discover that he is TIL in the form of
Ramesh? Means if TIL has free will - so has Ramesh... so has
Mahroukie... so has Gerardus... so has Everybody including Mr
Push! Even Gee has got it...
What the heck is his problem? - Gerardus
( Does his own Light blind him? )
I ain't quite MySelf today - Figment Gee
Hi Gee - Mahroukie here:
Aah there you have it - Ramesh would say *Consciousness is all there is - SO
how can there be a Ramesh & Consciousness??*. Again he would agree with you
in that Ramesh like Gee is a 'Figment' but would have trouble allotting
free-will to a fig :) hehhe ho haha
***
Added on Nov 6/2010
The infinite Light "creates" by means of its figments.
See this...
***
Hello Mahroukie...
With great respect to Ramesh, who I would love to meet - but most
likely never will - I say to you --- that's where Ramesh' trouble is.
He does not allot free will to figs. What a blunder!
All this in joking ernesty naturally...
Now where were we...
TIL appears as and in - AND IS - the form of a fig out of free will
because TIL wants to be a fig in order to experience figness. While
being a fig it has extended its free will to the fig, but naturally
the fig has the free will to deny acceptance of that free will and
say: "I haven't got any, but I could behave as if I have". If we on
TL would never speak about this no one would know the difference...
Also use it or lose it maybe - Gerardus
( hehhe ho haha x hehhe ho haha )
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:44:06 -0400
To: "Gerardus"
From: "Numerologist.com"
Subject: More about your numerology chart Gerardus
Hi there Gerardus,
I hope you enjoyed the sample reading I sent you yesterday.
I've been looking a little deeper at your numerology chart
Gerardus, and here is what I have found:
I see you floating in a sea of endless time - great vistas and a
feeling of lifetimes behind and ahead of you. I get the feeling of
urgency with you Gerardus, things that must be done,
lessons that must be experienced. I sense the rhythm of life, the
cycles we all experience.
From your Life Path in combination with your Soul Urge, I get the
impression that you have a pleasant personality, and are generally
liked by others. You can be easily hurt at times, and as a result
are more careful with displaying your feelings than you used to be.
Gerardus, I sense that you are a very busy person who is
always on the go. The more you have on your plate, the better.
At times you wish you had less to do, but you would be totally lost if
you woke up one morning and found nothing at all to do! This
couldn't happen, of course, as every time you get a space you seem
to fill it up very quickly. You'll be just as busy in late life as
well ... in fact you won't get time to grow old, you'll just simply
keep on growing!
Having said that, it's not surprising you need a break after this
past year. Let's face it - we all need a little breathing space now
and again to re-charge our batteries. Remember to take time to
smell the roses!
Gerardus, you have had a few worries recently about money,
but you know you have the power to solve them. While it's been a
bit of a bumpy ride financially these past couple of years, the
next 18 months or so will be a lot easier.
Looking at your Personal Days and Personal Months, you should be
pleased Gerardus ... it shows that shortly you will receive
some pleasant news. It is nothing momentous, but is sufficient to
raise your sights and hopes. It is good news.
I sense a period early on in your life - teenage years perhaps -
when you felt misunderstood, as if you couldn't really get close to
anyone, as it you are walking on the outside of life. These
feelings very occasionally reoccur.
You are a very special person Gerardus. The experiences you
undergo are all for a very special purpose, one I'm sure you are
not aware of yet. Nevertheless, you are progressing in exactly the
right direction. Your timing is good and you are learning from
every experience. I don't know if you believe in reincarnation, but
I get the feeling that you are a highly evolved person, as if you
have lived many times before. In time you will have much to offer
the rest of us.
Romantically, it has not always been easy, and your outlook on like
has changed because of this. The future is much easier in this
regard than in the past.
Gerardus, you have sometimes wondered if you have made the
right decisions at times, and it looks as it you have. You work
best when you make your own mind up on things, though it is useful
to ask other people for advice before you make your own mind up.
I see some travel in your future, and several new horizons
beckoning. Your progress in this world has not always been as fast
as you would like, but I can see significant growth in the future.
