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From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Sat Jan 05 14:58:19 2002
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Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 14:30:10 -0800
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Subject: We are the One Energy...
Gerardus here:
The universe, high and low, is infinite and changes in the same fashion as
the cells in our body change. Our body is not infinite - but in a way it is
- for it produces new bodies, etc etc. Also, we live in new bodies on
purpose, whenever the time comes, in order to have different experiences.
Each body and brain has different possibilities...
The mind living in these bodies does not change much when we change bodies,
and "what" moves from body to body, is what we call our soul. We identify
with this for longer periods than the vehicles we live in. The soul is
"that" what expands in Understanding which is Love. In the long run, our
souls disappears like our bodies do. All bodies and souls are illusions. In
actuality all things are The One Energy - becoming aware of ITself! There
is but one "I" - this identity is the Creator or the One Energy. We are
this "I". Human beings are temporary-sub-personalities of this one "I"...
I do not think there is a Void as the Sages speak of. The Reality of the
Void lives as the Manifestation or as the Created in all densities
and/or dimensions - IT IS the One Energy being ITself. The Void or the
concept of it - is a human invention...
There is nothing else but the One Energy - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:38:01 -0800
To: 4d-special@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [4D-S] Thoughts about Black Holes...
Reply-To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
Hello 4-Ders...
Gerardus here:
Black Holes in actuality are "portals" that transfer State of Minds
(Energy) from one dimension to another. What scientists are able to see and
theorize is based on our present knowledge and imagination. It is but
little. Our thought compared to what really goes on is like the thought of
a tree thinking about the sun. What would a tree understand about the sun?
What do we understand about the sun? And its cycles... Very little...
States of Minds form all things, including worlds like ours. There actually
is no matter. There is only consciousness in certain forms. Some of this we
call matter. We do this because we as bodies are also states of
consciousness - as matter bodies. We are energy fields meeting other
energy fields and "think" that there is something "out there". We are
energy affected by other energies...
We live in an illusionary universe:
In actuality, there is no "out there". ALL is MIND! We are this Mind. So
what's happening any place, takes place in our mind. That's why we are able
to become aware of what we think is going on some place. We become aware
of other aspects of ourselves. The universe in all its dimensions and/or
densities is actually One Energy in different forms and levels of being. We
are IT! We are a Morphogenetic and Holographic Phenomenon...
The human being is like a leave on a tree, the leave is an active part of
the tree and keeps it alive. We keep the universe alive - we are IT! The
leaves of a tree are its faces. They catch energy from the sun that is
later stored inside the tree. We as human beings do the same thing, except
that we store energy in our awareness as States of Mind or Thoughts - which
is the Universal Mind in the first place. There is but one Mind! Thoughts
are Energy. They form States of Mind which forms things - like universes...
or children... or frogs... or Gerardian Stories...
My Black Hole story for now - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:37:00 -0800
To: 4d-special@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [4D-S] The World is a Lie!
Reply-To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
The World is a Lie!
The bankers lie and steal.
The religions lie and collect.
The politicians lie and bribe.
The big conglomerates lie and create wars.
The entire world is based on lies, money and power.
While the masses of the world are victims of their ignorance.
What is a wise and honest man to do?
A wise and honest man has the easiest job of all of them. He does not have
to do anything but watch what's going on. All he does is watch and observe!
A wise and honest man does not try to teach the masses, he does not try to
enlist or fight in wars, he does try to correct the politicians, he does not
try to bring truth to the religions, and he does not invest his money in
stocks and bonds...
All he does is do his job, and keeps his thoughts on his infinite goal. He
has no ego, he has no ambitions and he does not need friends. He is his own
friend, and all he does is observe and be! Be his authentic self seeing the
world pass on by. He is mindful of each passing day. He knows that the true
values of Life are not represented by the values of the world. He knows that
the world is a glittering show of nonsense - where the bigger the lie, the
more it needs to be repeated...
In Bliss and Smiles - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:25:49 -0800
To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [4D-S] What is REAL?
Someone asks what it REAL?
My Answer:
Nothing is real! But YOU. The One You Are...
All things are virtual, or some kind of energy that we could call
"consciousness" - it is an energy that is capable of appearing in an
unlimited amount of forms. Some are animated some are not. Naturally all
forms are alive anyway for they all consist of tiny moving energy "aspects".
Our scientists call them atoms or other names. These aspects are not what
they are named!
I call them "aspects" for they are "aspects" of the Whole, of the Infinity
of Energy, Mind, or Consciousness. There are no parts or portions of this
Energy. It is One Thing or One Phenomenon. It is able to seemingly divide
itself and the seemingly divided aspects are able to confuse other seemingly
divided aspects. Funny universe indeed!
So what is real?
The only thing real is the IAM - the Observer! All the rest is magic. The
IAM or the One that lives in all things, is capable of being itself, by
means of, and in spite of all things. It is all things and lives as all
things or beings. It is the Saint and the Sinner. It is ONE ENERGY, from
which we as human beings are temporarily seemingly isolated. We do this to
ourselves, in order to play this Game of Separation we call the Matter
Universe and all that is in it. The matter universe is but a small aspect of
the Whole!
The matter or physical universe is an illusion. It is the One Energy in
certain forms and it poses as whatever you think you see, and/or think you
are as a human being. In actuality you are the IAM or the ONE. Temporarily
we have separated from our Whole Self and play this game of separation.
Being "cut-off" from our Wholeness is a pretty weird situation for literally
we "lose-it" and become next to Mad or Crazy - we start killing each other.
It really means that we are killing ourselves. There is No Other...
We do all this, because we have bought into the illusion of matter and think
it as real. We think that we as human beings are real as well - not so. We
are dreaming holographic figments of the Infinite Dreamer - the ONE. We are
temporary dreams thinking that we are real! The whole of Life, in all planes
of being - is a Dream! Nothing more, nothing less. There naturally are
dreams within dreams within dreams ad infinitum. Can it be explained?
Possibly - but it might be a lot easier to see through it the easy way by
going within. Not that this will solve anything for most come back out. The
best thing to do is - is to enjoy it as much as possible, just the way it
is. The dream will change and/or pass...
At the moment in this time-period, we are further removed from our Wholeness
than in times past. (Say 500.000 years ago) We as human beings, go through
stages of separation and connecting again, again and again. We do this until
we become bored with it and then possibly conjoin with the Big One. However,
I see no need for it, once a certain state of Mind or Bliss has been
reached. Life then becomes enjoyable to the limit, Even in the physical -
yes. All it takes is awareness and more awareness, and then more awareness
yet! There is lots to go around for it is unlimited in scope and it is up
to each "Individual Aspect of The Whole" to come and get it...
About the Outer and Inner. There really is neither Inner nor Outer, except
in the illusionary mode/state in which we live. There is the One, which in
its dreams appears to itself, as if there is an Inner and an Outer. Not so!
We are the One or the Universe - completely! In our present mode or state of
mind it only seems that there is an Inner and an Outer. We created this mode
on purpose in order to get lost in it. We succeeded! In this mode we create
on the (so called) Outside, that what we are on the (so called) Inside.
Creation is an Expression of the One, that seemingly lives within. In the
mean time, it *IS* all One Thing for the One is All and All is the One!
We are and live in the Universe. It is our Home and our Work. There is no
other Home or Work around anywhere. We are always HOME - wherever we go...
Life is a Celebration of the Creator living as the Created - Gerardus
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Gerardus here:
I have worked on this for a while, and one needs to use a fixed font like
Courier New, or similar, in order to observe this properly. The horizontal
distance between lines A and B indicates the measure of awareness enjoyed
by the beings residing upon the indicated densities from 1 to 7. The Top
Level enjoys unlimited awareness. That's where we're all going eventually.
However, do not hold your breath for this could be a while. In the mean
time, I hope you enjoy this picture. It indicates very roughly what the
Progression of Universal Consciousness or Awareness is all about...
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! The area Here is where The Infinite Universal Mind dreams Creation !
Naturally it cannot be depicted by lines, but for now I did anyway.
This is the level of pure Consciousness, or the
Level of the Unlimited Dreamer in Bliss.
This is where The Infinite Light or God
and its many co-joined Buddies reside.
(The Almighty Ohmers)
The God-Level Density #7
!
-------------------\ - - - - - - - - /------------------
Co-Creators \ /
and Masters A B Density #6
----------------------\-- -- -- - - -- -- --/---------------------
Heaven or Plane \ /
of Contemplation \ / Density #5
-------------------------\--- --- - --- - --- ----/------------------------
Helpers, Guides, \ /
Lizzies-Greys (Astral) A B Density #4
----------------------------\--- ---- ---- ---/---------------------------
\ /
Human Beings \ / Density #3
-------------------------------\----- ------/------------------------------
\ /
Plants and Animals A B Density #2
----------------------------------\------/---------------------------------
\ /
Molecule, Atoms, and Smaller \ / Density #1
-------------------------------------\/-------------------------------------
(Thebottomofthislevelisdirectlyconnectedtotheopentopandthewholethingcycles)
Gerardus here gain:
As you can see, the dotted lines between lines A and B become more and more
"open" towards the Top. This indicates that we are becoming more and more
consciously aware of The Infinite Light We Are...
It is also possible that there are 12 or 15 Densities and/or Dimensions. I do
not know. It depends on what teachings one studies and/or how one splits up
something that is One Phenomenon. Dividing the Whole in partitions is a human
thing naturally...
See you at the Top - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 10:02:17 -0800
To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [4D-S] Big Bangs are Head Things...
Reply-To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
The universe, high and low, is not some kind of phenomenon that can be
understood by Mankind in its present form. How does he dare to say when it
began and will end - to speak as such is only proof of his ignorance...
The Universe, or Life, therefore was never the witness of its own Big Bang!
The only Big Bang that ever takes place is the Big Bang in people's head
when they understand who or what they are! We are, all things are, the very
universe or creator in whatever form we find ourselves. All things are
Self-Expressions of the Universe or the Creator. So who or what are we? We
are the Creator in human form - learning about ourselves upon a planet
called earth for now...
Slowly but surely we grow in awareness, and more awareness, to eventually
awaken to the Self We Are - In All Our Glory. How long will this take?
Only as long as we are dreaming. For Creation and therefore all the Created
ARE the Creator's Dream. Since we are this Creator - it is our Dream we
must awaken from. We do this by living lives as human beings at the moment,
again and again - until we stop dreaming and calculating when and where the
Universe began. What a ridiculous idea. God IS Creation...
Infinitely busy - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:38:49 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Why is Gerardus here?
Excellent Question and one of my silent ones!
Yes, there is no solution in the teachings of Osho, Michael, Paul Brunton,
Adi Da, Muktananda, Sri Aurobindo, Buddha, Baba Neem Karoli, Ram Dass, Allan
Watts, Gary Zukav, Deepak Chopra, Mister Zen, and any and all other masters
or semi-masters, including the kling-ons like Gerardus and/or Pete the
Nepper down the block. The teaching the masters had, was THEIR teaching and
it was good for them. WE have to find our own. Also, at moments of great
enlightenment under stress - I feel that no teaching is of any value
whatsoever, for all of them are but stories. My Motto is: WE ARE the Truth
and the Reality and all the rest is Magic. So why bother?
In the mean time, my ideas or thoughts about what Percival has written has
not changed that much. As a matter of fact, he might have given us the right
teaching and answers. Question is - are we ready to contemplate his words?
I thought about this a long time, a long while ago, and decided that "for
now" it was more important, and to the best of all, for me, to continue with
what I was doing. Learn while I share by means of my Internet Pages and
Lists of any kind and people considering them...
All this means, that I considered it more important to share my energies, in
whatever small way possible, with those searching and looking for the
ordinary answer to: "why am I here" and "what I am supposed to do about it?"
Yes, Percival has his answers, but they were not on the internet at that
time and on top of that - most people are not ready to take his answers for
real. His writing style and expressions are too far estranged from the
average human mind and it might take a while before many reach his style of
teaching, if they ever do including me...
So, one could say that I decided on my own Life and Destiny, by sharing
whatever Energies and Knowledge is available to me, instead of becoming a
full time student of Percival. Does he have the right answers? I do not
know, for one needs to follow his teachings in order to prove the answer to
oneself. I felt that I was not of that level and MOST importantly - again, I
say MOST importantly - I did not come down here to work on myself (I do not
think that work per se is necessary). I came to help and share whatever
values I might have with as many as possible. Up to now - the Gods are
smiling. In the end it does not make one iota of difference anyway...
And what about you John? - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:06:20 -0800
To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [4D-S] Evolution?
Gerardus here:
Since we are living in time, I look at Life in time.
Any other way of looking at it from my timely viewpoint
is not my choice on this one - at this time.
So: Enlightenment, at whatever stage or state of mind, is the result of an
evolutionary process which eventually produces a human body and a human
mind that is able to become more and more enlightened. This is a process
in time and therefore in human terms expressed as Evolution of which
awakening is a characteristic...
Words and more words - Gerardus
Fiona here:
This is an interesting discussion, because the way I see it is that although
we may appear to evolve thru the passage of one lifetime, while we are doing
one lifetime we are also doing all of our other lifetimes. The lifetimes
where we are raping and pillaging and being "bad" and not moving towards the
illusion of enlightenment are still just as valuable as the ones where we
have gone all "spiritual".
Gerardus here:
Exactly! It's all about Experiences like you say Fiona. Life, from the
human side (or the way I/we on 4D look at it now) could be considered a
scenery of experiences that make us wiser. This wisdom gives us an edge in
order to promote ourselves to another dream-level. Say 4D.
In the mean time, all of us are "Individual Focuses in different times and
or Incarnations" of the One Eye and we all gain our own slate of experiences
and aspects of wisdom. Eventually we all put this together and we step up
into the shoes of an Amalgamated Soul, like the ones who are guiding us now
for example (Let's call them Souls/Oversouls/Guardians or what have you).
IOW: there is a learning progression in time and in the level of awareness
that is eventually reached by us. We could call this evolution...
>From the top level of TIL (The Infinite Light) however, there is no such
thing as Evolution! From that level it could be call Involution or an
Involvement with other realms. TIL involves itself with the Whole of
Creation. It IS Creation! Personally I feel that TIL is the Infinite
Dreamer and is NOT aware of its Dreams. It becomes aware of its Dreams from
within its Dreamers - the Created - Guys and Dolls like us...
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Fiona here:
All these experiences are of equal importance.
So therefore I do not agree with the evolution theory or the moving toward
enlightenment theory. We are IT at any given moment. We are not "moving
towards" anything other than different states of being and experience. So
we could be "enlightened" in this lifetime yet be doing dozens of other
lifetimes where we are not - even we we think we are not evolving is
probably when we are evolving the most.
Gerardus here:
Yes, very good! All in all, TIL, or Life, is a Dream that becomes "actual"
(or acted out) in other dimensions, densities and/or realities. And we as
aspects of the Dreamer, are experiencing these Dreams as actual and real
happenings ---> because we live in suits that give us these actual or real
interpretations (The body makes illusions real). The body therefore is a
might-machine that functions as a lens or focus FOR ourselves as well as FOR
those capable of "seeing and experiencing" these happening by means of us...
No doubt these Beings would have to be of a higher dimension or density OR
Awareness. IOW: they live our lives from a different level simultaneous and
in concert with us, who experience these lives one at a time. So, we as
individual Souls are growing and evolving, while other but higher Souls or
Oversouls are ALSO growing and evolving through us.
We are their
instruments and or tools, experiencing a reality they could not possibly
reach or touch without instruments or tools - the bodies we live in. We
could say that the Human Bodily Being is nothing but a necessity for Souls
and Others to experience physical reality...
Therefore, we need to be aware that we do not begin to think or feel, that
we as a Body really have much to say about what needs to be experienced next
and how. All we can do is - stay out of the way and Be The Observer to what
happens out there and to the body, which we are not in the first place. Only
when we feel that we are a Soul in a Body can we begin to make choices that
benefits all. What these choices are depends on individual viewpoints...
Looking at it from the very Top now, and as the Entire Action of Creation -
there is only Change! No Evolution or involution. Only energy exchanges
between Beings we have called Human Beings, Souls, Greys, Dracos,
Archangels, Devils, Spooks and whatever other names we came up with...
Does this make sense? - Gerardus
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Sun Feb 17 11:45:27 2002
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:46:40 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The world is a Lie
At 08:24 AM 2/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
About this "already know" - I do not completely agree! They do not
consciously Know - but will when they are ready. (Gerardus)
Not conciously, perhaps. They push it away into their subconcious. You
are right: they will look when they are ready and desire to look, when
they lose their fear. I can hardly see how people are happy with the
lives they live and the state of the Earth right now but, who knows?:
maybe things are the way they are supposed to be on Earth right now? If
you really think about it, how could it be otherwise?
Hi Nicole - Gerardus here:
No it could not be otherwise. The masses create by default! This means the
Governments of the Countries in the world - AND mostly the Secret Government
of the World create "happenings" for the masses. Like war, misery and
suffering. The masses are talked into it by being told to be Patriotic and
defend the Fatherland. Fight Communism. Fight Terrorists. Well, the
biggest terrorists is the USA itself.
They are the Bad Guys! They Lie!
War and suffering and weather changes are created because the Neiw Worrld
Orrder People figure that there too many people on earth right now. They
consider the masses of mankind next to animal. In many ways, we cannot blame
the Rulers because the most ignorant people have the most children. Not
until "education" comes through for the masses will this change. In the mean
time it will be like this forever.
The entire way the world is run right
now is by Totalitarian Power - yes, even in a so called Democracy called the
USA. Things are what they are, because they reflect the intelligence of
mankind collectively. It's not very high. The point is - it is extremely
difficult to raise 7 billion people/Souls to higher levels of intelligence
and intuition. This takes ages and ages and ages! In the mean time, all of
it is only an experience! THAT is what we as Souls come down here for...
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Gerardus here:
>>>Seriousness and Ambition are the two biggest enemies of mankind.
>>>They are deadly (Gerardus)
Nicole here:
>I was just reading a book by Krishnamurti that mentioned ambition is a
>bad thing. I am not understanding how this could be. Does it mean that
>when you set your mind to doing one thing, you may begin to ignore the
>other "messages" life is sending you and so you are closing your mind by
>focusing on one thing? Will you give me your opinion on the matter,
>explain this a bit, please?
Gerardus here:
Yes, you got that about right. There has to be a balance. I will try to
explain. Seriousness and Ambition combined make a person a rather reckless
nuisance and danger to many others who do not have the same opinions. Let's
take the RC Church at the time of the Inquisition. They killed people
because they would not belief in Jesus and the rest of the nonsense. They
were serious about their beliefs and ambitious about killing those who did
not agree. I guess we can also see this in the USA Government of the last
50 years. They dropped bombs all over the world and were trying to install
their puppet-masters in these so called Countries they were democratizing.
Point is, Democracy has never been tried yet! The world is run by money -
not votes. People are brainwashed by commercials and lies and then they go
out and vote. Is that a free choice? All this because these rulers take
themselves serious and have ambition. The same goes for the world of
business. They are serious about the bottom line and ambitious in merging
with other companies so that they get a monopoly to change their bottom
lines to more profit...
The world is a Lie! - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:58:55 -0800
To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [4D-S] Part 2 - After death communication??
John here:
If you read Ouspensky/Gurdjieff you may even wonder
if many humans have an actual astral body! We should not assume that all
humans have one, that was a revelation for me, when I read that. I mean,
why should everyone develop and Astral body? It could well be that only
the most conscious are developing one....
Gerardus here:
The most conscious ones have the most of everything I feel John. They have,
or own, their Signature engraved in Energy. This Energy was once
Unconsciousness or Unconscious Energy. In other words: we carve our own
Soul out of Unconscious Universal Energy. We MAKE something of ourselves
so to speak. We create Soul or Beingness! We create Awareness. Aware
Energy or Soul Beingness!
That what we have made of ourselves re-incarnates and carves even more. A
Soul or an Universal Unit is a self-made thing! All we got when we started
was an empty spook so to speak...
John here:
And by the way, what is the true function of the chakras? Could it be to
control
us? Rather than the standard New Age drivel.
Gerardus here:
I do not know what the standard New Age drivel is. This is what I
think/feel ---- The Chakras are the Interconnecting Energy Transducers by
which our True Self connects and controls us - indeed! It makes us
seemingly real in a 3D Environment. We must look at human beings are Three
Dimensional Projections by means of the Chakras. The Chakras aspects of
the True Self's Reflection in Matter The more they are connected the more
one shines. These projections are not really Three Dimensional in the
first place, for THAT is the very illusionary environment in which we think
we live. There is no Three Dimensional Reality! There is no Objective
Reality! Some scientists also have denied its existence. There is none!
But if you look at a specific Energy Environment - it seems 3D. The Lens we
look through (the body) fools us. It's all one infinite Cloud of Energy -
doing its thing. The entire physical Creation is a Fake. THAT - I say THAT
in and by itself, is an enormous accomplishment and calls for an outrageous
Celebration!!! Do you get this???
John here:
And.....do we really reincarnate? Why should we all reincarnate? If we have
not developed sufficiently (the other vehicles) what WOULD incarnate? Hm?
Why....nothing. Just ponder.
Gerardus here:
The Spook Energy we are - the empty slate - reincarnate until it is full!
It fills up by experiences, by becoming aware! Bursting Full means one
knows that the body does not really exist for there is no 3D - or anything
like it! It only exist when you put on a lens called body...
Living in Energy that looks like a Body - Gerardus
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From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Tue Feb 19 17:05:37 2002
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:06:58 -0800
From: Gerardus
Subject: [4D-S] It's all New Age Drivel...
To all 4-Ders...
The other day, we were speaking about New Age Drivel (NAD). While I was
thinking this over - I got the following ideas:
The world and its say 7 Billion People, is an enormous amount of human-energy
and cosmic-energy "invested" by those who run this world. They have the
responsibility to raise these 7 Billion People/Souls to higher levels of
awareness. This means that now and then (every two thousands years or so)
new religions and new concepts need to be introduced to the 7 Billion in
order to bring them along!At this particular period and change of the
"belief systems" for this world and mankind, the existing religions will die.
They have become redundant.
They will be replaced by belief-systems of a different nature and
understanding. The concept to be introduced will be the concept of
"Self-Responsibility". The Law of One. The concepts discussed in the
Ra-Material and others Teachings for example! IOW: Ra is IN - Jesus is OUT!
In the mean time, an enormous amount of NAD is necessary to change the
thinking of mankind - world wide. It means that 99% of what we read and meet
is NAD. This is fine! This is the way it is planned! It has to be this way!
The odd one of us, thinking about "ascension" or "awakening" or
"enlightenment" naturally is fed up with this NADDY stuff. That is just the
way it is!
Life is a do it yourself thing. This truly means that others do
not have OUR solutions and/or answers for our questions. NADDY stuff helps
only so far and that is where the "Soul Hits The Matter World" and knows for
sure it is lost. Not to be concerned - that also will be changed in the
future. There will be more teachers and more clear answers...
In the mean time - just hang on and smile...
- Gerardus
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Subject: [4D-S] Rascals versus Masters ... was Masters
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A a Rascal you are free - Gerardus
Fiona here:
The rascal is the best master of them all. Trouble is 'real people'
recognise the rascal as trouble and totally dismiss him/her. But that is OK too.
Gerardus here:
Hmmm?
I think real people know a Rascal when they see one.
Others assume that he is a trouble maker...
God is the Genuine Master of Rascality.
All any other Rascal can do is imitate God.
It must be done however without trying or thinking.
This means that one needs to become absolutely natural about it.
This is extremely difficult since we are virtual realities by nature living
in bodies by habit, and are inhabited by an internal dialog-repeater that
makes us think useless thoughts, which were recorded upon our DNA strands by
the Lizzies. It means, we think even when we think we do not think...
The repeater within knows this and therefore denies us our own rascality
automatically without our approval. Trouble is - that even with our approval
- we would have no access to our own rascality because approval takes
thinking. The Lizzies knew what they were doing all along. The only Rascal
who still has any resemblance of Rascality is the one Rascal who fell
through the cracks of the Lizzies' virtual reality factory of which there
are many without cracks. This determines without any doubt whatsoever that
a random Rascal in full flight is a genuine rarity in the ultimate sense of
scarceness. It might even mean that one might meet a Rascal even more seldom
than a genuine Master, visible, invisible, declared or undeclared.
GO figure...
Resolute resilient and responsive Rascal resting its rascality in Gerardus
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From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Thu Feb 28 19:40:38 2002
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:42:24 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
Subject: Shadows Playing Games...
Gerardus here:
Trying to explain your reasoning with your mind is something different than
others comprehending an explanation coming from your reasoning. I cannot
explain it any further, except to say that we live in a dream reality or
illusion. This basically means that "anything" goes. Reasoning or no
reasoning! Possibly the more one reasons, the more one fools oneself...
Actually, I do not think it possible to grok the heart of the matter of
matter by means of refined hamburger called brains. It's all an illusion
that more or less is "meeting" other illusionary conditions and then says -
I grok, because I am Aware Energy meeting other Energy, that in essence is
me anyway. It's kind of meeting one's shadow in an illusion and then say,
where do you come from? In the mean time, it's kind of fun to dream and
think we know something. Not so really - or do we?
In the illusion I spoke of, we meet others that in actuality are ourselves
once removed. We play games with words and eventually we see as well as
understand that the Consciousness we all are, "facilitates" to form shadows
of itself that seem to be alive and aware of each other, each to its own
measure. These shadows play games...
As soon as they become more deeply involved in the actuality of themselves,
they understand that all shadows are really the Consciousness that
facilitates the play. When they eventually become aware as the Facilitating
Consciousness - they experience themselves as all others playing shadows
and games...
Means we are the Light casting shadows - Gerardus
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From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Sun Mar 10 09:20:04 2002
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:22:08 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
Subject: Where is your Consciousness??
Fiona here:
Once upon a time I would have swallowed all of the above, but now I feel
differently. For me it is just another story. We are already living in
4D, 5D, 6D and every other D. But the above still makes for interesting
reading none-the-less.
Gerardus here:
Agreed! But what you say is a paradoxical metaphysical statement that does
not count where the rubber hit the road. We are only consciously present
where our awareness is functioning! We are where our consciousness is!
Which for me is not in 5D 6D 7D or higher. I am still aware of the
billions of people living in a physical trap called the Lower Worlds of
Physicality - namely planet Earth as it is called by us. My Soul or Higher
Awareness - yes - it might be all over the place. I am connected to it -
but it is beyond my personal grokker. It is not where I am presently aware.
I do not say that I want to be aware there either. I am saying that I am
here, because this is the happening I came to experience. It means
experiencing "stories" of any and all kinds...
Where is YOUR Consciousness? Are you AWARE of what's happening on these
higher planes of being? Are you AWARE of how many Soul-Aspects you as a
Soul have going all over the Universe? Are you aware of how many lifetimes
you have lived? On what kinds of worlds where they? Are you aware of how
many of your forms are male or female? Are you aware on how many planets,
3D, 4D, or any D, your aspects are calling your Soul HOME?
And yes, all words are but other stories, so what? Knowing that this is so,
does not make us aware of the Highest Level. Yes, we are there, but only in
an unconscious manner! It is not where our (my) conscious consciousness is.
For me it's right on Earth, in Oliver, B.C. Canada...
Where is YOUR Consciousness Fiona? - Gerardus
Fiona here:
My consciousness is everywhere else - as well as being here. When I am
focused totally here I am totally here, but I can drift in and out all over
the place. I can drive to work for instance and not remember a thing about
it - my subconscious drove me there - my conscious mind was elsewhere. Same
thing when I am at work typing all day - my body is doing the transcribing
and I can be out anywhere seeing other things and experiencing different
places.
Gerardus here:
I do not disagree with what you say. I do the same thing. I am the greatest
dreamer known in Oliver so to speak. I walk to the kitchen but I am still
thinking/dreaming of what I wrote two seconds ago. I have to be slapped
around the ears to wake up. My mind lingers! I take my cup to have a drink
and before I know what's going on, I have taken it out of one cupboard and
put it back into another and walk away thirsty.
Later on, I take my cup to the bedroom so to speak.
I am absentminded! My mind is not on what I am
doing or where my body is.
I daydream lots. IOW: I am all over. I experience something by means
of my thoughts, but I am not there consciously!
In addition, I just about live unconsciously in the place where my body
really is. This to me, is not what I mean by "being all over the place and
being conscious of it" so that I can tell what I experienced. I drift -
but whatever I drift to and experience are only my own thoughts. Same with
dreams. Yes, I dream - but I cannot translate them into brain expressions.
