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... My point here Is ...
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when I as an illusionary person know that I do not actually Exist?

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02 - 1995






                  Here follow some the posts I wrote to several lists. 
          Mainly to lightwork-l / Meaning List / TriLite and some other lists.
                               ... Have fun and Enjoy ...

           ! WOW - All I can say is that I sure wrote a lot of posts - WOW !

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Januari 1995 
From: gerardus  
Subject: Re: Mass Landings/Ascension 
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Federico here:
The whole idea behind ascention as a concept is to live up to it, 
to make oneself better in the lives we live today so that when it 
happens, we all have the 'required' level to fulfill this process. 
Should this not happen as we anticipate it to be, we should not feel 
dissapointment as we should have had, in years of living up to improve 
ourselves, become better human beings by any standars. 
In any case the whole idea of the mass landing seems to be an 
atypical scenario for the natural evolution of events, but it's being 
carried away as a sort of emergency alternative I feel it should be even 
better if we could by-pass this sort of 'emergency' by natural means 
rather than by using external help. 
Federico.

Gerardus here: 
Very well put Federico! I have had many surprises in my life. One was that 
"I" (just imagen - ME??) started to write poetry to beat the best. ( Well, 
in my opinion) surprises are the forerunners of Miracles. I for one, do 
not know what really is going to happen. One thing is for sure though - we 
all get what we deserve. The future is the result of our lives possible 
over the last 40 to 100,000 years. If it's not in the bag now, I'm afraid 
that we cannot catch up up in "overtime" living!  Easy does it!  Relax man. 
Pick me up Scotty... I'm ready! - Gerardus


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Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 21:07:14 -0700
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Subject: Re: ringing - true???
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To One and All... 
and Hello KenDon and Richard...
> I guess this depends upon how we define our ultimate self. 
>Actually, Kumara (my Divine Design Mate) and I were discussing this the 
>other day. It is her opinion that after we all return to the Source we 
>just do it again, at the next available Big Bang into universe of form. I 
>see it as this: After we merge with the Source, that is it; "I" as an 
>individual becomes part of the undifferentiated Ocean of Everything. 
>There are worse fates. As far as the spiral goes, The Source is 
>undoubtedly *very* resourceful and probably does not need to spiral. My 
>guess would be "unique circles." Kendon.

Gerardus here: 
I love your discussions and I have a tiny itchy feeling that the Big Bang is 
an unnecessary irregularity in the scheme of things and the "recycling" of 
energies (or forms of matter) or individualities from the Void or Womb out 
into the phenomenal universes are ongoing happenings in mind. I feel that 
the entire universe is an infinite Consciousness in a Dream-State into which 
we dream-casts ourselves again and again. (With or without the help of other 
aspects of ourselves)

The only big bang that takes place in my view is the bang that takes place 
in people's head when they get the drift of things. Knowing about all this 
however is far from joining the Source or Void. The conscious realization 
of who or what we really are might be somewhere halfway the Cycle or Path. 
But what is half way? What is arriving? What is beginning? What is knowing? 
It is nothing but "The Realization Of Self" or "The Reality Of Self". 

This Self is on an Infinite Journey without true destination for it never 
left its own Consciousness in the first place. It just looks that way in the 
Dream. It (we) therefore are all things simultaneously! The illusionary 
Dream however makes it possible to be a seemingly independent aspect or so 
called individual and enjoy the show in stages of little selves by means of 
their distortions or realities. The entire scheme is a Holographic Unbroken 
Wholeness and its projected Images. Naturally each Image contains the Whole!
BTW: The abbreviation of "The Realization Of Self" 
                                    or 
                           "The Reality Of Self" 

Naturally what really goes on, does not really matter for the object of the 
game is to reach a stage in which it becomes Fun to be alive. Fun includes 
trying to help others. Which in my book is called Love or Understanding! 
However... what do I know??? As always...
                                                .!, 
Light... Love... and Laughter... *!*  Gerardus {o^-} 
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Love at first byte!                              `
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:15:34 -0700
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Subject: Re: Chacras
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>Rich-- 
>Thank you so much for your insights into male/female energy. It has 
>been very helpful. As one who has been told I must learn to deal 
>with the male energy within and not really "knowing" what that meant, 
>your message has given me a far greater perspective at a crucial 
>time. Thank you. 
>
Gerardus here Donna:
Read your comments on the M/F aspects of Love. There are so many things 
that I have taken for granted (think I know) that it is hard to grasp the 
tremendous amount of things I miss. Thank you for asking Richard. He is a 
very wise person. How are you doing with Disk-7? 

Greetings and as always... Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus. 
I am 100% in favor of an Unconditional Ascension. This means that 
everybody, good/bad or indifferent, is raised to a higher level of 
Awareness, regardless of whether or not their karmic sequences are 
completed. As far as I am concerned, each and everyone is forgiven 
whatever they did.

Naturally is you want to stay in a 3D karmic environment you may do 
so by reincarnating upon a different planet. The Earth is scheduled 
to ascend! So, let's hop on the next Wave of Creativity. Enough of 
this Darkness, let's enter the Light of Love - The Fifth Dimension!

Gerardus.


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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:16:04 -0700
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What's your Signature Gerardus?
 
I am 100% in favor of an Unconditional Ascension. This means that 
everybody, good/bad or indifferent, is raised to a higher level of 
Awareness, regardless of whether or not their karmic sequences are 
completed. As far as I am concerned, each and everyone is forgiven 
whatever they did.

Naturally is you want to stay in a 3D karmic environment you may do 
so by reincarnating upon a different planet. The Earth is scheduled 
to ascend! So, let's hop on the next Wave of Creativity. Enough of 
this Darkness, let's enter the Light of Love - The Fifth Dimension!

Gerardus.

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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:09:12 -0700
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From: gerardus 
Subject: RE: Seth on storms (was: Electrical appliances)
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Dave...
>(from The Nature of Personal Reality: A Seth Book, by Jane Roberts 
>translated more or less correctly from my Danish edition)
One of the Seth quotes that has stuck in my memory over the years is: 
"Without storms you [humanity] would all go insane."

Gerardus here: 

I remember Seth well, although not too many quotes. About the above? 
Actually I feel, that due to the fact that we lost contact with the Inner 
Self ages ago, we have been insane for quite a while. But then, since I see 
the Earth as an Experience and as well as a School for Consciousness to 
awaken - by whatever experience - insanity is but a temporary syndrome! It 
really does not matter what we experience, sooner or later we will all reach 
the Inner Equanimity of the Christ. 

Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus.

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Feb 06/95 Richard Anderson wrote:

>I used to think, that the only reason why we had to go through
>all this suffering was, that there was no other way. That evolution
>took the time it took. And perhaps it is (was) so.
>
>But then I began to think of what would happen, if we all, by the will of
>God or whatever, suddenly were enlightened.  No one would lose anything,
>everyone would win. There would be even more Light in the universe as
>a whole.  Suddenly there was no reason for karma anymore, we can just
>let it disappear, and no one gets hurt! We could also let this universe
>end now in this instant, and it would hurt no one - everything would
>return to the Light.  Where we really want to be (I guess?) :)
>
>I have often wondered why there was so much suffering on this planet,
>mostly caused by ourselves. Especially after I had an experience of
>my true identity, as I feel it was. Why are we not what we *really* are?
>I don't think that life is meant to be that crazy as it is at present
>here on Earth. KenDon talked about our guilt and our feeling of
>being unworthy. Try to read the file below (I have cut off a lot of it,
>so some of the parts listed in the table of contents are missing - the
>whole file can be downloaded from spirit.html).   
Rich.


Gerardus here:
In my humble little mind, I have a very tiny reflection of the 
Universal and Infinite Mind. This tiny reflection whispers: In the 
beginning that never was, there was only "unconsciousness".  An 
infinite amount of it!! 

This "unconsciousness" stirred into some kind of awareness of itself 
and eventually became smart enough to create surroundings for itself 
in which it started to live as Individual Forms and/or Entities.  We 
as Mankind are one of these forms and we "issue" from this 
unconsciousness as innocent and unconscious beings.

So here we are: Innocent and Unconscious and we live on this earth as 
if it was a school, in which we by means of our own mistakes, learn to 
awaken and become CONSCIOULY AWARE!  This means naturally; that we go 
through a lot of suffering in order to do so!

So Mankind is the *Unconscious Creator* or *Beginning* and by means of 
living in its creation it becomes Consciously Aware of Who or What it 
really is and once we do - we understand why we suffer.  Naturally, we 
do not like it much and the more we do not like it, the more we are 
driven to Levels of Awareness and greater pleasure. 

             Unconsciousness    ---->    Consciousness

             Undifferentiation  ---->    Differentiation 

The Unconscious Creator then becomes conscious in its creation for 
creation is manifested while the Creator is asleep and dreams.  Out of 
this Dream arrises the Jesusses and the Buddhas and all those who are 
ready to SEE that all Things and Beings in the Universe are issued 
from the "Source of Unconsciousness" and awaken into the Light of Awareness.   

  Then it becomes Self Awareness - and eventually it becomes God Awareness. 
                     (I and the Father are one! - Jesus)

So why do we see so much suffering?  
It is because Mankind is born unconsciously - repeatedly and 
repeatedly until he learns how to be born consciously.  This means 
naturally finding the proper parents before we are born and the right 
opportunities to surge ahead and have a headstart. Doing this again 
and again, eventually put us in a position of Conscious Control over 
our Creation.  Some people do not even bother to be born, because they 
know how to step into somebody else's shoes and just keep going.

Since we live in Time and Space, which is a specific and illusionary 
scenery of the Creator's Dream, it is possible to meet our true Self, 
for this true self is the result of all the little selves we have 
been.  This True Self however lives beyond time, and at any instant it 
can contact the struggling little self in Earth's time.  That's why it 
is so nice to call upon our True Self and say: come and reach on out 
and help your Self.  It could be called: meeting your Self coming and 
going!  With or without shoes.  Hmm!

To become my true Self... 
by leaving the Dream (Awakening) is my aim and my Endeavor!  And I'm 
glad to have so many companions to keep me awake and keep me going.  
So be it!   

*!* Gerardus.

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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:09:23 -0700
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From: gerardus 
Subject: Re: Ascension Update
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To One and All... 
about the Kendonian View! 

>Turning Point 
> 
>This Unconditional Ascension marks a turning point in the evolution of the 
>universe. As the information about this Event shoots across the universe, 
>Unconditional Ascensions will grow commonplace: it has set an example, it 
>has shown the way. This snowballing effect will greatly speed the 
>evolutionary process to its conclusion - the grand, unconditional leap of 
>the entire universe back into The Source, ending a Cosmic Day. 

-- Kendon


Gerardus here: 
I've read, understood and immensely enjoyed your Unconditional Ascension 
post KenDon. I feel/intuit that you are absolutely right, after all isn't 
the universe and what happens to us the result of our beliefs/thoughts. So 
believing with all we've got will have no other result than the 
Unconditional Ascension of Humanity. 

Besides, the "unworthy" at this moment are only the "unworthy" in this 
particular experience or lifetime. At other times, they were the very 
"worthy" and we ourselves were the "unworthy"! The point is, what we are at 
this time is but a sliver's worth of all the endless experiences of our so 
called past. Our Soul is the very "Christ Light" experiencing its creation 
and the 3D Phase or the 'Phase of Darkness' has come to an end... 
Enter the Light of Love!  

Light... Love... and Laughter!  *!*  Gerardus.

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 14:43:42 -0700
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Subject: Re: Flash Point Focus!
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>As to the field of blooming flowers by Gerardus, I like the analogy! 
>I will be patiently longing to run in that field (or fly through it!) 
>Jesse

Well, yes, but flowers do not run or fly Flemming <;)== They just stand 
there and enjoy the light! I see many of them waving in the wind of change 
and a few are just a little taller than I am. There are thunder clouds 
overhead and some might be hailed on. The sun will heal all of them though, 
for no one is without help. Yet, somehow some of us feel alone, for the 
distances between us, look like the separation of ages.

I recognize all the flowers and their names are in the millions. Bees and 
butterflies are around as well, for they are checking out how much honey and 
fragrances we will produce when we bloom. I can hardly wait. In the mean 
time, I'm just fine in doing what I'm doing. And so are the rest of us. 
Enjoying the moment of grace... 

*!* Gerardus 

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Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 20:30:33 -0700
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Subject: Re: Cancer and AIDS
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>Just got this from a Danish friend of mine. It reflects similar principles 
>of integrating polarities that I regularly use with my own clients. Nobody 
>with AIDS has come to me, though. 
> 
>- Flemming


THE MYSTERY ABOUT CANCER AND AIDS SOLVED!

Hi Flemming...
With great interest I read this article. I feel/intuit that this "Great 
Light - Torben" is Right! The body is a mixture of energies and their 
polarities and no doubt a flow of these energies that is hampered by the 
stagnation of Non-Feeling must be fatal in the end. Life is Feeling Itself! 
A Human Being basically is a "Feeling Being" that has been taught to think 
consciously. 

This 'conscious thinking' in many cases interferes with the flow of energies 
and voila - Trouble! That's why with rest at night and rest in general the 
Feeling Being is able to heal the body. That's also why recreation or doing 
something else is so healthy. And unless work has become our happiness, 
people will get sick and kick the bucket a lot!

Too much work then will be better for us than too little - for as work is 
happiness we cannot help but burst out laughing every minute or so. Good 
show! Please work and enjoy yourself - you All!

Thank you Flemming, for posting this almighty important and thought 
provoking essay. 

Greetings and as always...
                                               .!, 
Light... Love... and Laughter... *!* Gerardus {-^o} 
 


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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 11:34:38 -0700
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Subject: RE: Our Unconsciousness...!
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>> Hello Richard...
>> In the universe there are no accidents as far as I'm concerned. So 
>> whether or not we have been "influenced" by others or not is a normal 
>> occurrence in the Human Evolutionary Journeys. How else would we be able 
>> to experience what we have experienced?? The universe by means of its 
>> Human Expression has gone into areas we might not necessarily like and 
>> see as an interference from neg. influences. I see it as a necessary 
>> experience in order to experience the full gamut of human experiences 
>> that are possible or open to us. Since we are the Source, in many ways 
>> the Miracle is to lose sight of what we are! IOW: to be the Source is 
>> normal but to lose ourselves in our Dream of whatever calamity is the 
>> Miracle. 
>> In my view it entirely depends on the curriculum of the Creator or Source 
>> of our particular "universe of experiences" what is to be allowed and 
>> what's not. (And not on the accidental interference (tampering) of 
>> another species - this possibly was needed in order for us to experience 
>> what was in the curriculum for us in the first place) 
>> 
>> Possibly there are universes with worlds were war and misery are not 
>> allowed and where ET's are never heard of. I don't know... In the 
>> universe You and I live there are many things we might not appreciate at 
>> this moment, but I accept them, for I know that our "Bigger Hands" are 
>> holding us tenderly. Who these "Bigger Hands" belong to we all know... 
>> they are our own on a different Level. 
>> 
> 
>Hello Gerardus, 
> 
>I would rather put it that way, that what happens, happens - if we allow 
>it to happen. The whole universe is made up of interacting energies, and 
>we can choose to be either creators of victims of others creations. I don't 
>believe that the Creator interferes in anything, unless he is asked to. 
>We are given our free will to do what we want, and so are those who might 
>want to control us. If we allow them to control us, they will, and noone 
>will (must) interfere. These E.T.'s are to my knowledge still present and 
>doing their work, and I think it's important to be aware of it. 
> 
>Things can be seen from many levels, and seen from the higher levels things 
>are just a game - everything is allright. But that does not mean that we 
>just have to sit and watch the play. There is a fight going on here on 
>this planet (and all over in the universe), and we are a part of it. 
>The fight between light and dark is a part of evolution - without it there 
>would be no progress. We have to fight, as long as we are on the levels 
>where this fight is, and the fight is both inside ourselves and outside 
>of us. I don't know if you have reached the level where the fight have 
>ceased, but I have not. 
> 
>Our confrontation with these E.T's may be one of our learning experiences, 
>but then one of the things we have to learn is not to accept this 
>manipulation. Until we do this, we will continue to be manipulated. 
>However we want to handle this must be up to each one of us. Just we stay 
>positive. 
> 
>Unconditional ascension may be a reality, but until then the fight is 
>still there. Enjoy the game. 
> 
>Light and peace, 
>-Rich

Hi again Richard... and All...
I agree with what you say in general, but I feel that we as Mankind have a 
certain self-predetermined curriculum with certain cycles and time tables. 
For example it is no coincidence that our world is awakening at the moment 
as well as falling apart. It is meant to be this way... There are certain 
pre-determined self-planned periods we go through and whoever learns his 
lessons and is awake enough, is going to benefit from his efforts. We are 
rapidly approaching a time of Harvest or Graduation. I'm in favor of an 
Unconditional Ascension or graduation, however, not necessarily is this 
going to happen. Some flowers bloom and others just wither away. 
Is that what you mean by: >> I would rather put it that way, that what 
happens, happens - if we allow it to happen. << ?? 
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You say: >> I don't believe that the Creator interferes in anything, unless 
he is asked to. <<
Yes, I agree. Although the only one to ask is the One We Are! Our 
thoughts, ideas and belief systems are the things that determine for us what 
this Creator is up to. The Creative Force itself - I feel is neutral. It 
is there for us to do with what we chose to do. 
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>>The fight between light and dark is a part of evolution - without it there 
>>would be no progress. We have to fight, as long as we are on the levels 
>>where this fight is, and the fight is both inside ourselves and outside 
>>of us. I don't know if you have reached the level where the fight have 
>>ceased, but I have not. 
I am not sure whether I would want to call it a "fight". I see it as a game 
in which there eventually are only Winners. The Creator (us) is/are 
infinite beings - what else would you want to do but play?? 
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>>Our confrontation with these E.T's may be one of our learning experiences, 
>>but then one of the things we have to learn is not to accept this 
>>manipulation. Until we do this, we will continue to be manipulated. 
>>However we want to handle this must be up to each one of us. Just we stay 
>>positive. 
Yes, this is exactly what I meant in my previous post. Their (ET's) so 
called interference is a necessary affair for us to experience in order to 
realize that we do not have to be dominated or controlled. It also gave us 
the opportunity to sink deeper in our creation of matter and made us forget 
Who or What we really are. They are not our enemy but they provide us with 
the experience that we never would have been able to have without them. We 
not necessarily do have to enjoy this experience, it's a lesson. 
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>>Unconditional ascension may be a reality, but until then the fight is 
>>still there. Enjoy the game.
Yes, I enjoy the game. Presently! But there were lots of times in my life 
that I did not like to go to school or go to work. Now that that is all over 
and done with - I'm sitting pretty. Is that being smug?? 
Greetings and... as always...
.!, 
Light... Love... and Laughter... *!* Gerardus {-^o} 
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 22:01:07 -0700
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> Mac Morgan writes: 
> 
>>Hi, everyone, I've joined this list primarily because I am endlessly 
>fascinated by both science and theology, though not particularly 
>scientific nor religious. 
> 
> Hello Mac- I think this is more the rule than the exception- people who 
>are interested in *both* science and theology, and in what relation the two 
>may have, are not apt to be either scientists or theologians _per se_. I 
>would say they are likely to be rather more "generalists" than either of 
>these, and probably best described as *philosophers*, since when one seeks 
>the relations between two diverse fields like these, one is really seeking 
>some unifying "philosophy of" both- don't you think? 
> 
> The effort to define Divinity doesn't really work anyway, I think. The 
>Divine *defines*, more than it *can be* defined.
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To One and All...
I also am new to this list and although I do not really know what position I 
am from and neither know exactly where I am going, I would still like to 
say; that the definition of the Divine is within the Self. For the World 
and the Universe are the creations of the individual awareness, who in its 
travels through the ages awakens to the realization that all is well. 
Naturally, the world of man in general would not have to agree with the 
above. Nobody really would have to agree, for Life is an Individual Affair 
in which we all eventually experience that Life is what you believe it to be.
Yes, Science and Theology are the left and right brains of the philosopher. 
To get them working in balance is the art of the Great. So be it...
*!* Gerardus

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    Gerardus writes:

>>I also am new to this list and although I do not really know what position
>>I am from and neither know exactly where I am going, I would still like to
>>say; that the definition of the Divine is within the Self.  Life is 
an >>Individual Affair in which we all eventually experience that Life 
is what >>you believe it to be.  Yes, Science and Theology are the 
left and right >>brains of the philosopher. To get them working in 
balance is the art of >>the Great.   So be it...