You tend to feel you have a lot of unused capacity, and that people
don't always give you full credit for your abilities.
I can see you happy and productive in your old age, surrounded by
friends and family. You are of above average intelligence, and will
keep on learning all the way through life.
Gerardus, this is just the smallest glimpse of what
numerology can show you about your past, your present, and your
future. I have something truly exciting I'd like to share with you,
where you can get a "sneak peak" into the surprising future that
awaits you:
http://clicks.aweber.com/z/ct/?DD36ASvWAmj_lJJue67gYQ
Peace and light,
Blair
Numerologist.com
Added on Nov 6 2010 by Gee: All of it mostly true!
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:15:30 -0800
To: Gee@cablerocket.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Biography of Gerardus...
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Gerardus Everardus Tros
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Short Biography of Gerardus...
Gerardus Everardus Tros was born in the City of Hoorn, The Netherlands on
Dec. 25 / 1927 and his education was partly interrupted because of the
German occupation. Self study and evening classes helped to overcome this
lack. At the age of fourteen he started work and became familiar with the
electrical trade. Eventually he became an Electrical Supervisor.
In 1957 at the age of 29 he immigrated to Edmonton, Canada, where he found
work at a Power Generation Station and in his later years worked on the
engineering staff of an electrical control division. In 1983 he retired and
spent most of his time refining his metaphysical writing abilities. He
produced seven manuscripts and more than 700 poems or compositions. Two of
his books were self-published and some of his work has been contributed to
the CompuServe Libraries.
His writing illustrates a profound intuitive perspective of the nature of
mankind and it creates a fresh insight into the so illusive purpose of human
existence. For about fifteen years, he and his second wife Ellen, lived in
their RV and traveled in the U.S.A. and Canada. Presently he resides in
Oliver, B.C. Canada. He regards himself as an ordinary man with some unusual
abilities. These became more pronounced because of the help of his Guides
and Teachers. Since 1995 he has become involved with the Internet and all of
his works are available via the World Wide Web. Many people appreciate his
material and use it as a source of metaphysical knowledge and wisdom. He
smilingly nods his head and says. That's part of what I came to do on
Earth... You are welcome!
Gerardus
BTW: Please remember if it ever happens:
When his body dies he does not want a minute of Silence. He wants two minutes
of uproarious Laughter!
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:20:28 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] 2000 year old book
At 12:31 AM 3/22/2007 +0000, you wrote:
Gerard here,
Friends of mine, who undertook the most hopeless task to convert me,
tell me that in their "book" the sentence is: "The kingdom of heaven
is AMONG you!!!" They claim to have the right book and say that the
translation WITHIN is a mistake. So who has the right book?
Gerardus here:
The 'right' book is determined or chosen by our conditioning or
brainwashing. Any Belief has the tendency to become Truth to the
believer when it has been implanted since birth. The brain is a
computer and can be programmed with any Belief. Garbage in - Garbage
out! We see this happening daily in our world and all its belief systems...
--------------------------------------
By the way in the New Testament there are beautiful stories but
parts of the old testament make me shudder.
Regards gerard
Many stories, in these so called Holy Scriptures are Fear Tactics.
All religions have them! Fear Tactics keep the religions in place
and in power for those who have not learned to think for themselves.
This is as it should since all Lies need to be experienced in order
to eventually recognize the Truth. The Truth is - "what we are" -
beliefs and opinions are what we have...
-----------------------------
PS the sentence "within" makes more sense to me than "among" but of
my friends and I one party must have been brainwashed.
Yes!
Then - 'among you' is not completely wrong since the "Kingdom of
Heaven" lies just beyond the ordinary mind. Ordinary minds live all
'among us' - billions of them. Meanwhile, our mind is the Universal
Mind in the process of recognizing itself and until then - is either
asleep, unconscious or immature (See Note). The recognition that our
individual mind actually is the All-Mind is a process that takes
place in time. This could take thousands of lifetimes. Who knows. It
all depends what we are interested in...
Note:
We need to recognize here, that only when we have fully awakened, and
only then, have we reached Maturity of Mind. Which I see as - the
Christ Consciousness or the Buddha Consciousness. Until then we are
all kind of immature. Including the writer...