THAT to me is NOT being or living consciously all over the place...
You say: "We are already living in 4D, 5D, 6D and every other D."
I say big deal. Consciously it means absolutely nothing to me. I know that
what I really am is the Universal Consciousness and "I" AM present
infinitely all over. Again - Big Deal!
I am there, but I, personally, am totally unconscious of that fact.
What I want to do is - go anywhere
consciously, come back and say: Fiona is eating an apple in New Zealand and
she had to cut out a big piece because it was rotten. She has 12 pits in it
too! I want to bring back, to my own arm-chair, the "knowing" of what you
or anyone else in the universe did - the moment I was there. THAT is
consciously being present to me. Daydreams do not count. Matter of fact,
daydreams are fine, but in a way, they do not make me live consciously
where I am in my body in the first place. My mind wanders and it does not
accomplish a darn thing...
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Fiona here:
This is not like physically being in these other places, it is
being there consciously. You could call it day dreaming, but day dreaming
is also a viable conscious reality.
Gerardus here:
Aha! Now we got it. You say you go other places but you are not there
physically. Fine! - I grok that! Then you say: that you are there
consciously. Well, your "consciously" does not have the same meaning as my
"consciously". Your "consciously" to me is some kind of visualization or
absentmindedness and when I return to my body I have experienced my own
thoughts. It means that I had thoughts, or was thinking, of something,
unrelated to what I was doing. Like driving my car or typing a report AND
think about something else. Fine!
What you experience is a division of consciousness or awareness. I do not
think that you consciously went some place, and were aware of where you
went, and of what you experienced. Did you have a conversation with
someone? What did you discuss? Did you get answers from the other person?
Or was your daydream a self-generated and self-contained thought-monologue?
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Fiona here:
My brain can only translate so much of
what is going on in other realms because it is not possible to download much
outside of accepted physical reality thru the brain.
Gerardus here:
Well, many say that this is possible, but I cannot do it.
Some call this Farseeing!
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Fiona here:
But I do visit some
extraordinary places at night and I do interact with my other selves
constantly in my near sleep and sleep state. But I have talked about all of
this multiple times before and don't want to keep repeating the same stuff
over and over for those who have read it all umpteen times before.
Gerardus here:
Yes, you have talked about it many times. You have spoken that you "saw"
everybody else as you! That is great. I grok. I know it as such, but I do
not experience this in an emotional or feeling sense...
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Fiona here:
I can only give you my perspective on the way I see my own reality, and it
does exist side by side all other realities. I do not have a home planet
because a planet is merely something we incarnate upon for said life times.
There are probably many other planets that I have life experience upon, but
none of them are home planet. Home is 'self' not physical locality.
Gerardus here:
I agree with you on the statement about your side by side realities and
that we do not have a Home Planet. Indeed - Home is Self. That says it
pretty wonderful!
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Fiona here:
I do not dispute the 'story' thing as a non event. It is the whole event.
The whole of our experience in these realms is a story. We create the whole
story. Whatever we collectively decide upon as a fixed reality will be just
that. There are many many other stories within the main story. The webs of
illusion. So my body is here in New Zealand, my body consciousness is also
here with my body in New Zealand, but 'my consciousness' the 'who I really
am' is universal. But it is not out there - it is inside me.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I grok. For the last sentence one could say: my consciousness, the
universal one, contains all bodies and all things. While the body I am
consciously aware in, at this very moment, is my Fiona Focus, and it is an
illusionary reality within the Universal Consciousness I AM...
Consciously here and nowhere else - Gerardus
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From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Mon Mar 11 20:52:47 2002
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 20:54:56 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
Subject: In Simple Words...
Gerardus here:
Are you ready for a tour through your Mind?
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We all know how cable TV works. We plug a solid wire into the tuner's input
and because this solid wire is electrically charged by 500 different
frequency bands and different signals on each band, we receive 500 different
channels on our TV. White noise is free! Would you believe that the
Universal Mind contains billions of channels? Sure it does! Each channel
is a different reality...
Please continue:
The universe, high and low, or the cosmic mind contains an unlimited amount
of energy that is divided into specific frequency bands and each band has
its own signals. So, there are billions and billions of frequency bands and
each band has its own specific pattern called reality. One of these
frequency bands produces the reality we experience, and other frequency
bands produce realities other beings experience. So what happens, when we
"think-away" Time and Space and arrive in a timeless environment?
Well, all possible or potential realities are present for all frequency
bands vibrate simultaneously, and all bands or realities are "present" in
the one cosmic mind. All realities hang around just for the picking.
Naturally you have to have the right equipment to enjoy them all. We do the
same on our TV. Usually we select our channels and watch one at the time.
Buy 500 TVs and you can watch them all. What a bore!
The universal energy we are looking at in the cosmic mind, or are
experiencing when we look at our body or out the window, are certain atoms,
molecules and/or cells that have temporarily assumed a certain frequency
pattern and this pattern makes them what they are - objects and sceneries of
a certain kind. These atoms and cells depict to us what we think we see or
experience. The body we live in, is a lens and it interprets the energy "out
there", into a physical reality system, that soon becomes familiar objects
and scenery. This "out there" I mentioned, is our own mind naturally and we
live within this energy-sphere with the body that has own name, but is not
us! Our cosmic mind is all around us. We live within it...
Atoms or molecules are consciousness-units (con-units from now on in) that
have certain vibrations. Since there are billions and billions of realities
out there, it follows that there are billions and billions of con-units that
are in phase, with the realities in which they are created. They hold this
pattern until it automatically fades away, because of a lack of support by
the thought-energies that created them. All these realities are
intermingled and/or reverberate all throughout our cosmic mind. They are
available to each and everyone able to receive them. Reception depends on
our awareness level. The realities are universal!
So what is happening? Certain con-units have certain phase-angles and form
a certain reality. Other con-units with different phase angles form other
realities. These different phase-angle con-units exist right besides each
other and are indifferent to each other. Now, the trick to receive certain
con-units as a reality, depends on the frequency level we have attained. The
higher our vibration, the greater our awareness - or the more realities we
are able to become aware of. Our cosmic mind is an infinite con-hive of
activity, because billions and billions of frequencies form the different
reality-bands and their signals. These signals are either thoughts or
manifested thoughts...
The universe or the cosmic mind is so full of energies, of all kind and
patterns, that it is literally a solid thing or phenomenon. If we could drop
an anvil on it - it would ring! When we look at it however, we only see or
experience the con-units that are in phase with the awareness level we enjoy
or endure. So, when most of us look into Space - it seems empty. However it
is not empty. It is burdens full of con-units! The Soul We Are and its
individual projections (or incarnations) live within this cosmic mind, and
we are able to become aware of what goes on in certain levels or aspects of
this mind. Each incarnation experiences a different reality!
What each
personality become aware of, is in direct relation to the awareness attained
by that person. The patterns or realities we create by means of our
thoughts, form energy-vibrations, that do not leave this mind, but vibrate
within all levels of it. As a matter of fact, it forms our cosmic mind.
These vibrations or realities can be seen or experienced by anyone who is
able to attain the awareness level of these energy-vibrations...
Since all con-units are holograms or holographic, it means that each
con-unit contains what all other units contain. This also means that there
is an instant communication between all units. In the mean time, there is no
Main-Consciousness-Unit or God insight within this cosmic mind. We, as
universal beings, are the creators and/or gods that live within this mind
and create whatever we desire. So, all the inhabitants of the universe live
in their own cosmic mind and create. They create their own environment, and
if they are not capable of doing this, other beings will do this for them.
It naturally means that the non-creators or followers are controlled or
kept...
The cosmic mind is like the Internet - which is an unlimited amount of
computer units inter-connected and they make up the Internet. Also, the
universal mind never gets any bigger or smaller, it only attains more and
more different vibrations. They form the frequency bands that are known to
us as 1D 2D 3D 4D 5D etc. It is most likely therefore, that once in a
blue cosmic moon, additional frequency bands are added. Like dimension or
density 12 13 14 or 15, or whatever might be necessary to facilitate more
vibrational bands or levels of creation...
Naturally, the universal mind does not take up any space, for it is not a 3D
phenomenon (except as an illusionary manifestation we call the physical
universe). The physical universe is a specific virtual reality that has no
existence on its own. It is a creation of the higher levels of the cosmic
mind and it also exists within the cosmic mind. No thing is outside of it...
In order to create one needs to be aware! If we are not aware, our creation
back-fires on us. That is the time we begin to look for scape goats that
might have brought about the situations we encounter. IOW: we look to blame
others. Naturally, it is all our own doing and the fact that this is so,
teaches us the lessons how to create properly! It also means that we can
make of our creation what we desire...
Our task is to become Conscious Creators.
This is why we live on Earth - it is a school for creators. In the
mean time, the earth is an aspect of a specific virtual reality system that
completely fools us. We are seemingly subjected to Time and Space. In
actuality we are beyond this continuum, but in order to experience this
reality we created it and began to live in it. Living there means that we
become lost in this reality. However, sooner or later we will find our way
out. The physical universe is like a self-created maze. The exit is found by
educating ourselves. Knowledge is the clue and awakening is the goal...
One last surprise coming up.
The universe or our cosmic mind is an infinite Sphere of Energy that
virtually is as heavy and solid as a rock. It is very dense so to speak. It
contains an infinite amount of different spaceless and timeless con-units,
which are phase-angle related according to the realities they hold. Now,
think about the following - our universe in actuality is a Dream - Our
Dream! Dreaming itself into existence by means of the thoughts which create
it. Not thinking or creating means - that you just sit there spinning your
wheels in a sand box in which you are lost...
It's all very simple - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002
From gerardus@otvcablelan.net
To: several List I was on.
Subject: It would have made me a Liar!
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The Master and his disciples were sitting around the fire
and some of the students became really daring in asking question.
So one of them said:
Master are you equal to God?
The Master smiled and said:
We all are equal Benderson, all of us are God!
To which Benderson said:
Well, if we are all God and equal Master,
why do we call you Master and you call us by our names!
To which the Master said:
That is exactly what I have not figured out yet Benderson. You see, I was
just an ordinary person, knowing that I did not know anything, and said so!
All of a sudden people began to call me Master. At that time, I could
not possibly reverse my position of not knowing anything, by letting you
know that I was NOT a Master. It would have made me a liar!
Aha! -- Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 09:59:00 -0800
To: matrioshka@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [matrioshka] Re: Escalation Department
Reply-To: matrioshka@yahoogroups.com
Michael here:
Agreed, but complexity enters the picture only with the "how" of a
thing; desiring to go in this direction or that direction is a
simple thing. It may take a great cook and a whole lot of
complexity to make a great soup, but anybody can decide if the soup
tastes good. So can anybody explain to me the origin of desire?
Maybe conceptualizing desire is its own creation. But this is just
an academic exercise because we know it's already been done.
And as far as "consensus realities are going the way of the eight-
track"...yup. Fractures all over the place.
Gerardus here:
Possibly the origin of desire is the origin of the Universe or Life. It is
still "working" on the fulfillment of this desire. Trying to explain it can
only be done when we have awoken to infinity. We will never reach it in
human form. Then, I feel that desire is an infinite "thingy" and we will
never be without it in human form. If one satisfies it - it means you're
dead. Within this infinite scheme, we call the Universe or Life, we find
new beginnings and ends - from Human Bodies to Galaxies. Which in actuality
are but locale changes. I think/feel that the original desire was to Be. To
Be All That Is Possible. Trying to explain the origin of desire is a human
thing - possibly a human weakness caused by limitations...
Being serves Joy - Gerardus
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Date: 21 Mar 2002 21:49:54 -0000
From science-l-error@spiritweb.org Thu Mar 21 13:46:05 2002
From: Gerardus
Subject: [science-l] Re: "Ego, Archetype & Self"
Hi Ronald,
May I offer you another perspective on the relations between the
personality, ego and soul?
In the 'Sananda Teaches Ascension' classes, organized by Ashtar's Trinity
(http://www.exode.net/trinity) the ego subject is discussed in class # 6
(Ego - The Two-Edged Sword) and # 7 (A New Parable: The Ego and the
Personality). These lessons are published. Using other information as well I
have the following understanding of this question.
Hello Hanz and All - Gerardus here:
Please permit me to intersperse and expand upon your post with some of my
wordy ideas. So let's see what comes out and then we go from there. First
of all - what you say Hanz I agree with in general except for some minor
additions and semantics maybe...
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In God's desire to experience Him/Her-Self, He/She split-up in myriad
manifestations and thus created All That Is (the Creation). His/Her
individualization in human beings has a vertical component (the pillar of
Light) and a horizontal component (the crossbeam of matter), both forming
the Maltese Cross (the cross of Spirit anchored into matter). The pillar of
Light consists of (in descending order): The I AM Presence (the Divine Self)
- the Christ Self - the Divine Flame within the soul (anchored into matter).
The soul is seperated from the personality (the Lower Self) by a veil, which
we call ego.
Gerardus here:
God desire to experience its Creation is not something that happened in the
past and continued till we came along. Also, God's desire is not something
that will ever be satisfied. It is a continuous happening - Creation! So,
Creation is a timeless or infinite Happening and it more or less comes down
to Change - Only Change. Change or Evolution. IOW: there is no beginning
nor end to Creation as such, or to God for that matter - for God IS
Creation. The Creator IS Creation. They are not two things. IT are One
Thing - One Experience - One Happening on a multi-dimensional level...
Within this One Experience we find the Lower Worlds upon which we as
Mankind find ourselves. In the mean time, because of our seemingly
independent and separate existence within Creation - we find ourselves more
or less lost, this depend however upon our level of awareness. Meaning,
some of us are more lost than others. Our strangeness or lostness depends
upon our knowledge of who or what we really are. We are God as Man so to
speak - but so few of us know this...
Many think that God or the Creator created everything at one time in our
past and somehow we came about out of the union of parents. All this is
only so for the body we live in, within the illusionary states of mind, we
call physicality or lives we think we live. WE as Soul or God have always
existed! In the mean time, all of our lives as human beings are nothing
but dreams and or States of Awareness. We could also call them States of
Unawareness. In any case, they are mental states, or subjective state,
and/or illusionary...
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All these parts of what we are, are the result of the individualization of
God. The personality can be seen as a kind of steering device in the hands
of the veiled soul to 'drive' the body within the world of matter. Although
the Divine Flame within the soul also is being veiled by the ego with
respect to the Christ Self and the I AM Presence, there still is, under the
circumstances of a thin veil, an optimal mutual connection and communication
and the Divine Oneness within the diversity of Creation can be preserved.
Gerardus here:
Yes, very much so. All is God so to speak, but it seems, that we all are
seemingly separated aspects of TIL - The Infinite Light. We find ourselves
in a matter world in which everything seems to be separated from other
things. It is very perplexing for example, to think that we are all really
but One Energy. It certainly does not look that way! Most people conclude
that they live in a solid matter world. By investigating this - we find
that matter is 99.999% empty! Now what? How come it is solid to us?? In
the mean time, being mentally immature does not mean, that we are less God
so to speak. Immaturity is a condition of being human, who by living lives
or dreams slowly awakens. Life as a human being is a slow Awakening to
Infinity...
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In this way it is possible for the Divine Self to experience the Creation,
to continue the creation process and to enjoy His/Her creations to His/Her
heart's content. Without the veil (ego) the personality would know
everything of the soul, thus also of the Divine Self, nothing would be left
to discover, to experience and to enjoy and, as a matter of fact, nothing
had changed. A human being, gifted with free will, but limited by veiling
the soul, is God in action!
Gerardus here:
Yes, the material levels of life, or the Matter Creation and the Beings in
it, are created in such a way that they are not directly or immediately
recognizing who or what they really are. IOW: they have separated
themselves from their Higher Selves on purpose - but they do not know this.
As we know, this separation is very painful sometimes and much of it
amounts to suffering. Not to forget that we descended into our Creation in
order to experience it. Experience includes suffering. We descended into a
world of duality...
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There however is a most vital condition: The soul has to be strong - imbued
with willpower, love and wisdom. Under this condition only the personality
and the ego will submit themselves in humbleness to the guidance of the
soul, the free will is exercised in conformity with the Divine Blueprint
(the Prime Directive) and with the Universal Laws and the soul can fulfill
his/her Divine Mission in Worlds of Light.
Gerardus here:
The Soul, beginning as a very tiny unconscious spark or aspect of the
Creator NEEDS to grow by experiences and thereby "awaken and create" itself
to a greater or more powerful Force. We as human beings, we as Souls, are
in the process of creating Souldom or Wisdom. We are in the Process of
creating "awakeness". It's a full time job...
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If the soul is weak, the ego will leave its humble position as servant of
the soul, will seek for recognition and will become stronger; the veil will
become thicker; the seperation of the soul from the Christ Self and the I AM
Presence will proceed; the Divine Flame within the soul will be reduced to a
Divine Spark; the pillar of Light will be reduced to a thin silver string;
the flow of Divine Energy through the silver string will decrease; the
crosbeam of matter will become thicker and longer; ultimately the ego will
usurp the position of power and might over the personality and the body,
will reduce the soul to the position of slave, will excite 'havoc in
heaven', will create density and darkness, and will destroy the creation
within worlds of darkness.
Gerardus here:
Yes, the battle of the Ego and the Soul is a process of which it is said "a
house divided will fall" - this means naturally, that there can be but One
Master. So, to become the Master over the body and body mind - that is the
very purpose of being human. Not to worry however, for this is a very slow
process and we have all the time in the Universe. Time and Space are
self-created states of mind in the first place. No one is going to tell us
- Hey, You over there - you used too much Time and your Space is too big.
Will never happen! Time and Space are of an illusionary nature and have no
existence in themselves...
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It was God's wish to create a Divine Being to His/Her Image. He/She created
the human being, gifted with Divine Attributes, but necessarily also with an
ego which carries the essence of seperation and thus carries the potential
to rebel against God's Authority within the Creation, if the soul allows it
to happen. Seen within this perspective the ego in a human being is the
source of evil, is God's shadow in His/Her Creation, if it isn't imbued with
humility.
Gerardus here:
Not sure whether God has specific wishes about his image, or about mankind.
God or the Creator in being Mankind is in the process of becoming itself
again. It is a round trip! As I see it - we are the Creator or God and have
descended into our Matter-Creation in order to know what it is like. We as
Mankind are here to experience our Creation! Whether or not our image of
the Creator or God is up to par is not something I am concerned about. We
are Duplicates of God or the Creator in the first place. We are the Creator
disguised as Man. The Creator or God does not have an image as such. Its
Image or Power lives within us! It IS Us! IOW: All things are God's image -
Sinners and Saints included. As well as the murderers and or molesters.
They are the God-Force - experiencing Life - Human Life - in order to
awaken to their Infinite Greatness...
In order to do that - we go through all kinds of experiences on both side
of the ledger so to speak. All in all - we experience what it takes to
awaken the Soul or God within us. What some of us do (in the world), is not
necessarily looked upon in a kind way by other people or Mankind. That
naturally is a judgement! I feel that we should be clear of those. We are
not in a position to judge the actions of others. What mankind, or what the
law thinks of this, is part and parcel of an illusionary reality and does
not count. The experience counts. So, what we learn from our behaviour is
what counts! Sooner or later we learn how to behave in a balanced manner,
and spend our time becoming more familiar with the other side of the veil,
than being concerned about who broke these man-made laws or not. Who cares?
We are beyond that now...
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The soul feels the seperation from the Creator and, urged by the Divine
Spark, is longing for reunion. To realize this the soul has no other way
than to wage the protracted inner struggle against the ego by weakening
aspects of ego-feeding and strengthening aspects of humility. This is the
path of ascension, resulting in merging the Lower Self with the Christ Self
and ultimately merging the Christ Self with the I Am Presence.
Gerardus here:
Yes, very true Hanz. I would also like to mention here, that all lives are
for different purposes and no doubt in some lives we live and behave like a
Big Ego and in others we have learned to transcend our selfishness and
"see" the uselessness of all this. After all, the only things we bring with
us into the regions beyond the physical is a bit of knowledge and wisdom...
Kind of useless to amass a fortune and leave it to others when you kick the
bucket. All this needs to be learned and understood naturally and every
human being on earth is in the process of learning this. In the mean time,
one particular Soul, very well could have a wise person as a vehicle, while
at the same time the same Soul also has a big Ego hanging around some
place. Both human vehicles are from the same ultimate Source in the first
place and both have something to contribute to the Wisdom of the
Soul/God/Creator we are...
Blessings and Smiles to All - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 19:36:44 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: War and Suffering...
Gerardus here:
I wrote something about suffering and ignorance this afternoon for another
list. Might fit here too!
--- Suffering is the result of Ignorance
--- War is the result of ignorance!
--- Who's ignorance?
--- The ignorance of those who fight. Or suffer!
If people, Man and Women, were smart enough there would be no more wars!
Since they are NOT smart enough, it is logical that there are wars. Wars are
necessary! We as ignorant Souls come to earth order to learn to become smart
and very few of us have learned our lessons. IOW: approximately, say 99% of
the population is ignorant of what is...
We as ignorant Souls come to earth in order to become more and more aware.
Awareness means intelligence (smartness) and in the long run by means of our
experiences we also become wise. In the mean time, we fight wars... and
more wars... and more wars! Life in life out we fight wars until we get the
picture. We also do other dumb things but fighting wars is about the worst...
The earth is a Cosmic School for Souls, and we are here in order to become
aware. We are here to learn our lesson. Not fighting wars if one of them!
How long does it take before we are aware enough not to fight wars? THAT, I
cannot tell you for there are always young Souls incarnating onto this earth
and therefore there will always be wars. Worlds with "Third Density Levels"
are that kind of "sandbox" within which the so called patriotic and
religious, fight for their counties and or religions. They are brainwashed
into fighting wars. They think that they do their Country or God a favor.
This will happen until they have learned their lessons...
Therefore, the WISH that war would just go away - or find a way to stop it -
is in actuality taking away the school or lessens from those who need it
most - the ignorant. This would be most unfair and would not sit too well
with those Beings who run this world from the higher Densities. Those who
are the Gods and Creators of the Solar System and are responsible for the
education of the ignorant Souls upon earth and other places...
The only way for Souls to stop incarnating upon Third Density Planets is to
promote themselves to higher Densities by means of education! Knowledge is
our Savior - there are no other Saviors. How do we get this Knowledge?
That is up to you. Ask around and/or look what I have got. I do not have all
the answers - but I have some. There are thousands of other places. There is
not that much Knowledge found on Lists. Books and Articles contain a lot
more...
Life is your Bag - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 12:02:07 -0800
From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Fri Apr 05 12:09:00 2002
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
Subject: The Grand Cycle... - Life
Hi Kathleen - Gerardus here:
Life is an infinite phenomenon or an infinite Journey! The Journey is
about Knowledge and/or Awareness and Wisdom. Knowing what to do when! We
pass through Life from Bottom to Top. From Wavicle... to Atom... to
Cell... to Plant... to Animal... to Humanness... to other Stages... to
God... so to speak...
From stage to stage there is learning to be done. We all pass from Bottom
to Top at our own speed and capabilities. Earth is one of these stages and
nobody told us that is was all pleasure. Human Life is a tough undertaking!
Once on Top - there might be a choice of "investing" aspects of ourselves
into another cycle from Bottom to Top. Some call this the Inbreath and the
Outbreath of God. Others call it the Grand Cycle. Knowledge is attained by
the experiences we have within all stages of Life...
In the lower stages of Life we are looked after by others, and in the
higher stages of Life we look after others. The little ones are served...
the Big Ones do the Serving! Life is One Being raising itself, as semi
individual Units, from Small to Great, to Infinite... over and again...
To become Everything... Hang onto Nothing!
There is no Hurry - Gerardus
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From science-l-error@spiritweb.org Mon Apr 08 15:20:50 2002
Envelope-to: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
Date: 8 Apr 2002 22:25:25 -0000
From: Gerardus
To: Science & Spirituality List
Reply-to: Gerardus
Subject: [science-l] The 911 / The Towers of Jericho
Gerardus here:
I have been reading "Voyagers", Volume II, Second Addition - by Anna Hayes
(Ashayana Deane). There is an enormous amount of information in this book,
as well as a lot of history as far as the Human Race is concerned. All in
all - I find it a great book - but it is not easy to read. It's not a
reading-book so to speak...
Among many and many subjects...
the following is also discussed in this book:
What really happened on 9/11/2001
The explanation in this book is pages and pages long and goes into all kinds
of details and circumstances leading up to the 911 Occurrence and some of
these circumstances are thousands of years old! I will try to keep it
simple and say this: The WTC Towers were brought down by very sophisticated
Sound Waves Structures of which Mankind knows next to nothing. These sound
waves look like a trumpet. They flare out at the place of destruction and
de-manifest the target into a residual ash! This is exactly what the New
York Fire Department encountered when they cleaned up the mess. White ashes
everywhere...
This technology is not a human technology. It is a mechanical frequency
amplifier, generating specific Sound Structures, utilizing electromagnetic
wave fields that produce Sub-Space-Sonic-Beams that can be directed for
long range targets. These Sound Structures look like a trumpet. They flare
out at the end so to speak. It is the technology of Higher Density Beings
who have certain plans for this earth. They are the inspirers of the USA
Government Official, who have become their puppets for the sake of Power
and Control over Mankind World Wide...
The terrorists, and all the other paraphernalia, were nothing but camouflage
for the 911 WTC Towers destruction. The planes used in the event might not
even have been flown by terrorists but could have been controlled by remote
control. In any case, the 911 Happening has its roots in the 4D/5D Rulers of
this world, who are being aided by the One World Order Management Team. In
the mean time, the WTC Towers were but one target, the Pentagon another, and
there could have been more targets. Apparently not all plans worked out...
This in a nutshell is but a little detail that I got out of the book. From
all the explanations I have heard - the explanation by Lady Anna is the
best by far. I feel that it is true! No other explanation came even close.
As far as I am concerned the towers definitely did not come down by the
fires in the upper structures of these towers. These explanations are for
the masses listening to the Propaganda-Machine...
Most likely the Walls of Jericho were brought down in the same manner! As
the Bible story goes, the Sounds of the Trumpet brought these structures to
the ground. Indeed, High Technology Trumpets Sounds Waves! All these
biblical stories were presented as the "Wrath of God". In any case - the
Gods are still mad at us...
Gods are hard to please - Gerardus
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From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Tue Apr 16 10:03:09 2002
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:10:13 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
Subject: Good versus Evil...
Gerardus here:
In our universe, and in our worlds of duality, there are Two Forces. Certain
aspects of both Forces have incarnated onto the earth plane and function as
actors in a performance we know as the struggle of Good versus Evil. At this
very moment, there are some dark clouds arranging themselves over our world
and it might seem that the Dark Forces are winning some kind of battle, of
which we do not know the extent, nor the outcome...
At the same time, there are the Forces of Light of the duality picture.
Truly, we have seen little of them lately. But can we really discount the
thousands upon thousands of Crop-Circles for examples? Certainly Not!
Aren't those Crop-circles the signs of the benevolent Ones?
All this means, that they have not forgotten and/or forsaken us. Their
presence, although invisible to us/me most of the time, is always present.
What they stand for - is similar to what we/I stand for. Sooner or later
they will show and do what they must do - separate the Wheat from the Chaff!
While in the mean time, they whisper - All is Well...
Yet, at the same time, no amount of Love and/or Goodwill will be able to
completely eliminate Evil and Dishonesty from this world and the universe.
All sides, Good and/or Bad, are aspects of the Nature of the Universe. It
has to be this way! It is up to us, to align our thoughts and trust with
those of Honesty and Integrity...
Finally:
Why and Who are assisting us? Simple! The Children of the Light are
assisted by the Forces of Light. We are their Children...
I trust in the Universe I am - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:15:17 -0700
From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Thu Apr 18 20:02:08 2002
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The Journey of God in its Creation...
THE DIVINITY OF THE HUMAN BEING
In God's desire to experience Him/Her-Self, He/She split-up in myriad
manifestations and thus created All That Is (the Creation). His/Her
individualization in human beings has a vertical component (the pillar of
Light) and a horizontal component (the crossbeam of matter), both forming
the Maltese Cross (the cross of Spirit anchored into matter). The pillar of
Light consists of (in descending order): The I AM Presence (the Divine Self)
- the Christ Self - the Divine Flame within the soul (anchored into matter).
Hello Hanz and All...
In and by itself there is nothing wrong with what you wrote and basically it
portrays the ascension, as you call it, of the Soul towards its Christ or
Buddha Self, moving toward The Isness of God. Fine! Your article describes
approximately what I believed to be so some years ago...