>    Sounds like you have it all figured out, Mr. Gerardus! So what do you
>think of Tipler's version of the Omega Point Theory?
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Gerardus here:

Fair Question!

Please don't take my response as the final conclusion...

There is no doubt in my mind, that Tipler is right in his mind.  One 
of the beautiful characteristics of the universe is that 'everybody' 
is right in his own mind.

The universe and its manifestations rearranges itself according to our 
belief systems, great or small, and as stated in my first statement: 
Life is what you believe it to be!  Life is an Individual Affair!  At 
least here on Earth.  In the Spirit World (Life as called Hereafter) 
most of us will have united with other aspects of ourselves and then 
we will have lost our sense of separation, but still maitain our sense 
of individuality. We have become many so to speak...

Here on Earth however; there is no other Truth, but the Truth that 
there is only Individual Truth!

Whether Tipler is right or wrong in my mind or judgement is absolutely 
irrelevant.  To either me or Tipler!  I do not know the person, but I 
do know that all great thinkers, writers, scientists, philosphers and 
what have you, eventually come to the conclusion that 'everybody' is 
right and 'nobody' is right - simultaneously. 

Being right or wrong is a personal mindset.  It is supposed to be this 
way on Earth, for it is the Realm of Separation or bluntly put: Nobody 
knows what s/he's talking about here on Earth!!  The entire scenery is 
an illusionary reality that could be interpreted any which way.

The universe is neither "this" nor "that".  It is ALL Things All at 
once! Including Crazy and Divine.  Whatever these words mean to 
people. To me they are words that indicate certain human ideas.  It's 
a mind-set of people that are open to suggestions. 

To response to your statement that I have it all figured out; I would 
like to say: that I have it figured out up to now.  This does not mean 
that I'm finished figuring!  Life to me is an infinite journey, either 
in Body or Spirit form, and I know that I know next to nothing 
compared to the things that are still there to discover.  For in a 
direct sense, the Universe *is* what I think it is - for my thoughts, 
imagination, intuition and joy of discovery will give me the impetus 
to explore it forever, for we all create our own reality or illusions. 

Arrogant, self assured?  Naturally!  But I'm also humble and most 
grateful to be an aspect in an infinite scheme of illusions and 
realities.  All self-created for we are the very *Creative Energy* in 
personal form.  I am a universal student or entity or learning 
consciousness.  Oh, yes, I'm also a very ordinary human being, 
subjected to joy as well as sadness.  At one time my life even 
included loneliness, mediocrity and feelings of inferiority.  I have 
overcome many of these states of minds and at the moment I feel great. 
So glad you responded to me introduction...


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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:41:45 -0700
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>Hello, 
>As a newbie on the omega-point list, I'd like to start off by proposing 
>that Tipler's theory of crunch is more metaphor than anything else: 
>The big bang was a metaphor for God emanating the creation from Himself, 
>and the big crunch is a metaphor for all things returning to God, 
>homecoming, after they've exhausted the "world" (worldliness). 
>This metaphor may be dramatized or reflected in what plays out in the 
>physical world. I suspect the metaphor is primary and physics secondary, 
>but I am open to looking at them as parallel and equal. Comments? 
> 
>On another note, I've always been left high and dry by Bohm's 
>ontology and reference to consciousness in physics. I think Goswami may 
>follow on this line. I would ask: whose consciousness? Is it possible 
>to have a consciousness without one who is conscious? 
> 
>C.B. Willis 
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To One and All...
Yes, here's another newbie on this list. I would like to add to the above, 
that the only Big Bang I recognize and celebrate, is the Big Bang that took 
place in my consciousness when I understood who or what I really am. God 
after that transforms my Beingness, for this Imminent Force and I recognize 
each other as mirror images and discoverers. We and the rest of our 
creation are an Infinite Continuum...
*!* Gerardus Everardus Tros ! All Realities are Virtual Realities !





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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 19:30:55 -0700
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> Gerardus writes:
>>I also am new to this list and although I do not really know what position 
>>I am from and neither know exactly where I am going, I would still like to 
>>say; that the definition of the Divine is within the Self. Life is an 
>>Individual Affair in which we all eventually experience that Life is what 
>>you believe it to be. Yes, Science and Theology are the left and right 
>>brains of the philosopher. To get them working in balance is the art of 
>>the Great. So be it...

> Sounds like you have it all figured out, Mr. Gerardus! So what do you 
>think of Tipler's version of the Omega Point Theory? 
------------------
Fair Question!
Please don't take my response as the final conclusion...
There is no doubt in my mind, that Tipler is right in his mind. One of the 
beautiful characteristics of the universe is that 'everybody' is right in 
his own mind.
The universe and its manifestations rearranges itself according to our 
belief systems, great or small, and as stated in my first statement: Life is 
what you believe it to be! Life is an Individual Affair! At least here on 
Earth. In the Spirit World (Life as called Hereafter) most of us will have 
united with other aspects of ourselves and then we will have lost our sense 
of separation, but still maitain our sense of individuality. We have become 
many so to speak...
Here on Earth however; there is no other Truth, but the Truth that there is 
only Individual Truth!
Whether Tipler is right or wrong in my mind or judgement is absolutely 
irrelevant. To either me or Tipler! I do not know the person, but I do 
know that all great thinkers, writers, scientists, philosphers and what have 
you, eventually come to the conclusion that 'everybody' is right and 
'nobody' is right - simultaneously. 
Being right or wrong is a personal mindset. It is supposed to be this way 
on Earth, for it is the Realm of Separation or bluntly put: Nobody knows 
what s/he's talking about here on Earth!! The entire scenery is an 
illusionary reality that could be interpreted any which way.
The universe is neither "this" nor "that". It is ALL Things All at once! 
Including Crazy and Divine. Whatever these words mean to people. To me they 
are words that indicate certain human ideas. It's a mind-set of people that 
are open to suggestions. 
To response to your statement that I have it all figured out; I would like 
to say: that I have it figured out up to now. This does not mean that I'm 
finished figuring! Life to me is an infinite journey, either in Body or 
Spirit form, and I know that I know next to nothing compared to the things 
that are still there to discover. For in a direct sense, the Universe *is* 
what I think it is - for my thoughts, imagination, intuition and joy of 
discovery will give me the impetus to explore it forever, for we all create 
our own reality or illusions. 
Arrogant, self assured? Naturally! But I'm also humble and most grateful 
to be an aspect in an infinite scheme of illusions and realities. All 
self-created for we are the very *Creative Energy* in personal form. I am a 
universal student or entity or learning consciousness. Oh, yes, I'm also a 
very ordinary human being, subjected to joy as well as sadness. At one time 
my life even included loneliness, mediocrity and feelings of inferiority. I 
have overcome many of these states of minds and at the moment I feel great. 
So glad you responded to me introduction...
.!, 
Light... Love... and Laughter... *!* Gerardus {-^o} 
\~/ 
Love at first byte! `
! All Realities are Virtual Realities ! 
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 16:52:04 -0700
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> """Whirlpools of Perception""" 
> 
> KenDon, Lori, Gerardus et all 
> 
>In reading all your wonderfull Perceptions of consciousness & reality. 
>I'm reminded of the limitations of our lanaguage and written word. An 
>old book comes into my mind "Doors of Perception" by A. Huxley. 
>Love you all and feel very close to everyone, maybe we have met before ?
>Lou 
-----------
I think you are right Lou. I wouldn't mind meeting someone I never met 
before. I wonder if that is possible as we all are from the same Source?

Whirlpools of Who's Who 
all traveling 
in the same Boat of Perception 
in which all realities that are virtual 
create Strangers who know each other. 

P.S. 
This is the only Boat nobody ever misses! 
HHmmm!?!

Greetings and as always...
Light... Love... and Laughter... *!* Gerardus {-^o} 


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February 1996
Hi F-L...
With great interest I read this article. I feel/intuit that this "Great 
Light - Torben" is Right! The body is a mixture of energies and their 
polarities, and no doubt a flow of these energies is hampered by the 
stagnation of Non-Feeling must be fatal in the end. Life is Feeling Itself! 
A Human Being basically is a "Feeling Being" that has been taught to think 
consciously. 

This 'conscious thinking' in many cases interferes with the flow of energies 
and voila - Trouble! That's why with rest at night and rest in general the 
Feeling Being is able to heal the body. That's also why recreation or doing 
something else is so healthy. And unless work has become our happiness, 
people will get sick and kick the bucket a lot!

Too much work then will be better for us than too little - for as work is 
happiness we cannot help but burst out laughing every minute or so. Good 
show!  Please work and enjoy yourself - you All!

Thank you F-L for posting this almighty important and thought 
provoking essay. 

Greetings and as always - Gerardus

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February 1996

Gerardus here:
The Baker and the Human Cookies...
At one time there was a baker who knew how to make all kinds of different 
cookies. The only way to make these cookies 'real' and 'interesting' 
however, it required that the baker became the dough of the cookies. On the 
other hand - one advantage was - that all cookies became 'alive'. Sooner or 
later these cookies grew up and became human beings. They started to see 
that all human beings were different as well as that they had different 
colors. In the mean time, they have been 'alive' in different cookie plays 
for billions of years.

Up to this very day - there are but a few cookie human beings, who remember 
who or what they really are and where they came from. When they tell their 
story - they are laughed at - because the other human beings see no fun in 
being the invisible baker equally... 

They rather play this silly game of calling each other black, white or 
orange, or any other color in between. They also like to shove each other 
around a lot and crumble each other to pieces! It gives the winning beings 
a certain glow. They will keep doing this until they understand that all 
human beings are equal and that all of them are the invisible baker in the 
first place... 

End of story - Gerardus


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February 1996
Hello All...
The self-sufficiency I feel to be of importance, IS, the self-sufficiency in 
the mental regions of life or existence. To be self-sufficient in thought or 
even in reverence possibly - that is my quest. Naturally, as physical 
beings, we live on "Cosmic Welfare" from day one. The air we breathe - the 
milk we drink - the place we live... 

But do we really? 

We need to see this entire matter of life in the physical as an extension of 
ourselves as the Creators of it. This might be hard to do for many, since 
the intuitive truth has not come through. (The Age of Understanding is upon 
us) Existence - Life - Consciousness - Matter is a continuum containing many 
other continuums like time and space as well as the continuum embracing 
animate life and so called inanimate life. There really is no known boarder!

So, there is basically no difference between a rock and a man except for a 
few nerves and an awareness system. The secret of both is in their very 
atomic existence itself. The power that 'moves' their atoms and subatomic 
wavicles to make them what they are - existence in a physical manifestation. 
This Power for both is the same - only functioning differently! 

This I find the Miracle - the Celebration! Not the fact that either we, or 
others, are the Creators of them. We, as the Creative Force so to speak, 
have always existed! While our "show piece" (that what we are as human 
beings) is a forever changing adventure as well as an infinite revelation 
for whoever goes to the limit of the search. Search and you will find - 
knock and the door will we opened!

Knowing that, we realize that All depend on All. Life on Earth is like an 
endless mystical symphony of which the "orchestra we are" is but the 
"show-piece". While all the repair shops, maintenance people, directors and 
composers, including the creators of this orchestra stay in the background. 

Yet - they are present somewhere, but only for the ones who know they are 
there. Some people might believe they exist, however believing is a risky 
business. All could be folly! Knowing is the task...

In the mean time these creators/benefactors/helpers are as much part of the 
"Show Piece" whenever they individually voluntarily appear as teachers or 
philosophers disguised as Kant, Socrates, Spinoza, the Jesusses, the 
Buddhas, the Lao-tzus, including the amateur philosophers on wisdom-l. When 
all the hoopla has been experienced and the game is over, all the 
pieces/energies disappear in the same invisible box again. While this box 
in nothing else but an extension of the Spectrum of Existence that happens 
to be beyond our vision at this time. For all is One.

The entire manifestation/creation in the physical is like an 'audience' that 
appears but for one session - fifty billion years long. Compared to 
infinity this is nothing to speak of. Next time around we are the creators, 
the repair crew, or the so called "invisibles". While in the mean time, all 
these self-declared self-sufficient people on some earth dabble on and have 
their thoughts of discovery. Sooner or later they are bound to find out - 
for NO secrets are possible in but One Mind. This One Mind is the ultimate 
interdependent Miracle upon which all of its inhabitants depend from day 
one. In whatever planes, nooks or crannies they either create or re-visit...

You got me going again - Gerardus
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Feb 1996
To All...   Worlds within Worlds... 

Question: Can two things occupy the same space? 

Answer: What space??

Yet...
I feel that that has been happening since ever!  All realities are virtual 
realities and are only real when viewed or experienced through a certain 
lens or body (like the human body).  IOW: all realities are right where we 
are now.  Neatly separated, like inter-mingling colored smoke, by different 
frequencies and/or patterns of vibration.  Worlds within worlds...

I see the entire universe as mind in which the physical universe is an 
exception.  Which is mind slowed down or trapped light posing as physical 
stuff.  Not any more real or unreal than anything else.  The only thing real 
is the Observer.  The Observer sees, experiences or participates in all 
these realities according to its level of awareness.  
          
   Expand this awareness and it sees, experiences or participates in all!

This Observer or these Observers therefore, exist as all existing 'energies' 
or 'entities' seeing or experiencing themselves and others according to the 
level of their awareness.  They see nothing but other Observers in different 
forms or manifestations of themselves.  All is One - One is All. 

To become a Human Being is like having a 'break' in a very strange 
land - the Physical Reality - where things seem to be separate...

Light... Love... and Laughter!           
*!* Gerardus.
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Feb 1996
>Hello Gerardus
>
>In your opinion, are you and I, and everyone else that is 'aware' of
>their existence, individual observers experiencing the same reality,
>or am I the only 'true' observer in my existence, and everyone else
>is a manifestation of me.
>
S-M


Hello S-M...

Short answer: 
You and I and all are all true observers!  Yet, You and I and all are 
really the only one who observes - we just do it from different viewpoints.

Long answer:
Your question is a very meaningful one - especially for a Meaning list. 
First of all - there is no objective reality out there or anywhere. (Except 
the Ultimate Reality which we are in some form or another - which are all 
forms of the One Observer) What we all encounter 'out there' is a collective 
created effort/reality that changes.  Superimposed upon this collective 
effort, or within it, are our personal realities.  These then can be very 
close to what the collective assumed reality is. It depends on how creative 
one is. 

Some people - like the Buddhas and the Jesusses can create a completely 
different reality - like silencing a storm of multiply fishes and bread.  
These are not miracles but the manipulations of personal realities and the 
creation thereof.  Only Great Masters can do this and a "Son of God" like 
Jesus can handle this like pie - easy like.  Buddha probably could do it - 
but what's the use?  One does not do this lightly!  We all are here to learn 
to become as great as the two I mentioned. Life and/or Earth is the school 
or lesson(s).

Now depending on how and what you understand the last word in your question 
to mean ( me ) determines the verification or truth of your manifestation 
statement

There ultimately is only one force.  You   Me   It   God   The Force  TIL  
or what have you.  So if you speak for the Force - your 'everyone' is a 
manifestation of you - including you!  However, I do not think you meant it 
that way.

So, everyone is a manifestation of the "Infinite US" or the Creator - while 
the you and I on Earth are wondering who creates or manifests who or what.
We all are creating all things together, by means of the One Force that 
lives in all of us and is all of us.  Is this understood?

We all create - we all are the Creator in personal form - and we all are on 
a path of learning how to become aware of who or what we really are and act 
like it.  Then - even a Great Masters has Masters.  I do not think that we 
could visualize the amount of higher beings there really (and we also are).

It is just that we at this moment are not aware as them.  Because we have 
chosen to be little 'snotnoses' in a physical reality in order to learn 
about what we can create and how deep we can get lost in this Creation.  

To re-member is what all of us are striving for - even the ones not 
recognizing that they even want to re-member.  They can't help but come 
closer for they are hanging in the 'wake' of the forerunners.  The Great 
Ones...  The unwiling ones so to speak, will awaken anyway - but not 
necessarily this time around. They might have to go another 26000 years or so.

Good question!   However - my answers are but my answers. There are other 
ways of looking at things. There are many realities and Truths... all right!