Sooner or later we will all reach that Level of Being - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:49:13 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Global Dimming - Serious Business
At 07:51 AM 8/9/2007 +0530, you wrote:
This bounced - so resending :
PROF VEERABHADRAN RAMANATHAN: The stunning part of the experiment was
this pollutant layer which was three kilometre thick, cut down the
sunlight reaching the ocean by more than 10%.
NARRATOR: A 10% fall in sunlight meant that particle pollution was
having a far bigger effect than anyone had thought possible.
Hi Gee, Mahroukie here:
hmmmmm this is all sooo very simple, clear and easy to understand. Let me
see if I've got it right.
a.. Pollution causes Global Dimming
b.. Pollution causes Global warming
c.. Reduce the dimming and increase the warming....
d.. Then other scientific studies say It IS the SUNs fault. That guy has
been getting warmer since the ice age. What can we insignificant little
humans (who do not exist) do the stop the BIG GUY ? We can help him a
weeeeeeee bit by being really dirty...
Thanks Gee, I can now go to bed with a smile on my face knowing the world is
doing just fine and will do what it has to do, with or without heavy duty
scientific confusion. Lets party :)
"Nothing would be what it is, Because everything would be what it isn't. And
contrary-wise - what it is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it
would. You see?" - Alice in Wonderland.
Hi Mahroukie...
Yes!
The party or celebration is ON!
It always has been on in the first place.
Like: Enjoy the journey because you already have arrived!
Your a.. b.. c.. and d.. are as things are... Good! The point
here is that since it is all ONE - it is self-correcting because it
is infinite intelligence doing its thing...
So, there is an infinite balance of whatever we do or not do. That is
why the world is as it should be at any times or no time! This means
that in the end, which is the beginning, it all makes no difference
what we do or not do. It's emptiness dancing... infinitely!
And it's all taking place NOW!
I think all this is possible because it is all an illusion or dream in
the first place - in which we think that we exist and are making a
difference. All in all - the entire manifestation is nothing but a
'happening in mind' that eventually teaches all of us to realize that
we are the ONE doing all things and ARE all things - expressed as a
Unit of Oneness that escapes most human nuggets - except for a few
naturally...
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New thought:
The more I am alone - the more I become balanced!
Being balanced naturally means being Whole - being the ONE.
Slowly but surely - we will all open up to The Infinite ONE - Gerardus
(The world and the universe is a dream that dreams itself - enjoy it!)
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Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:54:07 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: Peaceful
At 09:16 PM 07/10/2007, you wrote:
Sathya wrote:
Choose light and good, the darkness and devil will disappear...
Thus spoke Zarathustra.
Hi Sathya,
Yeah maybe he said it. I wasn't there, so not sure.
I think the question would be what is 'light' 'good' 'dark' and
wow !!! Devil.
That's a tough one. Who is THAT ??
Where did this "DEVIL" come from.
All too much for me
Mahrouk
Gerardus butting in:
God / TIL / Allah / Devil / Satan and all other imaginary deities -
including Saints as well as Rascals - ARE all creations of the human
mind. The human mind likes to create puzzles and questions. It also
likes to explain. Sometimes, it even seems to outsmart itself. Some
explanations are accepted as truth in a universe full of illusions.
In which we use illusions to explain illusions...
There is only One Energy and We All Are That (in different forms).
Dreaming or creation illusions accepted as realities by innocent and
ignorant humans. Before we know it - the world is appearing in our
dream reality...
There is no world, there are no humans, there is no God or Devil - and
or Saints or Rascals. There is only "The One" dreaming to be all of us
- for the sake of giving its mind or consciousness something to do -
like spreading confusions. Trouble is that people fall for them. Lies
are easier to accept than the fact that they are the One Energy -
doing its thing. Which more or less is nothing but entertainment of
the first order...
In the mean time, the world and its humanity go through different
cycles or periods in this dream - in which the relationships of good
and bad are interchanged depending on who commits them. All of it is
only for one Purpose - to awaken the sleeping soul (TIL) that lives
and/or is the human in this dream...