Please consider the following. It is my story for now...
There are a few things within your article that I see differently. One of
them is, that God does not have desires! God is not a wanter so to speak.
Like: I want this and I want that - or I have desires. God also is not a
wisher - like in what you say here: "it was God's wish to create a Divine
Being to His/Her Image". Who says God is Divine? Yes, you do - but that
does not make it so. Also, how could one possibly know what God wants or
wishes?
There is no need for God to wish anything. I believe/know/proclaim - that we
are God. Any time and Every time! High Souls, low Souls, young Souls, old
Souls, Egos, good Guys, bad Guys, good Girls, bad Girls, Bushes and Saddams,
Stalins and Hitlers, Jesusses and Gautamas, Gerardusses and Hanzes, as well
as all ordinary people, "ARE" God at all times already. There is only God so
to speak. What this God needs (what we need) dwells in our hearts. We act
upon it... and it is different for all of us...
Most human beings are not aware that they are God already and this leads to
the Play or Performance that is acted out in the world. Sometimes it is very
messy! At all times, this Play contains the lessons we need to learn. It is
played or acted out by all kinds of different people - Good as well as Bad.
This Good and Bad however, is only a human connotation - God does not call
its "selves" that way - God never speaks. In and by itself, all of us are
God, or the Light in all its brilliance. Any Time and Every Time...
In the so called beginning (which does not exist) - we as The Infinite Light
(TIL) - travel through our creation by becoming the smallest particle and
slowly move and grow towards the Highest Entity. Eventually we will "join"
again with our infinite Greatness in A Conscious Manner. Along the pathways
of our journey however, we are not completely "conscious" or "aware" and to
become "completely conscious or aware" is what our Journey is all about. It
is filled with infinite lessons. Our Journey in total could be called - The
Ultimate Ascension...
Note 1:
Above, I have "join" in quotes - for in actuality we are joined at all times
already. We never separated from our Godself. We just are not aware, that we
are God or the Light already AND cannot possibly separate, even if we wanted
to...
IOW: Life itself - "that what we are" - as the smallest particle, travels
from next to nothing "TOWARD" Infinite Greatness. This journey is called the
Grand Cycle by some people. The Grand Cycle might well take Ten Million
earth-years. One of the stages of this journey is being Human. Humanness is
approximately a level somewhere in the middle of the entire Journey. It
means that we have a long way to go yet, to "become-consciously-aware" of -
What We Are! We are The Infinite Light Itself. We just do not experience
ourselves as such as yet... We are anyway...
Apparently, we make this journey from bottom to top, an infinite amount of
times, for Life is an infinite phenomenon - Life "is" The Infinite Self we
ARE! We cycle. We are Life, we are God, we are TIL. At this moment in time
however, in this moment in our infinite dream or illusion - we are a Jesus
or a Gautama - working towards our Christness or Buddhahood. Right now, we
do this by living human lives, learning its lessons...
In order to put all this in a picture so that it became more understandable
to me, I made the following sketch. Study it if you like, there was a lot in
it for me. Here it is: http://www.soulwise.net/25g-awl.htm
Note 2:
The above naturally is only a Story. It is My Story for now! Tomorrow I
might change my mind (awareness) and write a different one. Life is change.
In the mean time, we all live in a reality we create, and we can never live
in a reality that is not our creation. This means that the entire universe
is created by us while we go along and live in it. In the end (which does
not exist either) we will find that it only took a moment...
May The Light We Are Shine Through All of Us - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:13:46 -0700
To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [4D-S] Sunday morning thoughts...
Reply-To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus here:
I was speaking with a member of another list and we had the following
discussion. I figured, that it fits on 4D as well. So, here it goes...
Gee here:
Reality of any kind, is a We Thing!
M. here:
Is it only a "we" thing, Gerardus? Or can it be a "I" thing as
well? Or can it also be a we/I thing?
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Hello All...
Please consider the following
it might all be metaphysical malarkey.
It is an "I" and a "We" Thing simultaneously.
There is but one Universal Energy.
Since this Energy is seemingly split into Xillions of Aspects - and we are
one of these Aspects - we are deluded (we live in illusionary realities)
and we think that there is a "WE" and/or more than one thing. In the mean
time, only in this illusionary manner or dream can we play the Game we call
Creation. We are an illusionary individual Aspect of this Creation and
literally are, and live in, the One Mind that dreams this Creation. We are
one of its figments that acquired self-awareness. These Aspects each dream
their own local version of the reality they think they live in...
We live in this Creation or Universal Mind as a "Point of Focus", that at
this time amounts to what we think is a human body and all that goes with
it. The "Point of Focus" we are, is able to expand itself infinitely and
eventually becomes the One Mind. (It actually already is - it just needs to
become aware that it already is. (It is a lot more than a "Point of Focus").
By expanding infinitely, we could say that we create our own universe from
scratch. Since we as a "Point of Focus" live in an illusionary time frame -
this expansion seems to take forever...
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Gee here:
From whichever viewpoint one looks at
it. We all see a different flower although we look at the same
one. The picture we create in our mind is ours. Not someone else's. In the
mean time, we all create the subjective reality of each other.
M. here:
I want to be crystal clear about definitions here because these
discussions usually get bogged down in sloppiness. If I see a
flower a certain way, that is called "subjective". Therefore, we
cannot create the subjective reality of anyone else. We can,
however, individually and subjectively create the "objective"
reality of everyone else, right?
Gee here:
About definitions:
As soon as we define it with words. We have limited whatever it was
we tried to define. Definitions are ideas of 3D people...
Back to what you say above:
No, not as I understand things!
There is no objective reality - any place or universe. Our Scientists have
proven that Objective Reality (the thing we call "out there") is an
illusion. We each create our own reality-version of this illusion - always.
This is why illusion and reality really is the same thing...
There is ONLY ONE Energy in which we live, and are, and this One Energy has
different patterns and frequencies that can be experienced when we are of
the same pattern and frequency. 3D is one of these regions we do this in.
There are many more naturally, including the dream realities we experience
at night while the body-energy is asleep...
Souls are Energies that are super-imposed upon a certain body energy. This
body energy grows from baby to old Geezer and then dies and vanishes. The
Soul or Energy that lived in the body carries on and does what it needs to
do in order to become fully aware of what it used to be - It used to be
--- the Universe or God or Life or TIL. Many of these Soul/Energies
incarnate again and again and learn more and more. Most just incarnate and
learn next to nothing. Depends on the individual Soul. We do what we want
to do. Many are insane for example and make it a profession to kill other
bodies...
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M. here:
I can also conceive of a point of
view where you allow me to come inside your head and let me see your
point of view. Then I will be privy to two subjective points of view.
Gee here:
Yes, you would. What you need to do then is, ride "mental piggy back" as I
call it, and experience what I experience. I feel that this can be done by
those who have trained themselves to do so. (I think so called Masters can
do this) They literally can look out of your or mine eyes. Or even be you
or I. This might be an aspect of the incarnational secrets of living
lives, while the bodies we think we live in have been used by other Souls
before. IOW: there are but a certain amount of bodies so to speak and a
thousands different Souls live a physical life in the same body. Why not?
Anything is possible for it is all a Mind-Game. I mean, there really is no
physical reality - we only think/feel there is. Bodies are not real
things! We could see them as subjective tools or instruments...
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Gee here:
The Creator
within us, working through us, creates the other. Whichever way
it looks at it, from whatever point of view or being - it sees itself...
M. here:
Well, do you see this as a Creator (a personality) or is it the
creative force?
Gee here:
The Creator I see as the Creative Force or the ONE Energy. It is not
self-aware and/or knows anything whatsoever in a conscious manner. We could
see it as the Universal Subconscious or Subconsciousness. It lives within
its "creations" - the you and I, and the other guys and dolls, and all
other entities.
Within these beings it becomes consciously aware to the
maximum in the long run AS those Beings. Some "Points of Focus" like the
ones we are, live in a physical reality that contains Time and Space and
the masses who live there, are cut off from knowing who or what they
really are - until they awaken and see the Light. This takes ages and ages...
Keep breathing in the mean time - Gerardus
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From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Thu Apr 25 11:49:40 2002
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:50:39 -0700
Subject: The Overself..
Gerardus here:
I am not sure where this comes from.
'There is much confusion of understanding about what happens to the ego
when it attains the ultimate goal. Some believe that a cosmic consciousness
develops, with an all-knowing intelligence and an "all-overish" feeling.
They regard it as unity with the whole universe. Others assert that there
is a complete loss of the ego, an utter destruction of the personal self.
No - these are confused notions of what actually occurs. The Overself is
not a collective entity as though it were composed of a number of
particles. One's embrace of other human beings through it is not in union
with them but only in sympathy, not in psychic identification with them but
in psychic harmony. He has enlarged the area of his vision and sees himself
as a part of mankind. But this does not mean that he has become conscious
of all mankind as though they were himself.
The true unity is with one's
own higher indestructible self. It is still with a higher individuality,
not a cosmic one, and it is still with one's own self, not with the rest of
mankind. Unity with them is neither mystically nor practically possible.
What we discover is discovered by a deepening of consciousness, not by a
widening of it. Hence it is not so much a wider as a deeper self that he
has first to find."(22-3.108)
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May 03/2002
Gerardus here:
Summation of my thoughts - for now!
The Observer's Position!
In order to understand why the world is what it is - a bit messy now and
then - it might help to understand what we as human beings actually are.
So please, consider the following:
We are spiritual beings who have come to earth in order to live in human
bodies. It more or less means that we temporarily become one, or think we
are one, like the majority of human beings do. However, we are not the human
being, we are not the body! We are a Cosmic Energy or Soul "living" within
the body. We play a role in the human body, we perform a function. Even if
it is only playing Golf all our life - it is a function...
We come to earth in order to experience the human condition. What is this
human condition? This human condition is of such a nature, that it is not
in harmony, with the rest of the world or universe - on purpose! Souls
cannot learn anything in a perfect world. Which would be so - if all humans
would live in a harmonious relationship. On purpose there is a tremendous
mix-up of human bodies, personalities, Soul-Ages, and special characters, in
order to create a disharmonious whole. Most often it is a hell of a mess. If
all was perfect it would not be worthwhile for Souls to incarnate...
Can this disharmonious situation among human beings be improved? Yes, it
can, but we do not come here to improve or change the world - at this time.
We come here to change ourselves and we can only change ourselves by means
of becoming "aware" of what this world and mankind really is. This world is
a 3D environment of a specific kind and that is what attracted us to this
world in the first place. It's a place to gain awareness relatively quick...
The world is a learning environment in the same sense as Grade Three of
Elementary School is. Most of us went to Grade Three - did our learning and
on the end of the year were promoted to Grade Four. We were promoted because
of what we learned, not because whether we liked certain students and did
not like others...
Please note that while we were in Grade Three - there was no need to
"improve" upon Grade Three and/or correct the rowdies, bullies, or slow
pokes that might have been present there. We more or less learned our
lessons, and we went through Grade Three without improving it. Eventually we
ended up in Grade Four...
Things are the same on earth in Grade Three, or in Third Density! We learn
our lessons in 3D and pass on the 4D, or higher, when promotion time comes
along. This is why the earth always has been seen as a terrible messy place.
Lots of unrest, killing, suffering and whatever else. The question is - how
do we learn our lessons in the most efficient manner?
Simply put - we become aware of what is - and get out! The big clue is
AWARENESS. Our level of awareness creates our circumstances and/or our
environment. It is not necessary to do certain exercises and/or rituals in
order to promote ourselves. Promotion depends on Awareness. Have we learned
the lessons of 3D? Have we learned what this world really is for? Neither
does it depend on whether or not be have aligned ourselves with this group,
or that group, in order to be helped by them.
Neither is it to appeal to
others to give us a boost, because we are not powerful enough to stand up by
ourselves. All human bodies (or Jesusses) are occupied by an Inner Force
that some people call the Inner Christ. This is what we really are - a Soul
or a Christ living in a human body. Lots of power there! Christness is
determined by Awareness...
As soon as this Power becomes aware of what this world really is for - a
Place of Learning - that Power is ready to be promoted when the time is
ripe. As we all know, that time has come! Many of us have been here enough
times to learn the lessons of 3D. They consist of becoming an Observer more
so, than alignment with a certain group...
Conclusion according to Gerardus:
We are the Light in human form and our desire and task is to become more and
more aware. This does not necessarily mean that we have to hang out with
what is thought of as the Good Guys or the Bad Guys. Hanging out with either
is taking sides! Alignment with any group or force makes us lose our Divine
Position of Neutrality. It makes us lose our Observer Position! In the mean
time, both sides, "Light" and "Dark" are necessary in order to create the
training ground for beginning Consciousnesses or Souls. So, it is not
necessary to pick any side, Light or Dark, as a favorite. Both are equal,
for both side are played by Souls who play the different roles or functions.
All Souls have only a temporary affiliation with certain sides. The next
time around, they play a different character or role and are aligned with
the opposite side. It gives them balance in the long run and a readiness at
promotion time... Being a neutral observer is the Clue - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 10:54:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [KeylonticScience] Re: Thoughts
Jay here:
At 12:28 AM 5/5/2002 -0000, you wrote:
Thoughts for the days to come: I did not come here to fight.
I did not come here to win or lose. I came here to "make it happen!" -
Earth will transition to Harmonic Universe # 2 - TARA!
Hello Jay - Gerardus here:
If you did not come to fight, to win or to lose, this means to
me, that you have taken the choice of the Observer's Position.
If you would like to know more about the Observer's Position,
here is what I think about it.
It agrees with what you say in your above short post, but it
might not agree with your emotional collection of thoughts...
Feel free to reject it - Gerardus
http://www.soulwise.net/25f-top.htm
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In KeylonticScience@y..., "grantj101" wrote:
Gerardus - I continued on in the same group of sentences to say "I
came here to MAKE IT HAPPEN" How do you get the position of the
Observer out of that? We are just NOT on the same page with the
issues at hand. Jay
===========================
Gerardus here:
I have put this post in the sequence the conversation took place. This makes
it easier to follow for those who read it on list, as well as for those who
read it from the Archives. For 400 members this save a lot time and effort on
scrolling up and down. Why doesn't this List have this rule?
I will respond to your post now Robert.
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Robert here:
Hi Jay and Gerardus,
I had a couple of thoughts of my own. I didn't come here to fight,
or to lose, but I damn sure came here to win! :)
Gerardus here:
I did not respond to Jay's earlier post, since Jay figured that we were not
on the same page. At this time however, I feel that you and I are on the
same page. Maybe there is only one page after all...
You say that you did not come to fight or to lose. Not sure what you mean by
this directly, for as I see Life - there are no losers in the first place.
In Life everybody is a winner! Life is Consciousness at Play. And Life on
this planet is a play within the Duality Settings of this Planet and in the
end all actors or players end up in the same box. This box is The Infinite
Energy Box we could call the Source or All That Is...
Robert here:
Actually, you guys got me thinking about the Observer and stuff like
that. To me, being the observer is a natural part of the
manifestation process. It is like the inbreath of manifestation, the
EirA. The observer sits in the still point and clearly perceives
what is happening, without any projection of his own onto the
hologram. It is a state of witness consciousness, or passive
awareness, wherein you clearly perceive events as they are and take
them into yourself. To me, anyway, that is the observer's position.
Gerardus here:
Yes, exactly! The observer's position is the equilibrium to work from. This
work in fact already is partly accomplished just by being in this position.
Its level of vibration, the Vibration of Understanding of What Is - in and
by itself helps others to pause and reflect upon Life and its possibilities.
The observer's position is the position of non-attachment, to either what is
at present, or to what will be in the future...
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Robert here:
Then from there you go to the pause breath of manifestation, or the
ManU. This is the point where you stop and consider first, BEFORE
reacting. This is the decision point, and really the POWER POINT,
where you CAREFULLY consider what your action will be based on what
you have just CLEARLY observed, and ONLY then do you act. By doing
this you have short cirtuited that automatic, often emotional,
reaction that will arise spontaneously; a good thing to remember in
emotionally heated situations, eh? :)
Gerardus here:
Yes indeed! Being in this Still Point - the Higher Self or Christ Self gets
a chance to whisper its choices - from this balanced point we get to ponder
upon our next move - if any...
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Robert here:
So, first you observe clearly, the EirA, then you pause and consider,
the ManU, and then you act, the ManA. This is a continuous cyclical
process. We are looking at a higher level of manifestation than
partiki or mions or that stuff, but it is in essence the same thing
taken to the next level. It's a basic process of the universe
whereby evolution of consciousness is achieved. Observation,
consideration, and action. Then observatin again to understand the
results of the previous action, consideration, and then the choice of
what the next course of action will be. And again. And again. This
is how consciousness learns and grows and evolves.
Gerardus here:
Yes, progression on the Ladder of Awareness needs to take place without our
emotional actions and reactions. This is very difficult sometimes since our
emotions have been driving us for such a long time. Some Beings live off
them...
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Robert here:
When you get to the ManA, or the outbreath, where you have
consciounsly considered what your action will be, then you act and
energize that action, and here is THE KEY. This gets back to what
Jay was REALLY SAYING. You act from a space of NONATTACHMENT. This
is CRITICAL to the manifestation process. I will say it again:
CRITICAL. As long as you are attached to the outcome, you hold on to
the energy of the ManA that you are using to create what you want.
You are attached to the results, and thereby you are holding it back,
although unconsciounsly, and PREVENTING it from doing what you intend
for it to do.
Gerardus here:
What you say is very true. Being solidly grounded in the Observer's Position
always make us see or project the future without attachment. This is
important. Having some attachment about how certain things ought to be in
the future of our life or in the life of others, means to me, that we are
trying to direct or control the direction/performance of the Higher Selves
who are in charge of this planet. It is similar to having the audience
direct the movie or the show we have come to see. Does not work too well -
as a matter of fact - it is the main reason for the way the world is at
present. Same as too many cooks - it spoils the meal...
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Robert here:
However, if you are in a state of detachment, then you have RELEASED
and let go of the creation energy. You have set it free so it can
now go and do what you want. This is the KEY! This is the power of
action without attachment. As long as there is that attachment, then
you are blocking your own creative effort, and it will manifest far
less effectively than when you allow the energy to flow. It's being
in the flow, or in the Tao.
Gerardus here:
For most of us, if not all, well let's say at least myself, letting go of
attachment is a heavy lesson. It means to surrender to Life and let things
take place. As I see things, we as individual Souls come to the earth in
order to learn certain lessons. The lessons are learned the fasted when we
are able to take advantage of the curriculum that is presented to us. This
curriculum is the "play" that is being acted out by the human beings
present. Certain human beings for example have certain roles to play, as
directed by their Inspirers or Higher Selves, and this particular planned
scenario is meant to teach us the lessons needed by all of us...
In a long about way what I said there is this: Do not change the world but
change yourself! Well changing yourself means becoming aware of what is.
Meaning - gain awareness. More awareness means progression on the Ladder of
Consciousness...
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Robert Here:
So, as far as being in the "Observer's Position", yes, you go there,
but it is only PART of the process, or the flow, so you stay there
only long enough to clearly perceive, and then move on to the next
phase of the manifestation process. Then you determine your course
of action, and then, as Jay put it so well, you "MAKE IT HAPPEN".
Your points were both well taken guys. I thank you for that, as it
helped to clarify some of this for me, which I mentioned above.
Gerardus here:
Thank you for your kind words Robert. We can only learn from each other. For
all of us are the Teachers and Students of each other. Life is that way...
---------------------------------
Robert here:
Again, the big key for me is to do the ManU part WITHOUT ATTACHMENT,
so the energy is free to flow and create. The hard part is to let go
without TRYING to let go. If you TRY to let go, then you only create
a double bind situation, and the energy is more stuck than ever. The
trick is to let go without trying to let go. I don't know how to put
this, but you just have to do it, as Jay said, make it happen, but
WITHOUT trying, or attached effort.
Man, if only I had listened to Yoda all those years ago. There is no
try, only do :)
Gerardus here:
I am not sure who Yoda is, but whoever it is - s/he is right. Life is
action indeed - but just not of any kind. It needs to be planned in a
conscious manner... Living consciously is the clue - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 11:18:31 -0700
From gerardus@otvcablelan.net Wed May 08 11:17:05 2002
Subject: What is real and what is not?
Gerardus here:
What is real and isn't real?
I think/feel/intuit that all realities high and low are virtual realities.
All is Consciousness or forms thereof. This to me means, that we live in
Mind. There is nothing else but Mind. We live in IT and we are IT! It is
Infinite! So in order to make anything "real" anywhere, you can only have
one mind-energy impress upon another mind-energy that there is something
over there say. Living in a human body means that we are restricted to a
certain range of frequencies and anything beyond that becomes unreal or
invisible...
IOW: there are overlapping realities or illusions (same thing) and each
reality contains its particular real things. (Same frequency-range-things)
When these so called real things enter into another reality range, they
might become temporarily part of the reality they enter. Yet, they are not
of it! What is real and what is not, also depends on the observer. What
state of mind does the observer occupy? Possibly some people might be
existing in more than one reality or state of mind. They would see UFO's
and others see nothing at all. Sometimes however, UFOs become almost
entirely physical and naturally everybody will see them...
So living in a very restricted reality or illusion, UFOs are only temporary
visitors and might appear differently to different people. In actuality
all we see "out there" is a fabrication of our own holographic brain and
things are created on the spot! This "fabrication" depends on what we
already have on our brain circuits - it depends on our previuos
experiences...
Scientist tell us that there is no "Objective Reality" out there. I say
there is not even an "out there"! What's happening any place, is happening
Within our own Mind - it's happening within us! So what is real - or not
real? Everything and Nothing...
To finish with this babbling:
There is only ONE REAL THING - which is: The Nameless!
The Nameless sees and is All THINGS - we are IT!!
No thing stands alone in the universe and all things
flow forth from one another. Life is a Dynamic Flow
within which the Source of all Things is "reflected"
within its Manifestations. Simultaneously there is
a continuous feedback from its Manifestations to the
Source to keep it up to date...
Light... Love... and Laughter.
~ Gerardus ~
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Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:19:58 -0700
To: KeylonticScience@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [KeylonticScience] Re: Amenti
At 10:26 PM 5/14/2002 -0000, you wrote:
Gerardus,
If you read the books, you will notice that there are trillions if
not more beings talking about the same information that Ash is. She`s
just relaying it to us because we`ve become kinda hard of hearing so
to speak.
Hello Spiral... Gerardus Here:
I am glad you wrote!
I agree! There are millions of people spirit-deaf and billions who are not
interested in spiritual knowledge or education. This is their Life! Their
Life is their education! In the mean time, the masses are the Soil from
which the Christs arise. A Christ is the Truth and the Reality and before
this is fully realized the Learning Christ falls for stories and illusions.
The masses - they are where they are and that is fine. All this comes down
to what you say above, and it is what I said in the first place. There are
more people who come out with similar if not the same information all the
time. Thinking that the info from others is disinfo and yours is not - is a
matter of opinion. Ask the others, they say that what you see as the real
thing is disinfo. DOES it really make any difference once you know who or
what you are?
I have said before:
We are the Truth and we fall for stories and illusions!
Thinking that one knows the only truth is a dangerous thing. How would one
know if one does not investigate? I hear people say on Key-List I do not
want to go there because I do not want to be disturbed, distracted or
something similar. Really? Life is a disturbance from beginning to end
until we rest in our own Knowing of who or what we are. All stories then do
not matter anymore. So, I say it really makes no difference. To me all
teachings are different stories and I find it very interesting indeed - all
teachings tell us the same thing. You are IT! Rely on yourSelf! I know who
or what I am and have known for a few years now. That is why I came out
with my Story Post and that was some years ago. Here it is --
http://www.soulwise.net/25d-gsp.htm
---------------
Spiral here:
Gerardus said-All this does not mean that Ashayana does not have
right answers.
Me: Gerardus, Ive been observing your posts for a short while now,
and those posts as well as this statement lead me to wonder whether
you believe what Ash is saying.
Gerardus here:
I believe that part of what she says is so, I do not believe all she says.
There is not need for it. Many of the things she says, I knew already in
1985 for example. I just did not know all the details and how things would
work out. The details are not really important. Basically I am not
interested in too many details in the first place for I know that I am
fine. I am safe - I am the Christ and I stand in the Light of the Christ I
Am. My aura is sealed and I am beautiful. Is there anything else to know?
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Spiral here:
I noticed your word usage and how you
used a double negative when addressing whether Ash has "right
answers".
Gerardus here:
A double negative make a positive - so she has right answers. I do not want
to say that she has all THE right answers. It might mean that I am able to
check-out exactly what she says and confirm it. I cannot know this and do
not care either. What happened 200 million years ago is not very
interesting to me. Who did what and why makes no difference now. We are
awakening from our long sleep. My task is to help awaken many more people.
Not whether they are going to ascend - go to 4D or 5D or World Two or stay
in the phantom world listening to Bush and his clout - all that is up to
them. We will all end up where we belong.
There is nothing to be concerned
about - let alone worry or rely on but one human being to tell us what's
going to happen next and/or whether we are now in plan A, plan B, plan C or
some other contingency. My point is, we are where we are, and we will move
according to the level of our awareness - Period. We do not have to be
concerned one bit. Our destiny is and has been determined by the results of
many many lifetimes. Taking a few workshops from this or from some other
teacher, or doing some exercises from this teacher or another, is not
important to me. HOWEVER, it might be important to others. Do as you
like/love - it is your life. In the mean time I am doing what I see fit to
do with my life...
---------------------------------
Spiral here:
That led me to wonder about what you really think, versus
what you are saying. Dont worry I'm not trying to attack you, just a
question.
Gerardus here:
Yes! I do not feel attacked or even questioned for that matter - or even
wondered about - although many do wonder about me. I respond to your post
like I have done to about 25,000 of them, according to how I really think
and feel. Is there any other way of writing than what you feel like? I
would not know how. Check what I wrote as much as 20 years ago and you will
know what I feel, write and smile about it. You are safe where you are
Spiral. You are safe - with our without Ash. She is not your savior - you
are...
-----------------------------
Spiral here:
Have you been able to remember that any of it is true or
recognize the events and things decribed?
Gerardus here:
As I said, there is a lot of truth in what Ash writes. There is also a lot
of truth in what I write. Whom am I to follow? You know who I am to
follow! I follow my own authentic Light, however small it is, nothing new
here. Truth is an individual thing! There is no absolute truth. I do know
that Ash came down here to do certain things. I also know that I came down
here to do certain things and I am doing them. I made thousands of people
question themselves. I see my task as awakening the little guys and dolls.
THAT is what my writing is all about. It is not to lead others into other
densities and/or into other worlds through certain open or closed Gates. I
feel that all Gates are in our own awareness in the first place. Opening
them is up to the individual by whatever means possible...
--------------------
Spiral here:
Have you tried any of the
techniques yet? Can you feel anything from the material or feel any
kind of recognition within yourself?
Gerardus here:
I have not been able to do any of the exercises and or even read the ones
that are in book One and Two. I would like to read the books once more
first. At present, as usual for the last ten years, I am occupied with MY
work up to my eyeballs so to speak. I do - I do - I do - what I find the
most important thing to do. This is taking care of my people. As far as
Gerardus is concerned - do not worry about him. His Soul is enlightened
already. I am here to testify to this, by being what I am, an Instrument of
The Infinite Light to share some here and there. Lately I have been working
on my latest article. It's kind of surprising and I am pleased with it. It
is 99.9% finished. Be my guest -- http://www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
Only one Candle - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:24:45 -0700
To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [4D-S] Fw: [doveofo] NESARA & Prosperity Countdown
Reply-To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
The Dove egroup currently has more than 8,260 members.
Mahrouk here:
Wow, with the sort of message they are giving out I'm surprised they don't
have 8 million.
Let's also call forth WORLD PEACE; NESARA is officially and legally linked
to World Peace. Prosperity Now! NESARA NOW!
What does this mean- 'officially' and 'legally'? What does it ALL mean? I
hope good things happen but at the same time I cannot help noticing what a
brilliant game plan this would be to keep mass energy focused on wealth and
magical dreams of a better tomorrow without needing to lift a toe or open
one's eyes to what's going on. Does the world look like it's moving towards
peace??
Gerardus here:
Hi Mahrouk...
Thank you for your insight. I had a good laugh about your million members!
What is generally not understood by many is this:
The more members there are on a list or organization for that matter - the
more they all belong to a specific group. All members become or are
"groupies" then and although it is not called a religion or belief system,
it naturally is anyway...
Was Buddha a groupie? Was Jesus? Was Krishna a groupie? Was Einstein?