*!* Gerardus.
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Feb 1996
>Hi Gerardus, you wrote
>I see the entire universe as mind in which the physical universe is an
>exception.  Which is mind slowed down or trapped light posing as physical
>stuff.  Not any more real or unreal than anything else. The only thing real
>is the Observer.
>
>Very interesting construct of reality. What influences have been important
>in your synthesis of this reality?
>
>L-L


Hi L-L...    
It's difficult to tell what precisely brought me to these conclusions. They 
are only a 'model' and I add to it as I go along.  I'm a model builder!  
It's a personal Construct in Mind.  Many, many years ago, I saw the universe 
in a similar way as we see an ocean. The ocean contains everything that's in 
it and in a way the so called solid fishes for example, are "nodes" of the 
ocean.  A thickening or a specific vibration of oceanic essence... a lump of 
sea water... moving!

Then - I saw the universe as an energy of neutrality with "nodes" of energy 
in it that made up all the things, including human beings and the Gods that 
created them.  These "nodes" are specific vibrations of the universal 
essence and the type of vibration is so loose or misty that any other 
vibration can pass right through another or visit.  It then can experience 
what this funny node really is or does. As you know; some write - others read.

The universe then is an energy that vibrates with different frequencies and 
the energy-constructs pose as the 'things' in it.  Since the energy is 
consciousness or awareness in different forms, we all are certain forms of 
this awareness and 'float' along from one specific creation to the next in 
order to find out what our neighbors are like.  Once we find out and 
think/feel/intuit about it - we experience that they are us but differently.

The physical Universe (or the many of it) are specific 'envelops' of virtual 
realities that are kept apart by vibration-constructs we call time-locks. 
They are like mental blindfolds.  All these physical things within the 
physical universe are an illusion - for you have to put on a special suit in 
order to experience them.  This suit naturally is the Human Body - which 
through the ages and ages has become more and more complex. We are like 
living Computers and visit!  Our DNA is the main Chip! Our power supply is a 
full stomach...

In actuality Time does not exist for we create it whenever we find the need 
for it. Time and Space are a very sophisticated "tape" which is played by 
the Time Lords and they let us play in their Garden of Time and Space 
picking the Fruit of Knowledge while Boys look at Girls and ponder a lot.  

At the same time however, other aspects of ourselves are the Time Lords 
laughing their heads off by the way I try to explain all this in words which 
are supposed to make sense to other creatures of the same kind - the Jolly 
Jokers of Time and Space in blind confusion, that can only be cured when 
they start to build mental models based on illusionary separateness and 
fancy thoughts reflecting the actuality of Oneness - lost in Cosmic Disney 
Land.

To learn more about ourselves is done the fastest by trying to help others 
for in actuality there are no others.  There's only us... and snail mail. 

Whispy Energy - Gerardus

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Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 13:56:54 -0700
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Hi Allexzander...
>I believe that before you will see a landing the people of Earth 
>must first decide if that is really in their best interest. This 
>type of thing is clearly in violation of the Non-Interference 
>Objective put in place by the Galactic Council, of which the 
>Plieadians are a *member*. 
>I think the reason we have not seen a landing is that the critical 
>point has not been reached yet, not enough members of this planet 
>have made the decision that is what they want.

Gerardus here: 
You certainly have a valuable point here. Another point is (mine) that the 
masses on Earth truly do not have much of a clue of what's going on. And on 
top of that, even the people on this list do not really know what's going to 
happen exactly.
IOW: we lack the "Cosmic Info" to make an intelligent choice and go for it. 
In a sense we are like the animals in a zoo that are just about to be moved 
to another location or possibly set free. These animals have not much of an 
input either. Mankind is just about in the same boat or state of ignorance. 
I feel that this is due to the fact that the majority of us are Baby-Souls 
and have no other choice but to put our trust into the Almighty, so to speak.
I feel that this is what is happening and all who say that we create our own 
reality, can only say this when they realize that the big decisions are made 
by their Inner Light. (The Conscious Self for many of us is a bit of a dud).
The Inner Light or Godself knows that we are being taken care of by either 
older brothers or benefactors and all the lower self needs to have is Faith! 
Now! 
Just in case anybody is interested in what my decision is; here it is: 
I am 100% in favor of placing Planet Earth and its people in the long 
awaited New and Golden Age. Whatever this will be I do not know exactly, 
but to me it looks a lot better than what I can see develop on this Earth in 
the future. Things are getting progressively worse year by year for the 
average Human Soul. The old world is dying rapidly and we definitely do not 
have a cure. 
I feel that we have had enough of this State of Creativity! And if I was an 
older Brother on a more advanced Star System and I would be knowing what's 
going on on Earth, I would be out there like a shot and help these poor 
buggers. So, maybe that's why I am here in the first place, I do not really 
know or care. I do my best and God will do the rest!
I trust the Universe or Life itself. It's infinite in Power and Duration. To 
take care of a little planet like Earth is but like an afternoon of picking 
flowers!
I'm counting on the 5th Dimension - All the Way! 
I hope I get some comments on this. 
We need to reassure ourselves and let them know we're waiting for them! 
I say: Welcome to our Brothers and Sisters from Space... we are ready! 
Come and guide us toward the Fifth.
My wife and I are ready ! 
? How about you ? ` 
Oh my... Come and get me...
*!* Gerardus *!*


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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:28:44 -0700
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Allexzander...
Gerardus here: 
In the following I'm trying to answer some of your questions.
G: 
>>You certainly have a valuable point here. Another point is (mine) that the 
>>masses on Earth truly do not have much of a clue of what's going on. And 
>>on top of that, even the people on this list do not really know what's 
>>going to happen exactly.
A: 
>Which leads me to believe, even those who know what is going on don't know 
>what is going on. 
G: 
Yes, that's about what I suggested. There is no absolute certainty anywhere 
except that there is a certain amount of uncertainty. This does not negate 
that we cannot have projections about the future. More later about this... 
---------------------------------------------------- 
G: 
>>IOW: we lack the "Cosmic Info" to make an intelligent choice and go for it. 
>>In a sense we are like the animals in a zoo that are just about to be moved 
>>to another location or possibly set free. These animals have not much of 
>>an input either. Mankind is just about in the same boat or state of 
>>ignorance. I feel that this is due to the fact that the majority of us are 
>>Baby-Souls and have no other choice but to put our trust into the 
Almighty, so to speak.
A: 
>I think that you might be underestimating humanity here. I feel that humans 
>are very much capable of handling this situation all on their own. It may 
>seem like there are so many other advanced beings making all of these 
>decisions, but humanity still has a voice, and in actuality, ultimate veto 
>power if they choose to use it.
G: 
Yes, it is possible that I underestimate humanity. It's partly based on 
living among them for 67 years in this body. But then, humanity in general 
is/are ALL kinds of Beings. Who truly knows where we have lived and where 
we have been and what we are capable of. Many of us are great Souls, but at 
this moment we are playing the role of a somewhat backwards Awareness. 
Humanity at the moment lives behind a veil (or wall) of separation from his 
full Awareness. I feel that this is not just because some Race tampered 
with Humanity. 
---> There are no accidents in the Universe. <--- 
We are what we are on purpose. We live to experience any and all states or 
levels of awareness. And although Humanity might have veto power, this does 
not mean necessarily that humanity knows what or who to veto! 
G: 
If all the decisions are made by what you call advanced Beings, this is so 
because they have come here to help. Some human beings might be playing the 
role of the advanced or elite of Humanity and thus makes decisions for many. 
They know the score of living in purposefully forgetfulness. How else can 
the Source experience itself, but in the forgetfulness of knowing itself? 
----------------------------------------------
G: 
>>I feel that this is what is happening and all who say that we create our 
>>own reality, can only say this when they realize that the big decisions 
are >>made by their Inner Light. (The Conscious Self for many of us is a bit 
of a >>dud). The Inner Light or Godself knows that we are being taken care 
of by >>either older brothers or benefactors and all the lower self needs to 
have >>is Faith! 
A: 
>The lower self has a voice, and speaks for the soul, it too, can let its 
>feelings be heard.
G: 
Many lower selves deny their feelings. They find feelings inferior. They 
like to reason a lot. In my experience; the lower self only speaks for the 
lower self. Until the higher self is able to break through, the lower self 
is a limited awareness and it more or less circles in its own rational mind. 
It knows that it thinks and from it, it gets the idea that it thinks that it 
knows! I have met many lower selves who deny the existence of Spirit. How 
can these selves speak for Soul? I do not blame them, I just notice... 
--------------------------------------------------
G: 
>>I am 100% in favor of placing Planet Earth and its people in the long 
>>awaited New and Golden Age. Whatever this will be I do not know exactly, 
>>but to me it looks a lot better than what I can see develop on this Earth 
>>in the future. Things are getting progressively worse year by year for the 
>>average Human Soul. The old world is dying rapidly and we definitely do 
>>not have a cure. 
A: 
>Just a few questions for you...what is in this new Golden Age? Where does 
>it come from? What are your expectations of what life will be like? What 
>role does the Galactic Family have in your view of the Golden Age? What 
>role does the human species have in its Golden Age?
G: 
What is in this Golden Age? 
Answer: I already said that I didn't know exactly. And also, well, if I 
knew the complete answer, I would not want to live in it anymore. Why do it 
twice? The projection of MY future is the experience of a brand new ME! 
More awakened and more understanding of what I truly am. A entirely new way 
of life, physically yes, but also etherial and more spiritually. More 
psychic, more knowing. Compared to the way I have lived in the last 25000 
years - my future will be an enlightened holiday! Joy. And the friendship 
of many like me. Cooperation, sharing and understanding of other races on 
other planets and possibly traveling there. For I will reach higher levels 
of awareness and greater Human possibilities. I live - I grow - I advance. 
Piece of Cake!
G: 
Where does it come from? Where does anything come from? All things are a 
projection of Mind. Yours and Mine and the Powerful Ones! All Life or 
experiences are the result of Mind. We live - we create. All of us are the 
Image of the Creator. We cannot help but create. It's our nature! 
G: 
What are my expectations of what life will be like? I already answered 
some of that above. Life will be a Cosmic Gig! Fun! More so than ever, 
for many if not all will remember how we lived before. We will be 
celebrating the very Light within us! We are the Light of Creation in the 
form of Man - a more enlightened Man at that.
G: 
What role does the Galactic Family have in your view of the Golden Age? 
Galactic Family means Kinship. Gatherings of Jubilant Souls, working and 
sharing, celebrating Life. There is nothing else to do but be Joyful! If I 
can be Joyful on Earth, I can be Joyful any place. I expect Miracles for I 
am One! The rumors of wars that are fought are fought by the special 
aggressive kinds, there are many different groups. Same as here on Earth. 
Life is the Game of God being you and me and Everybody... 
--------------------------------
A: 
>I thank you for your comments and support, Gerardus, I hope I don't seem 
>offensive here. Just some questions I am interested in getting from the 
>front lines, so to speak.
>Allexzander
G: 
No offensiveness was noticed. Only Love can enter...
Greetings...
At one time I dreamt that I was God - but I gave up on it 
I woke up as Gerardus and I knew that I was kidding myself!
Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus



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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 19:34:26 -0700
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Sender: "Light Workers List" 
From: gerardus 
Subject: Re: The Positive UFO friends?
X-To: "Light Workers List" 
To: "Light Workers List" 

Hi Joshua...
Joshua wrote:
>Usually when a planet is about to make 
>such a shift, the people are already close to this new vibration. Our 
>world right now has so many different levels of reality and vibration 
>that this process will probably be fast and quick.

About this process being quick. In "You Are Becoming A Galactic Human" the 
author speaks about the 3 to 5 days of Total Darkness and after that we're 
in it! Now, that is quick!! We'll find ourselves in the Photon Belt and 
all matter will be invigorated or raised to a higher level of vibration. I 
found the book the most fascinating reading EVER! EVER!! Please go out of 
your way and order it right now... 
Welcome Brothers and Sisters from Space... we are ready! 
Come and guide us toward the Fifth.
*!* Gerardus *!*


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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:28:43 -0700
Reply-To: "Light Workers List" 
Sender: "Light Workers List" 
From: gerardus 
Subject: Gerardus and his Thoughts!
X-To: "Light Workers List" 
To: "Light Workers List" 

To One and All...
I have been very busy lately and I had no time to read some of the long 
files that came in. Finally tonight, I looked at some of them and believe 
it or not - I have come to the absolutely astounding conclusion that the 
entire Race of Man on Earth will become Enlightened indeed! And soon!
Call it Ascension... call it Enlightenment... but whatever it is, it is 
absolutely irreversible. The entire world will reach a state of Mind that 
will flabbergast all of us - absolutely. The veil of forgetfulness is being 
dissolved by the Light of Creation! 
Wherever I look, whatever I read, whatever I feel within, it is all so 
abundantly clear - We are about to experience the most astounding time of 
many, many ages or lifetimes. Incredible and absolutely astounding!
If you are able to stop for a moment and read or study what has come across 
the Lightwork-L network lately, you'll know what I'm referring to. It's 
almost unbelievable Man... unbelievable Woman, nobody in the world can stop 
this brilliant Light of Love... 
We're going to be touched by it and become the Light itself.
May you minds and hearts share my joy and the abundance of good feelings by 
knowing, that all of Humanity will see: 
the Miracle of Many Millennia 
right in front of our Godly Noses!
Light... Love... Laughter... and Enlightenment to All! 

*!* Gerardus *!*


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March 1996
P-L here:
>Many of my friends tell me to follow my heart, gut and higher-self and that 
>it will lead me in the right direction. 
> 
>Well my heart is telling me: 
>What Metatron says regarding our ascension is the closest to the truth. 
>That Sitchin makes very potent and plausible arguments for our genesis. 
>That Spirit of Truth posts are way too fatalistic and fixed to be true. 
>Just my thoughts 
> 
>Namaste 
>P-L

About missing something: 
No you're not Paul. You got it! 
However, all of us have a different version of the truth - I like it that way. 
And also, I feel that this is supposed to be the way it should be, in a free 
and diverse universe... 
========================

Wednesday's thought:

   Presently I feel... 
             That the universe is something that happens to me. 
             I am a witness and by witnessing I learn. 
             When I have learned enough in one class 
                                      I automatically reach another.

   At the moment - somehow I'm in between classes 
                           and the moods I experience are strange.

            I have objections to them 
                          and my body is doing funny things.

            I had no complaints when I was sky high 
                        and received splendid thoughts and poems. 

            I was a brilliant witness then.
                        But now that I have the 'blahs'... 

            I am a witness full of discontent.
                                          I feel that all this is so 
                            because I have not witnessed enough... 
                                             of the One I Am...


So Be It - Gerardus
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March 1996
K-L here:
Subject: Question for GG-L and Others.
>i have read many of your posts and you enjoy asking questions. now i have a 
>question for you, and i ask this in all sincerity. could you please tell me 
>how, for you, one's deep involvement (perhaps preoccupation) with ascension, 
>other planets, extra-terrestrial life etc. helps one to spiritually grow in 
>the here-and-now and deal with daily three-dimensional reality (in which 
>most of us currently operate)? it may sound simple, but the answer eludes 
>me. personally, my path leads me to hopefully ever-increasing mindfulness 
>and open-heartedness in the present (maybe even becoming closer to God) and 
>i just don't get how this focus on the above mentioned topics gets one 
>further along in that direction.  
>thanks in advance. 
>in light and love, 
> 
>K-L


Hello K-L...
Since you mention others as well - I dare to jump in here and answer your 
question. 
Answer: 
We are all different and therefore have different interests. We can 
therefore also look at it this way: We are the very Force or God, for we 
are this Force in a personal manner manifested on Earth in human form. IOW: 
We are the Creator and the Created...

We all live within God and are this Force and for the purpose of experience 
and diversity we temporarily have seemingly separated ourselves from our 
Greatness. IOW: we live in the Illusion of Separation. To fully enjoy this 
illusionary existence and celebrate our individuality within the Oneness we 
are is a universal Art of Being. For us this basically means being fully 
Human. This also means being fully God in a human sense. And naturally 
there are other ways in being God. We do that in other existences 
seemingly, which in actuality, all happen at once. Since we are the very 
One - we have the power to forget who we are and be whatever we fancy. Like 
K-L, GG-L, B-L or G-L...

To overcome this temporary separation we all entertain different interests 
and activity in order to bridge the illusionary gap with out greater Self. 
In actuality however there is nothing to bridge. The only thing required to 
be God or Ourselves to the fullest is to be 'happy' within the limited scope 
we have projected ourselves in. This is not always easy naturally. We have 
to be able to see our Greatness 'shining' within our smallness.

So, once we know Who or what we are - *whatever* we do is 'perfect' for we 
know that All is Well. We can never lose what we are! So, we are God and 
yet we are not God - simultaneously. And the more we learn and study other 
Gods and their works - the more we will be able to experience and bring with 
us into the rest of our Creation. And Creation is "God at Large" in all 
kinds of positions and circumstances - universally...

Light... Love... and Laughter!  *!* Gerardus.
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April 1996
Questions to All...

Suppose we live in a big city that has no zoo.  What do we do?  Well, we
begin to collect the necessary money and build one. Then we begin to buy
all kind of animals and put them into their cages. Pretty soon the zoo is
full and in a few years nobody really knows how it all started. And in a
way, we begin to think that the zoo has always existed.

           The zoo is like the world - it has always existed.

To establish this zoo takes many many years naturally and the entire zoo has
thousands of contributors and people who have worked for many years just for
the love of it and somehow the zoo has become an existing reality.

   The animals and the monkeys naturally, have no clue at all that there
   were many invisible contributors and workers who have built their zoo.
   Also, they are not aware of the staff that maintains it either.

                        The monkeys just live...


Then - one day one of the female monkeys has a very smart baby - and here is
the big step - WE ARE THAT BABY!  Now imagine that this smart baby starts to
think and when it grows up it ponders over its life in the zoo.  Well, I
guess you get the picture.  It begins to ponder how the zoo came about and
who created it all.  Wow!  The stories it gets from all other animals and
monkeys really do not make any sense and it becomes truly confused. However,
since the monkey is a very smart, it accepts its existence and it finally
begins to enjoy itself. It could not care less who created the zoo and who
collected all the ideas and the money. And for reasons only a smart monkey
knows - it starts to become a super monkey to the fullest extent.  It plays,
it yells and it fools around. It is joyful and it is what it is - monkey!

Big questions here:

Shouldn't we do the same thing?

Shouldn't we just think world - and then man?

Shouldn't we just look around and help whoever we can?

Shouldn't we stop wondering who or what created the world?

Shouldn't we stop wondering who or what God is - and Be Here Now?