Conclusion:
Life is a mystery communication with itself. Meanwhile, the "me" we
think we are always finds itself inadequate. Why? It's because there
is no "me" in the first place. It's an self created or assumed self or
entity that has no actuality whatsoever. It's only an individual
thought, taught to us by our parents who were a victim of the same
brainwashings when they were young. Life is that way...
There is Unborn Awareness and We Are THAT! - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:43:25 -0700
From: GT Eleven
Subject: Re: [TL] Questioning the wheel...
At 01:05 PM 14/09/2008, you wrote:
Questioning the AllThatIs wheel...
Simplistically stated, if the initial reason that ATI fragmented was
because of wanting to create and become more than it was..... then
for us holographic ATI fragments to think there's nothing more to do
than realize we're ATI to return to the state of being bored and
wanting to fragment seems pointless.
So if we step out of the 'everything's OK, I only do what I should,
nothing to do but be, can't make a mistake' comfort zone for a
moment, imagine this it not the bottom line and we're missing some
big puzzle pieces, what would you imagine a different
paradigm/purpose/how best to spend effort could be?
Thanks,
Alex
Hello Alex...
There are a few points in your writing that might not be so.
You have assumed a few things...
1) How do you know that 'All That Is' was bored?
All That Is is not some kind of being or personality!
It is more like the air or like electricity I figure.
The air does not becomes different winds because it is bored
and electricity does not runs through appliances in order to keep busy.
Bottom Line:
All That Is -is- Infinite Subconsciousness.
Like yours and mine and everybody's.
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2) The puzzle as you see it - might not be there either.
Only minds come up with puzzles.
Also, I see 'All That Is' -as- Awareness. It is Feeling Awareness.
But it is unconscious of its own awareness and in order to become
conscious of this awareness OR itself - it expresses itself by (trial
and error) into anything possible. THEN - from within its expressions
(you and me and everybody) it becomes consciously aware of Who and/or
What it is! It is all things and beings expressed and from within
these things and beings it becomes self-aware and conscious of itself
and knows then that it is 'All That Is'...
However, this does not mean that any of these expressions, all of a
sudden, becomes all knowing and/or almighty powerful. The last two
qualities are attained step by step by consciously living life.
Another thing here is - that no one can describe what 'All That Is'
actually is - because the very description LIMITS the actuality and/or
qualities of 'All That Is'...
You and Gerardus, as well as all others, are 'All That Is' living in
particular expressions and we all are slowly learning more and more
about ourselves. Presently we do this in a Time and Space realm.
There are many more realms beyond the Spacio-Temporal-Playground in
which we find ourselves...
One day we will find ourselves there - Gerardus
(There is always more to learn)
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:38:38 -0800
Subject: [TL] What is the world to me?
Gerardus here:
What is the world to me?
It's a bundle of thoughts and/or images in my head or awareness
system. I live with these thoughts and images and not in an actual
world! I did not come to this world in order to learn about the
world. I have come to learn about myself! I am Soul not the Body.
I have learned that the Soul I Am is taking for a ride by the senses of
the body I live in. I have seen the glitter of the world and I'm not
interested in it. No doubt this world has been hijacked a long time
ago - so what? I do not care who so called 'owns' it or 'poisons' it.
It's not an actual world - all are but images of an illusion...
I am the creator of images and their remembrances - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:12:33 -0800
From: GT Eleven
Subject: [SW] Happy Dreams for 2010.. Imagination.
Sender: SoulWise@yahoogroups.com
--- In SoulWise@yahoogroups.com, GT Eleven wrote:
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
To all Dreamers on SoulWise...
Happy times to all of us in our Dreams we call our Lives.
Focus on not focusing for what will be will be without effort.
All of us are Unborn Awareness observing and noticing.
That All is Well weaving moments of Nowness into Eternities
of more and more pleasant dreams full of Inner Smiles.
Caused by the knowledge that all of us are Souls dreaming
that we live in Matter Bodies moving amidst solidities
of illusionary realities created by our dreams.
All Dreams are Real and Actual in which awakening is redundant
for we already are what we have always been - Unborn Awareness.