How about Tesla? Was Edison? Niels Bohr maybe? Naturally not!
Here is another point - everybody seem to be looking for Truth.
Well Truth, or Life, or God, or the Universe - they are all the same thing!
Do people search for Life??
Do they search for the Universe??
Why then do they search for Truth??
Truth is not Lost! How can it be found?
People who look or search for Truth are lost themselves! This needs to be
understood before any real progress can be made on the Individual path...
Life, Truth, the Universe, the Self, the Light, or God can only be
experienced! One cannot find it some place or run into it by being
a member of some group. ----> Not even 4D !!!!!!!!
Groupie of One - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:38:53 -0700
This must be the beginning of the second TriLite List!
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TriLite] First Post - The One Knowing!
To all Listers... (Two of them maybe)
Once you know who you are
all looking and searching stops.
All teachings then become stories
and all stories become teachings.
All things then are just as interesting as the next
while yet we have preferences for that is our nature.
Knowing this or knowing that
is but an exchange of differences
for no Being can ever know it all.
In the mean time...
it is not important to know anything
except the knowing of the One Knowing.
Realizing who or what I AM - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 20:02:15 -0700
To: 4D-Special@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [4D-S] God is Creation!
To All Thinkers
and Non-Thinkers...
The story that God created man is not true...
But the story that man created God is!
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God is Creation!
They are One Being or Energy
but seemingly divided for those
who live in the illusionary world of the senses...
To live in this world
is a privilege that confuses most of us...
It's not unsurmountable - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:28:55 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TriLite] We play Games with our Energy...
Welcome to all New TriLiters...!
(Seventeen Members strong Now)
And just Hello to all the rest...
I wrote something to another list this morning and I thought that it would
fit right in TriLite's Metaphysical Department. So here it is.
Comment are welcome...
==============
There is only One Energy in the Universe and we are that Energy - Almighty
and Infinitely Powerful. Since this is so, we play games with our Energy and
incarnate into all kinds of different bodies and/or things creeping and
crawling around. In each of these bodies and things we become aware as
those bodies and things and often believe that some other Force or Creator
created us...
This is a most accepted story or belief as people call it. Some make
religions out of it and declare themselves closer to God.
Little do the religions and their followers know,
that they have not learned enough about themselves,
in order to grok that there is but One Energy - the One They Are - the
Creator hiding within the Created, of which only a few sit there and smile
like a Buddha...
Only One Candle - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:30:47 -0700
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To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Thought-Bubbles...
>>Thece Here:
>>Gerardus, these are all part of you, correct???
Hi Thece...
We are all "aspects" (part) of each other. We are all aspects or facets of
the One Infinite Diamond or Miracle! In a "One Energy Universe", there are
no parts and/or portions. This is why I speak of "aspects" and sometimes of
"characteristics" or "expressions"...
In any case, I know I have Guides or Helpers, for they have helped me when
I wrote all my Poems. I sometimes came up with English words, I as a
Dutchman had never seen, and I had to look them up in the dictionary. My
poems really surprised me and at first, and I thought that I, (Gerardus)
had become that good all of a sudden. Not me! Helpers beyond me!! I know
the words when they are needed.
They come very fast sometimes - too fast for a slow writer.
So, since I know I have Guides - I have come up with
different characteristics for these Guides that show through me. Now!! All
this is pure imagination - but when you grok - you know that imagination is
the only thing that is real - Thoughts are Real...
So, are these People/Guides part of me? - yes naturally they are. They are
part of you too! The entire universe is a part of "us" - if I keep speaking
in parts that is. We all are the "Same One Being" expressed into different
expressions. We put on Energy-Suits. This is done so that we have something
to do which is most intriguing and awfully hard to figure out. It's a Mind
Game...
On my pages I have a picture and words that kind of explain the entire
layout of the universe in a very simple way. Look there if you like --
http://www.soulwise.net/25g-awl.htm ---- There is also another file that
might help to grok more about the puzzle that needs to be solved before we
can understand it in human terms -- http://www.soulwise.net/25whatis.htm
What has happened to us is this: we as human beings in 3D enclosed
ourselves into "thought-bubbles" (the things you see in cartoons and
contain the words these characters think or say). Well, that's us see. We
are thought-bubbles and the thoughts and the words "IN" the thought-bubbles
determine how solid our thought-bubble-skin is. This is so, because we
have limited ourselves to the personal thoughts or secrets we think or
assume we are...
Like: I am a computer technician, I am a medical assistant, I am an
electrician, I am a psychologist, I am a Gnostic, I am an Agnostic, I am a
Christian, I am a Thief, I am a Lawyer, I am Bill Johnson, I am Bert
Bakkerak, I am Theo --- so we have enclosed ourselves by a few ideas
and words - while in actuality we are the Universe or the Creative Force
compressed into a stupid thought-bubble. Many people like it that way,
because it makes them feel safe. Their limitations are their safety
blankets! We need Expansion --- Openness...
Trick is to OPEN up this Thought-Bubble and let some intuition slip in.
This means that we have to let go of our 3D way of thinking and living by
becoming OPEN to the rest of what we are. Open to Guides, Helpers, Souls
and who knows what else. We must open up to 4D and 5D realms. That is what
is called Enlightenment - Opening Up to our True Self. Opening up to "The
Infinite Light" We Are...
Our intuitive Self or our Soul is connected to all things and/or minds in
the universe. So, to connect to our Soul or Higher Self means to open up
our 3D Bubble, this must be done by forgetting about 3D personality stuff
or secrets that we guard as if they are worth something. They are not worth
a darn thing - for we are our Soul in Actuality. To experience the Soul We
Are - we need to open up our thought-bubble by letting go of nonsense...
Mind and Soul Surgeon - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:36:59 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] The Song of the SongMaster
At 09:56 AM 6/14/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>In our early childhood spiritual and religious education, there
>were a few stories that captured our imagination and perhaps made a
>bigger impact on us than others. Some even made it on to the "Big
>Screen". The Story of Moses and that of King David were amongst
>them.
>
>However, were these "Bible Stories" really the way we were told ..
>or was there something underneath them that we "saw through" -
>some other essence - an awakening of a deeper knowing -
>a remembering that was later to be buried under the following years
>of Dogmatic Institutional Indoctrination - and made wrong.
Hello Christopher...
I am amazed at your knowledge!
I am not assured however, that what you write can directly be accepted as
something valuable beyond all other knowledge and/or intuitive feelings or
radical knowing...
Here is something you say on the anunda page:
"You may find this site especially valuable if you've tried lots of
self-help, religious, spiritual or self-exploration approaches before - but
they either haven't "felt right" or did not produce the consistent, lasting
results you long for".
Now, about this not feeling quite right. That is exactly the way I feel
when I read your quotations from the bible or writings from people who have
knowledge of all these scripture. It just does not sit well with me. I feel
that it misses the point completely in many cases, while in the mean time,
many people feel committed to study all this because it is so old and
therefore must contain value or spirituality for that matter. Spirituality
is a matter of Practicality - the BeHereNow reality of Common Sense...
Therefore, I believe the Here and Now - by being here - with the
contemporary writers of today. Not the hashed over and forever revised
writings of yesterday! I will try to explain shortly as follows...
One example to keep it short:
It seem to me that the story of Jesus was supposed to have happened to a
personality called Jesus. In the mean time, the same story has been told
thousands of years before him, and even more of the same stories before
that. To me they are nothing but repeats of a con game we fell for.
Another thing, why would a Man of great knowledge sacrifice himself for the
common masses. The whole thing just does not sit well with me...
I say:
We are the Truth and the Reality but fall for stories and illusions.
As I see it, the bible and all other so called holy books have been
inspired by higher dimensional dark forces that "use" humanity for their
own purposes. In order words, because of our established religions and its
followers, the world has become a quagmire of unrest, instability, wars,
and worse - exploitation. These 4d/5d forces live off these negative
energies. Also, they live off mankind the way we live off cattle of
chickens. They steal our children...
We can see this up to this day, for as far as I can see what's happening,
our present dark forces have a hold on the USA. The government there
presently, is vastly becoming a Fascist Movement that indeed will put us
deeper into Hell than the world has ever been. It will not even be close to
what it was in Germany in the forties. I was there! Now, all this is fine
for the sake of Experiences and no doubt we asked for it. There is an end
to misery however, and I do not feel that we have to take and believe and
live by the inspired wordy nonsense in any old book or scripture. The time
has passed for that kind of thing. We have enough intuitive people on this
world now to do away with these Masters of the Dark and their stories...
The state of our world, in my view, is a result of so called inspirations
by the dark forces that have been influencing mankind for thousands of
years. The inspired holy books have taking this world for a ride for a long
time now. This is why - personally, I do not pay attention to anything that
has been written more than say fifty years ago, except for some of the
writings of Lao Tzu and other great scholars...
For more on this please see:
http://www.soulwise.net/25a-tgs.htm
and the article clickable from there...
Here is a quote from my friend Alexander:
The only way one can spend an eternity in hell
is to not realize that one is already there!
Gerardus here:
We are ready to rule Humanity by means Humanity - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:57:29 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Thinking Thoughts...
Hello TriLiters...
This is a portion of a post I sent to another list.
I thought that it would fit on TriLite also:
Gerardus here:
Anybody who creates a God has done so because of conditioning. This is what
needs to be wiped clean before real understanding can take place. Anyone who
believes in God - has put upon himself a burden of universal proportions -
before long - he sees himself as a sinner instead of a Universal Being
awakening to its own Greatness. The universe is like a pop-corn machine.
Living Life heats us up and sooner or later we pop into our Universal Mind
again. From that Level, aspects of ourselves start from scratch. Life is a
forever lasting chain of experiences. No Being can stop it - we can only
change certain things when we become conscious enough to do so. When we
become fully conscious - we know that no thing needs to be changed for
things are exactly as they should be. The Universe is a Change Machine.
God is Creation. Creation is about Change. Man is about Money...
The Universe and/or Creation IS a forever lasting Performance or a Play. We
play roles in this play - we fulfill functions. Within this play all actors
are the same energy differently - therefore all things, actors and other
creatures ARE of equal value. Those who play a minor role now, will play a
major role later, when ready for it. We all slowly move up and then look
after the lower realms of the Universe. We cycle and recycle ourselves
endlessly - there is no end nor beginning to it. There is no High, there is
no Low. There is Creation in Equality living in Duality - yet in the
Oneness of the One Energy...
The Universe is a Dream that dreams itself. We are the figments of and in
our own Dream. The Dream is Real - the Dream is Illusion - We are the
Dreamer. Within this Dream we are able to become more consciously aware of
what this Dream means and contains. Awareness expansions bring us up to
different levels or densities from time to time...
Here is something about the kind of periods we go through --
http://www.soulwise.net/25h-cdn.htm Is all this True? It does not matter!
Once you know that you are the Truth - there are only stories...
This Dreamer never awakens - Gerardus
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To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Gerardus the CREATOR
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 06:29 PM 6/19/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Alexander here:
Gerardus:
I forgot how entertaining TriLite was! Thank YOU for CREATING it
once again. I have been away too long.
Hello Alexander...
Glad you found the time to post. I always liked your insight!
Did you, or do you look into my mind nowadays - or what?
Just kidding...
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Gerardus here:
This is Great. For him! How does that help you? Does it mean that you
must become his follower because he is the best there is? Do you want to
be his follower?
I follow pure spiritual logic from God and his pure representatives. You
follow your imperfect mind speculation. As I said real God is beyond our
mind.
Alexander here:
Wow, I am not familiar with this type of logic. Is it a new sect of
logic? If god is beyond our Minds, then why do we go to such great
lengths to define it for other people?
Gerardus here:
It is easy to define for people who do not have the actual concepts of what
Creator is - they just put the Creator (or God) beyond them and then study
it. It is the most intelligent reversed psychology that even stretches the
intelligence of those who invented it - but those who follow it have no
problem with it. This is so, because they still continue to think according
to the indoctrination that was received since birth. Happens all the time.
I suffered from it for 35 or more years. I have been there!
The biggest trouble is that when the truth hits us - we reject it - because
we have to admit that we were deceived. Our world literally fall apart! We
feel lost!! We scratch not only head but whole body and extensions. It's
hard on the ego for it usually happens to the most intelligent. I was not
one of them however, and that is why it was easy for me to completely forget
what I was taught. No doubt the minor big bang helped me. Come to think of
it - it was self-inflicted...
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BTW - I am one of the pure representatives
"The intimate servants of the Supreme Lord are fully absorbed in loving
Him." [Narada-bhakti-sutra 70] That means pure love.
Alexander here:
Sounds like a harem to me. As one of the pure representatives, I can
assure you that any real god has no need for servants.
Gerardus here:
Creator is in favor of equals - not of followers.
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Gerardus here:
BTW:
You did not answer MY question:
Is this Srila Prabhupada finished learning?
Yes he is and even more. You can find on the web.
Gerardus here:
I must have read that too quick the first time. It did not sink in. Imagine
- someone knows someone who is finished learning. Wow!
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Gerardus here:
The only thing I do not agree with by what he says, is the word "parts".
Simply follow logic and you will understand. It is very easy to understand.
Alexander here:
What kind of logic?
Gerardus2 here:
The one that is contained by mastering the reverse psychology of putting
creator beyond you and then say I am finished learning because this Creator
keeps hiding from me (Perfect Logic). Instead of understanding that the Good
Old Creator lives right within all Beings and it actually comes up with all
the questions while the answers flow forth from another aspects of itself.
This naturally kind of says that Creator is a self-contained Oneness that
appears in different forms as if it is many - which it is naturally - many
in and as One, but temporarily deluded by the illusionary reality they live
in...
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Gerardus here:
He probably knew that there are no "parts" - but he uses the words
"parts"
to make it understandable to ordinary guys who are listening to him...
Daya here:
"To those who are constantly devoted to serving Me with love, I give the
understanding by which they can come to Me." [BG 10.10]
This is exactly what pimps say to their whores - I saw it on tv.
Gerardus here:
I must have been watching the same show. The trick naturally is for the
whores to catch on. I kinda knew this already so I turned the TV off...
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Gerardus here:
NO, I do not agree with parts and portions. That is what we see, but
it is
not what exist in the actuality of the One Energy. We are fooled into
believing that there are parts and portions or fragments. Not so! The
Universe is One Energy - One Mind! All parts are illusions. Even
Einstein
said something like that I think. He said: Yes, the universe is a very
persistent illusion. He spoke of the physical universe. Matter and Mind
are a continuum. They are one! There actually is no matter! Matter is a
form of Mind. Matter is 99.999% empty as you know. How come we see and
experience solidness??
"Therefore this entire universe, which like a dream is by nature unreal,
nevertheless appears real, and thus it covers one's consciousness and
assails one with repeated miseries. This universe appears real because
it is
manifested by the potency of illusion emanating from You, whose unlimited
transcendental forms are full of eternal happiness and knowledge."
[Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.14.22]
This sounds like something Gerardus would say. I think Gerardus IS
Krisna, or at least Arjuna.
Gerardus here:
Another great problem of this "Supreme Being" teaching is - that a lot of it
is true. It means that people see the truth of it and in the mean time
swallow the nonsense or bait. They are like fishes see - do not know about
hooks and stuff. Hooks are the brainwashing that takes place while one
swallows that which is truth. One becomes a believer or follower and most
likely die as one...
---------------------------------
Alexander here:
>This exchange has been great. I think that Daya should start to
>worship Gerardus like me. I worship a few different gods, including
>myself, but Gerardus is the most benevolent of them all and the best
>aspects are that I can really speak with him, I really know he is a he
>and there is no middle man between us! Now that is being in touch with
>the Creator!
Gerardus2 here:
I have to disappoint you here Alexander. Followers are not allowed to
worship me or my Gerardian Philosophies. This is a rule of this Philosophy!
It would defeat the purposes of the universe. For in actuality my philosophy
is the very philosophy of the followers on a different plane of
understanding. It will be grasped in time. Meanwhile, we exorcize patience
to the limit of kindness with nobility towards those who are hooked. We
realize that we live in a world of Duality where Creator is Sinner and
Saint. I even have a sneaky suspicion that Creator truly enjoys the Sinner
roles, but it is not necessarily ready to admit this openly to Saints. At
least not in the light of day. Naturally all this is only my suspicion and I
would want to speculate on it...
--------------------------
Alexander here:
I must end with a favorite quote from the venerable Rev. Walpola Rahula,
"What is Nirvana? Nirvana which is the Absolute Truth or Ultimate
Reality cannot
be explained in mundane language as language is created and used by
human beings
to express things and ideas experienced by their sense organs and their
mind. A
supramundane experience like that of the Absolute Truth is not of such a
category and there cannot be words to express that experience, just as
the fish
had no words in his vocabulary to express the nature of the solid land.
The
tortoise told his friend, the fish, that he (the tortoise) had just
returned to
the lake after a walk on the land. "Of course", the fish said, "You mean
swimming." The tortoise tried to explain that one couldn't swim on the
land,
that it was solid, and that one walked on it, but the fish insisted that
there
could be nothing like it, that it must be liquid like his lake, with
waves, and
that one must be able to dive and swim there.
Words are symbols representing things and ideas known to us and these
symbols do
not and cannot convey the nature of even ordinary things. So the
Lankavatara
Sutta says that ignorant people get stuck in words like an elephant in
the mud."
Alexanderji
Gerardus here"
Agreed! In the mean time, the only way to get out of the mud is by trying to
articulate the vibrations that convey the understanding of the Infinite and
Unlimitedness that is present within all human beings as well as in all
creatures of creation. For indeed - all expressions of Creator are equal and
unlimited in scope and potential. To realize that this is so, is a matter
of forgetting what we have been taught by the society in which we were
raised in, and this might include Father, Mother, Aunt Mary and Uncle Bernt
- who meant well - but were not aware of their unlimitedness either. If so,
it would have been conveyed to the child they raised. We go through all
these different lifetimes in order to experience different lifetimes and
eventually realize who or what we are in actuality - The One That Is All...
Blessing and Laughter - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:47:00 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] God is Creation!
At 11:19 AM 6/21/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Gerardus:
It is like the apple seed. It contains a millions other apple trees and a
billions times a billion apples - an infinite amount of apples actually!
The same with each human being - the Boy contains the Grand Father. The
Grand Father is already present in the Boy...
A billion apple come into existence only if spiritual spark enters into
apple seed. Without spiritual spark there is no life. Every spiritual sparks
have his identity and therefore the different bodies are developed. If all
spiritual sparks are one than the body will be same. The soul is atomic in
size and can be perceived by perfect intelligence. Every soul has his
identity. After liberation soul can be one with Super Soul (spiritual
identity suicide) and in revival different eternal relationship with Supreme
Being.
Daya
Hello Daya...
Close!
The Spiritual Spark is always already in the apple seed - for the seed
itself is the spark! Although the word "spark" is not a very good
description of The Infinite Light (TIL). The seed as we see it, is only a
very small aspect of the actual energy the whole seed is. The actual whole
seed IS the entire Universe!!! The seed IS Creator, God, or TIL. In
actuality there is no separation between seeds and apples, and or trees, and
or people and or the Creator. The Creator = Creation...
For human beings living in physical reality however there seems to be a
separation between seeds and apples and trees and all the rest. In the
universe as Energy no thing is separate. All is One Energy!
There also is no separation between you and the TriLite Members. That is why
they take effort to stay in contact. They can show you the Garden, but they
cannot make you enjoy the view however! This means - we can give you the
words - but you must do the understanding...
In a way, the apple seed is like human beings. Human being have auras (the
aura is also an aspect of the human). As a matter of fact it is their
subconsciousness or their Soul. This Soul in connected to the entire
universe or the Creative Energy by means of "Invisible-Light" or invisible
energy vibrations (Let's call it Spirit). Our scientists have not discovered
this kind of high vibrating invisible energy. It is there anyway! All
things are connected together by invisible energy vibrations. Humans are
able to see very little of the total universal spectrum of energy
vibrations. We see an infinitely small aspect or the Universal Continuum.
This is what fools us! We think there is separation because we experience
separation. What connects all things together and makes them one energy -
is the energy of what loosely could be call Spirit, Mind or Consciousness.
There is only One Mind...
We are Eddie-Currents in the River of Life - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 15:35:06 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: A Play! No more - no less...
Hi Stefan...
I have different ideas about Love and sending it to others. I feel that this
interferes with their free will. I think we could write ten posts about this
back and forth - but most likely it would not change your or my opinion
about our positions...
My basic rule is to send Love/Help/Energy/Words to those who ask. The 3D
world and its environment is like Grade Three in Elementary School. Neither
of them need to be fixed by Love or with Love. We attend and learn our
lessons. We learn at our own speed. When we make the grade - we pass to 4D
or Grade Four...
IOW: there is nothing wrong with 3D and or Grade Three the way they are. The
world does not need fixing. We attend, pass through them, and leave them the
way they were. We are not here to improve or change the world. We are here
to change ourselves. We change ourselves by learning our lessons. One of
these lessons is not to interfere with the free will of others. The world,
rather, the whole Universe is a Stage. We play our roles and learn by
playing them. Eventually, we learn that all Actors are equal. All Actors are
the same Energy in different form. It expresses itself in order to entertain
itself. It is a Play. No More, No Less...
The lessons of 3D are Knowledge - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:48:36 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
X-Yahoo-Profile: imualso
Subject: Re: [TL] What's this??
Gerardus here:
I guess I must have been included in your Spirit's Plan.
What else is in there? - Gerardus
***
Stefan here:
I have no doubt that you are one of the highlights of my plan.
Gerardus here:
I hope I can live up to it.
Do you think that there is anything special I need to do?
----------------
Stefan here:
Spirit has made it clear to me that I can not be privy to what my plan
entails, except for what I can ascertain in the here and now. I acquiesce to
consciousness that is far wiser than I, but I wonder. I wonder why my soul
would choose to be born into a world where it's body is being stalked by a
pathological killer (my term for the secret government).
Gerardus here:
It looks to me that your Spirit allows you to be in a playful mood, so I
kind of "hang-out" SpiritWise and play along. Here I go: I think that your
greater body, as you call it, knew that it would give the little body the
very experience that your greater body embraces Dark as well as Light in
about a 50/50 ratio. It kind of means that all of us are half Bad - half
Good. It's all outlined in the Department of Divinity where All is One. No
Dark no Light so to speak...
My term for the Secret Government is "The Almighty Trinity" ---> (1)The
Religions, (2)The World Bank, (3) The Politicians. It's kind of three hands
on one belly - the belly of mankind that is. What would the world be without
them? A useless Paradise where we had no puzzles to solve and nothing much
to do. All things would be too cozy to disturb our Stay in GraceLand where
the King lives. This kind of Paradise would have no challenges and we would
not even have to get up to eat - we have our meals laying down so to speak.
What a terrible sight that would be. The Eternal Reclining Eaters... Wow!
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Stefan here:
I wonder how this soul could manage to discern it's way through the maze of
3D poisons and illusions and find the fresh air of upper 4D. I wonder if
everything I have seen and heard about the nature of 3D body death is a lie.
But I don't wonder about my plan, I just live it.
Gerardus here:
I feel that Souls can hold their nose a long time and sail through DDDDs
without being troubled by pollution or poisons. They are used to it! They
"plane" through so to speak! I also think that the best way to find out
about the nature of death in 3D is to ask an undertaker or two - they
usually do not fool around much and speak truth because Death is their Bread
and Butter. They make a Living from this kind of Death. Maybe they are the
forerunners of those who aspire and wish that 4D was here already. I think
4D is within everybody like Grandmothers are within Womenhood. It's kind of
built in like an apple seed - just there.
..
Going back to your first line:
***Spirit has made it clear to me that I can not be privy to what my plan
entails, except for what I can ascertain in the here and now.***
I figure that you got the better end of the bargain. However, it does mean
that your Free Will is in some kind of instantaneous/simultaneous "Now What
State" while it ponders the next move?
My spirit has made it privy to me that it cannot be sure of what it needs to
do - because the whole shebang is up to me. It knows that I pay the Fiddler
and call my Dance. Naturally, I have to keep my steps within the limits of
the physical. I guess your Spirit and my Spirit are holding up the opposite
ends of the Spirit Spectrum. How will be ever meet, except in this
CyberParadise of Words on Screen?
And like you said:
***But I don't wonder about my plan, I just live it.***
Yes, indeed, in a universe where time is an illusion, what else can we do
but just live the next minute as if it was the first and the last. Good
philosophy...
How do you know there is fresh air in 4D? - Gerardus
(Do you think people are holding their nose there?)
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Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 15:20:06 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The Apple Seed...
Still there Alexander? - Gerardus here:
I have read Kuhn's article now and no doubt he clarified the Genesis Story a
lot. He is a smart and wise man. However, when I was finished reading I had
only read a clarification of a story. That in and by itself is also only a
story! I had trouble finishing it even for it does not really explain
anything. Like the mystery of the universe or so. To explain that - I would
like to start with explaining something a bit smaller first - the Apple
Seed...
Here is the explanation: It works!!
As you know mysteries cannot be explained in words, and possibly not without
them either, and all we can do is accept what is. This is kind of easy for
me somehow, for I usually do not read any writings that are older then fifty
years or so. Here is why - I feel that the answers we are looking for - are
not found in the past or the writings of the past. The answers are right in
front of us when we look into the mirror and see our reflection - we see our
Reflection! While in actuality - the actual thing reflected is a Reflection
itself. This Reflection (our body) is the Reflection of our own Infinite
Subconsciousness - it reflect itself as the manifested universe, known and
unknown, high and low, as well as in matter as human bodies. In the mean
time - it also *is* matter! For the IS to express itself is a natural thing
to do - it's as simple as being an Apple Seed! To be what is - is its
nature!
More here:
God or TIL is Creation (TIL is The Infinite Light)
TIL is equal to Creation - but it is Creation in a different form, the
Manifested Form.
So, Creation is TIL's reflection or manifestation. God or TIL is the all
embracing Infinite Subconsciusness and is the unmanifested. Since the nature
of the unmanifested is to express itself, it manifests itself. It does this
in order to know itself. It's a forever happening and all beings in creation
are aspects of this manifestation - reflecting TIL as it needs to be in
order to get to know itself...
TIL manifests itself into seemingly separate manifestations (an infinite
amount of beings and things) in order to make a game and/or puzzle of it. In
actuality there is no separation, for TIL embraces all things. The
manifestation literally "swims" within TIL. The manifestation "swims" in
the energy TIL is. TIL completely surrounds its manifestation for it all
takes place in the Mind TIL is. What I am saying here is that the whole
thing is a subjective thing - not objectively real - and our reality is a
self-created point of view. There is no objective reality. We all create our
own subjective reality and interpretations thereof...
Somehow we look at all this as a puzzle and search for answers to solve this
puzzle or to find our origin or whatever. Our origin does not lay in the
past. It is always hitting us in the face. It is all around us and is - the
IS - the Infinite Subconsciousness. Which we sort of like to divide and then
say, I have my own subsconsciousness. There is no such thing! It's all One!
At most we are specific aspects of this Oneness. Specific Eddie-Currents if
you like...
Because of the experiences we have as seemingly independent beings - we
become wiser and wiser. Eventually we see through the puzzle! When we get
the real hang of our visions and knowing, we see that all beings and things
are equals, for we all represent the IS We Are. The IS - is our Infinite
Subsconciousness. The Energy that embraces ALL - and is ALL - and is the
Energy or Universal Mind within which its manifestations are projections
that seemingly do not live within this Mind according to human beings,
because Mind is invisible to them at the moment...
Story Teller - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:10:40 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Thinking again...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
To all TriLiters...
Gerardus here:
I have been thinking again...
Question to all:
If the universe is all about Change
how can there be any Truth in it?
I think Change is the only Truth!
Except for what We Are naturally...
We are the Truth and the Reality but fall for stories and illusions.
---------------
Next thoughts
It's about admiration, adoration and praying.
If we as Human Souls belong to the Universal Family of Light and have older
and younger Soul-Brothers and Soul-Sisters in higher and lower densities,
while at the same time the Whole of Creation is God or the Self We Are - why
do we need to pray? We would end up praying to ourselves, or aspects of
ourselves. Kind of useless I figure...
All I can say is, that I believe in Service and Helping others. As far as I
can see (not very far), that's really what Life is all about - Service to
Others! I feel that is what our Helpers and Guides, Masters and Great
Masters are about also - Helping Others! After all, all we do is help our
own siblings in the Family of Light or TIL...
All that is left to say now is, that we need to respect others, for all
others are ourselves! Therefore, I do not see any use for prayers and/or
humbleness either. Are we supposed to be humble because we recognize the
Light or Christ within us? I feel that all this humbleness is a spoiled
leftover from the religions...