Shouldn't we just leave the Creators to the Creators...
                                  like the monkeys leave Man to Man?

                  ? Is that what it is all about ?

Couldn't it be...
   that when we have become Man to the fullest, that the day will come
   upon which we will understand that the Creator lives within us?

       Aren't we the ones who created cities, zoos and monkeys?

Couldn't it be...
    that when we do the simple things properly, the big things will be
    waiting for us to be taken care of later on?

                   Like creating Worlds and People?

   Let's not think about it anymore and just be Man - and love being it.

                   Let's celebrate and Be Here Now!
                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 We are the One experiencing the All - We are the All experiencing the One


Gerardus
April 1996
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April 1996
Gerardus wrote:
>The Spirit is the Power of the Universe that we as Souls modulate and use 
>to create our own tunes.  This Spirit-Power is neutral and we actualize it 
>by putting our signature on it.

>D-Bridge-L
A question for you, Gerardus  By neutral, do you mean a harmoniously perfect
balance of two polarities?  What is your perception of these polarities?  Or
does "neutral" mean "impartial", or something else?

Gerardus here:
Aha!  Semantics... wow!  What a Game.   I basically mean "impartial" but 
there is always guidance from above. This 'above' are our Teachers, Guides 
and Helpers - but they do not and can not interfere with our free will - 
regardless of how bad a choice we might make.

Then - about this "harmonious perfect balanced" energy the universe is or 
contains. I see this as having two main divisions 

              Unconscious Energy   and    Conscious Energy
                                    or
                     Unawareness   and    Awareness
                                    or
                    Unmanifested   and    Manifested
                                    or 
                Undifferentiated   and    Differentiated

                       Not necessarily in that order.

There is seemingly 'duality' here - but ALL originate from the "Nest of 
Nothingness" or the Void of unconscious Energy or Mind. 
                                               All have one Source!

Once this unconscious Energy is 'nudged' into action by the Super-Masters of 
Creation or the Game Masters - this unaware Energy is super-imposed upon 
other aspects of the Creation.   So Man, starts out with an innocent and 
ignorant soul that has had its preliminaries in the animal kingdom and 
eventually it is aware enough to be infused into the Human Line of 
Consciousness.  After that - it goes higher yet naturally.  
                                               Keep your seat belt on!

Before this specific unit of 'awareness' reaches man however it has been 
learning to become "aware" in billions of different and lower levels of the 
plant and animal worlds.   The entire Creation is a process by which 

        "Unconscious Energies" are raised to "Conscious Energies".

So the "Universal Stock" or Void is the Source from which unconscious 
Energies are taken and these Energies become/form the Conscious Creation.  
The entire Creation then is a School in which the unconscious Creative 
Energies become Conscious or Aware.  Eventually The Creator awakens in Man! 
I and the Father are One! (Jesus)

Once they reach higher levels yet, I have no idea what they do with 
themselves, for I am not aware that far at the moment.  So, between the 
lowest and the highest levels of creation we find the Co-Creators, who each 
in their turn and expertise, 'create' creation with the same easy as that 
you and I create a post or message or a goof...  

Not always therefore is Creation a perfect endeavor for we are all learning. 
Naturally - things are well in hand and less mistakes are made by the Great 
Ones than by you and I the rest of the gang.  Nobody gets his ticket by 
looking pretty...

Now - I mentioned two basic types of Energy, but these are not polarities in 
the real sense as some people see Good and Evil.  Basically there is only 
One Energy in the process of awakening and in the beginning periods of this 
'awakening' its acts out of "ignorance" - which by the masses might be seen 
as Evil or Bad.  All is the Creator awakening.  The Creator or the Creative 
Energies are not evil or bad - just uninformed or not developed or not smart 
enough to know better...

Then also - the process of the Creative Energies goes through a period where 
the 'Undifferentiated-Energy' enters a stage were it 'individualizes' (Ego) 
and from there on, this Energy grows and grows toward the "Serving of 
Others" instead of "Serving the Self" like the orientation of the ego does.
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Gerardus said

>     Electricity for example is a neutral force and our appliances are the
>        things that give meaning to this neutral electricity or power.
> D-Bridge-L

My favorite "electrical" analogy for the tripartite nature of man involves a
string of Christmas lights. Again the electricity represents the spirit or
Source.  The individual light bulbs represent our bodies (ie entire physical
being), and the light that is given forth represents the manifestation of Soul.

Yes, that's a good one.  Mine has lost some of its color.  Is that bad?
(I hope your Christmas lights are not all hooked up in series)
--------------------------------------------------------- 

When the bulb burns out, or the Vehicle is no longer capable of transforming
Spirit into Soul, the electricity (Spirit) is absorbed back into the Source,
until it finds another Vehicle for manifesting the Light.

Of course, there are many problems with this analogy, as there are with all
analogies,  but I have found it generally useful as I strive to understand 
the nature of being.  At the very least it provides one with a starting 
point to begin to understand our  "triune" nature.

Gerardus here
Yeah, I like your analogy.  Our Triune of Being - "SoulMindBody" - are forms 
in which the Spirit or the Creative Energy expresses itself and possibly 
other life forms in Creation have a different combinations of 
characteristics. There might be Beings for example that are more Robot like 
and their emotional nature is a flat curve - no emotions and possibly no 
morality either.  Although morality is a pretty fluctuating picture in and 
by itself. It depends what we are used to...

               Thanks for your response D-Bridge-L.
                                     See you in Heaven...  Wow.

Gerardus
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April 1996
>Personal question for you Gerardus.  Since I have been a member of MEANING
>in several post you have made reference to "The Christ Consciousness" or
>"becoming a Jesus." 

Gerardus here
Hello Shane/Meaning List

IN MY OPINION
The Christ Consciousness is the State of Mind or Awareness that was attained 
or possessed by a man called Jesus.  His real name might have been different. 
How did he become so smart?  Well - living lives by the thousands, on this 
planet and others will do it for everyone.  IOW I feel that the Person now 
called "Sananda" possibly came from another planet and was born the normal 
way by a lady we call Maria. Maria and possibly Joseph her boyfriend or 
husband were members of the Essenes I think they were called.  They were 
let's say 'New Agers' 2000 years ago!

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***Additional note added on August 2001
***Not necessarily did a Jesus really exist. All religions are stories and what
is really true might be just the meaning of the story - not the story itself!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

In any case Jesus was born the normal way and his mother very likely became 
pregnant the normal way by Joseph.  However, Jesus was born the Virgin birth 
and this means that he was born KNOWING!  He knew what he came to do for he 
was/is able to bring with him the 'knowledge and wisdom' he had gathered in 
all his lifetimes and bring it with him intact (consciously) into the plane 
of the physical from the others planes he descended from.  No mean feat!!

      (We bring 'knowing' with us as well when we are born. 
                     But compared to Sananda we are poor beginners)

So all he had to do was wait long enough until his baby body grew, learned 
to speak and voila - A master in a boy's body!   Miracle!  Not really a 
miracle naturally - but a very unusual Birth for sure.  An Avatar in Human 
Flesh!!

Sananda's birth was a preparation and a showing of what could be done by a 
human being who had reached that state of evolution - that state of mind! 
Jesus was an example!   He also was Love personified.  Something for us to 
become!  ***LOve is Understanding!

He can do and does what was called Miracles.  He is able to penetrate our 
dream and suspend it so to speak and change our illusionary reality in what 
HE wants it to be.  He is the Magician!   Many other Masters have done many 
outrageous things in the past and Jesus in his turn did a few things as well.

Moses for example did some miracles. (Not really Miracles)  They are acts of 
Mind over Matter!  The bible speaks about miracles - but mind over matter is 
the thing to call it.
------------------------------

Shane/Meaning List
>I was just wondering who you think Jesus was.  I mean
>was he born to a virgin?  Did he come back from the dead?  Is/was he all of
>the stuff the Bible say he is?  Did he have powers beyond most humans?

Gerardus here
Here is a piece I wrote some time ago about Jesus. 
                           I called it "Spilling the Beans on Jesus"!  

I believe/feel/intuit that Jesus or Sananda is the highest official in the 
Solar Government and that all of us are aspects of his Consciousness, of his 
Christ Consciousness. We are his children in a mental sense.  He thinks and 
creates beings (souls) so to speak.  He is the Creator in a Personal Form.  
He's way up there and certainly not some kind of extra-ordinary person. He 
is not even an ordinary super Star. He's beyond what you and I can think of!  

Here is the piece

                   ==================================

The person called Jesus The Christ attained the "Son of God" level or also
called; The Christ Consciousness or Buddhahood, or whatever people call this 
State of Mind, by living many and many lifetimes upon this planet or others.

After many and many lifetimes then, he was born as Hesus or Jesus for the
last time (the biological way), and he would live his last lifetime as 
Jesus. He studied most of his younger years and when he was at a relatively 
young age (say 32) he was going to be initiated!  This "initiation" at that 
time, was called "crucifixion" or something similar.  This initiation was 
the final test or exam that has to be completed before he could be accepted 
by his peers and then would belong to the "Initiated" or the "Infinite 
Souls" of the Universe!  Immortality as Jesus The Christ!  Or Sananda as he 
is called also nowadays.

This Initiation meant that the initiate would be tied to a cross like the
Roman number 10, which is a "X".  (The initiate has gone from 1 to 10 )
The initiate is tied to this "X" with leather straps in a most informal 
manner, for it is a ritual and then the initiate leaves the body, 
voluntarily, and visits many other planes of existence.

S/he stays away for three days and nights and then returns to the Earth and 
the body. In the mean time the Teachers and other "contemporaries in 
learning" take care of the body and assure that it is not interfered with. 
In other words they 'babysit' a soulless body!   A Zombie!

After three days, upon the return of the Initiate, he or she must tell what
places were visited and what was seen and experienced.  (The Teachers and 
others know what's out there so to speak)  This was to assure that s/he knew 
what s/he was talking about and thus could proof that s/he is capable of 
leaving the body, visit other worlds and return in time.  (Some people fall 
asleep and fake it maybe? - Ha Ha)

Well anyway, after this initiation the Initiate receives the title of
"Christ" (possibly from the Great Krishna Initiate) and from there on in, 
s/he is an Infinite Soul who has the power or ability to appear any place, 
any time, all over the Worlds as s/he sees fit.  It really means that this 
person is totally FREE!  One has become a Son of God or we also could say 
that s/he has realized the "True Realization of Self"  IOW. S/he is ONE with 
the Father as the man Jesus called it.  After that, this person radiates 
"light" for s/he lives now in the "Light Body"!  The dense matter of the 
body has become Light. Intelligence, Wisdom, Truth, Reality, Love!  ... and 
naturally - Joyfulness!

As you see, the above is quite different than the stories told by the
religions about Jesus The Christ.  Naturally, we all have the freedom to 
believe what we want and what satisfies us. 

Naturally this is only a story and it might be nonsense. It's up to you what 
to believe. The best is to believe nothing and when you are ready, you 
travel back in time and find out yourself first hand...

Please be happy... Life is a Celebration!

=============================================

My source of the above, which I identified with almost immediately, in 1980 
or so, is the following. The originator of the story was
       
     E Yada di Shi-ite, shortly called Yada!  The Teachers of Light!

Yada is/was a personality not focused in our physical reality anymore and 
spoke through a person called Mark Probert of San Diego, CA.  For almost 30 
years Yada and some others spoke through this man and revealed an astounding 
story to me and many others.  Yada had once lived 500.000 years ago and was 
a priest or official in a Temple of some sort.  Anyway, there have come 
about, because of Yada and his friends, thousands of pages of a Teaching 
that is superior to any New Age Magazine of today...

In this book Yada tells the story of Jesus, and to me this has been one of 
the most trustworthy tales I've ever heard about this Great Man.  This Jesus 
naturally is somebody entirely different than the "Bleeding Heart Jesus" the 
churches speak about!  As far as I can figure out the personality that was 
and is Jesus or Sananda is absolutely in a different category that you and 
I, and possibly will be for a while to come! 

However I know that Time is an Illusion, so we could also say In all 
aspects we are as Great as this Jesus or Buddha for we are Infinite Souls 
just the same. Our status is not fully realized at this moment in time, 
which at this moment, is our Dream! In other words we all are already 
enlightened or a Son of God. After all we have lived infinitely!!

There are actually two books the Teachers of Light sell and they are both 
worth the money a thousand times.  The one book is Yada Speaks and the 
other book is "The Magic Bag"  Here is the address and send them about 20 
dollars. (I think by now)  There is more in these books than you will see on 
an email list naturally. Also, it's a lot handier to have a book...

The address

Mark Probert - Kethra E'DA
P.O. Box 11672  Palo Alto  CA  94306  USA

Include a couple of bucks for the shipping if you like

=================================================================

Shane here
>I personally believe he was just an ordinary man with a good heart and
>an instilled god complex.  Wasn't he told from infancy that he was the
>son of God?  Im sure he was completely convinced of it himself.  Too bad
>his personal teachings can not be deciphered out of today's Christianity.

                                        Shane Sullivan

Gerardus here
Well, the above covers all your questions I feel and if you have more let 
them rip - what do I know?

Shane here
>I personally believe he was just an ordinary man with a good heart and
>an instilled god complex.

Jesus or Sananda is the most advanced Being that possibly will be appearing 
on earth in the future and then you will know whether I am full of BS or 
not. 2012?  Who knows?  It depends on how far WE advance in the years to 
come!  All things depend on Mankind...

***The appearances of Jesus in the form of the Christ Consciousness will be 
   demonstrated by some people on earth. 
   This is what the Second Coming might mean.

I hope you can wait that long -  and I hope that I as Gerardus will see that 
day!  An ordinary man with a good heart - indeed!  (Smiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile)
Rumors say that Sananda is an Avatar from the star Sirius B - looking after 
Earth and its people...   Naturally he is able to ascend and descend all 
planes of being up to the tenth or whatever highest there is.  We are only 
on the third going into four or five maybe...     Good questions!

Gerardus
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April 1996
-------- Snip --- from other conversation:
>> What's offered above is not to controvert. Nor am I seeking validation, 
>> 'though I too would welcome comments. It's merely to point to commonality 
>> of what we mean by some fundamental terms.

F/Lightwork-L here: 
>Symantics is the art of Advanced Hairsplitting. It deals with the 
>exact meaning of words, and in a semantically correct text, there can 
>be no misinterpretation. 
>However, it is my opinion that the essence of what we call the Soul is 
>largely (if not completely) a non-verbal thing. Though I applaud your 
>attempt to nail down definitions (the start of any discussion if you 
>want it to go somewhere instead of bogging down in misunderstanding 
>and prejudice), I'm afraid that words, the raw material of symantics, 
>just don't apply to this field... 
> 
>Regards, Frank 
===================================

Gerardus here:
The other day we had a discussion about Spirit and Soul on another list 
and I came up with the following. It might help (or confuse) us... who knows.

What is Spirit - What is Soul? 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Spirit is the Power of the Universe that we as Souls or Instruments 
modulate and use to create our own tunes. This Spirit-Power is neutral and 
we actualize it by putting our melody or signature on it. This mean that - 
what we are, right now, is a self-made-quality that can only come about 
because of the 'neutrality' of the source that participates and follows our 
wishes and commands. We create our 'soul' so to speak while we live our 
lives. We are an image and a free willed expression of the Source.

We are the Source individualized or personalized.

Electricity for example is a neutral force and our appliances are the 
things that give meaning to this neutral electricity or power.

Basically we could see ourselves are apprentice Co-Creators while the 
ultimate Creator is the "Power or Light" upon/from which we run our infinite 
Engine called the Soul.

Then naturally there are Michael Souls, Gabriel Souls, Uriel Souls, Buddha 
Souls, Jesus Souls, Socrates Souls, Human Souls - ET Souls - Dolphin Souls, 
Whale Souls, Dog and Cat Souls, Louse Souls (Smile) and whatever else has 
manifested/appeared within the Universal Mind we all share and are. (Most 
animals however have group Souls)

An infinite Soul therefore - like a Jesus Soul (Sananda) or a Buddha Soul - 
is an unknown unlimited quality and quantity of energy that may divide or 
project their 'energies' into other beings and in a sense create these 
beings, like we create a poem or a post. These great Souls then experience 
more and more by means of us. And we experience more and more because of 
what we do and what we share. All of us always learn more...

So, in a direct sense; the entire Creation and all the GodBeings in it - are 
all Co-Creators that have a direct connection to the Source and are the 
Source THEIR way. (The Image) A human being is God being human and a mouse 
is God being a mouse. God here naturally - is the Power or Spirit of the 
universe and not some kind of being. Like the Air is all the different 
winds and storms including hurricanes or summer breezes and whiffies... Hmm?

A Soul then is a 'unknwn and unlimited unit of Consciousness' that by means 
of its travels grows more and more aware and hopefully more loving...

The Higher Selves of which we are Thought-Forms (Thought-Energies or Tunes 
of Spirit) might not completely agree with what I say above, but my words or 
explanation fills the need for me to understand myself and in the mean time 
I try to share some of this with others. I hope my words help...

We are the One experiencing the All - We are the All experiencing the One

Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus
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May 1996 
>Hi All,
>
>C, I appreciate your post...must admit the ascend master theology is
>new to me.  This following exchange led me to a question. I am interested 
>in how others have reconciled same.
>
>Is God impotent enough to require Mankind's help in order to fix things?


Gerardus here:
When I have time, I always 'jump-in' when I think I know something. 
So in this case I like to answer D's question. 


Here's goes G-Man Gerardus

Question:
Is God impotent enough to require Mankind's help in order to fix things?

Answer:
God is not some kind of Being - Big - Small - Human, Alien or Other.  God is 
the Energy of the Universe and we could use other names for this Energy. 
Like Life - Isness - Creation - The Nameless or The Infinite Light (TIL)

The above question is similar to:
Is the Air impotent enough to require the Wind's help to blow clouds around. 

My point is that God or TIL *is* Mankind in the form of Mankind. God or Life 
or the Universe *is* all Things, Beings and Entities.  Within the Created 
then - God lives and is the Created.  To understand this means - to forget 
about the idea that God is 'other' than Creation, or Mankind, or the Animal 
World, or whatever.  

      There is only God.    There is only Life.    There is only TIL

In order for this Force to know itself it is/becomes Creation and goes about 
its ways to experience itself.  Our life therefore is God, or the Nameless, 
or TIL, experiencing itself - as - what we are.   In the mean time - 
whatever this Force is, say Mankind, Mankind is subjected to an evolving or 
growing process of becoming more and more aware of who or what Mankind 
really is.