Pretending that we are human beings...
New Year 2010/01/01 - Gerardus
Leonard Here,
Thanks Gerardus, Imagination does it all.....Eh?
YOUR TRUE ENVIRONMENT IS IN YOUR IMAGINATION!
Your true environment is in your imagination! All that you behold, though it
appears without, it is within, in your imagination - of which this world of
mortality is but a shadow. No matter what is taking place on the outside, it
is but a symbol telling you what is taking place within; for the world is
nothing more than yourself pushed out. Its image, alive in your imagination,
overwhelms you.
Tonight let us turn to the greatest of all books, the Bible. In it we are
told that at the end of the world there would be a great war whose final
battle is called "Armageddon" . You may have been taught that this battle
will take place on the outside, as races battle races, and nations battle
nations. It doesn't mean communism against democracy or socialism against
capitalism. There will always be wars and conflicts; but the battle of
Armageddon is the battle of ideology. This battle does not take place on the
outside, but within each and every individual.
Armageddon is the battle of ideologies, where belief is pitted against
belief. I can't tell you how shocked I was to discover that the Christ to
whom I prayed was within me. Scripture teaches, "Christ in you is the hope
of glory," but I didn't take that statement literally, for I was taught to
look for Christ on the outside. I could find no conflict in that Christ.
I cannot tell you of the shock that comes when all of the beliefs by which
you have lived come tumbling down. You will no longer be able to turn to
anyone on the outside to praise or blame for what is taking place in your
world. If it is unlovely, you are its cause. If it is lovely, you are its
cause. Everything unfolds within you, and you are detached from what takes
issue; yet you know you are its cause, for as the word of truth erupts
within you, it sets one against the other. The word is not confined; but
when it comes - as it has in me - I bring the new wine which the old bottle
cannot contain. The old garment of belief is ripped and you cannot put a new
patch on an old garment. As the world erupts around us, we may wonder what
is taking place and ask ourselves if we have lost control of our children,
as they are so different now.
We can say all kinds of things, justify our actions and beliefs - that is
our right. On occasion I find myself sucked into the same stream and pass an
opinion not based upon the truth that has erupted within me; so I can't
judge another. I can only say; when you see these things, rejoice, for He
has come. His coming brings a new idea, which will disturb the traditions of
men; and - living by man's traditions - you will see the disturbance on the
outside, but it is in you.
In the meanwhile, take what you know of this law, and use it towards your
own personal good fortune in the world of Caesar. It's simple. Go to the end
and assume the feeling of the wish fulfilled. Don't ask anyone to help you.
Ask no one if it is right. If you like it, assume you have it. Remain
faithful to your assumption, and that Being who is going to erupt in you
will take you to that end. If you find yourself moving from your fulfilled
desire, go back to it, and once more assume the feeling of the wish
fulfilled. Do this and your assumption will harden into fact.
THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON
Lecture #118 - Neville 05/06/1969
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Hi Leonard...
Yes, our imagination is The Infinite Light doing its 'thing'!
Imagining a world and/or universe that seem to be 'out there'.
In actuality it only exist in our imagination. I have thought about
this proposition at least a thousand times and I cannot understand it
- let alone explain it. Yet, it is a day to day occurence - a mystery
infinitey greater than my human mind can fathom...
YET... I am the Creator of IT!
This really means that it has nothing to do with Gerardus the Human.
All of us Are The Infinite Light doing its 'thing'.
Humans do not exist!!!
I do feel more and more that the entire universe is an infinite
computer that has "creation and the created" as its programs. Within
which the created are taken for a ride by the acceptance of the
illusion that they live in a world and/or universe that exist outside
of themselves. Not so - all of it happens within the imagination of
The Self We Are... (The joke is on those who think they are humans)
We all create the entire world and universe from scratch right within
our imagination. Like Jesus supposedly said: I am the Truth and the
Reality. Naturally, so are all of us! We Are The Infinit Light
disguised as human beings...
Smart Soul this Jesus - Gerardus
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BTW:
Great little essay by Neville.
Thank You Leonard!!
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