Alright, shoot me down or at least say something - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:45:06 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Truth and the Real...
I have some questions about the following though:
You say that -- "This illusory reality is a living conscious entity".
Could you explain that a bit more? What is it conscious about?
IOW: does it know anything and/or is it self-aware?
I see the illusionary reality as an expression of our subconscious mind that
automatically projects what we have put into this subconsciousness - with
our conscious thinking. IOW: we create our own collective reality by our
thoughts. These thoughts shape and form the energy available for that
purpose and shape/form what's we experience or see out there. In the mean
time, there really is no "out there" for all of it is within, and is,
the one mind we are...
I see "reality" any place, and on any plane of being, as the result of the
collective thought of the beings that exist on that plane. While in an by
itself the "reality" is the energy of mind or cosmic energy, that not
necessarily is conscious of being what it is. Examples: is the air conscious
of being air? Is a toaster conscious of being a toaster? Is my monitor
conscious of being a monitor. Do these things have awareness?
-----------------------------------
Gerardus here:
Yes, we differ a bit here.
I agree that "We Are The Living Truth" living in a human body and have
experiences in an illusionary reality, while at the same time the body we
live in, is also an illusion. It looks to me, that we are having a
waking-dream and experience certain happenings in this waking-dream from
which we draw certain conclusions. The dream is real - yes - but our
experiences are personal and we have personal perceptions, conclusions or
viewpoints about these happenings at this particular time. Maybe tomorrow we
think differently about what we experienced. IOW: we keep changing our mind
about the same, or certain occurrences, and we do this ten times say.
Question: which one was the truth? All or None?
All is personal perception I figure...
I do not think that there is any truth to be found - within the waking dream
we are living. All these experiences do, is bring us back to the "Truth We
Always Were" in the first place. We come to our True Self - by means of
illusions or no-truths so to speak. We find ourselves by means of dreaming!
That's why I say the world in which we live is a Lie, an Illusion. Nothing
in it is true or truth. It only looks that way...
--------------------------
Stefan here:
Dreams, Lessons, the Soul, all different truths, in my opinion.
Peace
Gerardus here:
Yes, I say this:
Dreams, Lessons, the Soul, are all different illusions to reach the Real.
The One We are - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:47:46 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Thinking again...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Hi Gerardus,
I have a story to tell. In the beginning, universal light was called
the
Father and the universal holographic time matrix was a floating energy
field
called the Mother. The Father was infinite consciousness, Infinite
experiments, infinite trials, infinite errors, infinite re-trials,
infinite triumphs, all within an infinite visionary mind. The Mother
was
not sure who she was. She was conscious, but mostly asleep, and when she
was
awake she was very lonely. The Mother had no idea she was a universal
holographic time matrix, she was just herself; an energy field floating in
the cosmos. It so happened that the Mother and the Father found each other
in the cosmos. When they made love the Mothers body ignited into myriads
of
cosmic creations. Each cosmic creation was endowed with a portion of the
Fathers light, and a portion of the Mothers multidimensional energy field.
Each cosmic creation was a Soul with a multidimensional energy body. Each
Soul was born out of the infinite consciousness of the Father and the
multidimensional energy of the Mother.
I believe that everything we experience is imbued with the
consciousness
of and energy of the Mother. All the matter of the universe in all the
dimensions is the body of the Mother, and it is all conscious. What
appears
to be external is our reflection on the energy field that is the Mother.
What is reflected back to us is the Mothers truth as she reads it from our
Soul. As Souls we cannot separate ourselves form our experience. Many
don't
want to take responsibility for what is reflected back and blame the
Mother.
I think it's a great delusion to believe that our experience is
meaningless. The stories that we fall for tells us who we are.
Peace,
Stefan
Nice story Stefan!
Stories are only stories though.
The last one I believed in was called
"Little Red Riding Hood". That was an odd 70 years ago...
Did I miss your answer to my question?
Here is the question again.
Gerardus here:
I have some questions about the following though:
You say that -- "This illusory reality is a living conscious entity".
Could you explain that a bit more? What is it conscious about?
IOW: does it know anything and/or is it self-aware?
Stefan here:
Yes, I believe the illusory multidimensional reality that we experience is
conscious, but it may a different type
of consciousness than the ego consciousness that human Souls experience.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I see what you mean.
I see this Energy (in which we swim) as our Infinite Subconsciousness in
which we "live" and have our being in such a way that we are projected out
of it as human beings and do not know that we live there and are really it!
IOW: we are unconscious that we live in our own Subconscious Mind (The
Universal Mind) but that what is "projected" from the IS - are the
manifested realities that form all planes of being and we find
ourselves in one of them - the 3D plane of earth...
All things that belong to the manifested aspects of the IS - have awareness
according to the needs of their beingness or activity. So, we live in a
conscious creation, that is/was manifested or projected from the Infinite
Subconsciousness (the IS) we all are in the first place. So within the "IS"
- we are all One. But in the manifested regions or planes we are many...
So I recognize two things/phenomenon that are each other:
1) The Infinite Subconsciousness - the IS - the Unmanifested which
is not self-aware or knows anything for that matter...
2) The Planes of Reality in which all Beings and Things have their
existence, which I call the Manifested and within which we all have
awareness according to our functions. Within the Manifested there are
different types of Beings who have different levels of awareness.
Some Beings are fully aware or conscious...
Naturally the second phenomenon is impossible without the first...
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Stefan here:
It is a dynamic responsive energy
field that is a reality in and of itself. We experience it as the world.
Others may experience it as something
completely different. It's beyond me to describe the nature of this
archetypal consciousness. I think It's for each of us
to discern it's nature directly.
Gerardus here:
Yes, agreed!
We all create from that Energy - the perceptions that "fit" our awareness
level. IOW: wherever we are - we experience our own creations. These
creations naturally are the collective result of the many or humanity...
Note:
I keep asking to clarify some of these things and questions, for I feel that
by doing this, you and I, and possible more than we two, are challenged to
our limits and it brings clarity to our expressions and thoughts.
Notwithstanding the fact however that all this takes place in an illusionary
reality - but I feel that it pushes us to the next higher level of awareness.
I hope that you don't mind...
So Be It - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 19:57:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: andrew pickens
Subject: [CropCircleConnection] Re: [Truth and Collective Consciousness
Reply-To: CropCircleConnection@yahoogroups.com
Gerardus....how eloquently spoken. Your level of awareness and consciousness
shines through your words. As a fellow light worker, your words resonate the
truth in my higher self. We are all things and all things are us. We are not
separate, but a part of the whole, part of the one. As connected beings to
the energy field that is the universe, what are thoughts of the individual,
are actually part of the mass/collective consciousness. As above, so below.
Keep up the good work.
Peace, Love, and Light, Namaste',
Andrew
Gerardus wrote:
At 05:59 PM 7/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hello, All...While I believe we all have our "own" truth, there is but one
real truth, that being universal truths which apply to all beings equally.
Everthing else is the person's "illusion," or their perception of their
reality. It may not apply to other's reality. So you may say there are many
"truths". Applied as the individual sees fit.
Andrew
Hello Andrew...
Yes, you are right! That's exactly what I said...
"The truth is that there is only individual truth - Gerardus"
It applies to all Beings equally!!
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In the case above, to what I said - you may add 'real' in front
of the first word truth. It becomes then:
"*** The real truth is that there is only individual truth ***" - Gerardus
Don't you think that i f there was a real truth, that would apply to all
beings, that someone would have caught on to it by now in all those billion
of years mankind has been on earth - and told the others? The human fallacy
is however, that he completely overlooks its own Greatness! Its own
Unlimitedness! He is deceived into believing that he is something that
needs to reach for greener pastures or better places. The point is, if we
are not able to appreciate where we are now - how can we possible be able to
appreciate the next place? Our awareness does not change by moving
somewhere else...
Where we are, or find ourselves, depends on the level of our awareness.
Higher awareness means - moving to different experiences and greater
understanding of our predicament. The predicament of being deluded by
religions, teachers of all kinds, and whatever else this world offers. What
is needed is "Awareness of Self" - who or what really are We? The practise
of rituals and or exercises is completely beyond what it needed to promote
ourselves. Do you think Buddha or Krishna or Lao-Tzu were doing rituals and
therefore understood what is? In the mean time, I do not say that rituals,
exercises and affirmations hinder our progress, but they certainly are not
needed for all...
Human Life as I see it is not about truth, real truth, or absolute truth. It
is about Ourselves! It is about the human condition and or predicament. It
is about human experiences in our creation - these experiences eventually
bring us back to the "Truth We Are" - WE ARE THE TRUTH - TIL - The Infinite
Light. Which descends into its own creation, and among many beings, becomes
human, to slowly climb back to its Infinite State of being ITSELF. That what
we always were in the first place...
At any one time, or no-time - nothing changed about us, except that we as
TIL dream our creation and live in it as the created. We li ve in it as
Mankind. We have become the figments of our own dream! While at all time we
are the Dreamer and the Dream - The Creator and the Created. They are the
same! God = Creation! All we need to do is awaken fully to this...
However, because of our position as the Created - or as the Effect of the
Cause We Are - we are almost unable to recognize our own Cause - The Creator
or Dreamer. We think/feel that we are some other force or being, that needs
to follow a certain teacher in order to get somewhere. Life is the Teacher
- Life lives us! It lives within. We can only catch on by listening to
ourselves....
Only one candle - Gerardus
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At 06:19 PM 7/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Olga:
>
>Olga wrote:
>
>> In my experience most folks don't understand the difference between an
>> "emotion" and a "feeling".... there is a BIG difference ... at least as I
>> have been taught ...
>>
>> There is only *one* emotion [energy in motion] ... that's LOVE, it's a
>> facet of ALL-THERE-IS .... when it hits the 3D curtain of duality, it
>> splits into 2 ... Love at one end, and its polar opposite *fear* at the
>> other ... both by the way, or motive powers... one positive the other
>> negative ...
>Alexander here:
>How can you characterize fear as negative? If a parent is fearful
>of a child getting hurt by playing in the street and moves them to
>the yard or sidewalk, is that fear negative?
>
>Is making one's mortgage payment, due to fear of losing one's
>home, negative?
>
>Is eating healthy and maintaining the body in fear of future
>sickness negative?
>Olga wrote:
>> FEELINGS on the other hand, are body generated responses, to whatever
>> situation we find ourselves ... feelings are *always* found IN the body...
>> the stomach/solar plexus ... the heart ... the crotch ... they *may* be
>> related to the chakras ... I've not read any test results on this ....
>>
>> When we *fall in love* it's ALWAYS a physical or physiological feeling in
>> the heart/crotch ... sometimes the response is only in the crotch.... then
>> its termed *lust* .. sometimes it's only in the heart ... then it's a
>> higher feeling of endearment, including compassion, empathy and caring....
>>
>> The different kinds of feeling FEAR engenders, is felt in the stomach ...
>> from the famous fight or flight syndrome, which is a hyped up adrenalin
>> rush...... [and includes tensed up muscles and heightened awareness] ... to
>> the minor petty fears as anger, jealousies, hurt, et cet....
>Alexander here:
>Interesting, when one is prudent in their affairs because of fear
>of the consequences of not being so, does that prudence manifest
>itself as tensed up muscles or some other effect in the body?
>Is fear the least common denominator .........or is it Desire?
>
>Alexander
Hi Olga/Alexander - Gerardus here:
I find that the concepts of Love versus Fear are so wide open and
individual, that they really cannot be put into words and listed as if they
belong in "Cubby-Holes" tucked away to be referred to later on...
What about the Love of a Father for his daughter who is extremely sick,
crippled and in terrible pain, begging him to end her life? Suppose he does
so - is that an act of violence or Love? Self-defence maybe because he
cannot stand to hear her moan all day?
How about the genuine love of a mother for her son who gives her chocolates
once in a while, while all along her son is a criminal for he sells dope to
children? How about a doctor who finally decides to O.D. his terminal
patient for he knows there is no way she or he can be cured?
Also, I feel that Emotions, Feelings, Attachments and Dependency become so
intermingled that no-one can really say - this is the way to look at this,
and what you are doing is an act of gross negligence of Free Will - because
you acted out of "what you thought was right" to take away the booze your
father relies upon to get through the day for he suffers from arthritis. The
booze will kill him, but so what?
Life to me is one big individual Puzzle and no-one can say: this is Love,
that is Attachment, this is Fear based, and this is Dependence, and this
over here is a lack of allowing free will for you interfered by pulling
these two people apart while both of them were ready to kill each other.
What we have been taught about what are "emotions" and what are "feelings"
are but second hand stories that very seldom apply to real situations. They
all are nonsense when the time arrives when WE have to make the decisions
now...
For example:
If there is only *one* emotion [energy in motion] ... that's LOVE, what is
the "feeling" I have for my brother who is sick and dying. Is that just a
"feeling" and NOT Love?
Olga says:
FEELINGS on the other hand, are body generated responses, to whatever
situation we find ourselves ... feelings are *always* found IN the body...
the stomach/solar plexus ... the heart ... the crotch ... they *may* be
related to the chakras ... I've not read any test results on this ....
If I feel and care for my brother who is sick - is that generated in my
crotch? All this to me in just not so - for all feelings are not
body-generated. Many of them are the Soul's characteristic and an eternal
part of us. It is what makes us Human - Human Gods. It's why we return to
earth to learn more and help others...
Life is an individual Thing and what we do as individuals
depends upon our feelings and our Soul-based characteristics.
Emotions are what we need to learn to control while at the same time
we must learn to nurture our feelings. Feelings are the Nectar of the Gods
upon which Creation is based and maintains itself...
We as Souls are Feeling Beings - Gerardus
(Souls have no crotches whatsoever)
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:54:29 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: Twin Suns (was Love thread)
Shawn here:
I think Stefan once posted he thought/believed, or someone believed,
or maybe he was just describing a theory of a Mother Father
relationship, when it comes to duality. i kinda think that it is more
of a brother sister thing, of One Thing.
Hi Shawn - Gerardus here:
There are many explanations of what is, how it began, or how it was put
together. My favorite one is that there is but One Energy. The NATURE of
this Energy, and all the qualities that can be discovered and utilized of
the Nature of this Energy - ranges from Zero to Infinity...
So, this One Energy has an infinite Spectrum of Differences and Diversity.
This in and by itself creates Duality for there is always better or worse
within all virtues or evils. Even if we all would move up ten steps on the
scale of awareness, there will always be people who are more aware than we
are, as well as those who would be less aware. There is always a higher and
a lower, a better and a worse - or what some people call - positive and
negative, or good and evil...
We as the Essence of Creation *are* the One Energy and its entire Spectrum
or Nature, while at this time, within the existence as a human being, we are
experiencing our way up the ladder of awareness in order to become conscious
of all the different ranges and natures contained within our total Spectrum
or Nature. We could even call all this - Love at Work - for it is the Love
of Self that makes us live as seemingly independent beings within, and of,
the One Energy We Actually Are...
Truth is Simple - Gerardus
(We are It)
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:31:43 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The Real and its Illusion...
The understanding that everything is illusive is not the final one. It is
an essential stage but only a stage. Ultimately you will understand that
the form and separateness of a thing are illusory, but the thing-in-itself
is not. That out of which these forms appear is not different from them,
hence Reality is one and the same in all things. This is the paradox of
life and a sharp mind is needed to perceive it. However, to bring beginners
out of their earthly attachments, we have to teach first the illusoriness
of the world, and then raise them to a higher level of understanding and
show that the world is not apart from the Real. That Thou Art unifies
everything in essence.
But this final realization cannot be got by stilling the mind, only by
awakening it into full vigour again after yogic peace has been attained and
then letting its activity cease of its own accord when thought merges
voluntarily into insight. When that is done, you know the limitations of
both yoga and enquiry as successive stages. Whoever realizes this truth
does not divorce from matter--as most yogis do--but realizes non-difference
from it. Hence we call this highest path the "yoga of nonduality." But to
reach it one has to pass through the "yoga of philosophical knowledge."
Christian Science caught glimpses of the higher truth but Mrs. Eddy got her
facts and fancies confused together. - - Paul Brunton
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:40:30 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Gerardian Holographic Thinking...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
To All...
I think our Sun is a Holographic Lens or Gate gathering or reflecting "The
Infinite Light" and produces the illusion of Holographic-Solar planets,
including a holographic illusion of our world and everything on it. IOW: we
are all aspects of a Solar-World-Hologram which is maintained by TIL. This
Solar-World-Hologram produces the holographic illusions that are the Real in
the forms we as TIL create it to be, according to our thoughts and beliefs...
Since TIL lives within us, and is us - any changes in the world, and within
us, are introduced and produced by our thoughts, according to the level of
TIL We Are. These energies reflect or shine through the Sun - the
Holographic Gate. It's an instant feedback system that creates and maintains
the reality or illusion we create, are, and take for real...
At all times, the holograms we are - are the direct results of our Thoughts
and Ideas - translated into the day to day reality we experience. All this
takes place in our Universal Mind - The Self - while our physicality is but
a temporary reality or illusion in order to give ourselves puzzles of
enormous proportions and in holographic expressions...
By means of Holography it is easy to "split" the world into three
holographic worlds, for all that is done - is insert three holographic
Filters or Gates between TIL and the Sun. Voila - three worlds arise
according to the Frequency, Light or Awareness needed, to be occupied by
those of the same levels...
Holographic Thoughts Anyone? - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:48:53 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Creation and its Play...
Creation and its Plays ...
We as Souls or Gods create a certain "Play in Mind" and then we send our
human-body-representatives into that "dream" and see how it all works out.
Naturally the dream is real for these human representatives! Changes are
made by means of inspiring the humans, but in general the plan is followed.
It means that we as human beings might think that we create our own reality,
but in actuality, that reality is pretty well determined by the Souls or
Gods we are who dreamt up the Play in general in the first place...
Yes, implementation or changes are made by the characters (us) who have
incarnated to change certain things, but at the same time, there are Souls
here to enforce the Play as originally planned. This creates the so called
Good Guy versus Bad Guy scenario. Naturally we all play our role as planned,
and no Guy or Girl is really bad or good. On top of this, very few see
through all this. The only thing we truly create are our responses/reactions
to what we perceive and the attitudes we develop from these perceived
experiences...
And yes, all of us also create our own version of the Play entirely, for we
are independent perceivers/creators of an illusion that we create as a
reality and accept as real. Which is truly our own self-created reality!
No perceiver is really right or wrong, for all perceivers are distorted and
limited in scope according to their awareness level. Naturally, seeing
through the Play or Plan helps a lot for those who do. Most likely they
become Observers. The Play is what counts, not what humans think or feel
about it. Humans opinions are but temporary human views and limited by the
lack of full awareness...
Thinking I am seeing something - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:24:34 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Observer stuff
Hello Gail, Aryeh and All...
I have thought about the above a lot as well and up to now I have
come up with this. Be my Guest - http://www.soulwise.net/25f-top.htm
In the mean time...
I see Life as a Cosmic Play or Performance that takes ages and ages to go
through very long cycles that are all different. In the mean time, we as
human beings are actors who play our part and we all have a certain script.
Our trouble is, that the script or lines we speak, we regard as our personal
truth and we often begin to defend or promote it. Next lifetime our script
or lines and truth are different again! All this means, that the lines we
accept as our personal truth in a certain lifetime have nothing to do with
the "Cosmic Truth We Are" before we started this Cosmic Performance or Play...
Almost everything of the cosmic performance has been arranged by those who
run the Play. These beings are ourselves on a higher level. They preside on
a higher level than we as human beings find ourselves. The higher beings we
are have complete control on what will be played or not. This means that we
as human beings are not here to correct all the other actors or those who do
not agree with us. Also, there is no need to mention to them - you did not
play that very well! Our task is to see through the Game or Play! We are
not here to direct or change it, unless our very Soul steers us to do so.
This to me means - observe - go within and smile...
Hope this helps - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:08:01 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: All is Connected...
Hi Lui...
Truth is an individual thing!
What one calls "horse feathers" someone else may choose to die for! Who
knows. One thing for sure, we are all mental beings more so than physical
beings. Our mind is the universal mind. There is but One Mind in the first
place - and who is to say that we do not produce these Crop Circles just by
the power of our own mind or imagination reflected from a subconsciousness
that is our own. We are not aware of thousands of things that happen in our
own body for example - let alone that we MUST, or can be, aware of what is
happening in a holographic illusion we call our earth...
Walking in the dessert and being thirsty produces mirages of beautiful lakes
and water. Who is to say that our subconsciousness is not producing some of
these Crop Circles? This could even happen by means of other beings - who in
and by themselves - are not really other Beings within a Mind that is One.
Our very longings or thoughts might drive them to produce what they think we
need. There are also billions of Fairies and/or little people. Remember
Findhorn??? All Beings are working towards moving up. Could this mean that
others are helping many while many help others again in ways we can nor
possibly understand...
I feel that it really does not matter who produces Crop-Circles as long as
they have the effect of changing our thinking and possibly our DNA levels.
As I see it - all things change all things in a universe that has but One
Mind. Kick a rock and you have changed the universe - think a thought and
your neighbor thinks differently...
Yes, and then there is the Secret Government thinking that they can stop or
curtain Human Awareness - what a ridiculous idea. Can say 10,000 people STOP
the universe from evolving? Absolutely not! If that was so - not one would
be on this list. Or on any list for that matter...
All is Connected! - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:25:13 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Speed of Light - plus or minus...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
To All...
I remember reading about scientists measuring the speed of light some years
ago and all of them came up with a different answer. There were about six
or seven of them. They were close with their answers but no two of them
came up with the same answer. All this means, that we really do not know
what the speed of light is. We only know it approximately. Upon this
approximation are built the laws of our sciences - kind of shaky I figure...
Also, the reality we live in is an illusion and what we measure in this
reality and express in physical quantities and/or measurements are
illusions. IOW: The very spectrum of frequencies we perceive as light
(colors) do not really exist as we perceive them, for the whole physical
manifestation is an illusion. We are fooling ourselves...
Most likely the light we see and experience from Stars, Suns or the Moon
are radiating vibrations (auras) or reflections of the Beings or Energies
we are connected to in Mind - since the Whole of Creation is a mental
phenomenon. Again, what we think we see and visit (the Moon) are specific
vibrations of our own Mind. It IS us in the first place...
Physical reality is a show and an experience that is equal to a virtual
experience and one of the most "crafty" we could possibly think of. The
fact that we live in physical reality and accept it as real is an even a
greater accomplishment. It's our body and our senses that give it realness!
That is why I say: Life is a CELEBRATION of the Creator living as the
Created!
At the moment, we as Souls live in what we call human bodies and because of
all this we assume to be human beings. Naturally our assumption is wrong -
we are Mental or Spiritual Beings or Energy-Vibrations super-imposing
ourselves upon a vibration we call our body. The human body - beautiful as
it is - is not what it looks like at all. What we perceive is a
"Reflection of our Soul in Matter" - certain aspect of our Soul seem to
dwell in the physical and when we look at it - it looks like our body...
To repeat here:
In actuality, we as a human-souls superimpose our soul-vibrations upon the
vibrations that makes up our bodies and since we do this from birth we
think we live in these bodies. Not so - for there are no such things!
There is no objective reality - we only think there is. To see through all
this helps to understand that we all live in mind only - we live or exist
in the One Mind We All Are. Nothing is beyond that Mind...
When we as Souls incarnate and go to earth so to speak - all we do is adopt
mental vibrations that fool us into believing that we move to earth, or
wherever. In actuality we do not move one physical inch. Our mind is a
magician a million time better than David Copperfield...
Any comments? - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 10:55:33 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Soak it up... Read the comments...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 04:28 PM 9/2/2002 +0000, you wrote:
In TriLite@y..., FI575land@a... wrote:
In a message dated 8/31/2002 2:25:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gerardus@o... writes:
1) Join the thieves and liars
2) Oppose them by whatever works
3) Observe the show
I took the last one!
This does not mean that an Observer is neutral or does not do
anything. The very presence of the Observer and the frequency/energy
held - helps those of nobler thoughts. It is a fact of Life that we
all attract our own kind of companions. They very well might not
exist in 3D anymore for some of us...
Only one Candle - Gerardus
Hi Gerardus:
I could not agree with you more here. There is really no point in
>fighting forces that are completely natural, when one sees the BIG
>picture. They exist and they do what they do because that is the role
>they play in this all encompassing drama.
>
>Jojo: What exactly is the BIG picture, according to Fred?
Hello Jojo...
I think Fred will respond in time - but for now - MY BIG picture is here:
http://www.soulwise.net/25a-tgs.htm
http://www.soulwise.net/25whatis.htm
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> > If one wishes to join the thieves and liars, then probably that is
>their natural place as well. Again, all a part of the grand lesson
>matrix.
>
>Jojo: It is a CHOICE, not a wish. Whether it is natural or not.
Gerardus here:
Yes, it is a choice. But a wish to do something is also a choice - No?
---------------------------------------------
I too have chosen option #3. While much of what happens here
bothers me to no end, there is little or nothing that I could
possibly ever do to change it. And just knowing that makes it much
easier to take and to accept. All there is is lessons...
Fred
Jojo: I find it sad that people see themselves as being so helpless.
There are literally millions upon millions of people who are
observers, and they consciously make the choice to observe whether or
not they consciously are aware of the bigger picture. Which is
exactly what the "powers that be" need to keep and further their
agenda, people thinking they can't change anything and therefore
don't even try.
Gerardus here:
I think there is a difference.
1) There are billions of people who are indifferent and maybe even ignorant
of what really goes on because they are busy with their own affairs,
maintenance and/or the endeavors of making a living or just feeding
themselves. They do not really observe much of anything... (This might be
sad to you but that is the way things are)
2) Then there are people who have figured out what goes on and "see through"
the game that is being played on this planet in 3D. It is being played FOR
those who are "not aware" and the very "Lies and Deceit" they go through,
endure or suffer is supposed to "awaken" them. Some do and some don't...
Let's put it this way - do you see the Dalai Lama showing up in a protest
line? Is he carrying signs and is he out there protesting? Naturally he is
not for he knows better. Do you see the Pope and/or his Cardinals show up?
Do you see God show up? Same thing. The pope and his helpers might be the
very ones who are causing some of all this in the first place. They control
this world by their religion. They are NOT neutral. They are basically egos
holding power...
Now, to some people, group 1 and group 2 are both observers. But as I
pointed out, they observe from different levels of awareness. The first
groups "observes" because of a lack of awareness and the second group
"observes" because they are above and beyond the quibbling of the immature.
They understand (love) and let them be. The immature are set free to
experience what they must. The awareness level or frequency of the second
groups helps to make others become aware as well. It raises the collective
awareness level! This is why Great Beings like Sai Baba, Babaji and many
others stay on earth or return quickly, for their very presence raises the
frequency of all of us...
Simple - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 11:20:01 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [svpvril] No wonder the bible is right on...
Reply-To: svpvril@yahoogroups.com
To all Listers...
The bible and other so called holy books were written in the past by people
who were inspired. Holy Books freaks say that their books were inspired by
God. This naturally is nonsense. They were inspired by 4D and/or 5D Density
Beings. These Beings did not die or disappear! They are the Beings who are
presently in control of this world and they are in the process of making
sure that what is said in these holy books is fulfilled as prophecy...
Naturally it is!
These 4D/5D Beings are able to go back and forth in Time, and they are in
charge of this earth by means of the people they inspire nowadays. These
people are the Leaders of the world. The Bushes, the Saddams, the Prime
Ministers, the Kings and Queens of any and all countries, and all those who
rule this 3D world. Naturally they are "The Illuminati", for they all make
up the Overseeing Shadow Government of our 3D World. The NWO!
In short here they are: The United Nations, the World Bank and all other
Banks, the Stock Market, the Religions and the Politicians, etc etc. They
have the "plan" for this world. The plan is followed as written in the
bible and other so called holy books. All this makes a beautiful reason for
religious people to say: Our Holy Book is God's Word because it all has
come true. Which it has in the past more or less...
Prophecy Fulfilled - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 14:55:47 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] STS-STO
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 02:39 PM 9/2/2002 -0400, you wrote:
floyd here :
I spent about a week trying to define STS and STO. I finally put it into the
Acronym Finder---- both STS and STO, and came up with the answer. Then I
tried practicing STO for that was a worthy goal it seemed to me, but the
more I gave myself to others , the more I got. I know this isn't earth
shattering, but it was a lesson well learned by myself.