In a sense - this Force or Life has stepped 'outside' itself and became 
Mankind as well as the infinite variety of all other Life, including the UFO 
Intelligences, in order to become aware itself.  Each Being then is God 
being Itself. This includes the AIDS Virus in all its splendor.  Which in 
all its devastating work might have been created by Mankind itself.   
Things do not fall out of the sky...   

So - the answer to D's question is YES!  God is the most impotent Being 
in the Universe!  Because ONLY by means of the Created - **Great and Small** 
- is and does Creation come about.  Without beginning or End - for the Big 
Bang scientist speak about in my view is nonsense.  The only Big Bang that 
ever takes place is the 'explosion of understanding" in people's head when 
they see the Light.  The Infinite Light They ARE!!

Note
** Great and Small**   
In my view there are Beings in the universe who are immensely wise and 
loving and powerful, and they are responsible for the creation of Solar 
Systems and their Planets. I call them the Game-Masters.  Under them, in 
different functions, we find the Buddhas and the Jesusses - who in and by 
themselves are beyond human imagination in Greatness.  Well - at least 
beyond mine.  I cannot possibly know their Greatness unless I am as Great.  
Yet!  I am them - for all is one! 

At the moment however, "I as Oneness" have lowered aspects of myself into a 
Time and Space Environment and one of them is Gerardus. Another one is 
David. (Hi Joan) It is up to them to self-elevate their level of awareness 
to the levels of the Infinite Greatness we are as the Oneness of Love - from 
which they are temporarily separated by choice in order to experience their 
creations.  

This post for example is one of Gerardus' creations and he experiences and 
enjoys his posts immensely for he has read them over several times, again and 
again, in order to make sure they reflects his truth precisely.  The beauty 
of it is - that you do not have to accept it!  For we live in a universe of 
free will and free choice. This is so - because we as the Creator set the 
rules!

Gerardus

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May 1996 
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:33:00 MDT 
From: "Paul P. Tifford"  
Subject: Re: All: Spiritual Wholeness

< PLEASE REMEMBER THIS>

1.At the innermost level of our being we are permanently 
peaceful, knowledgeable, and whole.

2.It is insufficient Self-understanding that prevents us from knowing 
this truth.

3.We have to intentionally cultivate awakened spiritual consciousness 
until all delusions and illusions (misperceptions) are transcended and 
stable Self-realization prevails.

4.To attain Self-realization one needs time for truth study, surrendered 
prayer, superconscious meditation, and alert contemplation of higher 
realities. At all times,cultivate conscious awareness of yourself as a 
perfected, spiritual being, and individualized ray of Divine 
Consciousness, which is what you are.

5.While you express through the body, the body is not you. While you use 
your mental faculties, the mind is not you. Your emotional 
states, memories, etc. are not you. The *you* of you is pure 
consciousness. The *you* of you is Supreme Consciousness, the Spirit of 
God, in relationship with Nature-manifested realms.

6.By knowing your spiritual Selfhood,you can better relate to the 
world, make right choices,be impervious to external influences which do 
not serve higher purposes,and live as a free being in the midst of change.

7.Self-knowledge is not a mental or emotional state,nor is it an acquired 
or created state of consciousness. Self-knowledge is the obvious result of 
direct perception of who and what we are;it is error-free Soul realization.

8.In meditation,calmly contemplate the reality of your changeless Self as 
an individualized unit of the allness of the One Consciousness.

9.Later, relate to thoughts, feelings and circumstances while maintaining 
your inner awareness of being undisturbed Self.

10.Thus Self-aware,living will be easy and enjoyable. Because of your 
knowledge that God alone exists and that the universe is but God's 
objective expression, you will be fearless. There will be no more becoming 
or overcoming. Having awareness restored to spiritual wholeness, you will be 
forever established in total wellness.
==============================

I have discovered the Great Teaching, the Incomparable Great SECRET, 
the Exquisite Truth of the Meaning of Life. It is not easily found and 
has been hidden away since the beginning of time. How lucky you are... 
for I now hand it...to you!

1.YOU ARE NOT A HUMAN BEING! YOU ARE AN IMMORTAL,SPIRITUAL BEING, 
*LITERALLY* MADE IN THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD.

2.You cannot *become* a spiritual being, for mind and matter does not 
become transformed into Spirit. It is just the reverse. Spirit produces 
mind and matter out of Itself.

3.Spirit is superior to Nature, just as you are superior to your mind and 
body. Your mind and body is subject to changes and dissolution; *you* are 
changeless and forever what you are-Spirit.

4.You do not have to strive to *become* spiritual, you only have to 
*allow* your innate reality to be increasingly expressive and influential.

5.To the degree that you can lose consciousness of yourself as body and 
mind, your Self or soul awareness increases. To the degree that soul 
awareness becomes manifestly expressive, knowledge of higher realities 
unfolds in the mind. Finally self-consciousness is transcended and cosmic 
consciousness states blossom. You come to have an expanded awareness of 
life and it's processes.

6.The way to Self-realization is to restore one's attention and awareness 
to one's inmost center, to withdraw it from objects of external 
attachment and from mental and emotional conflicts. At the core of 
us, right now, we are peaceful and content - we are Spirit!

7.How can we experience this peace of soul? When we pray until thoughts 
are stilled and then rest in silence, soul peace and awareness can be 
experienced. When we surrender in alert contemplation of God, profound 
realizations spontaneously unfold. We come to know that we are in God 
and God is in us.

8.All souls are rays of Pure Consciousness and have the same innate 
nature and potential for awakening and spiritual growth. All are "gods". 
This is the great secret: we are all Spiritual Beings!

9.Greater is that which we are than is anything that happens to our 
bodies or minds or to the world around us.

10.We are destined to awaken to knowledge and realization of our 
relationship, our oneness, with God. 

11.We are not alone in the universe.As reflected lights of pure 
consciousness we are divine to the core: "I live in God, God lives in me".

12.We are on earth to become completely enlightened and to do God's will.

13.You are an immortal spiritual being. Acknowledge this truth and live 
your life with this understanding. You are an individualized ray of God's 
consciousness, so never admit to any other identity or dramatize mental or 
emotional states or behaviors which are inconsistent with this fact.

14.Say always,"I LIVE IN GOD, GOD LIVES IN ME!">


Paul... 
The above is an superb summation of what I see as the Truth!!!
! The best I have ever seen ! 
* The Creator within Man is the Genius - Man is the Instrument * 

Gerardus

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Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 11:46:52 -0600
Reply-To: "Light Workers List" 
Sender: "Light Workers List" 
From: Gerardus 
Subject: Re: Future Technologies Today?
X-To: "Light Workers List" 
To: "Light Workers List" 

>Hi all, 
> 
>I have always been fascinated by our limited human technology, which 
>many don't see as being as limited as I do, and imagining just how 
>much further we could go. So a few months ago I wrote this article. 
>The idea that the real world we live in is a manifestation of our 
>minds or consciousness has allowed me to pose an interesting question: 
>suppose the real world was just a little bit different from the one we 
>actually find ourselves in ... 
> 
>Perhaps this may sound like the ravings of a lunatic - no matter, 
>hope you enjoy!

Hi Chris...
I like to answer your question.
Differences or different worlds are the results of perceptions. Also, 
there really is not such a thing as a 'real' world. We all live in a 
"mindset" of our own and this mindset creates the world we think we live 
in at all times.
This means that we all live in different worlds or universes and at any one 
time we can slide off into another version of our private created world by 
changing our mind set.
In a sense, there is a "collective reality out there" which consists of 
energies that form the world we think we live in and this world is created 
by our Collective Consciousness. This include Off Planet Forces!
To change the world "out there" by means of a personal mind set is done by 
each individual at all times, but the deviations are so small that we do not 
even notice it ourselves possibly. 
Aha! Aha! A man like Jesus however, is able to over-come or over-power our 
collective representation of the world (mind set) and by doing this he 
creates a so called miracle. His Mind-Power is greater than our combined 
effort so to speak. Needless to say that an enlightened Being like Sananda 
is not just anybody. On the other hand - we are him and he is us. We are 
all the same Creator differently in order to play the Game of Creation.
I do not know whether or not my answer covers it all. For now however, I 
need to stop before I get bogged down in a world that might completely 
separate from anybody else's. Far out man... Far Out Indeed...
Nice question! And thank you for your post "Future Technologies Today"
Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus.



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July 1996
S/TheWayList here:

>None of this really rules out the relativistic notion that there may be
>other beings with completely different sensory mechanisms, for whom
>*our* ordinary dimensions are undetectable, but to whom these
>high-curvature dimensions appear "ordinary".
--------------------------------------------

Hello S/TheWayList...  Hello All...

I enjoyed your posts about dimensions.  I am new to your "Way of 
Words" and I am delighted to have joined.  I have my own thoughts about 
Dimensions.  In my model of the universe the entire Show *is* the Energy of 
Consciousness in Action.  Consciousness or Mind is the only thing there is!

The different vibrations of this "energy" produce the different physical as 
well as non-physical entities, beings or things.  These vibrations range 
from the lowest to the highest in frequency and the higher the frequency we 
are able to sense, the higher we go up into the other dimensionalities of 
existence. These dimensionalities are Awareness Levels.  States of Mind. 

I see the universe as an "Infinite Quantum Energy Hologram" containing 
smaller distorted versions or nodes of itself making up all entities within 
creation.  All Things and Beings therefore are an image or holographic copy 
with variations of the Whole.  Whatever we need to know and do, to become 
aware of our Source, is engraved within our Beingness.  To recognize this 
'selfness' is the task we have accepted when we divided (or gained our 
individuality) from the Whole as a semi separate being.  At all times 
however are we connected to the Whole and are it as an individual version or 
reflection.  Also - we never 'leave' the Infinite Quantum Energy Hologram.  
We exist or swim within it!

To become individual beings or personalize ourselves is the only way to 
recognize who or what we really are, since the Whole as Such is an 
impersonal Holographic Energy with no self identity.  It is therefore 
'Unconscious' which becomes 'Conscious of Itself' within the created by 
means of the experiences we encounter. This consciousness forms/is our 
Beingness or Truth!


Dimensions - how many are there?  

This I feel is up to all of us to discover, for in the first place, we are 
the "Personal Discoverer and Experiencer" of the infinite Show which 
naturally keep us infinitely busy. We periodically return in different kinds 
of energy bodies upon different planets in order to eventually become 
familiar with our Creation. (Our Soulness is our HardDisk)  Yes, we create 
while we are on our Way of Discovery, for the entire universe is a personal 
phenomenon.  We all have different versions or models of it, which here and 
there overlap, to help us along and form a common bond or relationship.  
However, at all times Truth is an individual Thing!  

We are the very Consciousness of the Universe and dividing ourselves, as 
well as forgetting who or what we really are, are two of our 
characteristics. This put an additional touch of mystery in our discovery 
and when we finally reach the status of the Christ Consciousness or 
Buddhahood we remember that we are the very One - Consciously!   
(I and the Father are One - Jesus)


Am I there?   Are you kidding??

My Higher Self is yes - and I as its instrument am in the business of giving 
my universe a personal physical twist.  It reinforces the idea that we are 
it!  We are our Creation in other words - we are our Truth!  

Greetings and Love - Gerardus


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July 04 95
----------

Note: Better sit back and enjoy this...

The problem here is the word "real"!  In my mind a coffee cup is just 
as real as a thought or a UFO. They are things, that each are real in 
their own and different realities.  However, all realities are only 
relatively real.  

So, looking at this from a Multy-Dimensional viewpoint, the one thing 
is not more real than the other, for all realities are relatively 
real.  We cannot look at it from a physical viewpoint only. For UFOs 
might be physical one moment and not physical another.  They change or 
overlap realities!  So, all things are relatively real or virtually real.  

We can ask ourselves: Is a Thought real?  If it is real where is it?  
Is God real?  Is Man real, or are each of us dreaming all the rest of 
us?  Are we awake when we think we are awake, or is that the time we 
start to dream?  How come my dream is different than yours?  How come 
my truth clashes with his?  Is a Saint better than a Molester in God's 
eye.  Is there a Devil?  If there is not, is there Evil?  Are 
possessions real?  Who is speaking in hypnosis?  What do YOU think is 
real?  Is there an Objective Reality out there?  Is it different for 
everyone and why?  Etc, etc, etc, etc.

I am pointing out here that there are endless (Infinite Questions) and 
no other person could convince any other person what is real and what 
isn't real or what is true and what is not.  Realness and Truth 
depends on what reality you are focused in. Once you know that all 
realities are virtual, any "realness" and/or "Truth" therefore becomes 
relative or virtual and/or a personal thing.

The case is, that whatever is happening to us, is a phenomena of which 
all of us are an aspects (temporarily).  We as this aspect "look out" 
from within an enclosed body we think we live in and are.  Well, this 
is not so!  We are ALL bodies and Things!!   Many people THINK 
however, that all they are, is this one body. And the religious people 
think that they have a bit of Spirit as well somewhere. Not so!  

  * We are the Creator, Universe, or God!  

  * This God is You and Me and Everybody disguised as Creation itself.  

  * So, the God we are, LIVES in its Creation - We are IT!

What is happening anywhere is happening in God or in the Universal 
Mind We Are.  However , all of us on this earth and other planets have 
"descended" into our creation in the past and now our awareness system 
is working from this temporary enclosure called body.  Naturally when 
we descended we only took a small aspect of ourselves and 'willed' or 
'thought' it into a created aspect or body.  As soon as we did this we 
diminished ourselves to a infinitely small *Lookout Point or Focus* 
called: Human Being.

Now. In the same way that a copy of a computer file is just as good as 
the original!  So is each of us a fully working COPY of the ORIGINAL 
Universal Mind!  Each Human Beings is the Original in Miniature. We 
are the Image of God. Our Mind that is - not our body!

There is no difference between the Copy We Are and the Original 
Universal Mind, except that the program on the Copy We Are is not 
working up to snuff yet. We need to learn how this infinite universal 
program works!  We need to learn the Laws about it!  And this Law is 
Love more so than Intellectualism or Knowledge...   Well, at least in 
the Mind or Aspect I am.

We need to expand our "Copy" and make it useful up to the 
Unlimitedness of the Universal Mind we really Are.  Our "Copy" is 
mostly unconscious!  We have to awaken the dreamer within.  We are 
asleep and we suffer all kinds of dreams about what is real and what isn't!   

We need to become aware THAT WE ARE THE ORIGINAL THING and that all 
the things we experience are the illusions of the Dreamer.  We need to 
become aware that we are a fully working Copy of the Original Program. 
 We do not know the Program yet - for it is an infinite thing!  We are 
working with it but there as so darn many distractions that we get 
lost in what is real and not real and right and wrong and just and unjust.  
                    (All that belongs to Version 11 + Infinity)

Here is your question:
       Then by your definition, UFO's are real.  By definition. 

   My definition:  * ALL THINGS ARE RELATIVELY REAL *
                     Naturally this includes UFO's and all kinds of 
other                         realities we have never even dreamt of yet.

I repeated myself there somewhat but you may scratch whatever you 
think redundant. I have also simplified the entire thing for there is 
a lot more involved than what I think I know about it and could 
possibly put on screens.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

>>I feel we should cool all this a bit. We're going in circles...
>
>Really?  I thought we were getting somewhere with this one...

Gerardus here:
Well, my point is that I like to explain the way I see things, but I 
cannot explain what I have learned in 18 years of study. What is 
'within' will turn out to be a personal thing anyway and there is no 
way I could type out all the answers to all the questions anybody 
might have. (Disk-7 contains many of that!) I have read maybe as many 
as a hundred books about metaphysical stuff and what I think I know, 
cannot be past on by email. It's too cumbersome. There are plenty of 
books out there that would bring anyone to similar conclusion I have 
formed about all that is WITHIN.  It is up to each of us to discover 
our own universe!  I am only the pointing finger and not the truth or 
path for others...


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August 1966
To One and All on the Meaning List...

God or Creation is... an unlimited expression of Love for Itself. That's why
the tiger defends its young, the dog marks its territory and the bee
collects its honey. This is also why we see and have confrontations with
others, for all expressions are different in nature and type in order the
play the Game of God or Creation.  All our actions therefore are natural and
just!

We need to understand that the unlimited expressions of Love for Itself are
extended into the invisible planes of God or Creation and this is why there
are wars in the heavens over territories and or planets and their
populations. Jurisdictions and responsibilities change for all changes are
the leading edge of the unlimitedness of God or Creation and its divers
expressions.

It does not mean that we ought to like or love all the many expressions of
the Source we are and therefore embrace all we do not agree with or see as
foreign.  Some beings and forms are so alien that we need time to adjust to
their beingness in God or Creation of which they also are expressions of
Love for Itself.

It does mean that we need to understand that all of us are different, but
yet spring from the same Source which is Love for Itself.  God or Creation
are the expressions of opposites and dualities. To respect, love and accept
these and admire the diversity within God or Creation is Understanding.

We also need to understand that all systems of belief, all religions, all
philosophies, all political positions and laws are but limited concoctions
of the human mind that restrict his freedom and nature, while some of these
concoctions might be necessary but all are temporary!

May the God within ready itself to The Great Awakening of Mankind, so that
all may understand that all of us are One as expressions of Love for Itself,
but different in nature and type in order to make God or Creation what it
is, infinitely splendid and unimaginable in its unlimitedness.

Therefore - let God or Creation be and let us live in Joy. Celebrating being
a finite aspect of Infinite Love Expressed with a magnificence that can only
be understood because we are the One in Love by means of what we are - the
very image of God or Creation!

Gerardus
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August 18 95

     The universe, in my view, is an undetermined and undifferentiated
     as well as an unlimited amount of different levels of Energies or
     Essences. From this, we create Ourselves and our Levels of Being!
     This means, that all of us can have different thoughts, ideas and
     understandings of this fascinating Essence and all be right!  For
     we all create our own participartory-reality within this infinite
     scheme of realities and/or possibilities...
                                                    *!* Gerardus




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To: Multiple recipients of list lightwork-l 
Sender: owner-lightwork-l@wilbur.protree.com
Reply-To: LightWork-L 
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 22:53:11 BST
X-Sender: spike@mailhost.airtime.co.uk
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4
From: spike@mailhost.airtime.co.uk (Mark Shaun Andrews)
Subject: Re: High-Self and Me/You/Us/All/One

Hi Jane and other listening spirits...
This is one of the few areas where I describe things differently to Geradus. 
I have put my alternative views below.. Hope no-one minds 

>Consciousness has the Nature and Ability to divide itself into infinite 
>Aspects (I never try to say parts) and each aspect carries within itself the 
>image of the original. 
Conciousness has the Nature and ability to forget aspects of itself. This 
gives the illusion of seperate aspects wandering around inside the whole. 
The image of the original is without. An aspect can grow spiritually by 
taking more of the whole within itself.
>IOW: all Aspects or Entities are duplicates of the original and these 
>duplicates have certain aspects which themselves that are very faint and 
>other aspects a bit clearer. (It's like having a lot of blotsy copies of a 
>document, with the blotsy spot are in different places). This creates the 
>different type of individuals and characteristics. All have everything 
>within, but most of it is unreadable or unconscious for now.
The mind likes to reuse illusions, it is easier than creating new ones.. 
This gives a continuity to "reality" and gives rise to the duplication we see..
>So, the High Self then, is the same, and *IS*, all it's little selves, while 
>yet each little self is the High Self in a foggy or distorted manner. To 
>clear this fog is done by living lifetimes for us - for we have chosen to 
>Graduate to the High Self Level the Biological way. (By means of being Jane 
>and Gerardus) 
In a similar way to Geradus not using "parts" I wouldn't use distorted.. 
Foggy seems more apt as you can remember what is in the fog without seeing 
it at this moment, whereas distorted suggests that you can't trust your 
senses. The fog is self generated (of course) to allow us to live lifetimes, 
but we got a bit carried away and forgot more than we should have! Enjoy 
remembering!
Laughter, Love and Light 
Spike


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August 1966
C. here: 
>Addendum to the Virtual Reality thing.... 
>E......could that physical body that B saw through the robot's "eyes" 
>have been a hologram?

Gerardus here:
While E is thinking about his own answer - I give you mine. (Hi E)

The entire universe is ONE Hologram containing aspect-holograms that 
seemingly have a life of their own in order to create diversity by means of 
confusion. Some aspect-holograms look like Human Beings trying to explain 
to themselves where the dickens they came from. This is so, because they 
find themselves kind of lost and bewildered being a specific aspect of 
their own Infinite Self. Who in and by itself is not worth a 'toodle' for 
it needs to be 'personalized' in order to see or experience itself. That's 
why I say: we are God in a thimble looking for a needle to awaken us. The 
needle does not exist, but most Human Beings don't know this. I slyly 
suspect that it an infinite laugh! No Clown or Clone believes me... 
-------------------------------------------

C here: 
The theory is just too fascinating to let go of. 
>Perhaps when the light hits the retina of our eyes, we create all these 
>holograms.

Gerardus here: 
The light that hits our eyes is the Energy that IS the Infinite Universal 
Hologram within which we have taken individual positions in order to look 
at a specific aspect - the Physical Reality - around us. It differs for 
all of us, for it is a complete and total self-created thing for there is 
no objective reality out there. All that is 'out there' is the Infinite 
Energy out of which we as Creators manufacture our own reality, our own 
way. That's why some are better than others... 
--------------------------

C here: 
>Hope I am not becoming tedious....I just want to KNOW this.
Gerardus here: 
Yeah, "want to know this" - fair enough. All we can do for now is similar 
to what the little boy does when he turns on the TV. He knows how to 
'work' it, but he doesn't know how it works. What else is new??
I feel that as long as we 'enjoy' what we experience - we are doing an 
excellent job of creating. Please pass me the Cookies for my mind is 
sagging. Long live the Baker and his Infinite Self!

BTW: The short answer to C questions is: There are only holograms 
anywhere - but we in our greatness experience them as physical bodies, of 
which most girls look better than most guys - including this hologram...

We as Man are the Thoughts of the Creator 
but 
We also are the Creator thinking.

Gerardus


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April 1997
To One and All...

Comets and all other objects are multi-dimensional energies of
which we only see and experience certain aspects in the Three
Dimensional Reality of the Physical.  Since we only experience
certain aspects of Comets or all objects we think that they 
are only three dimensional. This is not so!  

For example: 
Is an urge or a feeling a three dimensional thing? Is life 
only ruled by chemicals?  Or are chemicals and or physical
things the result of feelings and/or Mind or Soul?

Human Beings and or Comets are a lot more than three
 dimensional Objects or Energies. 

           All things are multi-dimensional!

Many people and or scientists do not want to discuss multi-
dimensionality for they have limited themselves to certain
areas only. That is why metaphysical discussions to them
belong somewhere else. This is limited in vision!  Why 
determine before hand to what limit any discussion ought to
go?  Life is Everything and to limit a discussion is 
putting blinders on...!

Why limit our interest to the physical only?  Are we ashamed 
to speak about Feelings and/or Soul!  We are Feeling Beings 
expressed in Human Form that seem to look like bodies. We 
are a lot more than these bodies we live in...!  We are Life
itself expressed in Human Form in order to learn about all
the possibilities Life itself is able to create.  Being Human 
is only a temporary experiment or experience.  We have been 
many other Forms of Life before we decided to become Human...

Gerardus 

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May 1997
            - - - - - - - Cosmic Notes - - - - - - - 

When we go back far enough we will discover that we were the creators of the 
solar system and her planets. We created the animals, from amoeba to 
elephants and eventually we created a suitable animal that would accommodate 
our spiritual energies. We began to 'live-in' these animals and enjoyed the 
physical realities. This was new to spirits!  Eventually the time came to 
live full-time in these bodies and we became Human. The Great Light Beings 
we were then, expressed themselves physically and proliferated into human 
beings and their incarnations. This has been going on for such a long time 
however that we have forgotten where we came from, who we really are, and 
what we are doing here and why... 

Now is the time to awaken to what is and remember that we are the cause and 
result of our experiment. All this took billions of years naturally, 
although we really cannot speak of time for the appreciation of time had to 
be gained by living in it. In any case, we have come to the end of our 
daring physical endeavor and the Great Awakening is just around the corner. 

Is this why we are visited by Alien Vehicles?  Are they our older brothers 
and have they been looking after us for ages and ages? Are they the Lords of 
Old, the ones Ezekiel met and chatted with?  Naturally they are!  Who else 
would come and visit us?  Greet them with joy and friendship for they are 
our Benefactors... 

Gerardus

*** Note added in August 2001:
Not all Alien Beings are necessarily friendly toward human kind. 
Be careful and be aware!  Knowledge of what is - protects... 

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May 1997
>Gerardus...I neglected to ask your permission to use your material.  If  I
>have quoted you out of context, I look forward to any corrections or
>comments you may have...with happy anticipation!   :-)
>As ever...with love,
>C/TriLite List

Hi C\TriLite List and EveryOne...
I could not have done a better job myself Cynthia - Thank You. 

Metaphysics - yeah, it really is all the "ordinary-stuff" in our life.  How
did it get here?  And what happens to it when we let go of it?  Well, it
got here because we were able to visualize it first, then we manufactured it. 
And how did we do that?   We used the ingenuity of the Creator within us 
and low and behold - the most complicated tools and appliances roll out of
our factories by the millions.  You are using one right now...  Wow!

All this - created by a lot of thought and a bit of Earth. Mixed together
to astonish the inhabitants of the world.  And most of them find it but
ordinary stuff.  Yes, even boring maybe!  And who created this Man - the
Thinker??  

Aha!   Now we really touch upon the Notes of Metaphysics...

Mankind and the Creator are One Being, One Energy, One Ingenuity, One
Source of Being.  The Source and its Creation are One!  The Creator and its
Creation are each other.  And many aspects of this Creation are wondering -
how is all this possible?  They wonder, because the Spirit or
Interconnection that ties it all together is invisible.  The Creator has
fooled itself and it is confused.  The Creator is like a dog barking in a
Universe of Mirrors and all it sees is other dogs barking.  Finally it is
silent and it finds itself!

Why is this Creator confused?  It's simply this - we as the Creator, we as
Man have entered a phase of our Creative Endeavor, within which we have
lost 'touch' with the Source we Are.  This was necessary in order to
descend deeper into our creation of Matter.  We used to be pure Energy! 

I think it says in the bible - God descended and became Flesh.   Now, pinch
yourself real hard and listen to who is shouting.  It's the creator of the
pinch.  The Creator of all things!  Hiding behind the dust of Flesh called
Man - who is crying for help and mercy because he has lost the Knowledge of
Who and What he really is.  

We as the Creator did all this - out of Love for Ourselves in order to
wander out into our Creation like the Prodigal Son.  And then return to be
Forgiven and Celebrated about. Because now he has seen the Greatness of his
own Being, within All That Is.  And all he saw was himself...

Gerardus
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July 1997
Hello K/TriLite List...  Hello All...

Awfully good questions you have Kevin. I will attempt to answer some. First
of all there is a long article about what the **new age** is on my
homepages. Look in the index for: Why a New Age anyway?   It's toooo long
to put on here now...

BTW: TriLite is not really a news group.  We all deal with old stuff. 
The Science of Man and his infinite Consciousness.   Metaphysics and or
Philosophy. All grouped in one by: New Age!  It's been around for a while.
-------------------------------------

K here:
> Without understanding what it means to other people, I assume that it
probably deals with a new realm of thinking after one has awakened. 

Gerardus here:
Awakening is a process - so there are different levels of awakening. The
Buddha and/or the Christ are fully awakened.  There are many others but for
now - two is enough... 
---------------------------------

K here:
>Yet,
>I assume that the great majority of people involved in the 'new age'
>movement have not awaken. I feel that a lot of people are just pretending
>to be awake. 

Gerardus here:
Hard to tell what others are at. Trick is to keep wondering along yourself
by allowing things to come to you.  What's the hurry once you know that we
all live forever?  Enjoy the Moment! Our experience or knowledge becomes an
aspect of our higher self in the end.  Which is what we are anyway...
-------------------------------------

K here:
>To the uninformed public, I might assume that new age is all that weird
>stuff like astral travel and astrology. But surely there must be more to
>it than that. 

Gerardus here:
The masses have not caught on yet precisely but they suspect that something
is up I feel. What, they do not know, and it make them itchy. And as you
know itch is worse than pain!
-------------------------------

K here:
>Everyone is sure to have a different interpretation of what it means to
>them. Perhaps to some it is a platform of thinking on a higher level of
>consciousness. To others, it is an answer to quieten the part of the
>mind that is screaming for truth. To others.... Well, some just want to
>be into weird stuff. There's stuff floating around that is utter
>nonsense, but some will believe just because it's unconventional. 

Gerardus here:
You summed it up properly.  We are all on different levels and it might
seem that some are more along then others.  Not true in my mind. Beyond
time - we all might be at the same spot.  The learning Spot!
-----------------------------------

K here:
>I'm very curious as to who is in this news group. How many people are
>part of this? What are they like... What are YOU like? This group is
>dominated by a few voices. 

Gerardus here:
The entire world of Man is an aspect of the Great Awakening of Mankind.
Some however might not be able to grasp the in depth concepts of it. When
the older folks disappear for example the younger ones automatically create
a New Age of Understanding.  They are that type of Soul or Consciousness.
At the moment the entire Mass Consciousness hangs on the tails of the ones
seeming ahead...

There are about 90 people on TriLite. It's holiday time and some have left.
There are other lists like this.  They all deal with the same subject: Life!
-------------------------------------

K here:
>Are these just people who read books, or have
>thought a lot, or are these people schooled, awakened, and unified
>people. Are they just playing a role? 

Gerardus here:
Yes, some of us have made sure that we kind of caught on what is going to
happen. We have read books. However, many of us know by heart or intuition
what will go...

And yes, we are all playing roles.  The entire Earth is a stage!  ShakieBoy
already told us.  In general there is going to be a change in the
understandings of mankind and soon many will know that we live forever. 

This will create self-responsibility.  At the present however the masses
are being held prisoner by the Rulers of the World.  The Banks,
Politicians, Religions, Insurance Companies, the Media. etc. etc.  It's a
make Believe Nonsense World at the Moment.  Kid stuff to put it shortly.
Hard to change until it collapses maybe.   More and more awakened people
will eventually demand change. They might have to run for it politically.
Followers will come for more eyes are opened each day...
---------------------------------------------------

K here:
>I'm sure that a lot of people are just playing a role that makes them
>feel like they are playing along with the nature of the universe. I'm
>sure that a lot of people are looking at these topics on a superficial
>level, and are never changed by the depth of the thoughts. 

Gerardus here:
Yes!  You cannot teach poetry to monkeys.  The earth is a school with many
grades - too many maybe.  This might change...
----------------------------------------------

K here:
>Are the people involved in the 'new age' higher level beings, or are
>they just people with different beliefs. 

Gerardus here:
They are not higher or better. Just different. Older Souls or just a bit
more evolved. They are Doneits as I call them.  (Done it)  More experienced
and so a bit wiser...  
--------------------------------------------


K here:
>These things I do not understand. These things I question.

Gerardus here:
You are wise to have done so!  Yes, you are not the only one who questions.
 Presently I'd say that 90% does not have a clue.  It used to be 99%...
We are gaining!   The world is waiting for the Hundredth Monkey - are you
it?   Just laugh it off Kevin...
------------------------------------------------

>I am also curious if any one is part of any other newsgroups. I am part
>of a 4th way group also. Anyone else? Are other people here aware of the
>4th way? 

Gerardus here:
I cannot speak for others. I know that some of us are members of more than
one list.  I used to be, but I have no time for other lists now. TriLite
and the Cookie List, and this, and that, keep me busy!
------------------------------------

>Thanks for your time. I look forward to your replies, either in public,
>or privately sent to me.

Yes, your questions are welcome for there are others on the list who have
the same questions.  Human Life is a 'teaching' by which all of us
eventually become self responsible for all things. This includes
self-education and the all important concept of Love. In my book Love is
Understanding!  This includes the Understanding that all of us are really
alone and walk a singular path. (Bring a Sandwich)

Gerardus
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>S. here: 
>Since humans are really divine beings, and humans make errors,
>why not "To err is divine?" After all, every error is a
>lesson, and that's what we're here for, so there's no gap between
>human and divine, or between error and forgiveness.

Gerardus here:
The words  - divine - holy - saint - infallible - crucifixion - hell -
heaven - purgatory - sinner - saint - god - are all religious words. I
guess they became popular since many, if not all religions, became the
educators of the world population in the past.  The people connected with
the religions were among the few who could read and write, so logically the
way they looked at things, these words slipped into our dictionaries later
on.  Religions had an enormous impact upon humanity.  Now - in my view -
all these words are useless in modern thinking for they are phoney or
nonsense...

If there is 'divinity' there in 'non-divinity'.  So, why bother to use
divinity or divine?  All things either are 'divine' or they are just as
they are without naming them anything.   ( Like S I AM - I like it )

I feel that all Things, Beings and/or Entities are equal!  But play
different roles in the Game of Goofs or Illusions.   The Creator's Dream -
Creation - is a relative thing or reality. Infinite but relative!  The
Creator is Real but its dream is a virtual reality.  As Human Beings we are
entangled in this relative reality and think that we are real!   On top of
all this, the human aspect of this game fascinates us.  Or did anyway!  Now
- not that there is anything wrong with that!  Not at all - there is
nothing else to do anyway.  So, why not become lost in it and play the fool
for a while...
--------------------------------------------

>> Gerardus here:
>> Thank you Cynthia!
>> I think we should expand upon that one.
>> To err is human - to forgive is divine - to laugh even better!
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> C here:
>> That little sentence contains a real wallop.....it is the ultimate
>> punch-line if one truly understands its meaning.  It is apparent to me that
>> all that separates me from my divinity is the belief that I am separated
>> from it. 


Gerardus here:
Yes!  That's the idea!!  However there comes a time that one might prefer
to move on and see different flowers within the fields of universal reality. 
However relative these fields might be...

I feel that the entire Universe is an infinite Joke of which we are the
'butt' end.  It's played on us - by us.  We wanted it this way!  
--------------------------------------


C here:
>>This is the human error...the belief that we are physical bodies
>> separated from All That Is by an ego encased in a sack of skin, as it were.

Gerardus here:
I'm not sure that we could call it a human error or anybody's goof. It is
just the way we have things set-up for a while and we dove into it both
eyes blinded completely on purpose.  Here we are; 'seeing' through it part
way. The veil is lifting...    And she is Looking Good!!
--------------------------------------------

C here:
>> When we can look into each other's eyes and see ourselves there, we have
>> overcome this purely human perception that the ego presents and we can
>> offer the gift that will transform all humanity--indeed, the world...
>> Forgiveness.

Gerardus here:
Yes!  That's why I say:

    I am 100% in favor of an Unconditional Ascension.  This means that
    everybody, good/bad or indifferent, is raised to a higher level of
    Awareness, regardless of whether or not their karmic sequences are
    completed. As far as I am concerned, each and everyone is forgiven
    whatever they did.

    Naturally if you want to stay in a 3D karmic environment you may do
    so by reincarnating upon a different planet. The Earth is scheduled
    to ascend!  So, let's hop on the next Wave of Creativity. Enough of
    this Darkness, let's enter the Light of Love - The Fifth Dimension!

------------------------------------------


C here:
>> It is my hope that we can bypass that old religious connotation that the
>> word "divine" implies...and go to a more accurate definition of the word
>> for metaphysical purposes......it is a verb meaning "to perceive by
>> intuition or insight."  


Gerardus here:
Yes!  Let's use "awareness" of/at different levels - different grades. 
Like mice-awareness - human awareness - cosmic awareness - Christ Awareness
- Game Master Awareness - and so on!

To me - calling ourselves 'divine' makes just as much sense as that we call
ourselves "holy energy" - naturally energy is neither holy or unholy. Our
'energy' is just like electricity!  Useable for any purpose we want to..
-------------------------------

C here:
>>IMHO, divinity is the birthright of all of us as
>> aspects of the Absolute.  We do not have to earn this gift...it has always
>> been ours...we have simply forgotten how to use it.

Gerardus here:
Yes.  Humanity is a divine happening!  However, so what?  In the mean time,
'divinity' is a concept that shrieks off the religious, for they are still
struggling in the levels of their mind that separates them from the
Universe or Creator they are.  It separates them from what they are!