Another thing I learned was to realize that I was soul with a body and
that I did not have a soul. I am soul. I'm using the word soul here
because it is comfortable for me. As you know there are many names for
it. Sometimes I really get bogged down with names --- when in the final
analysis --- it doesn't matter anyway
I'm through rambling. floyd
Hello Floyd...
You said you took a week to define STS and STO.
What did you come up with?
YES! You are a Soul and live in a human body with no legs.
That my friend - takes Courage... and lots of it!
In the mean time, I'll try to do define STS and STO as well - right now. To
be STS (Service To Self) is very easy. All you do is take! Then take some
more. And make sure that you do everything calculated in such a way that you
are number ONE! Do it ALL for you!! Easy!!
To be STO (Service To Others) is more difficult. As a matter of fact, it is
extremely difficult. Because of many reasons - and I will give just a few.
Helping or being of service to others is not always STO. Here is an example:
People around where I live are all retired and older. Many have next to
nothing to do and are bored. So what do they do? They go out and volunteer...
They volunteer for Kiwanis, for Big Brothers and Sisters, for the Salvation
Army and other organizations. Some of these organization collect old
furniture, old cloths, and other things. All they collect is sold for next
to nothing and/or given away. When these volunteers come home at night they
feel quite smug because they have been out helping others all day. Really?
Ask yourself again - really? Remember why they went out to those
Organizations in the first place?
They were bored - so, what did they really do? They served themselves by
volunteering! They feel good about themselves because they were occupied
with the idea of doing stuff for others BECAUSE they were bored anyway. All
that is Self Service! Also, it gives them a feeling that they are MORE than
others because they help others all the time...
Other people, mostly younger are members of the Fire Department (It's all
volunteers here in Oliver (Small town). Once in a while they is a fire and
the volunteers go and out and extinguish it and possibly save people or the
cat. They come home and feel really good, because they "think" they did
something for others. Did they? Is it possible that they became volunteers
in order to be smug about themselves? Is it an ego thing to be a volunteer?
All Service to Self...
Same thing with me - Gerardus.
Why do I have this List and post on some others? Well, I have nothing
else to do and it gives me a challenge...
I do it for two reasons:
1) I do what I want to do and it keeps me busy.
2) Spread some Light and try to answer questions.
On top of this...
I cannot be sure whether or not my "help" is really of any help to others.
Is what I say of everlasting value to them?? Or did I give them my thoughts
of the moment and confused them? Why do they leave the list? See how
difficult it is to be STO?
As I understand it at this moment, we on this planet cannot be STO in the
first place because as long as we "eat" we take and this makes us STS. At
most, we can begin to think about STO (Candidate) and possibly in 4D we
might be able to become STO after a training of 500 years...
Let's hear from you - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 16:06:08 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Soak it up... Read the comments...
Jojo: So are the Dalai Lama and others of his awareness level master
observers? I don't think so. Dalai Lama DOES things to help shift the
collective awareness level; writes books, gives lectures, and quietly
meets with some government leaders. (In a Zen warrior kind of way?)
But people like that don't use force to bring about any shift. They
do so by NOT just accepting the status quo, and in their own PEACEFUL
ways offer people another perspective. But they don't just do nothing!
Gerardus here:
All the shifting and all the help from whoever is helping only to change
things in a very minor way. Everybody loves peace - how come we had
something like 3000 wars in 2000 years? Ignorant people fight! They
call it an honour to die for their country. This is brainwashed into them.
They have patriotism. They love the piece of mud they live on...
This planet is controlled by certain forces and there is a plan. This plan
is put in place in order to give us experiences and makes choices derived
out of that. One is to see through the plan and quit playing the game of
participation. How can one ever move up to 4D while one is still engaged
in emotional issues??
It's like this - 1000 protesters call up 100 police men. 10,000 protesters
call up 1000 police men. etc etc. There's always an equal force on the other
side. Either by means of bullets or by pepper sprayers. I do not say do
nothing and watch IS for everybody. But I do say that when everybody has
reached the level of awareness I have and Fred has - there would be nobody
in military uniform. No war machine. The higher our level of awareness the
higher our level of peace...
Within and without - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 17:05:08 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Soak it up... Read the comments...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Jojo here:
Well put, Roger. What good does it do to be aware of the game if all
you're going to do is watch it, thereby not having much effect on
that game in any way?
Hi Jojo - Gerardus here:
You are reasoning here strictly from a 3D point of view. Consciousness or
awareness does not function on that level only! Let's keep this awareness to
the mind of humanity for now or the collective human mind or awareness. This
means to me that the more observers there are, the shorter the war or fight.
Because the level of Awareness of the Observer raises the level of all other
fighting-awarenesses a tiny bit. If all people were an observer with the
level of awareness I speak from - there would be no war at all...
Wars or misery is created by those who live off it! Some are 3D human
beings and others are 4D 5D Beings. They live off emotional energies. 4D
and 5D Beings inspire (read possess) human beings from level we cannot see.
If that level of negativity was not there, the world would be in peace
continually. These Beings are a natural aspect of Life (of the One Mind)
and they have influences over the 3D world. They rule it at this moment and
they have for a long time. They rule in such a way that it is to their own
benefit only. They steal our energies, they steak our cattle (mutilations)
and possibly they steal our children. They keep us like we keep chickens...
In the mean time, we as human Souls have come here to EXPERIENCE the human
condition. We come here for the Experience! We come here for the
experience only!! Not to improve the Place!! These experiences include
War, times of Peace, times of hunger, times of plenty. All kinds of lives
and all kinds of experiences. So some of us come to fight with weapons,
others with words and then there are a few who say - I have seen what all
this means and I am ready to Observe all this from the level of
Understanding I am at now. This does not make them better or worse than any
other human being - only different...
So, when some human beings see through all this, they put down their
weapons, they put down their interests or commitment to either side. They
know that in wars there are only losers! No one wins but the beings who
instilled or inspire war or fights by means of possessing the leaders of the
people on both side...
Certain human beings give/loan money to both side so that they can buy their
weapons. Where do you think Hitler got his money from? The country was
broke when he appeared. Hitler got his money from the USA Banks or World
Bank. Grandfather of GWBush was instrumental in this! There is but one
wallet on earth and it is theirs. It makes us live, it makes us starve...
Observing is not doing nothing "is" what you said I think in some other
post. I agree! It is supplying "understanding" to others via the collective
mind of humanity by means of osmosis or mutual induction or telepathy in a
very subtle way...
It is not easy to be an observer - Gerardus
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 18:44:42 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: No wonder the bible is right on...
Jojo here:
Hehehe, I think some of those plans are being waylayed by people that
know those prophecies do not HAVE to come true.
Hi Jojo - Gerardus here:
Yes, exactly! That is my point.
Changes are made due to the interference of other forces. This is fine!
There is no good or bad anyway and as long as we are having experiences that
teach us that we create our own reality - that is the clue. That is what we
are here for and are having these experiences for...
What do we put in front of us? What do we visualize? A certain reality -
self created. This means if you align with a certain side or force - that's
what you put in front of you or create. Why do this? Why not create
something beyond the 3D scenario? Mind has many dimensions or scenarios.
The higher one goes, the more the enjoyment...
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Jojo here:
Each day that the
powers that be try to make them come true, the more people are
saying, "NO! That is not how it has to be on this planet!" And some
of those people are doing things differently, seeking out and
implementing solutions to create a whole different paradigm.
Gerardus here:
Indeed! So, why not do something completely different and totally beyond
this 3D reality! It means withdrawal from what is occupying our mind. The
sandbox stuff! This planet is a certain classroom somewhere in the One
Mind, in which we all eventually learn that we are the Creator. We do not
have to improve the school we are in now! It is fine the way it is and has
been for ages and ages.
There is nothing to fix! So, why fool around in a
mud-pie-scenario fighting for the next bucket, or piece of mud, when you can
float in delight creating castles of energy that are brilliant and last
forever? Beats me. Up up up and away...
Castle Owner - Gerardus
Note:
I think it's attachment that keeps us thinking that we need to improve what
we have got. What for? Pitch the attachment and one is free!
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:32:43 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Physical Reality...
Physical reality (that what we see in the world) is actually a vibration
mass of energy with a specific frequency and pattern - some call this
pattern a holographic one. It's like a swirling "colored mist" within which
we only see what's happening now...
The body we live in "translates" this vibrating mass into what we experience
or see. ONLY because we live in this one particular body are we able to
make sense of what's out there. What we see though, is NOT out there!!
We all create our own reality when we look at this vibrating mass of energy.
This is why different people see different things and or happenings. There
is a general collective agreement between contemporaries however - but not a
precise one. Each different time and space has its own frequency and
specific pattern - meanwhile ALL vibrations are existing at ALL times.
Traveling back and forwards in Time is really a misnomer for one does not
have to travel anywhere. It is all RIGHT here! All one needs to do is
changes states of mind / or filters...
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:35:13 -0700
To: svpvril@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [svpvril] Eureka - One Nuetral Energy...
Reply-To: svpvril@yahoogroups.com
At 03:47 PM 9/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Eureka! Gerardus! Nuetral Energy! The ONE! molding portions of itself
as it were into concepts! That is the only reality! Concepts.... Revolving
around the Central Mind! Every
Thought a real portion of the ONE!
Love, Light, and Healing, John McGrath
Yes, thank you John.
I see all things as aspects of the One Energy. I have no concept of
revolving around the Central Mind however. Is there a central in a no-space
mind? I am not sure but I do not think so. The whole thing is so beyond
thought that I cannot think of it. The One Mind's manifestations are
thoughts or concepts - but the Source I can only see or fathom as the
Enabler of Thought. I do not think it thinks about things itself. It just IS
or does them! It is the miracle we cannot touch. It's nature is to cycle
from "next to nothingness" to "The One Totality". It evolves of self-happens
again and again...
I might have written some of all that in the following. Not sure whether or
not I showed this article here before or not. In any case here it is:
http://www.soulwise.net/25l-poc.htm
I feel that each and everyone of us, begins a Journey in Time as the tiniest
wavicle we can think of, and then grow in size, importance, awareness and
greatness, to eventually join "that" what we have created in our own
individual mind - we become our Self so to speak! This Self is nothing less
but the All Inclusive One Energy We Always were in the first place. We had
left this Oneness temporarily in order to have new experiences - which
enrich the Totality we All Are. In order to experience and collect this
"enrichment" we have travel companions (equals) to make all this possible...
Mind thinking - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:50:20 -0700
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The world is our Mirror...
Gerardus here:
If you want Peace in the world - be Peaceful.
The world in which we live in is a reflection of our own Inner State of
Being. What we are within we project without! We cannot project our state
of mind to create the world or environment for others. All things begin
within - for all of us!
And yes, I would also interfere when I see rape, murder, sabotage cities or
take advantage of people if this would happen in my front lawn. It does not
- because my environment reflects my state of mind. That's what I have
created for myself and/or have attracted for myself...
However, if I begin to look what's going on in the World of Politics (the
world of lies) and other places, I am sure that I will see rape, murder, the
sabotaging of cities and/or people taking advantage of other people. As
soon as I see this as wrong or something that should be different - I have
made a judgment! And when I oppose that and/or interfere with that - I have
joined the rapists, murderers and the warmongers. Like attracts like...
Also, as soon as I judge that this is right and this is wrong - I project my
judgment upon the world. If I judge something as wrong - the world out
there will reflect what I see as wrong. We create the world with our mind in
our mind - we are our world and our world is us.
The world is our mirror! If we see something that some call "wrong" in the
world - there is something "wrong" within us. The world reflects what's
wrong within ourselves. IOW: we figure that things should be different. It
means, we have not accepted what is! If we protest or attack the world out
there - we attack the world within us. There is only mind and the
illusionary world out there is a world that exist in our own mind. This mind
of ours could be polluted with thoughts that tell us that something needs to
be done. It's a judgment that proves that we have not accepted what is! We
figure that something needs to be fixed...
Now, the above is what I feel to be so! It also means that whatever others
do is fine with me for I accept the way others are, behave and act or react.
We could even say that there are many world out there. There need to be -
for all of us come to experience different things and sceneries...
I trust the Universe I live in and am - Gerardus
(Souls leave no footprints)
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:58:16 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] free will
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 10:53 AM 9/23/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Gerard here:
As I read many emails in which is talked about "free will" I would like to
ask Gerardus where he dealt with this subject in his writings.
Doing astrology and having studied the subject of "free will" for many
years I came to the conclusion that "free will" is very limited in our relative life,
so I would like to read more about your vision regarding this subject.
Regards gerard
Gerardus here:
A vision it is, but just regard it as a wild imagination for now. In any
case, here it is: I cannot say for sure that I have written a specific essay
on Free Will. I might have mentioned free will here and there, as well as in
some of my previous posts.
Here are my thoughts on it for now:
1)
As a human being our free will is limited. We cannot grow ten inches over
night for example or just to reach something on a higher shelf. Might come
in handy to do my roof for example. There is one thing that is absolutely
free however and that is the attitude we adopt in all situations. That is a
LOT of freedom!! As we know this varies quite a bit among people. I feel
that the more knowledgeable we become the "easier" we go through life.
I think this has to do with the knowing that in the end all is well - whatever
we do. In the mean time, by means of our different lifetimes - we can just
about be anybody we might want to be. These choices however are made from
our Soul Level. As human beings we are instruments of our Soul - Servants if
you like...
2)
As a Soul Being however, we have a lot more freedom and this is expressed in
the instruments (humans) we have as our representatives existing in other
realities than we as a Soul find ourselves (Saying this does not mean that
there is more than one local or Mind). Instruments like human beings can go
where we as Souls cannot go and therefore we have the free will to explore
these regions and express energies of ourselves into other realities by
means of these instruments, be they physical or otherwise. Souldom them
has more freedom than humanness. Souldom is about learning and or exploring
our Creation...
3)
The further we come along in our creative journey through our Creation, the
more we will be able to express our free will and do more and more things to
fulfill our curiosity and accepted functions as a Soul Being, which might be
the fulfilling of certain commitments we have made with other SoulBeings or
Entities. This might include creating specific kinds of planets and or
situations where we can explore and express our creativity...
4)
From there on in we come into the creating of Solar Systems and or Galaxies
and whatever else is necessary and desirable in order to expand upon
Creation as a Whole...
5)
In the mean time, as a Soul Being we might accept certain contracts for
example and they could be the incarnation of ourselves unto certain planets
in order to help the beings living there. These incarnations are not
necessarily the Krishnas and the Buddhas, but they could be the Einsteins
and other great scientists and or discoverers we know from the past. They
come when the population (race) is ready to receive them, or needs to be
changed into a specific direction or thinking. Our world is guided and
controlled from higher densities or dimensions. This kind of means that we
as human beings just live here and gather knowledge/wisdom for our Soul
Being. In the end we are this Soul or Spiritual Being...
Note:
I see total freedom by means of the positions we hold in the universal game
we play as Spiritual Beings. These Beings, by the way, I see as specific
aspects of the Creator, who in and by itself never appears but is present as
the Inner Creativity within the Spiritual Beings that "move" the universe.
Total freedom is being able to help others anytime, any space, any planet,
and galaxy, any universe. No doubt there must be billions. All others are
ourselves in different form...
Never unemployed - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:16:36 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Life is Enormously Complex
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 12:03 PM 9/28/2002 -0600, you wrote:
On Friday, 9/27/02, I got this note from TriLite@yahoogroups.com:
(Quote)
Yes, the reptilians, the greys, the blonds, the mantis beings, and all those
who make up our companions and/or our so called adversaries are needed in
order to make a universe. It is a Game with endless changes and varieties
and somehow all of us fit in order to provide the opportunity to slowly
climb back to our highest level of awareness. Lately I have come to the
conclusion also, that there really is nothing "bad" out there. All Beings
function according to their orientation. This might not be liked very much
when beings are on the receiving end. Like the chickens or lettuce are for
us for example. Also if there is nothing "bad" out there - there also is
nothing "good". Hard to get used to that somehow. I figure it is all as it
should be and good in order to experience. God saw that it was Good!
Life is enormously complex - Gerardus
(End Quote)
Hi Gerardus - Roger here:
Thank you for that nice articulation of universal life. It seems that way
to me as well. I believe we are surrounded by "alien" life of all kinds -
some of it looks like the rest of us it seems. As you say, life is
enormously complex, and it is also infinitely various and infinitely
changeable, mutating in all sorts of ways beyond my ken or any hope of
total comprehension.
As I see it, the concepts of "good" and "bad" or "evil" are part of the
duality of our existence. What we like, or believe we should like, or
think that "God" likes or whatever, we call "good." But then as soon as one
posits the term "good" it is not even understandable unless there is a
corresponding "bad." So it goes.
Hello Roger - Gerardus here:
I have not seen any posts from you lately. I wondered where you were. And
Voila - here you are!
As I mentioned above -(Lately I have come to the conclusion also, that
there really is nothing "bad" out there)- if we could just forget about
"good" and "bad" altogether, we would in essence have overcome duality. I
am not sure whether or not that is the "all" of it, but I figure that the
worst portion of it would have disappeared. It would mean that we see all
other beings as our equals and also as necessary and essential aspects of
creation (they become us so to speak). This might even help to lose our
fear of those we do not know or have never met. Like the Reptilians for
example. What do you think about that??
-------------------------------
Roger here:
Because our language is based in describing those phenomena bonded by time
and space (the continuum) we have a really difficult time comprehending,
let alone discussing, those things which are not bound by the space-time
continuum.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I agree that by discussing things beyond time, the vernacular might
have to be revised a bit here and there (including our minds nomdoubt). I
compare it to standing in a room with a Million Monitors which each in turn
display a different reality. Now, if I wanted to see or experience a
certain reality - I would look at a certain monitor and that "scene" would
automatically take over my entire being. In other words I would be there!
Once I have seen or experienced enough - I wish myself back into the
Million Monitor room again and try something else. Kind of works like -
what do you want to imagine or think about?
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Roger here:
Our Spirit may be capable of understanding that which is beyond space and
time, but our material self cannot really comprehend it in reality,
although we do have very fertile imagination and fantasy lives. Sometimes
we catch a glimmer of that which in which all things participate, but it is
only a partial view. The "Bagavad Gita" and the Judeo Christian Bible
point out that if we did indeed see the totality of reality, we would be so
overwhelmed as to not be able to maintain our human form.
Gerardus here:
Yeah, I agree, one scene at the time is hard enough sometimes. Especially
when you just spilled your wine all over someone's dress. Even doing it
over a neutral carpet is bad enough...
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Roger here:
Therefore we are
left with the wisdom of the pioneers who have said only one thing is
necessary, "to love." As many have noted, we need a certain amount of
knowledge to love, but knowledge is a function of being. In other words,
the thing known is in the knower according to the mode of the knower, so
therefore we do have that limitation and are therefore left with faith
where knowledge fails.
Gerardus here:
Yeah, I like to call that kind of faith "trust". Faith to me is a bit iffy.
--------------------------
Roger here:
But love has no limitations, transcends time and space, defies definition
but elicits participation and is therefore the key to being and the
motivation of all comprehensive, holistic, creative doing.
Love to me is Understanding. This kinds of fits in with he abolishment of
"good" and "evil" come to think of it. I feel that going beyond "duality"
is the thing to do. By means of Love/Understanding this will we possible...
Need to work on that some more - Gerardus
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 12:31:16 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Confession time...
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Hello TriLiters...
The other day Ellen and I had a discussion.
Yes, it happens often and I do not always win either...
Now, to the point: during this discussion I noticed that I am always
foremost on Ellen's mind. IOW: she will always think/feel first what I will
think about certain things and/or how I will be affected by what she does.
So, I said to her:
From what you say I conclude that - I am foremost on your mind!
Yes! She said, you are - always have been...
Anyway, then I said, well, I am sorry to say that you are not foremost on my
mind. You are third so to speak.
1) Foremost are my Pages, TriLite and the Cookie List - my "work" so to speak.
2) Then it is myself.
3) Then you.
4) Then the children and the rest of the world...
I cannot say what the percentages are precisely but they might be 50/24/24/2
or so. Ellen accepted what I said with great composure and coolness and then
she said: I already knew what you just told me. I have read your Numerology
Charts and anything else that pertains to you. Your news is no news to me...
Anyhow, I thought that "what is foremost on your mind" would be a good
question to ask on TriLite and discuss...
So here it is:
What is foremost on your mind?
Feel free to be silent - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 10:18:07 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] What would a wise man do?
Peace to All...
Consider this:
The story goes that a man called Jesus The Christ was crucified and died.
Now read this!
The same story is playing itself out at this very minute!
This time however, it is not a person who is nailed to the cross but it is
the entire world! The crucifiers are GWBush, his Cabal and all those above
it and below it...
What is happening in the world today is exactly the same as what happened in
the story about Jesus. What did this Jesus do? Did he protest? Did he
speak in anger? Did he swing his arms around and shouted you guys are crazy?
The story goes that he was slaughtered like a lamb...
Why didn't Jesus do something? He did not do anything because he was a wise
man! A wise man has no attachment to his body and he has no attachment to
the world. IOW: he just lets things takes place for he knows that one cannot
reason with insanity and/or possessed beings. He accepts his lot so to speak
and is at Peace...
Note:
I do not believe in the story about Jesus. I feel that the story is a
symbolic one. All these stories and happenings of the past are symbolic
events... We must learn from it today - Gerardus.
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Gerardus here:
What Jesus said or did not say we cannot really know for sure. It might have
been Krishna or some other Great One who said these words before him. Or even
someone so far removed from human history that it becomes useless to debate
or discuss. Yet, there seems to be something deeply true about these words
that linger in the human psyche and spurs us on to ponder the thoughts
behind these concepts. I feel that somehow we have to find our own words and
make them true to ourselves based upon our experiences. Besides all this, I
feel that "We Are The Truth" and our words are but the descriptions of our
experiences in order to share what we think we know...
Then:
A list is basically a world on its own - it also determines its own reality
and/or discussions. In my experience it is for the best of all to let it
take it's own course - all things will pass. The more a listowner
interferes, the more narrow the discussions become. In many cases the
influence of the listowner's reality is inhibiting to the members in the
first place. Somehow members like to stay within the invisible lines never spoken
of. I am not convinced that this is the way it ought to be - but it usually
is...
BTW:
TriLite is meant for authentic individuals (or non-followers) and it needs
its distractions and debates in order to be what it is - a place to feel
free to speak one's heart and mind about the future possibilities to move up
to other densities or realities that have taken shape in the minds of those
who ponder about the infinity of moving on and up into the regions of our
Imagination or the Mind of God The Infinite - the One We Are, Own and
Celebrate...
I see no followers but I see equals - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:37:57 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Do you all agree?
To All TriLite Listers...
What is God? God is what we Are.
What is Life? Life is what we Are.
What is Love? Love is what we Are.
What is Truth? Truth is what we Are.
What is Peace? Peace is what we Are.
All of the above, and more, is what we are in different ratios. None of the
above can be given or send to others. We cannot give them aspects of the
qualities we are! All this means, that we can do nothing for others except
give them the opportunities to become more and more aware by means of their
experiences. This, and this only, will give them more awareness...
Conclusion:
If it was possible to give or send others Love, or Truth, or Peace, and if
they could accept it - we would deny them the opportunity to have their
experiences. This would be interference of an STS orientation...
Do you all agree? - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:20:38 -0700
To: Gerardus
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Do you all agree?
At 11:36 AM 10/11/2002 -0700, you wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerardus
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:37 AM
Subject: [TL] Do you all agree?
To All Listers...
What is God? God is what we Are.
What is Life? Life is what we Are.
What is Love? Love is what we Are.
What is Truth? Truth is what we Are.
What is Peace? Peace is what we Are.
All of the above, and more, is what we are in different ratios. None of
the above can be given or send to others. We cannot give them aspects of the
qualities we are! All this means, that we can do nothing for others except
give them the opportunities to become more and more aware by means of
their experiences. This, and this only, will give them more awareness...
Conclusion:
If it was possible to give or send others Love, or Truth, or Peace, and if
they could accept it - we would deny them the opportunity to have their
experiences. This would be interference of an STS orientation...
Do you all agree? - Gerardus
(God saw that it was Good)
Hello Gerardus - Stefan here:
While indeed you are wise in equating who we are to the infinite god
force, I feel you may be missing some fundamental truths in your analysis
of love.
Gerardus here:
First of all I would like to say, that I am not unwilling to help others or
send them Love or Healing Energy. So that being established I say this:
although I am willing to do so, I am not sure at all that that is the right
thing to do when I am not asked to do so. We spoke of this before and I
called it - mowing somebody else's Front Lawn without being asked to do so.
Might not sit too well...
Then:
what you say above Stefan might be so, there indeed might be something
missing in my philosophy. That is why it is good to discuss this on TL. In
general, there are hundreds of Lists with thousands of members that say the
same thing you do. This does not make it right! So, therefore I brought
this up on TL. It is difficult to discuss this on other lists, because right
away their dander sticks up. They see my post as being angry at the world
for example. Funny thing is - I am not angry for I have accepted what is.
They see their own anger reflected in my posts. Their inner create their
outer reality! Also, I do not want to change others or the world to what I
think they or it should be. So, I do not play Energy-Exchanges with others
in order to change these others or the world. Now, I will try to go through
this point by point...
Stefan here:
Even as we are the god force and we can not give our god force to
some else who is also god force, we can send others energy.
Gerardus here:
I see a contradiction in what you say. You say we cannot give them the god
force - but we can send them energy. Aren't those two the same thing?? Do
not they have as much, and the same energy as we have? An unlimited amount
so to speak?
The God Force IS Energy - Neutral Energy - and we are it, or are of it. We,
or anyone, can mold this energy into whatever form we want or need. Healing
and Loving Thoughts for example and/or Harness and Hate. The point here is,
that others have the same kind of energy and make or create something from
that energy that suits them. Is whatever they do - my business??
Can we make a judgment and say - what you are doing with your God-Energy is
not the right thing! Change it please, and or if not, I will send you a big
basket of my loving energy to change your mind. IOW: we pretend to know that
others need to change - this means judgment to me. This is against their
free will and an STS act on my part - that's the way I see this.
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Stefan here:
We as conscious
god force live in an ocean of energy that is also god force but lends
itself to our wills.
Gerardus here:
Agreed! It also lends itself to the will of others.
Which is basically none of my business...
Stefan here:
Of course you know that energy lends itself to the
imagination of the perceiver. It is ours to create with as we please.
Gerardus here:
Yes, agreed! But that does not give me the right to change what others do.
It might please me - but that also does not make it right. One needs to do
what's proper in a cosmic sense - not just what pleases us because we think
this ought to be different...
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Stefan here:
We can use it to help others in infinite ways if we please, and there doesn't
have to be interference with free will.
Gerardus here:
To help others, we need to determine first of all that they need our help.
That is a judgment! Like: look at this poor bloke - he needs my Energy. If
others do not ask us - whatever we send them or give them is a change in
their lifestyle or beingness because we desire that he should be helped.
It's changing others and changing the world. When we are asked - it's a
different case altogether...
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Stefan here:
Love doesn't interfere.
Gerardus here:
Love does not interfere. Hmmm?
If it does not interfere and change the other - we have not given them
anything! Change IS caused by our interference. All this comes down to,
that we think we do "good" by sending others Love or Healing Thoughts or
whatever. Do WE run the universe or the world? I figure that we only have
the right to change ourselves. Not others...
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Stefan here:
Does the
sun interfere with a flower by giving it light.
Gerardus here:
The seed or bulb is a creation of the Light or Sun and the
two are created in such a way that the one needs to other. That's a given!
Flowers do not have a conscious awareness to make a choice...
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Stefan here:
I believe love energy is
the most powerful force in the universe. It seems to move a bit slow though.
Gerardus here:
Yes, Love is Powerful - we are this Love and this Power. That's why we have
to be very careful not to "apply" or "give" it to others because WE think
they need it. WE do not run this world - we are here to learn to play our
part the proper way. Which is not to behave like Do-Gooders and wield this
power around as if we know where it is needed most and how much...
I do not think it proper to change the realities of others. We all create
our own realities in order to learn from them. Changing the reality of
others is denying them to have their lessons and learn by means of the
experiences they have created...
There are multi angles here - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 14:49:01 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Second Issue - Do you all agree?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
To All Listers...
What is God? God is what we Are.
What is Life? Life is what we Are.
What is Love? Love is what we Are.
What is Truth? Truth is what we Are.
What is Peace? Peace is what we Are.
All of the above, and more, is what we are in different ratios. None of the
above can be given or send to others. We cannot give them aspects of the
qualities we are! All this means, that we can do nothing for others except
give them the opportunities to become more and more aware by means of their
experiences. This, and this only, will give them more awareness...