The normal course of evolvement is to transcend this separation and the
best way to do this is to leave the kindergarten of religion and go it
alone.  This mean that we are 'reborn' and continue on our own!  We become
free individuals searching for our own unlimited potential under our own
power. 
We walk our beat alone!  Not too many are ready, but the next decade will
make many ponder the possibilities. The light within will speak when ready!


       ! The Beauty of Self is present in the Moment of Nowness !
                       Touch it lightly and smile.


                      Light... Love... and Laughter.
                             - - Gerardus - -

August 1997
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August 1997
>S here:
>The only static life I know of is the eternal, unchanging I Am, the
>universal consciousness, Being itself. Dynamic life is the Action, 
>the motion, the e-motion, of the so-called physical universe, where
>all is change and all is opposites. Being has been described also
>as the great void within which all material creation resides. The 
>void is static. Creation is dynamic.


Hi S...   Hi All...

Gerardus here:

Very nice words.  Yes, BUT!   Consider this... 

The Being within which all of creation resides and is permeated with, the
so called Observer, is the very One that is changing and growing infinitely! 
The changes and expansion of ITS Beingness is the changing and expanding of 
the very "possible potentialities" that are reflected within the
holographic aspects of Creation - Mankind on Earth and all others Things
and Beings.  

In my view: Anything - including the Void, TIL, God or The Nameless that
does not change - dies out of boredom or becomes stagnant and dries-up!
THAT what lives within me is not static!  It grows, because I grow and all
Others grow or expand in awareness...

The entire Universe, high and low, in all dimensions - IS - an "Infinitely
Complicated Holographic Signal or Energy", of which certain aspects are
noticed/perceived by its images or reflections - the "Individual Holograms
in Human Form" - and exist within this Signal. These Human Holograms are
created in such a way that they accept the physical as the reality they
live in. Some even think that it is the only reality...
  
This "Infinitely Complicated Holographic Signal or Energy" IS the Void or
Being as some people used to call it.  However, it is not a Void at all!!  
It is neither a Being at Rest in Bliss!

It is the "Infinitely Complicated Holographic Signal or Energy" which in
and by itself is unconscious or unaware and IT becomes consciously aware
within the Individual-Holograms of Creation.  Mankind, all Other Beings and
Things are these Individual Holograms and have the Wholeness of Creation
vaguely reflected with their awareness.  We are its Image!  This means the
more we grow in awareness - the more we realize the "Infinitely Complicated
Holographic Signal or Energy" which some people call God or TIL... 

BTW:
I realize that what I say deviates from what has been said by the old Sages
who spoke of the Void or Nothingness as the Womb of Creation.  This Void or
Nothingness is the Holographic Energy I speak of - which is NOT
Nothingness. It is the Signal or Energy out of which all things arise...

Down To Earth Example:  
Let's say that God or TIL is Electrical Energy.   Within this Electrical
Energy there are appliances. (The Elohim and Others)  All appliances *use*
the all permeating Electrical Energy and grow from its Power.  Naturally
some have grown more than others and all expand upon their beingness by
creating other appliances - Stars, Planets, Mankind and other Beings.  Of
which Sam and Gerardus and the rest of TriLite and the World are additional
and specific individual Thinkers/Feelers and Co-Creators.  And they in turn
create their own reality and world around them... 

We are the One experiencing the All - We are the All experiencing the One!

Gerardus 
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August 1997
At 06:21 PM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote:

C here:
>Hi Gerardus and all....
>You wrote:
>"You know, at my time - I just was driven to write.  In a way I did not
>have to listen either - I just had to write!  I think they were shouting at
>me! Nothing could stop it.  Often enough - I wonder what I myself had to do
>with it - next to Zilch - sort of."
>
>C here:
>Well...I am curious--you speak of all this in the past tense.  Do they not
>still speak to you? 

Gerardus here:
Once I finally got the Universe to fall in love with me Cynthia (Took many
lifetimes naturally) - I became and am the forever favorite Bloke so to
speak. (Smile a lot here and maybe even snicker!)  I can still write like
in the past - but there seems to be less need for it.  IOW: I'm on some
kind of a 'break'.   An old horse put to rest maybe for while...

Seriously now: 
Yes, I spoke in the past tense and I meant the years 1980/84 or so.  I
still write very easily nowadays, but not as driven.  It takes me a long
time to complete a post however, since I am a two fingered artist and
sometimes try to correct/change what I wrote.  (Change the structure of the
sentences.)

I also feel that I have different Guides with me now, compared to the
earlier years.  I guess they need a break as well - wow!   All are smiling
here!  
-------------------------------------------------


C here:
>I have had the feeling many times when I read your
>posts to TriLite....that your comments are unerringly on the mark....I am
>wondering if on these occasions, the same thing happens---does your
>response sometimes come spontaneously, as did your earlier writings?  

Gerardus here:
Yes, I would say that I write spontaneously.  I do not specifically sit
down for any post and/or prepare my thoughts for it and do it differently
the next time.  I let mySelf babble on so to speak.  Once a babbler always
a babbler I suppose.   I have greater trouble speaking for example, for
there are other energies around.  Sometimes however, I guess when
necessary, it flows like water and I don't even know it.  I know it's
happening but I am not directly aware of what to say or of what I said...  
--------------------------------

C here:
>I'm not just curious...but I would like to know how you get your conscious
>mind out of the way so the communication can come through.  I find this
>very difficult.  As I write, I can't control the urge to read and question
>the material, instead of just letting it flow.  

Gerardus here:
I do not go 'consciously' out of the way completely and I used to call my
state my writers trance.  So, basically nothing much else in the room exist
once I climb on top of my keyboard.  Hours pass and I do not notice them...

In general I'd say: I write from the heart and let my mind have its nap.
It's used to it, not much there anyway but algebra and metaphysical
malarkey, etc etc.  Also - I dream about writing often and I seem to
prepare for posts that are not even written yet...   

Another thing I feel is, that there really is nobody else out there but me. 
IOW: I have my monologues.  Some monologue discussions, like James' for
example, I cannot completely understand, but it does not bother me. I know
that I am wired differently for reasons that are obvious to me.  The
universe is diversity for the purpose to reach all!  I do not know what
else to say here for it is next to impossible to explain myself.  I just do
what I do - doing it...

Now C, I am often most amazed at the depth and scope of your posts. 
How do you do what you do??   Told you this was going to turn out in a 
mutual admiration society!   Well - I guess that's what monologue are for!

Gerardus
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August 1997
At 05:25 PM 8/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello Gerardus and all...
>You wrote:
>"I feel that 'everything' changes Everything.  And that WHICH IS is a
>changing Isness.  Not steady or static or not influenced."
>
>You speak only of the physical universe.  I tell you that there is an
>uncreated universe...the NO-THING from which everything emanates.  Similar
>to the vacuum which must exist in order for chemical reactions to take
>place.  This is what I mean by that WHICH IS...and it is changeless and
>unaffected by any "things" or thoughts.  IT is pure consciousness.  And IT
>can be experienced if one is willing to take that leap into the VOID and
>discover their real identity.  
>Cynthia



Gerardus here:
Thank you C.  
Before I leap into the Void I peeked into the Mystery I AM and it likes to
say this:

Sorry, to give you the impression that I spoke of the physical universe
only. I seldom do.  I speak as *if* I know something about the entire
phenomenon.  

Which in my view is a Holographic Universal Source or Infinite Spectrum out
of which the entire creation issues.  Being drawn out (manifested) by
Creators, High, Big or Small, including ourselves.  The Holographic Matrix
'holds' All Things in a potential form. In a No-Form. ( Not a Thought Form
either! )

One could call it the Void but it is not Nothing!   We could consider it
the unmanifested or implicate order of the Holographic Projection of
Creation - Creation being the manifested or explicate order.  When our
Awareness focusses on this Matrix we can create anything we like. We
manifest it...

((I have assumed here that all things in Creation, high and low, are
holographic projections or images existing within the Matrix and hold the
total within themselves but not in a obvious or conscious manner.))

No Being ever will be conscious *as* this Universal Holographic Matrix for
it is indeed a "No-Thing" that is "EveryThing" out of which all Things are
born or issued.  Possibly one could be conscious of this Matrix and
experience it, but we cannot be conscious as it.  We might be conscious of
this Void or Matrix as you say, after we leap into it.  I don't know what
one is conscious of then. I have never been there that I know of.  I am
'from' it however like all other Blokes and People and Things...

In order to be - one has to be an aspect of this Matrix - but being an
aspect of it only means being conscious of being a Self, High, Big or Small
within it. So, all Things or Beings, High, Big or Small exist within the
Total at all times, but they occupy a changing conscious position or
function within it when they function as a Being (High or Low) within
Creation...

Therefore this "No-Thing" Matrix changes all the time for it is the Total
Infinite Sum of All That Is in an unmanifested Order (Implicate).  We are
an Image of this "No-Thing" Matrix in a manifested manner.  We and all
Things are the Explicate Order...  

Example: 
We all belong to Humanity  but  Humanity is nowhere to be found in and by
itself, except as human beings within the population of the world.
Humanity changes all the time but only because the people do.  If Humanity
was infinite in scope - we could create any being we would want to and have
it function as a human so to speak...  

             ! The greatest mystery is the Mystery Within ! 
                        - We all have our Own -

Gerardus


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The Word of God...! Nonsense!!
Anything written and claiming to be the Word of God directly indicates the 
level of awareness of the one claiming this. Medium to Low!
However, what is Low... and what is High? 
Life is a journey upon which we learn by traveling that we are the Inifinite 
Traveler. Possibly - God might be on the end of the road. For now we may 
assume that some Spark of this Force lives within us and IS us, for the 
Traveler and God are one while traveling!
The Words of Gerardus.
==================

At one Time I was God but I became bored with it.
I fell asleep and dreamt that I was Gerardus. 
This was enough to keep me awake. 
Eventually I began to search 
why and when I fell asleep.
I discovered that my sole purpose was 
to be Gerardus to the fullest.
...and my discovery is my Celebration!
=====================================

Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus.


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September 1997
To One and All...

Statement 1)
The entire Universe is a Mind that issues and receives thoughts. 

Statement 2)
The Holographic Nature of the Universal Mind maintains a record of all
Thoughts ever thought!  

Statement 3)
The World of Man has its own tiny aspect within this Universal Holographic
Mind Matrix and whatever was ever thought about on Earth can be found
within the patterns of the World Holographic Record. (Akashic Records?) 
= = = = =

Conclusion:
Suppose now that somebody started a lie two thousand years ago and billions
of people have believed in this lie!  Now what?   This means that there is
a Holographic Record of this lie, for all Thoughts are recorded.  However,
the record of this lie is not distinguishable from the records of a truth,
for all Thoughts are imprinted equally and no special marks are given to a
truth or to a lie.  ( Gi-Go )

The fact that the lie is imprinted into the World Holographic Matrix means
that anyone who is able to interpret the Holographic Matrix is able to pull
a two thousand year old lie out of it and say: here it is --> a truth!  And
in a way he is right, for the combined Thought Energies, imprinted into the
World Matrix of the particular happening, are but patterns of Energy.  No
one living at the moment can say what was true or what was false by
'sensing' this record. 

The fact that the lie was a lie, is imprinted as well naturally, but this
one Thought is so small compared to the billions of Thoughts of all the
believers in the lie that it cannot really be found anymore.  To me all
this means, that the only thing that shifts the lies from the truths is
common sense.  

Gerardus


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The Word of God...! Nonsense!!
Anything written and claiming to be the Word of God directly indicates the 
level of awareness of the one claiming this. Medium to Low!
However, what is Low... and what is High? 
Life is a journey upon which we learn by traveling that we are the Inifinite 
Traveler. Possibly - God might be on the end of the road. For now we may 
assume that some Spark of this Force lives within us and IS us, for the 
Traveler and God are one while traveling!
The Words of Gerardus.
==================

At one Time I was God but I became bored with it.
I fell asleep and dreamt that I was Gerardus. 
This was enough to keep me awake. 
Eventually I began to search 
why and when I fell asleep.
I discovered that my sole purpose was 
to be Gerardus to the fullest.
...and my discovery is my Celebration!
=====================================

Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus.



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Subject: Re: Delayed Ascension Revisited..
 
>Hmmmm. Where to start? Oh I know.. 
>Greetings Lightworkers and listening groupies, 
> 
>Much as ego would like to address individual points in the interesting 
>replies to Spike's post, I thought perhaps it may be fairer to intervene and 
>clarify my position.. There were many clear thoughts within the messages and 
>some not so clear.. I leave it to your spirit to inform you which are 
>which.. For my part in this little scenario the following may help to 
>clarify the script..
------ snip snip snip --------- and snip a lot more ------------
>Love, 
>Unowho 
======================

Gerardus here: 
Unowho seems to be too complicated for his own britches in order to button 
down his own intelligent mind and give the lead to his heart strings to play 
the tunes of Greatness. This really means that he means so darn well that 
his good intentions overshoot his sincerity and it confuses not only Unowho 
but also his admirers. All of them stand in awe of his Spiritness hidden in 
a bag of bones that looks young and juicy, not necessarily recognized by 
ordinary fools... 
It seems that the toughness of the mental image Spike is, has become the 
Hammer that hits him on the head to conclude that the hardness of the 
illusion is greater than reality. The Wow of the occasion far exceeds the 
simplicity of Monday morning nonsense, brown bagged hidden in a briefcase.
Yes, simplicity seems to be eluding the issue and seductively takes a back 
seat to the second pot on the third burner. It's so darn confusing that it 
makes one wonder what's wrong with this Soul who wrote all this... Hmmm?! 
Who am I but God inabodyhuman thinking that I'm saying something. Who knows 
maybe I do? I love Unowho, for although I do not seem to understand his 
problems, they yet went through me like a breeze I forgot to give a name. 
Welcome to the Club of Worders... 
Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus.


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September 1997
To One and All...

Big Questions here: 
What is God and what do most people understand this God to be?

I am not sure whether it will help anyone to put my idea of God 
on the line but in any case - here it is:

There is Energy!  There is Information!  These are the two basic aspects
(ingredients) of the Universe.  All Things and Beings consist of a
combination of these two Things.  So let's say, a mountain is a lot of
Energy and a little bit of Information.  A human being is Energy with a lot
of Information.  Especially if we include the Soul and its "Information
System and its infinite Inter-Connections" as the inhabitant of the human
body.

Within this Energy and its Information (for short: Mind) there are
different planes or levels of existences and within these levels there are
billions of different kinds of Beings and Things including Thoughts.
Thoughts are Information super-imposed upon a specific Energy and they
exist upon a different level than the body for example.   All is Mind
however!  Even the body is Mind.  Mind in a certain form... 

Now what is God?   The above!  God is All That IS.  However, this God or
Universal Energy and its Information is NOT the Creator of the Universe or
the Creator of the World and the people in it.  To put it really short -->
God IS Creation!

So what are we?  We are Creation!  So - we are God!  And where is the
Creator?  The Creator is not just one particular Being or Spirit or Entity.
The Creator as such is the 'Creative Energy' which lives within its
Creation. It lives within us!  It slumbers there and every time we come to
a new level of understanding, we, as well as the Creator within, awaken to
that new understanding.  The Creator within really is our Soul - that what
we are!

IOW: There is no God or Creator out there or 'within' all by and in itself.
The Creator or God is (seemingly) divided all over its Creation.  It lives
and IS ALL.  Some specific "know-it-all" Entity or Being called God does
not exist!  God IS Creation.  God and Creation are not two different things!

Naturally there are Great Beings in the Universe who are responsible for
certain aspects of Creation like Mankind for example.  Well - let's say
that the Being responsible for the Solar System is the Sun.  Yes, our
ordinary Sun shining away there and people sit in.  Beautiful!   Our Sun is
an alive Being in the same sense as that the Earth is.  They are both alive
Beings...

Our Sun for example is the Creative Power within the Solar system and all
of us are created by this Sun and its Co-Creators.  Who are these
Co-Creators?  Well - I think they are you and me and other people!  These
people however are not just people or human beings, for their "beingness"
***extents*** all the way up into the highest levels of Creation.  Human
Beings are but the tip of the last hair on the tail of the Infinite Being
we Are.  Wow!   Point is - we are the Infinite Being!

IOW: Above us somewhere there is a Co-Creator we call the Higher Self or
OverSoul and it is responsible for, let's say 10,000 people and their pets.
Other Co-Creators are responsible for other people and their canaries. etc
etc etc.  All human beings then are representatives of an OverSoul or a
Higher Self.  Now - We are this Higher Self in the same way as that we are
Creation.  In the same way as that we are Life!

The entire Creation then looks more like General Motors than just one God
on top who does all things and looks after all of its Creation.  No such
God exist!  The entire Creation works like our body.  Is the heart more
important than the brain?  Is the liver less important than the Kidneys?
Are eyes better than ears?   No Sir!  No Madam!  Not true!  Every atom,
molecule, cell, organ of our body is just as important as the rest, for all
together they make it possible for a Soul to live in it and have a ball.
And Souls on the other hand, are aspects of greater Souls and these greater
Souls are aspects of even greater Beings who facilitate Creation in the
same way you and I write a letter.  We just do it! 

While in the mean time, every human being or individual is a living aspect
and participant of the Greatest Being there is.  And who or what is that?
This Being or Beingness is the Creative Force!  That is what we are - the
Creator, the Universe - or Life 'feeling' itself.  Being Human for now...

Well, my story is not perfect for I am too much in a hurry.  I think I know
why.  It's the Creator within - she is a 'pushing me...  

Gerardus

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October 28 95


Gerardus here:
>>Another thing! I do not feel that the crucifixion was what the churches
>>pretend it to be.  To die on a cross as told is a bit of religious nonsense
>>in my view. It's a symbolic thing...   We all carry the Matter Cross just
>>being here!  Somewhere I have more on this...

Gray Squirrel here:
>You're right about this.  Somehow I can't see why anyone can die on a 
>cross.  Take the Philippines and the Central American countries, for 
>example.  Each year, around Easter, they re-enact the life of Jesus 
>(Passion Plays?). . . and the ones who play his part rarely die when they 
>are literally nailed to a cross.  I'd have to spend some time to figure out 
>the actual meaning of it. . . if it's possible.  (Can't say it DIDN'T 
>happen, though. . .)

Gerardus here:

Hello Gray Squirrel...

Well, here is one version of the story:
 
I do not believe Gray Squirrel that this man was crucified. The 
religions have made quite the story about this person and I do not 
believe their stories...
                
                    ==================================

The person called Jesus The Christ attained the "Son of God" level or also
called; The Christ Consciousness or Buddhahood, or whatever people 
call this State of Mind, by living many and many lifetimes upon this 
planet or others.