Conclusion:
If it was possible to give or send others Love, or Truth, or Peace, and if
they could accept it - we would deny them the opportunity to have their
experiences. This would be interference of an STS orientation...
Do you all agree? - Gerardus
(God saw that it was Good)
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Follow up:
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Summation of Stefan's response:
We can use love/energy to help others in infinite ways if we please, and
there doesn't have to be interference with free will.
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John E. responded:
So if we open Ourselves up to Love Loving Ourselves, we in turn
are giving Love to Humanity and to all those we encounter
We are Them.
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Alexander responded:
The trouble with people is that they're busy fixing things they don't
even understand. We're always fixing things, aren't we? It never strikes
us that things don't need to be fixed. They really don't. This is a
great illumination. They need to be understood. If you understood them,
they'd change. ( Anthony De Mello, SJ )
Right on! (Alexander)
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Peg D. responded:
I agree with what Alexander/Stefan? here and the quote from Anthony
De Mello by Alexander. I learned much from reading De Mello and this
post has inspired me to get out those books again
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Olga here:
And also trying to be very controlling :))
It is not possible to wave a magic wand and *enlighten* any one else ... it
is for each of us to slowly step by step evolve and *see* the truth of our
being through our own experiences ......
Knowledge by itself is worthless ... it is the Experience of that knowledge
that sets us on the road of enlightenment ......
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Fred here:
I agree with your conclusion. It is through these STS experiences that we, as
Terran humans in 3rd density, learn from our experiences in this density. It
is also how and where we learn to make the choices for the upcoming journey.
Any sort of interference in that process would interfere with our learning
and our free will. Excellent points you have made here..
Namaste, Fred
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Mahrouk here:
Geeeeeee, you don't mean that, do you? How in God's name :) would you know
what their experiences were supposed to be? I feel, if they accept love and
peace then that is what they were supposed to experience. To think you can
deny or interfere with life as it IS, is kind of a contradiction.
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From a post not directly related to the above but close enough to include.
John G. here:
I think that we define ourselves -- as you have done when
describing your function as ListOwner / Facilitator. When we know who & what
we are we act accordingly. This leaves a LOT of room for hypocrites and
ignoramuses. If / when one is happy with themselves and their produce,
the question of "is it wise to do so...?" Seems, to me, to be moot. When
one assumes (believes?) that the world is in perfect balance / order, one
should be able to express as their individuality knowing that there is likely
to be some yang to their yin -- (... and, take comfort in the knowledge that:
what goes around, comes around.)
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Gerardus here:
Did I forget anyone?
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Second Issue!
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Gerardus here:
1)
We all know that human minds can and do interfere with plants and flowers.
We are able to send them energies or thoughts and they grow better, higher
or more colorful. It's assumed here however that they have the proper soil
and water...
2)
Now, if we are able to interfere with the growth of plants/flowers is this
what we should do or should not do? What gives us humans the right to
change things with our thoughts.
3)
Taken this a bit further, do we have the right to interfere with the thought
of our children? Like sending them loving thought, healing energies etc etc...
4)
Further yet do we have the right to interfere with other people in general,
including our leaders and or send them thoughts of Love, Peace and any other
energies that might change the course of mankind.
Note:
Are not all the above points occurrences whereby we try to change the world
of mankind to what we think it should be? If we do this is an STS
orientation (we change things to what we think things should be!)
5)
Or should we just observe the show and not try to mind control others?
6)
Does it really make any difference what we do
since there is not good and/or bad anyway?
7)
All this come basically down to:
Do we have the right to change others?
OR
Do we only have the right to change ourselves?
Conclusion Two:
I feel that we only have the right to change ourselves
and can only help others when we are asked to do so!
All in all, thinking this over again, it does not make
any difference what we do. But we need to come to some
conclusion and live with it to enjoy Peace within...
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I know that you have all given your opinions but some opinions might have
changed by contemplation of the responses received from others...
So add something to this if you like! - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:03:28 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] Third Issue - Do you all agree?
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Do you all agree?
Conclusion Three:
Gerardus here:
Re: "Service To Self" (STS)
"Service To Others" (STO)
"Service To All" (STA)
Here are my latest thoughts on the STS, STO or STA orientations:
I find it wise to practise the STO orientation before we enter into the next
higher density or vibration. In the mean time, what others do is not of my
concern...
1)
I feel that we have the choice and the ability to change ourselves. Changing
ourselves has no STS or STO orientation. Changing ourselves is a natural
evolutionary process and it has a "Service to All" (STA) orientation - we
help others by changing ourselves. Our vibrations radiate allover the planet.
We also have the choice to help others when we are asked to do so. This last
act would be an act with an STO orientation. We could call this the Observers
Position with the readiness to help others when called upon...
2)
We are able to change others by sending them energies via the mental
spectrum without being asked and these energies could be of a positive or
negative vibration. This would be an act with a STS orientation. In general,
we as human beings on earth live on an STS oriented planet...
3)
We may choose sending out both negative or positive energies, without being
asked, but we need to understand that what "goes-out" may return ten fold.
So, it is not wise to send out negative vibrations. Both acts do have an STS
orientation...
4)
Sending out mental energies of any kind is a form of mind control. When we
send out positive or negative energies without being asked, these acts are
both of an STS orientation and affect humanity and the planet...
Notes:
There comes a time in our life that we have very strong suspicions that we
have seen it all. It means that we can neither help ourselves nor others,
unless we are asked. We find that "nothing needs to be fixed". (De Mellow)
At that point, we are bumping into the "Futility of Limitation Barrier" of
this plane and it is time to move on. In the progression of consciousness
moving on means the experience of a completely new environment in order to
learn our next lesson. All this does not mean that "I as Gerardus the Body"
have learned it all - but it could mean that all my Soul-Aspects have learned
their lessons and we as a Whole Soul need to move on and up. I feel that
many others on TriLite have reached the same position. What do you think/feel
about this and do you have any disagreements with the above?
Also:
Is there anything else to add? - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:20:06 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] The Soul 3D-Placements...
At 02:19 PM 10/26/2002 -0400, you wrote:
JE wrote:
hey, who knows
I may have already been a mother in a past life...maybe many
lifetimes...;^)
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floyd here: It is my understanding that you alternate gender from
lifetime to lifetime, but with few exception. I would like to mention
here that what Gerardus spoke about choosing one's parents is very true,
but seems to be little known. Peace to all. >>>>> floyd >>>>>
Hi Floyd...
Right, people know next to nothing about the "hows" and "whys" of human
life. All this needs to become an aspect of our education as a child. It
teaches acceptance of others...We might incarnate among the same say 100 people we have been with before,
as Fathers, Mothers, Daughters and Sons. Throw in an odd Aunty and Uncle
here or there. Then, since we have learned ALL from that group of Souls, we
might wander into a completely new and strange land by ourselves and have
some rounds there. Learn all we can there and change again. All this takes
place according to the "feeling-energy" level we have reached. Life is a
Feeling looking for a place to express itself...
Also, out of habit or choice, me might have had too many incarnations are
Males or Females in a row and our energies become too masculine or too
feminine. When we change then, in order to break this cycle, we might turn
out to become a fairly feminine soul in a male body, or we might be a too
masculine soul in a female body so to speak. All this gives us additional
changes to experience life from different angles and this brings with it
specific experiences...
Also, too many female and or male incarnation might foster tendencies to
become a "gay" or a "lesbian" expression once we changeover. This is also a
learning for the soul naturally. I have found that most Gays and Lesbians
are older souls. It is a difficult adjustment for a younger or inexperienced
soul. Also, the parent souls and their expressions might have affect on the
tendencies of some souls to become human beings as Gays or Lesbians. And
yes, when we are "awake" all this could be done by choice. Before we are
conscious enough to make choices, our Counselors will "place" us. We are
all adopted Souls...
All in all every experience counts toward attaining wisdom - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:41:24 -0700
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] What is Love?
At 01:32 PM 10/26/2002 -0400, you wrote:
(Gerardus)So what is Love? >>>
Chris here:
IMHO,
On a universal level, I think love is simply what I would call "positive
polarity", or what is known as Service-To-Others (as opposed to
Service-To-Self). I think true love, in its unhindered form, is all
encompassing. It is the benevolent aspect of the duality within all of us.
(Love of nature, love of people, love of life...)
Hello Chris...
For now, I agree with your citation/summation on Love. Yet, I cannot speak
completely from the heart, because I feel that there are too many unknowns
to me and therefore there are things I still need to learn. Especially
about Love and Life to directly agree on the description/definition of
these characteristics by others, however beautifully they sound...
As of now, I feel that Life or the Universe is Love expressed.
Period! Since it also expresses itself in STS - the Love of Self is also
Love. Could it be that those STSers are in the same boat I am - not
completely aware of the extent of Love and have chosen an orientation that
has been marked upon their soulbeing as an involuntary tendency, by those
who create universes, galaxies and planets and therefore assign tendencies
to certain beings in order to create the duality necessary to play the game
as if it was real - so that all may learn and eventually unite as One in
Love...
Seeing through it is the clue - Gerardus
(Love is Love is Love in any Currency)
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:12:40 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Geezer's Gobbledegook
At 03:31 PM 10/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
floyd here: Gerardus, this is so enlightening for me. I had never
thought to compare a baby with a young soul before. But it stands to
reason that this would be so. When I read your post, chill bumps ran all
over me. This is what hapens when one of my guides are near or showing
me a different way of doing something. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
with me. Things are getting better - but that isn't to say that we are
in for some bad times - soon. I hate the word -- bad or good, because
that doesn't really convey what I want to say. floyd
Hello Floyd - Gerardus here:
Yeah, I do not like good and bad either. All I like is awesome and smashing!
In a pinch I use hot and cool. Bronckles counts for both of them! Then to
continue this rambler - you are welcome to my words of knowledge. But you
know - it is not really my knowledge. I got it from others, who also got it
somewhere else. Come to think of it - there might be no original knowledge!
It's all borrowed from others and many people get it from blokes they can't
even see. Some of this knowledge never wears out either. It's older than the
earth. And also, what these others tell us, was the same thing we told them
the last time around. Re-incarnation works that way. It works itself
backwards to the original source maybe...
Needless to say that no one knows who or where that source is, because they
keep looking for it. Where is my source? .. Where is my beginning? .. Where
do I come from and why? My puzzle is, how can they find it if they do not
know what they are looking for? After years of going places they find out
that they are the source themselves. It stuns them into silent laughter for
sure. It all works the same as the chicken and the egg. Who came first? No
big deal!
When we take this illusionary time away - no one is first or last
- everything just sits there! It's just like a cell dividing itself on TV -
they just split into two because they became too big for their own good.
Life is a dream of many things, but there is but one dreamer. Most likely
it's an infinite Holographic Light - splitting itself into pieces of
different colored Light that move about chasing shadows of their own making.
Why bother...
I figure that you and I could save these people who are looking for their
source, a lot of looking if they but listen to us old Geezers. As you know,
our source or the beginning is our subconsciousness, it's our Soul and it is
the same thing other people call God. There is only one of them and we
can't miss it for we are it. I am still dumbfounded why others listen to
others sometimes. What a waste of time and money. The whole works lives
within. We do not live in the universe, the universe lives within us. Listen
and you hear it rattle - we are all containing a Knowledge Mine...
Then, well, I think your chill bumps are the same as my bells ringing in my
heart when I hear or read something that sounds true. For you I guess - it's
kind of as if your soul has growing pains and shivers and then you get chill
bumps. Mine are more like goose pimples with bells on them. It's of no use
to be all the same...
Kidding some more here maybe:
I used to know a lady and she would get shocks going through her body when
she heard truth. She liked it so much - she began addicted to it. She began
with sticking her bobby-pins in the receptacles around the house and finally
ended up with a Pace-Maker for an elephant. Not sure whether all this is
true. As you know, my imagination is a lot bigger than my truth. So beware
of fluffy ruffles with tinges of sunshine...
You have been a Guest of the Geezer's Gobbledegook - Gerardus
For emergencies - http://www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
(Thank you for your kind words Floyd)
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To: healing_unity_movement_of_all_nations@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:31:52 -0800
Subject: Re: [H.U.M.A.N.] What would you do to insure World Peace?
At 07:33 PM 10/29/2002 +0000, you wrote:
If you were a world leader, and it was up to you, to find a solution
for world peace, what kind of action would you take?
Gerardus here:
I will try to answer this shortly but this in and by itself is next to
impossible. For more complete answers see: http://www.soulwise.net/25a-tgs.htm
Written in haste:
World Peace depends on the Collective Consciousness of mankind, country by
country. The Collective Conscious of humanity creates what is, or will be.
This CC is influenced by the Leaders of these Countries and or the NWO and
their tricks. They pull off these tricks in order to influence the
population of certain countries (WTC Destruction for example). In many cases
then, the future of mankind depends on the gullibility or the ignorance of
the average citizen. This is why it is important for the average person to
see through the lies and tricks of the politicians. Indifference sometimes
wins...
The solution to world peace is education! Sometimes this is withheld on
purpose by certain countries and leaders and people are brainwashed into
states of indifference or worse...
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What if you knew there were countries around the world that could in
a blink of an eye destroy planet Earth and all peoples and things on
her. What would you do?
Gerardus here:
Accept what is and trust that those who look after Mankind from higher
dimensions intervene. This happens sometimes. Usually, they will not let the
school be destroyed by the students! Further more - there is nothing one can
do but try to raise the knowledge or awareness of our contemporaries world
wide. Ignorance world wide is our enemy and it is used by those in Control
- the Secret Government. Not likely would they want to destroy the entire
world for it would spoil their power game. Knowledge or Awareness is the
first Clue! Love or Understanding is second...
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Would you destroy them, before they could destroy you, Or, would you
find another way?
Gerardus here:
Again, it all depends on how stupid one is and how much influence one has
over the buttons to be pushed. It is not a one man show - although it looks
that way. And again - we must truth the universe we live in and the Beings
who are in charge of mankind on earth. The leaders nowadays are the Secret
Government or the Illuminati and they are striving for world domination by
force and deceit. They kill opponents and those who are in the way. They
HAVE the power to do anything they see fit. Not necessarily will they win!
Sometimes things go wrong...
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The future of this planet lies within your choices you make this day.
Would you chose wisely, taking the time to consider all outcomes that
would affect all peoples or would you just re-act?
Gerardus here:
These questions are difficult to answer because I do not have that kind of
mind. One needs to be an all around ego-mind in order to answer the
questions. Those kind of people are not on this list see. Some leaders
re-act yes. But we cannot under-estimate the Illuminati. They might be
cruel, but they are not stupid like their puppets are. Sorry George...
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I truly believe that the future of this planet depends on the choices
we all make each and everyday.
I pray that we all chose wisely.
Gerardus here:
Yes, our future depends on our choices. However, we cannot choose for
others. It is also next to impossible to change the thoughts of others for
this is a free will planet. The collective Consciousness or Awareness of
mankind is the Creator of what goes - unless other forces intervene. In an
all out nuclear war for example they might intervene. I do not know and
cannot know - because I am not in their position. But if it was up to me - I
would not let the school be destroyed because the students have been
brainwashed. That would mean I would have to intervene and make those
Nuclear Toys inoperable... No big deal...
In the mean time, this world is where Souls come to have their experiences.
There are no good and or bad experiences from a cosmic point of view. Wisdom
is the result of Experience and we are here to have them - each of us in
our own way. We all create our own reality irregardless of who fights who
and/or gets killed...
Peace is an inner thing!
It radiates itself around us wherever we find ourselves - Gerardus
http://www.soulwise.net/25a-tgs.htm
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To:
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:20:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [TL] Stefan and Gerardus are One - somewhere...
Hello Stefan...
I like your post and the questions. They give me a reason to be me - the
authentic Soul I am. Hitler and Julius Caesar and all the other great actors
in this infinite play of creation, and I - We Are One!
Then:
I will never ask you to leave TriLite. In six years or so, I have never ask
any member to leave! I would rather abandon the whole thing than ask one
member to leave. TriLite is a universe in miniature and whoever shows up,
belongs. Then - "who am I?" - I leave that up to you and others to
determine.
All I can say is, that I am of the Light AND the Dark - for I am
TIL in a personal expression, with tendencies toward Service To Others...
Further, if you are really interested in knowing who or what I am and
whether I represent Light or Dark - I suggest that you read my Thoughts of
the last 25 years, which are expressed on my pages. I suggest that you start
with my poems and/or read my Cosmic Cookies. If you cannot see a gradual
growth in them from beginning to end - all I can say is that you have wasted
your time...
I am my authentic Self, speaking, a Soul on a solitary journey, within an
infinite universe that is my mind and of which its Greatness I am but barely
aware. My mind, this Infinity is projecting upon the screen of my limited
awareness a shimmer of Beauty and Brilliance I dare to hold dear, for it is
me in all my Glory and Splendor...
So be It - Gerardus the Pontiff and the Beguiler.
http://www.soulwise.net/allpoems.htm
***
Thank you for your response Gerardus. You are most gracious. I like the title you choose
for this post. This is something that I realized early in our encounters here on your Trilite list.
As the observer I see two souls who are very different yet very similar. The irony didn't
escape me. I know you have done a great deal of work and really it doesn't matter much.
What matters is "who you are". If there is any mis-take that you have adopted I want it
illuminated. Why? Because as you said in the post title "We are one". Maybe more so
than you suppose. I am at your service or I am an odd memory. Whichever you choose.
My challenge was to your subconscious or your soul if you will. You responded well.
Stefan
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Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:01:59 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: [TL] Neutralize the Sucker .. was A carnival
Hello Jim...
The child and the observer are One.
There are no two!
Because Consciousness is One - Gerardus
(There never were Two - it's all a dream)
Gerardus... Is there anything that is not a dream? Jim.
Hi Jim...
Shortly put: YES...
It is the Absolute Reality or Creator We Are!
Long story:
We are the Creator dreaming!
We dream realities that are virtual. All realities are virtual. Creation
is/are all figments or manifestations in this dream and IS the dream! We as
humans dream that all figments are real and actual, and think that we have
some measure of control over our own individual aspects of this dream.
This is so... and yet it is not... for the Creator lives within us... and IT is
us! It does many things in an unconscious manner and this awakens it/us.
It does terrible things sometimes for it is driven by the ego, which is a
temporary self-awareness that comes with the body-mind as a default entity
that lives in a dense fog in human beings. It is an illusionary self
brainwashed by nonsense...
The Creator is the One who dreams. We as humans have the option to become
the witness or the observer of this dream. That's why one needs to quit
participating in the dream or action. Participation means not observing as
much as possible for one's ego-mind is still foggy, biased or pre-occupied.
Shortly put - Neutralize the Sucker.
(Sorry... I am laughing like hell)
The Creator within thinks and functions as all individuals or
semi-independent beings that dream its dream and take it for real (it's
still a dream). During our dreams we experience different realities that
each in their turn awaken us to so called higher realities. More and more we
become aware in our dream so to speak. In the mean time, all realities are
virtual realities or dream realities. Who or What experiences these virtual
realities? It is the One Dreamer! The One We Actually Are - The Truth...
Sooner or later we awaken fully. By fully I do not necessarily mean awakening
to the Christ or the Buddha Consciousness. This level might be but an
intermediate stage... (Sorry Buddha)
What actually dreams??
It is the Infinite-Subconsciousness or Soul of Creation.
Naturally THIS is the Creator - The Unfathomable Truth!
I feel that some Sages called this The Void. There is no such thing.
The Infinite Subconsciousness of all Universes is not a Void. It is Energy!
See -- http://www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
The best I can do for now - Gerardus
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:26:11 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: The Creator's Dream is Creation...
Note:
The Creator or the Soul we are is a Dreamer and Creation is our Dream.
Within this Dream we as human beings and as infinitely small aspect of that
Dream have become semi-independent aspects of the Creator in that Dream. We
seem to think independently! When we as an illusionary aspect awaken - we
discover that we are the Creator and our Dream will have become the Reality
of who or what we are - Creation! Creation then will be then our individual
Expression. We will understand the following then...
God saw that is was Good...
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:36:41 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Temperature Debates...
Gerardus here:
I listen to the CBC Radio sometimes and I hear scientists debating whether
or not the earth is warming up or cooling off. No one agrees with all the
theories of the others and in the mean time we just have to experience what
our future temperatures on earth will be...
All this reminds me of the days I had big aquariums and no doubt the fish in
there must have had similar temperature debates. Yes, I allot a lot of
intelligence to fish! In any case, the fish debate went nowhere and I feel
that the scientific debate about our earth and it future temperature are not
going anywhere either...
I know that the temperature in my aquariums were well taken care of, for the
temperature was maintained by my thermostat controlled heater. The fish
never figured this out! I feel that our scientists will also never figure
out that the temperature of the earth is in control by those who take care
of this. No doubt these Beings are the 4D or 5D or 6D Entities who are in
charge of these matters...
I hope to join them and others one of these days - Gerardus
BTW:
Life and Truth... are the same Thing
That is why we are the Living Truth!
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 16:57:40 -0800
Subject: Re: [TL] Battle for your Mind
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Gerardus here:
I am not putting you on quite fully. He was advanced in his thinking
alright, but he made his thinking so hard to digest, that I often gave
up on him. He uses too many words to say next to nothing. Too fancy so to
speak. But then that's only my experience and once I understood what
he said - "I" could put it into simple thoughts/words...
I agree, Gerardus, that you have a gift for expressing truth in simple
words. However, I do find that complex language such as Michael
Topper's is good for the "yeah but" crowd -- you know, the type of
people who stop you mid-sentence by saying, "Yeah, but..." and off they
go on some tangent. Language like Topper's can nail down a concept and
eliminate ambiguity, so the "yeah but" people have nothing on which to
hang their hats.
How's that for obfuscation?
Meredith
Hello Meredith...
Yeah, but... "obfuscation" in and by itself, as a singular word or item,
let alone the rest of the words in your post, like "ambiguity" and possibly
"complex", if not "can nail", is a reach for a dictionary real quick like
(right now kind of an emergency), so I am not sure to agree or not with you
statement immediately; or after a subtle delayed period, to throw of the
curious crowds, if not to confuse them entirely, if that was possible by
ordinary means instead of mind control; because the thing is in the bedroom
room being used as a footstool by the Queen of Oliver in her need to reach a
higher level of observation and/or scenery to watch and catch that spider on
the ceiling above the bed, all this no doubt, is to gently remove it from
said environment, preventing a nightmare causing entity taking over when
bedtime arrives and would of necessity, delay proceedings after dusk or
there about; or I could just make it real easy and take that "o" word off my
screen and no doubt that simple maneuver would make your entire post make
sense to my single brain cell on high alert and desperately trying to reach
for the impossible at lightning speed in Space/Time avoiding Time/Space by
permission of the ONE who never shows itself in and by itself in its Totality
and/or infinite Beingness at any one time or another...
------ I tried to imitate MT
My Language: I agree and good example!
Hard to miss the point me thinks - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:30:46 -0800
To: gerardus@otvcablelan.net
From: Gerardus
Subject: Creation our Reality...
Hello Mahroukee...
I do not completely disagree with Leonard - but for a while as yet - I see
things from the opposite end of the spectrum or continuum. The Creator IS
Creation! Leonard speaks strictly from the Creator's point of view as if he
speaks for that One Only! Gerardus speak from the point of view of the many
co-creators. Like You and Me and the Neighbours...
Also, possibly Leonard speaks of "creating" the perceptions of: "my body, my
mate Ellen, my home, and every detail of my environment. He continues: You
create Canada, the world, sun, stars, planets and galaxies, you even create
me, the lot".
Really?
I only create perceptions! I do not create the "underlying cosmic energies"
that are seen as perceptions. Any sentient being, including fools, are able
create or see perceptions. But that is NOT what I am speaking of! Creating
perceptions is an automatic job once one lives in a human body. Creating
the "underlying cosmic energies" we perceive as our daily surroundings is a
different story.
All of these energies are collectively created by all
co-creators who are responsible for planet earth, including the
Consciousness of Mankind. There are millions of co-creators and most exist
in the invisible regions. And yes, all these Beings are us and we are them -
but NOT in a conscious manner! Also, there are millions of things to look
after once a planet has a population of nearly seven billion human vehicles
and trillions of animals, and zillions of insects and the like...
Most people do not even realize what it takes to run a Hospital or a
Generating Station for example. Usually for every bed in a Hospital - four
people are needed to run or maintain it. Means, a hundred bed hospital takes
400 people to run it. In many ways, Planet earth is a hospital or school.
There are millions of things to keep track of...
So what you speak about Mahrouk is true.
Really, I did a lousy job creating you cute and small. And naturally, I also
did not create you too wise! This is because I do not want to be out smarted
too often so to speak. Looking at things this way is over looking a few very
important things I figure. We overlook individual responsibility for what we
create and or perceive...
In any case, I agree to the statement that each individual creates his own
perceptions. While our daily surroundings or reality is a collective
creative effort by those responsible for the Creative Dream of Planet Earth.
Collectively we, all invisible co-creators and humanity, create the
underlying cosmic energies. While the perceptions of this realities differ
for all of us. All perceptions are individually created notions or choices.
There is no way that Gerardus creates any of Leonard's birds or his coffee
pot for example...
Only one candle - Gerardus
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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:18:52 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] YCYOR A
At 08:25 PM 11/26/2002 +0000, you wrote:
Leonard here...
Thank you Gerardus for you views on creating reality, I do agree with
most of what you say. Yes, it does depend on your point of view,
which end of the spectrum or continuum, that is your choice. I was
attempting to acknowledge the whole truth, the whole spectrum.
Hello Leonard...
Yes, I know that you recognize the entire Spectrum of Life. It is a bit hard
to follow for many on TriLite, so I thought is useful to respond to your
philosophy or point of view. Most people on TL are somewhere in between
seeing the entire Spectrum as well as the confusion it brings to our/their
individual understandings to only express the views from the Top of the
Spectrum...
Especially so for me, since I do not see self-awareness at the Top Level.
All beings lose their ID when they enter through that Gate. I agree that at
all times the All of All is present in full Glory within all of us, but that
does not make it clear enough to the many to only "speak" from that level.
Thing is, as I see things - that level never speaks in the first...
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Leonard here:
From your viewpoint we do create our perceptions and I maintain that
the perceptions and the reality are one and the same. It is from
the 'underlying cosmic energies' that our perceptions emerge. It is
from the whole spectrum that we create these energies too. If we look
at the evidence of quantum physics we see there is only this energy
and the solid 3D world that we percieve is not 'real' at all. It is
the perceiving of the energy that solidifies it into our world, and
that procees though I accept, I do not understand.
Gerardus here:
Maybe seeing all things as Energy or Force Fields will help to grasp their
realities and their characteristics. All beings ARE really
Aware-Force-Fields and interact, as well as, recognize other Force Fields.
It's like an Electromagnetic Sensor re-acting to an Electromagnetic Force
Field. It tells us how powerful it is and what frequency so to speak. Our
bodies as Force Fields, and as Awarenesses however, are a million time more
powerful and selective than our sensors, for they recognize Force Fields
they have seen before. Familiar face we say then!
Little do we know how tremendously complicated human bodies really are. The
thing is - the very Creator IS the Human Being or Force Field in human form.
It however does not know this --- but some humans do! Most humans have no
idea about the actuality of themselves. They have no clue as to who or what
they actually are. We are all here to ease ourselves into this...
Talking about the solidness we experience:
The solidification of realities is actually a subjective reality that we
experience as if it is an objective reality. The point is, that we "create"
this solid illusion just for the heck of it in order to get lost in it. We
MUST become physical however in order to experience this! Human bodies so to
speak "qualify" energies as solid or not. There is no other way to do it...
All realities are fake or virtual in the first place. We need a special
instrument in order to make certain things solid. So, our body fools most
fools. Including the greatest scientists. They somehow look right past the
simplicity of it. Lately however, with Quantum Physics they come to the
conclusion of the weirdness of it all. They are forced to become Sages by
means of their Sciences...
This solidity is a most confusing issue for GodBeings educating themselves
to what is. If we see all this as a dream - it might help to grasp the
illusion of the dream as a temporary reality and only as long as we are
asleep. Which most people are, including me. Within my dream though, I
realize that I am dreaming and that waking up is the thing to do. I figure
that this only can be done by creating my dream in a conscious manner and
enjoy the heck out of it. Sooner or later we burst out laughing and this
will wake us up. Pretty hard to sell this to a bloke who is under fire in a
battle field naturally. They are completely lost in the illusion of it all...
--------------------------
Leonard here:
Of course you do not create my birds or coffee pot for you do not
percieve them, though you do create the pictures of them that you do
perceive, The same with Mahroukee's body, that is his perception. If
If I did meet Mahroukee, I would perceive him differently than he
perceives himself. We all perceive the sky as blue but we have no way
of knowing what anothers version of blue is.
Gerardus here:
Mahrouk is a lady in India. Bombay I think. She moves around a lot. Restless
legs maybe. She has been on TL for a long long time and she taught me all I
think I know. Good gracious me - it is more than I am able to remember.
BTW: I thought that she was a male as well - Great minds ..... .....
Leonard here:
It is interesting to note that guides and others from the spirit
world say they see our bodies as light. They do not precieve our 3D
world as we do. They do not possess our 3D senses to create our
perceptions/reality.
Gerardus here:
Yes, one needs to live in a body/lens in order to see bodies and other
physical stuff. This is why the entire Physical Creation is a Celebration of
the First Order. For anybody else there is only Light...
BTW:
If a human being knew how to expand himself again and again and again, a
billion times and more, he would discover that he has become the Creator.
The Creator lives within him, like the Grandfather lives within the Boy...
No doubt your birds know all this - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 01:44:36 EST
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] Are we controlled ?
In a message dated 12/6/2002 10:38:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gerardus@otvcablelan.net writes:
Hi Floyd...
I wrote all that because in all my silliness I thought there were some
people on TL who thought that they were/are totally free. In attitude yes,
but not in a physical sense, not in a mental sense and not in a spiritual
sense. Mankind is mind-controlled! We are Kept! Our attitudes only change
the wall paper on our prison walls. It makes it tolerable, because the
slogans on it say - Share your Light and Love and All Is Well. All this
does not set us free. We need to KNOW what's going on. ONLY THAT sets us
free. Awareness of what is does the trick. Not denial or neglect to look
into it...
I know it to be so because I discovered for myself. I investigated this and
did not reject it out of hand without studying the situation. Some might
think this nonsense! Are Chemtrails nonsense?? Study them! Is
fluoridation nonsense? It dumbs down our brain! We do not have this to
keep our teeth healthy! The NWO does not care about our well being - it
cares about control. They try to keep us dumb...
Mankind is as much an aspect of creation as any other type of Life in the
universe. There are creatures below us and we control them and there are
creatures above us who control us. Not recognizing THAT is missing the
entire point of 3D Life. They are there! Study UFOs and other Life
Expressions not directly familiar to mankind. If one calls this instilling
fear, it means to me that they are not familiar with that kind of
Life-Expressions. Only when we study them and know what they are like can
we
eliminate fear. We need to know what is, before we can conquer Fear! We
cannot eliminate fear about something we know next to nothing about or
deny...
And yes, we all have to pay for gas and power, but is this really so??
Think
about this. In a world where all things are free - we will be free! This
can be, if we all worked for the good of all! Presently half of our work
and energies goes to destruction and to the thieves in control. This does
not have to be so! Point is, we need to become familiar with what is,
before we can tell ourselves what we do not want anymore...
Life means investigate everything! - Gerardus
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Hi G-Man,
Fred here again:
I'm sorry for copying the full text of your message to Floyd, but I thought
it might be necessary. It bears repeating.
I think there is a slight misunderstanding amongst some of us on the list
here, and you have spelled out the parameters of our understanding very well
here. I am most impressed, indeed!
There is no reason for one to be sad, myopic, fearful and trembling about the
control system that exists on this planet. But denying its existence and
pretending it has no effect upon our lives is pointless and silly. Of course
the mind is powerful, and of course we ourselves control much of what is
happening inside of ourselves. We also have a great deal of control over our
perceptions, and some degree of control of our own degree and type of
awareness. But as I put in my other recent post, none of us is an island, and
to try to assume that we have complete control of our own destiny is only
going to fulfill a temporary fantasy, and nothing more.
These are some of the reasons why it is important to learn. To learn how this
third density world functions, how it operates, what and who makes it tick,
and how. This is what is going to allow us to advance. Going into denial and
believing that we have total power over ourselves and absolutely all of our
experiences is not in fact helpful. And the reason for that is that this
denies vital learning, it creates obsession, and as the Cassiopaeans said,
obsession creates a blockage in the spiritual energy. It prevents advancement
in a key or critical area. So then, the lessons must continue in the same
classroom, even if in another day and time (another lifetime in 3d reality,
in other words.).
Another hang-up that seems to be prevalent in our world these days, amongst
those striving for higher understanding is the confusion of principles
relating to the good/bad---positive/negative spectrum. And this is what
allows so many to become confused and seek emotional refuge within the false
belief system that no one and nothing else can in any way, or to any extent,
control them. Specifically, there is no such thing as "good" and their is no
such thing as "bad." These are completely subjective value judgments, that do
not exist in reality. All there really is is lessons. Experiences,
consciousness, awareness, knowledge acquisition, empowerment, learning.
So when one, such as me, or you Gerardus, suggests to others that we are in a
controlled environment, this is not a "bad" thing. It just is.
It just is
what it is, and that is it! There is no need to mope around feeling all sad
and down because the Illuminati or the NWO, or the cabal, or whatever is in
control of your reality. Maybe, if one could see the big picture, the REALLY
big picture, they would see that this may in fact be just as easily viewed as
a good thing. Except that it is not. It is a neutral thing, it just is.
But as you have pointed out, and as I have tried to point out too, becoming
aware of the truth of our circumstance is vital, in order to make progress.
Learning how the system on the 3D earth functions is necessary before one can
move beyond it.
This will happen to everyone sooner or later, the question is
when, not if. Denying the reality of the structure and how it operates only
delays this progress. But that is not a bad thing either, it also just is.
The great thing about forums such as TriLite, is that the participants have a
leg up on most others in this way. We are closer to seeing, recognizing,
accepting and learning these things. Therefore, we are closer to advancement.
If one would rather not advance to a higher level yet, that is perfectly
fine. Maybe they are not yet ready to do so. Like all else, in the big
picture, it is all good.
Tak,
Fred
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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 10:09:48 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Whose truth ?
At 09:47 AM 12/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
floyd here: Please indulge me once again to repeat myself. We
most always post as though we are the authority on what we say. I would
like to see more of "in my opinion". I know we are the authority on how
we feel, but we don't all feel the same. This may clear up some things
in some minds, then maybe not. Peace & Light to all. floyd
Hello Floyd...
In my opinion: You are right!
I feel though that when I receive an email from anyone on TriLite, or any
other list, or from a private person, all I receive are opinions. I figure
that TRUTH is tooo big to come by email. Besides we all have our own
according to our opinion...
In any case, I think that many people sometimes say "I feel" or "I think"
or "consider this" - but I suggest that from now on in whatever we receive
by email we ought to consider as opinions. What else could they be?
I also look at it this way - Truth is what We Are - and what we read or
hear is only an opinion. What we experience ourselves however, could
considered to be a personal truth. And even that could be confusing or
misleading because sometimes we come to the conclusion that there was a lot
more involved than what we experienced in the first place. We miss things
sometimes...
Sometimes I watch David Copperfield the Illusionist. I know however that
what I experience is not the truth. He is too slick for me and millions
more. All in all, Life is but a Game or Play by which we slowly awaken to
greater Truths...
TO SUM THIS UP:
We are the Light, we are Life, we are the Creator, we are the Universe, we
are Creation, we are the Truth AND when we as human beings live in a Third
Density Environment we live in an illusion within which there are only
opinions. IOW: there is no Truth in this reality - except for the Essence
We Are. So all we hear see and experience for that matter are opinions...
In my opinion - Gerardus
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Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 10:46:56 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] Re: Prison Planet
Hi, Julie here:
Magnificent postings!
I couldn't have put
it better myself; it is frustrating to witness sometimes.
There is even talk that 'they' have infiltrated the Astral
and keep sending us back into the cycle of reincarnation
because we follow the "white" light! Two questions then,
if I may:-
1. Olga is right about the fact that if we refuse to
ALLOW them to affect our mind-pattern then we do not
succumb to their ridiculous programming. In the meantime,
do you think there is a specific reason WHY we are awakened
to this knowledge at this time?
Gerardus opinion here:
Olga is right for her - not completely for me.
I do agree however that the more awakened we are - the less we will be
influenced by mind programming. There are however many different kinds of
programming. Also, the very fact that millions of people are mind controlled
AFFECTS my mind for it is the same mind. There is BUT ONE mind. Unless one
is a Master one is affected...
Some people/members are awakened to "what is" and others seem to say to me
on the list - "who cares what is? It might be true, but if I do not focus
upon it, it is not going to affect me".
Really?
Some people thought the same thing at the WTC destructions. They burnt or
jumped and were killed. All this to me is a bit of wishful thinking leaving
out, or rejecting, the totality of what's going on in 3D. It is therefore a
lack in knowing what 3D is all about. It does not mean that those who know
what is - are fearful and or spread fear. How could they? - they know "what
is". Fred's last post pointed this out quite clearly I feel. Putting certain
people or happenings out of our focus does not make them or things go away...
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Julie here:
And if so, do we not have
a responsibility to attempt to change the world, and if so,
how do we do that other than by not going to the polling
booths?
Gerardus here:
In my view the world is not something that needs to be fixed. We are the
Students in the School of Earth. Students do not fix the school. They have
their lessons and learn from them. Now, in addition to this - we are able
to change the world ONLY by changing ourselves. What is "out there" are the
refections of the mind of many. Fixing these reflections is useless. The
projectors or the Mass-Mind need to change. We cannot change the mass-mind
or the mind of others. This is not our responsibility. We can only change
our own mind. We must become an Observer - not a fixer of the happenings
other still need to learn from...
The New Age World is fixated by what Seth taught - You create your own
reality - it's all fine and dandy, but it is not entirely true. We only
create our own reality in our living room! (With the TV off) For the rest,
the reality we experience in the world is a WE-thing and is created by
billions in addition to the main input of the Illuminati and their bosses in
4D. They determine the world scenarios. They do this in order to feed off
us...
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Julie here:
The 'hippy' in me would love to scream this stuff from the
rooftops and march through the streets. The reality,
though, is that it's difficult to establish HOW one can
change the world other than by harnessing as much love and
light energy within us and transmitting it out to the
planet, in the hope that it will transmute the negative
energy or light up the dark. I can see no other way,
really, of helping humans on a Grand scale. Any ideas?
Gerardus here:
Yes, I have ideas or opinions.
Light and Dark are Twins! Infinite Twins - God is both of them so to speak.
These Twins make up Creation! There is no need to fix the Dark by sending it
Light! The task of living in 3D as a human being is "seeing through" the
Games we play and they are Light and Dark mixed in a ratio that is balanced
in the long run. No need for students (or infinitely tiny minds) to fix the
Infinite Mind of the Universe that creates worlds and their inhabitants.
Things are the way they are on purpose! See this maybe:
http://www.soulwise.net/25f-top.htm
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Julie here:
2. Do you think that WE will be able to escape the prison
planet or do you think Anna Hayes, Swerdlow, etc. are the
only ones privvy to this special knowledge? Do you feel
that Focused Intent/desire to Ascend is enough?
Gerardus here:
Anna Hayes and Swerdlow both have opinions on what is truth and what is not.
So have you, so have I. AND certainly I do not think that there are but two
sources that need to be followed. As matter of fact, the only source to pay
attention to is the Soul We are. The Light within! And it is better to
listen to our own tiny light/voice than FOLLOWING anybody else. We all live
our own live and must do this in an authentic manner. It's better to
stumble on our own than to march in great columns of truth proclaimed by
some other person. Naturally, this in only my opinion and you must do what
you must do...
-------------------------
Julie here:
BTW, lovely one by the Maharishi - love to see people in
power sticking their necks out although I have a tiny
reservation about Scientists being in power.
Gerardus here:
We have a member on TL who says: "God is a computer and we are its display".
The more I get to know - the more this sound true to me. Instead of the word
Computer you may instead use the word Scientist. My point is - in my opinion
- there is not God or Creator. There are only Co-Creators and all of them
are scientists and/or very learned people. They do not ooze Love - they ooze
opportunities for all of us to follow in their food steps. Means learning
what is and overcoming our limitations...
Only one Candle - Gerardus
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Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 22:04:48 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] LOVE
At 12:14 AM 12/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:
(Gerardus)Suppose there is only Universal Energy within which only
Co-Creators exist and no Main Top Creator? >>>
I see what you mean, and what I was trying to express was not that the
Universe is subject to feelings, but rather this Energy is the source of
all feeling/experience/possibility.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I get your point. I say the same things different maybe. Here it is:
These feelings/experiences/possibilities can only be expressed and/or
experienced by the Created, of which all Co-Creators are participants. As
I see it, the whole thing works as the Power of Electricity feeding all
Appliances. Only the appliances know or experience. Not the Source of Power
or the Universal Energy...
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The Universal Energy could be unfeeling towards Creation - but the
Co-Creators have their own feelings and nature by which they creates
planets and creatures.
It's interesting to ponder just how feelings and preferences come into
play with these co-creators. Far beyond my capacity to try and come up
with an explanation, though!
Gerardus here:
Yes, we are co-creators as well! We experience these feelings. How does
anything come about? I do not know. I do not think that this can be
included within human understanding. But what I see is this --- All
Thoughts or Things are Energy Force Fields with specific characteristics
that are capable of recognizing other Energy Force Fields. They compare
themselves to others! They match and notice and record again that what
they have experienced. (I do not know How precisely)...
I feel that all things and feelings are an expression of the Whole, that in
and by itself does not have to participate in a conscious manner since the
created are the conscious participants and together are the Whole in the
first place. So, the Created are not One Thing as such but make up the
many and have an Underlying Oneness - the Infinite Subconsciousness (The
IS). The Infinite Subconsciousness of Creation *is* the Creative Energy /
The Creator / or Power Source ---> but not consciously aware of anything.
No need for it, for the Created or the Creation or the Christ already is
conscious of all that is. The Created or Creation *is* the Christ or Buddha...
There are no mysteries only puzzles and lessons - Gerardus
BTW:
Alexander works far away and is away from Home often.
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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:44:26 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [TL] consciousness
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 07:32 AM 12/22/2002 +0000, you wrote:
Leonard here.....trying again!
Gerardus says...
Thank you for your kind words. The Soul or Spirit within me is an
aspect of the Infinite Creator. It is limited to a particular level
of awareness in order to experience a specific aspect of creation
called Gerardus and his emails, pages and poems. The Creator we all
are an aspect of - CANNOT enjoy Creation in Total by means of one
Gerardus at this time. No doubt other times and other lives will
arrive. As a matter of fact they already have. They are Leonard,
Raven and another few billion times a Zillions Beings. Some are
Aliens with a negative orientation. We all play the Game of Creation
our own way...
Who can blame us? - Gerardus
Leonard here...
The Soul or Spirit within me is not an aspect of the Infinite
Creator....IT IS THE INFINITE CREATOR. It is not limited but whole,
and only my consciousness of it is limited. We are not 'aspects' we
are 'wholes'... there are no bits missing from your 'aspect' unless
you assume that there are....hence YCYOR.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I agree with you!
There is only One Energy which functions as if it is an infinite amount
of individual beings and/or co-creators.
! The One is and functions as the Many !
We are the Whole but "function" as a particular aspect. An aspect is a
specific "feature" or "characteristic" of the Whole in my view. In the
first place, all this to me, is but a matter of semantics - words words
words. They do not mean much. As I see and experience it in the moment of
nowness - the I AM in the form and function of Gerardus - CAN only
consciously BE what he amounts to in a practical sense.
Practicality IS Spirituality to me...
Gerardus does not FUNCTION *AS* the Entire Infinite Whole. This is why I do
not use the same terminology as you do (I used to in my Poems and my
Cookies). It also is easier on people not familiar with what they really
are. If you tell them YOU ARE THE CREATOR - PERIOD --- they walk away from
you and you have conveyed absolutely nothing! Eventually we all figure out
who or what we really are anyway...
Here is also what I think of YCYOR - we as human beings only create our own
perceptions! Perceptions Only!! As human beings we do not create the
underlying reality of the Universal Mind and its infinite nuances in and out
of time. This is the result of ALL individual co-creators, high and low,
and/or all Beings and Creatures as such, including ourselves - in and out of
time...
I have written about all this extensively in
http://www.soulwise.net/25i-ask.htm
And in my other latest articles.
Here is a small excerpt of the article above.
Our subconsciousness is our Soul and our Soul is The IS...
We are instruments of our Soul, we are thought-forms, while our Soul and/or
all Souls are instruments of the Creator, they are the Representatives of
the Creator. The Creator, The IS - is the deepest level of our own
subconsciousness. So, the human beings we are, and our Souls, emerge from
the Infinite Subconsciousness we call the Creator. By reading this, it all
seems as if all these different subconsciousnesses are three or four or
multi different forces, this is not so. In actuality they are One. They are
aspects of each other! There is only One Energy - this Energy is Creation or
The IS. The IS contains All! When we look at this again, we could say: that
our subconsciousness is our Soul and our Soul is The IS. Which is the
Underlying Reality of the Totality of Creation. It sustains Creation and is
Creation...
The Creator or The IS and our subconsciousness are One...
We are as much an aspect of The IS, as that The IS makes up the totality of
ourselves. We are One and each other. There is only One Being or Energy in
the universe and it is the Infinite Subconsciousness or The IS. The IS
produces and -is- the universe or creation. So again, The IS and our
subconsciousness are One! This is why it is possible to expand infinitely
upon our own awareness or greatness. Living as a human being is a specific
aspect or nature of this expansion. Expansion or reaching for a greater
awareness is our goal! Naturally this takes Time because we as human beings
live in Time and Space at present. In the mean time, the Soul we are an
instrument of - lives beyond time. It is able to travel Time and no doubt it
visits all its instruments occasionally and it is always available when we
are in trouble. For the Soul, all its instruments live within its own
beingness or energy. The Soul is like an energy-balloon without the balloon.
Human beings exist or float within this virtual balloon and they are
reflections of their Soul in matter. We could say therefore: human beings
are expressions in matter of their Soul or Subconsciousness...
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Leonard here:
The 'Intuition' is the soul (super)consciousness, the 'reason' is the
mind consciousness...reason is a very limited tool whilst intuition
is unlimited. Most of what we do is intuitive, our mental and
physical activities. It is only when we use reason that we close
down the intuition and become just illusionary aspects.
I am aspecting now...but returning to wholing and Love, Leonard.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I agree! Our intuition is the actual "Subconsciousness of Creation"
and we have access to it. In order to become familiar with how to access
this infinite knowing we are living specific lifetimes as human being so
that we may learn to use our subconscious knowing. In the mean time we
can only function by means of what we know or are aware of. As a human
beings this is relatively little compared to what there is to know.
That is why some of us say: I know nothing! And that is ALL I know...
Knowing will always be relative...
There is not one being who knows it all - Gerardus
(The Creator is an unconscious Force - by that I mean - Not Self-Aware!)
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 20:26:31 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TL] thoughtless presence
Reply-To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
At 06:45 PM 12/25/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Hallo Gerardus, Gerard here,
For a long time I have the feeling that in our
discussions one important point is missing (or that I
missed that point because I haven't read everything).
I have thought about it for months before I write it
down and I hope I can make myself understood.
Gerardus here:
Yes, I think you will as usual...
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Gerard here:
Reading about: " I am the creator, I shape my own
reality, I have free will, I desire to move from 3D to
4D etc." , I have been wondering: "who is this I".
Gerardus here:
This I is an Illusionary Self and in actuality does not exist. We are
illusions! However, in the dream of the Creator We Are - we do exist. The
dream is real! It is the dreamer that needs to be awakened by its
experiences. We are this illusionary dreamer. It is the figment or main
character of its own dream. There are only dreams and as human beings we
live those dreams as virtual lifetimes in order to discover the Real "I" We
Are, and in order to know what we as the real "I" can do and dream about.
Our Life is a Play of the "I"...
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Gerard here:
For me a man is a wave in the infinite ocean of life.
Like a wave, when you personalize it, can claim: "I
was born on the coast of Peru, formed by the tide, the
wind and the ocean, I am so old, so wide, so strong
etc. In reality, however, the wave is just an
excitation of the ocean, is the ocean when it calms
down.
Gerardus here:
What you say is so, but as long as the wave is a wave it behaves and thinks
like a wave. It is real within its self-created dream or reality - which is
an illusion. The outside Life of Mind is that way. It is Creation being
itself - which is the Creator dreaming. The Creator dreams and Creation is
its dream. Creation IS you IS me IS everybody. It is ONE Energy doing its
Thing infinitely...
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Gerard here:
Like the wave I can say: "I am Gerard, 71 years old,
retired, wife, children etc. I refer to all kinds of
objects to identify myself but in the mean time I know
that I am a ripple in the infinite ocean of
consciousness in motion and when my mind rests I am
this ocean of life, infinite, unbounded, eternal,
invincible etc.
Gerardus here:
Yes, You are the Ocean - absolutely so!
Why do you come back and be a wave again?
You do - because the Ocean is also waves periodically...
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Gerard here:
In Indian philosophy they speak about the self and the
higher Self. The problem is that the higher Self has
no I to it. Experiencing it in deep meditation it is
just what we talked about the other day: "thoughtless
presence", no I, no desire, no thought, just "presence
or awareness". In that state I am out of the state of
duality, relativity, mind. I transcended all that. You
can have this state together with waking, dreaming or
sleeping and when you have it permanently it is called
Cosmic Consciousness.
Gerardus here:
Yes, indeed! Well expressed. The thing is, that we as the "I" have
committed ourselves to dream and be creation. You do not have to be! Yet,
you come back. Is it because you are still teaching yourself ( and others)
about all this? I think so. We play the game and get lost. Sooner or later
we see that it is a game and we slowly but surely escape from the
playground. This takes time and endurance. We set it up that way. If the
task was to be the "Presence" only forever - there would be no Creation or
any expression of this "Presence". We would have missed knowing our
capabilities and/or potentials of being Creation in all its beautiful and
sordid details...
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Gerard here:
The points I want to make are:
1. It's the nature of the mind to go in, because left
to itself the mind goes in and the small self wants to
become big Self and finds fulfillment there. Out of
the sphere of relativity you find fulfillment in your
own Self. By thinking about all problems of life we
bind the mind to the surface, we keep it busy, have it
explore all avenues of life and keep it from going in.
I think there should be a balance between going out
and going in. And to say it clearly, going in is
essential, going out is entertainment.
Gerardus here:
Yes, to attain this balance and be able to voluntarily change back and forth
is the ideal situation and we are all working towards that goal. YET - I say
YET! - the goal already has been reached a billion times a billion, for we
have been before were we now stumble - to erect ourselves and continue the
journey to but another end - that is yet the same - The Presence or Infinite
Light We Are...
To be "there" or to be "here" is neither here nor there - for we are ALL in
all positions and/or beings at all times in the first place. To think
differently is being subjected to the illusionary reality of being lost in
ignorance. It makes the Play. So, the only difference is that we at this
moment in this infinite dream are focused as you and I, possibly thinking
that we need to go somewhere. This is not so! All that needs to be done is
to enjoy the moment to its utmost and laugh at the whole of it. Laughter is
the highway to freedom, while at the same time we are free to laugh or cry.
Life is the expression of our needs...
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Gerard here:
2. In my humble opinion it doesn't make much
difference if I go from 3D to 4D because in 4D I am
still in the field of relativity, of excitation and
the purpose of life is to transcend all relativity to
come to experience THAT of which the Gita says: " I am
That, thou art That, everything is That". For me That
is pure consciousness, bliss, silence, thoughtless
presence, home, a screen on which the images of life
play without affecting the screen.
Gerardus here:
Yes, you are absolutely right! Please consider this - moving from one
density to another is as much a natural progression as the boy becoming the
father and the father becoming the grandfather. It all belongs to Life in
Total and the Nature of it. Yet - you may return to The Presence anytime you
desire to do so by meditation or for good - but if you decide to do this for
good - you would miss the last half of the journey I call the Progression of
Consciousness. We would miss you as well...
It kind of means to jump from grade three to grade twelve because you are
smart enough to skip all these grades. In the mean time, others would miss
you wherever you are not. Again - there is nowhere to go or to be promoted
to - except the movement from one plane to another, which is the nature of
our being and can be the enjoyment of the moment. To enjoy this to
perfection is what needs to be learned. If you mastered it and left, your
posts would be missed on TriLite for those who need to see The Infinite
Light within themselves AS their self in transit through the planes of their
expression or Creation as a
Whole...
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Gerard here:
I could elaborate more on this but I would like to
know if I made myself clear and if it is a point of
discussion for the group. I am just telling about my
feelings and I have had them for a long time so one
day I had to write them down. Which I did now. Gerard
Gerardus here:
You have expressed in words what I have contemplated myself. I have tried to
express this in my articles possibly, but you have put your finger on the
Know of Being. Why this - why that? In actuality, it does not make one iota
of a difference what we do or not do - the only task is to enjoy who or what
we are by being what we do. We laugh - God laughs! You do it your way - I
do it my way. Great Thoughts - excellent post and please keep them coming...
To celebrate our diversity with understanding is what Life is for - Gerardus
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:14:51 -0800
To: TriLite@yahoogroups.com
From: Gerardus
Subject: Re: [TL] presence
*Gerard here:
Yes, all life is about awakening. My
point is that awakening can only happen by going in,
by experiencing my inner Self, contacting the kingdom
of heaven like the Bible says. With me it happened
that way and I wonder if all discussions on TriLite
can bring this about.
Gerardus here:
You say that awakening happened to you when you experienced your inner self.
My question now is: what does it mean to be awakened? What is it to you?
How much awakened is awakened? What is full awakening? By being awakened -
I MEAN/UNDERSTAND that one has attained the Buddha or Christ Consciousness.
Is that what happened?
Discussions on TriLite are part or aspects or "doorways" of/to waking up,
they are aspects of learning. Getting to know! TriLite is like a
teaching-device and the posts are lessons. Naturally, the best lesson is
experience. In a way TL is an experience as well. Discussions make us think,
and especially so when we have to convey our thought to others in a fashion
that makes sense. And no, it is not likely that by reading anybody's post
that all of a sudden one becomes fully awakened. At most, or even at least,
we can have AHA Moments. A tiny light goes on and we say: Right! - that is
the way it is. It enlightens us - full enlightenment to me is full
awakening. Possibly the Inner Self comes down and occupies the body in a
greater sense and or maybe even fully. I do not know - I am not fully
awakened and am still learning...
Then, I feel that we all walk different paths and for some of us this means
that we meditate and experience our inner Self, while for others we try to
explain certain understanding in words and by golly all of a sudden we
understand things even better ourselves. Especially so, if our writing is
like channeling. The words and thereby understandings just come or happen.
Another thing is, that many of us live Dominant Lifetimes, but very very few
of us live a lifetime within which we fully awaken. How is a fellow living
a dominant lifetime going to fully awaken? Fat chance. It's not his turn...
Enlightenment to me also means - having Knowledge! Wisdom! Being Wise!
This can come many ways including by meditation naturally. Or by inspirations
or intuitions. Last point on this one: I do not think that enlightenment or
awakening is something we can consciously search or look for. When the time
is ripe IT will come and look for us. We can long for it, but in a way this
means that we are not quite happy with the way things are. In the mean
time, these are my opinions and by no means let they stop you from doing
what you feel right...
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Gerard here:
To go out brings you further
away from yourself, to go in brings you into contact
with That by which everything else is known. My
question is if intellect can dissolve the ego like
experiencing the Self can. I think we underestimate
the power of going in. But, maybe, this illusionary
dreamer is just talking in his sleep.
Gerardus here:
Well, ALL those not yet awakened - are asleep. So we are all sleep-talking.
You said: "But, maybe, this illusionary dreamer is just talking in his
sleep". Means to me that you are not quite sure either...
In the mean time, you bring up a valuable point about going within. There
must be a balance and an inner need to go in, or not go in. Life has many
purposes. If it was only about going in - why did we come to earth? I
figure that we all do what we need to do and the one person cannot say that
this is better and this is not. We are all different and I feel that only a
fully awakened master CAN know what others should do. Usually they just sit
there and smile. They know that all is as it should be! Leaves all of us to
doing what feels right for us. The Inner Self is the One who will urge us to
do what's next. It is expressed in feelings I figure...
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Gerard here:
I only respond to the first part of our discussion.
The rest will follow later and in connection with
waking up I found a nice story from Anthony the Mello,
which I like and which follows here.
Gerardus here:
Yes, we can discuss the rest later. Plenty of time...
I will read de Mellow now and then send this post to TL - Gerardus
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