After many and many lifetimes then, he was born as Hesus or Jesus for the
last time (the biological way), and he would live his last lifetime as 
Jesus. He studied most of his younger years and when he was at a 
relatively young age (say 32) he was going to be initiated!  This 
"initiation" at that time, was called "crucifixion" or something 
similar.  This initiation was the final test or exam that has to be 
completed before he could be accepted by his peers and then would 
belong to the "Initiated" or the "Infinite Souls" of the Universe!  
Immortality as Jesus The Christ!  Or Sananda as he is called also nowadays.

This Initiation meant that the initiate would be tied to a cross like the
Roman number 10, which is a "X".  (The initiate has gone from 1 to 10 )
The initiate is tied to this "X" with leather straps in a most 
informal manner, for it is a ritual and then the initiate leaves the 
body, voluntarily, and visits many other planes of existence.

S/he stays away for three days and nights and then returns to the 
Earth and the body. In the mean time the Teachers and other 
"contemporaries in learning" take care of the body and assure that it 
is not interfered with. In other words they 'babysit' a soulless body! 
  A Zombie!

After three days, upon the return of the Initiate, he or she must tell what
places were visited and what was seen and experienced.  (The Teachers 
and others know what's out there so to speak)  This was to assure that 
s/he knew what s/he was talking about and thus could proof that s/he 
is capable of leaving the body, visit other worlds and return in time. 
 (Some people fall asleep and fake it maybe? - Ha Ha)

Well anyway, after this initiation the Initiate receives the title of
"Christ" (possibly from the Great Krishna Initiate) and from there on 
in, s/he is an Infinite Soul who has the power or ability to appear 
any place, any time, all over the Worlds as s/he sees fit.  It really 
means that this person is totally FREE!  One has become a Son of God 
or we also could say that s/he has realized the "True Realization of 
Self"  IOW. S/he is ONE with the Father as the man Jesus called it.  
After that, this person radiates "light" for s/he lives now in the 
"Light Body"!  The dense matter of the body has become Light. 
Intelligence, Wisdom, Truth, Reality, Love!  ... and naturally - Joyfulness!

As you see, the above is quite different than the stories told by the
religions about Jesus The Christ.  Naturally, we all have the freedom 
to believe what we want and what satisfies us. 

Naturally this is only a story and it might be nonsense. It's up to 
you what to believe. The best is to believe nothing and when you are 
ready, you travel back in time and find out yourself first hand...

Please be happy... Life is a Celebration!

=============================================

My source of the above, which I identified with almost immediately, in 
1980 or so, is the following. The originator of the story was:
       
     E Yada di Shi-ite, shortly called Yada!  The Teachers of Light!

Yada is/was a personality not focused in our physical reality anymore 
and spoke through a person called Mark Probert of San Diego, CA.  For 
almost 30 years Yada and some others spoke through this man and 
revealed an astounding story to me and many others.  Yada had once 
lived 500.000 years ago and was a priest or official in a Temple of 
some sort.  Anyway, there have come about, because of Yada and his 
friends, thousands of pages of a Teaching that is superior to any New 
Age Magazine of today...

In this book Yada tells the story of Jesus, and to me this has been 
one of the most trustworthy tales I've ever heard about this Great 
Man.  This Jesus naturally is somebody entirely different than the 
"Bleeding Heart Jesus" the churches speak about!  As far as I can 
figure out the personality that was and is Jesus or Sananda is 
absolutely in a different category that you and I, and possibly will 
be for a while to come! 

However I know that Time is an Illusion, so we could also say: In all 
aspects we are as Great as this Jesus or Buddha for we are Infinite 
Souls just the same. Our status is not fully realized at this moment 
in time, which at this moment, is our Dream! In other words: we all 
are already enlightened or a Son of God. After all we have lived infinitely!!

There are actually two books the Teacher of Light sell and they are 
both worth the money a thousand times.  The one book is: Yada Speaks 
and the other book is: "The Magic Bag"  Here is the address and send 
them about 20 dollars. (I think by now)  There is more in these books 
than you will see on an email list naturally. Also, it's a lot handier 
to have a book...

The address:

Mark Probert - Kethra E'DA
P.O. Box 11672  Palo Alto  CA  94306  USA

Include a couple of bucks for the shipping if you like.
 
         Light... Love... and Laughter!           *!* Gerardus.




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October 1997
At 11:53 PM 10/7/97 +1000, you wrote:

>> Dear Gerardus, 
>oh I hope I am not becoming a pain in the butt with this ongoing
>discussion!


Hi Ga and All...
When I stop responding - you better send me an aspirin or two.  Don't want 
to use anything big...  (;)=
------------------------------------


Gerardus here:
>> Yes, it makes perfect sense for the position or state of mind you are in.
>> I understand your position and thoughts about it.  It more or less comes
>> down to that you think/feel that God and You are TWO different beings. 

Ga here:
>Absolutely!   *smile* 

Gerardus here:
The entire universe is ONE Thing!  ONE Energy!  One Source!  Your
expression of "absolutely" means that you 'feel' separated from God or the
Creator. Nothing is separated from God for God or the Creator *IS* all things.

You are that ONE Thing, Energy, Source.  Since You as the Source have
projected an aspect of yourSelf into a specific reality and since this
aspect is capable of thinking - it seems to the aspect (Gabrielle) that she
is different than the ONE Source.  This is not so!  The aspect you are is
engaged in a "Process of Awakening" to what this aspect really is. This
"Process of Awakening" are the many lives you live and the experiences you
have.

How to speed up this process?  You are already doing that, for you are
asking questions and are slightly confused because you have been raised in
a society that is unfamiliar with this concept. (This is what the Occult
was all about. --- It all is in the open now! --- No more Occult!! )
People believe in some other force than themselves.  One by one they will
change their mind!   
------------------------------------------------------------

Gerardus here:
>>This
>> is not so.  There is only God.  So what does that make you?  

Ga here:
>If this is the case dear friend - there is also no you in order to even say
>this much that I should believe! 

Gerardus here:
That is right!  Gerardus in and by itself does not exist either. God as
Gerardus exist.  The Creator as Gabrielle exist!!  We are existing
'thoughts' of the Creator or God. 

Physical Reality is an Illusion!  Our body is a teaching-device.  A dream
is a teaching device.  Gerardus and Gabrielle only exist in the Dream the
Creator has.  WE are Dream-Figments!  To awaken from this Dream is our
task. Yours and Mine and Everybody's.  You should read some, if not all, of
the material on my Site. This might help you to grab this.  In order to
understand you have to transcend years of conditioning.  You have been told
things in the past and you believed them. You believed them (possibly)
without investigating them.  Your question should be : Why do I believe
what I believe?   

The Creator's Dream is an Infinite Experience.  It will always dream -
within this Dream many Dream-Figments take on a reality of their own.  They
become self-aware and eventually God-aware.  Or a Buddha or Christ!  The
entire "thing" is a paradox and I could not possibly explain it for you or
to you. You have to do that yourself - that's what becoming Aware is all
about. 
You are on your own!  
--------------------------------------

Gerardus here: 
>> There is no God who created you and then sits back to watch how you are
>> doing.  

Ga here:
>I am not an Anthroposophist, but have the greatest respect for them...
>Rudolf Steiner once said (and I love it so I am quoting it now - it is dear
>to me) "The greatest mystery I can impart is to say that Christ sees us and
>Knows us". Why should we limit great beings? I believe that Christ created
>Man, as part of God, He can watch and delight in how we are doing.

Gerardus here:
He is right!  Christ or Buddha however are just ordinary Entities in the
Game of Creation. They are 'ordinary' not compared to us, but to the
universe. They are as much an aspect of it as we are!  We however are in a
different position right now - we are focused upon a different reality than
they are.  They have been through the school and we are still in it
learning what it has to teach.  But you are not less than a Christ or
Buddha. A Child is not less than the parent - so to speak.  We All are the
Creator Dreaming Creation...
-----------------------------------------------------

Gerardus here
>You as God came here to participate and enjoy YOUR Creation.  Every
>> post you write for example is a creation.  Sooner or later you will learn
>> to create guppies and a planet or two...

Ga here:
>I feel (I know) I have a way to go yet. But that does not give me despair
>to think so - it gives me hope - because I would want to become much more
>than I am now. Co-creating is the gift of Man - I agree. We need humility
>too though - we need to know our true place and revere those which are to
>be looked up to that we may grow to become likewise?

Gerardus here:
Your conditioning is shining through. "Revere"   "Adore"  "Look up to"
"Have a Savior"    All these are religious connotations.   The only person
that is able to save or do anything for or about you - is you!   Each
person within Humanity has to learn to walk the path alone!  Nobody is here
really to hold your hand.  Naturally there are people who could guide and
help you, but all my words do not help one iota for YOU must do the
understanding!  Awakening!

And indeed "you need to know your true place" in Creation.  Your true place
is knowing that you are the Source.  (The Father and I are One! - Jesus)
That this is so is what you are working on.  Not only you naturally!
Everybody in the world and on TriLite or any other place is working on that
one.  We are all here to get to know our true place.  Then - I suggest not
to revere anyone. This however is hard enough in and by itself, for if you
or I would ever meet a Christ or Buddha we would be overwhelmed by their
Beauty, Love and Power.  Their Energy would overwhelm us and bring us to
tears for days to come.   This Greatness Gabrielle is within all of us.
How could we recognize anything - if we are not the same thing?

What we would experience - is what we are.  Naturally, we have a way to go
and then some. However, we are the same as they are.  BUT not at this
Moment! However, we could be parallel selves of the Christ. We could be one
of its personalities living in Physical Reality, while the Christ itself
graduated from this reality already. Time is an illusion.  
-----------------------------

Gerardus here:
>> At the moment however, in the form you as God appear, you experience
>> yourself as Gabrielle.
>
>  But at the same time you as God are Gabrielle!
>> This Gabrielle in the mean time grows and grows, and every step on your
>> infinite path, you create a better understanding of the Universe. Every
>> step of better understanding the Universe becomes more You, or what you
>> Are!  The Universe is about you and the One Creates the Other.  
>> 
>I am not godly though all the time am I? Sometimes my thoughts and deeds
>would make the gods cringe or blush - and not all is attributable to a
>higher self, but rather to lower inclinations I'm sure.

Gerardus here:
You are not Godly??  You are underestimating yourself.  People have been
taught that they are Sinners.  The religions do not know. You are the
Creator becoming aware.  There is no Sin.  Sin is a human concept!  It's
false!! 

You need to learn to 'see' things from the top down - so to speak. You keep
looking up!  Look down!!  Look at yourself as if you are a child learning.
What is wrong with a learning child?   Nothing!  Do you not love children
whether they are absolutely perfect or not?  Don't you love them
unconditionally?   IOW: You understand them?   That is the way - your High
Self - looks at you.  For it is YOU in the first place - and YOU are it!
We are all One Energy - confusing ourselves - until we catch on and awaken...
--------------------------------------------------------------

Gerardus here:
>> This cannot be fully understood instantly but by pondering about it and
>> meditation if you like, you will get the idea eventually.  Also, your
>Life
>> is YOUR responsibility - not God's or someone else's.  Naturally there
>are
>> many Helpers, Guides and Masters who help you, but in actuality all these
>> Helpers, Guides and Masters are you in the first place.  

Ga here:
>This I know is not true (but thank you anyway) - my teachers are independent
>to me and that is how I can actually learn more today than I knew
>yesterday. 

Gerardus here:
Some day you will learn that NO thing or Being, high or low, is independent
of Anything!  This is the illusion to overcome or transcend...
--------------------------------------------
>> It might be a good thing to remember that Jesus is a forerunner of us. He
>> is an older brother.  This means, that you and I, eventually, will become
>> that old and wise and loving.  We all are walking the same Path...
>> Amen!>

Ga here:
 *big smile*

Gerardus here:
Keep smiling and sooner or later you will understand that all things are
the Creator doing its thing!  Dreaming Creation.   All this by means of you
and me and everybody - for all of us - are co-creators.  Even a tiny mouse!

Gerardus

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Nov 12 95
----------

To One and All...

    Aha!  The Meaning List...   
 
                  Makes a lot of sense to me. 
                         The Meaning of Life that is !!

     *** Life is the 'awakening' to/of Who and What we really are *** 
 
Before 'that awakening'- Life does not have much meaning, for it is 
more or less an affair of the Body-Mind. Body Minds are really 
Ego-Minds and well... you know what their meaning is based on. It's 
based on a first come first serve basis and this really means: how can 
I out-smart the other guy and get his money into my pockets.  And 
so... it's sort of tries to look 'good' in the eyes of the world by 
working hard and trying to get away with something. And then it will 
say: well - I have really made it man. Wow! Look at me.  I'm the 
Governor General of MoneyWisdomLand and I've made a killing on the 
Stock Market. I drive the latest UFO on Wheels and my wife has a 
saucer with sideburners.  Aha!  Big deal.

For when he leaves this world he can't take anything with him, except 
his memories of how he's been acting and behaving towards himself and 
others. And some of these memories hurt like hell!!  The funny thing 
is - the next time he's born again, he will be exactly the same, for 
in order to "see" what Life's Meaning really is - we need to go inside 
a bit and say: Aha! Is that what it is all about!  Hmmm?!  Well, I 
know that I've been on Earth before and possibly a thousand times.  
...And what did I really learn??

                     Yes, what did you really learn?

That's a good question to open up this "Can of WisdomWorms" with and 
see what the effect will be...   

In any case: my full name is *Gerardus Everardus Tros* and I was born 
a long time ago.  I'm on this list in order to try to awaken a Soul or 
two and if you're truly looking for what the Meaning of Life is, I 
suggest you visit my HomePages and see what you can find on these 
roaring revealing rascals...

Enouh' for openers.  Oh yes, I never lurk - I just fall into the List 
and state my Piece in Peace.  Anybody out there who would like to respond? 

However, don't bother to ask for "proof" of anything.  Life is your 
own discovery and I'm not here to prove anything. I'm here to share 
some of my words...  And whether they are Wisdom or Nonsense is up to 
YOU to determine. So long wondering wanderers...

BTW: this post has been written by a Soul-Mind being able to use a 
Body-Mind for its purposes. Which have been stated above - Soul-Awakening!! 

         Light... Love... and Laughter!           *!* Gerardus.

               http://www.geopages.com/CapitolHill/1225

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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 18:39:59 -0700
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To: gerardus@indirect.com
From: Soul 19271225 
Subject: Gerardus' Issues!

Gerardus here:
Now, about these issues. There is basically nothing to discuss for most of 
them are personal issues. Life is a personal thing! I will list my thoughts 
and/or feelings about them, but this does not mean that I wish others to act 
or feel the same way! These are issues to be solved in our future.

Abortion: 
This is up to the mother to be and her doctor or doctors, or whoever is 
chosen to perform what is required. Certainly this is not to be determined 
by the State or Laws of the Country!! They were not called in to decide 
upon whether or not she ought to have the initiating action in the first 
place either. That also was a personal decision!
Therefore - I am pro-abortion. The Soul in many cases does not enter the 
body anyway until the fetus is maybe three to four month old. It depends on 
the level of awareness of the Soul and how it wants to prepare the body, it 
is going to live in. The costs involved are to be contributed by the persons 
having these abortions. If this is not possible, temporary sterility is 
introduced immediately afterwards.

Euthanasia: 
Make a living will before one becomes unable to decide what ought to be done 
when the body becomes a bother to the Being living in it. This is a personal 
decision naturally and doctors ought to assist in this matter. I my opinion 
Dr. Karvorniak (wrong spelling possibly) is a pioneer in this field. Birth 
and Death of the body are personal decisions in the first place. These 
decisions however are initiated by the Higher Self, who is responsible for 
these actions. The trick is to become aware of the actions of this Higher 
Self. IOW: become IT! We are all working on this.

Genocide or Ethnic Cleansing: 
Definitely NOT! All of them are murder and are karmic activities that need 
to be balanced in the future by the Beings responsible for these actions.

UFOs: 
They exists in a great varieties and some of the 'intelligences' that so 
called fly them, are responsible for the Earth and its population. They are 
our Guardians! They also have had a hand in "seeding" mankind upon the Earth 
in the past and made this planet a mixture of different races who all need 
to learn that Human Life is a sacred activity and therefore need to be 
conducted in a sharing and loving manner. (I say a lot more on this on my 
Home pages!)

Molestation: 
Definitely NOT! **This is a physical as well as a psychological 
interference with the Being who is the so called victim. However, in many 
cases, these so called victims, are experiencing this, because of previous 
activities (karmic) by themselves possibly. An eye for an eye - a tooth for 
a tooth. I'm not sure what the bible says...

Incest: 
Definitely NOT! Rest same as above... See **

Abductions: 
Happens all the time and is done by UFO inhabitants and/or other forces. 
There is an inter-dimensional interplay that is an aspect of creation. We 
abduct animals of all kinds and do with them as we see fit. This is not 
always done with respect to the animals or with their permission. Many 
people even eat them! People are not eaten by "off planet forces" as far as 
I know. Only their our own kind partakes in this activity in war and at 
other occasions.
Weird religions and other 'behind the curtain' issues: 
I do not know anything weird enough to mention here. There are Satanic 
Cults possibly and they might 'sacrifice' humans or animals. This was a 
regular activity in our past. Many people volunteered to be sacrificed 
possibly. There are suicide bombers nowadays. (Man is a weird creature some 
times and this is so - because he's ignorant of what he really is)

I think I discussed all the issues and here follow some others:
Capitol Punishment: 
No! Punishment is good enough! I'm thinking here about the "Stockades". So 
called criminals ought to experience this and then put to work. Labor! - 
Hard work! No work - no food! In case of sickness, competent doctors will 
need to decide what to do with these beings. The trouble is that man's 
society is so 'sick' at the moment already, that it is almost impossible to 
correct what goes on right now.
IOW: There is no solution for the problems we have created for ourselves. 
All this because of ignorance. This ties in directly with the following.

Selective breeding: (there might be a better term for this)
We have selective breeding for animals, pets and all kinds of other 
varieties of life. Not to have it for the bodies of mankind is a result of 
ignorance. Democratic rules ought to be set up where one needs to prove that 
enough responsibility is present before one will be capable of producing 
more of the same body-types. This needs to be regulated by a panel of 
"wise-people-doctors" and everyone will be made sterile at a proper time, 
until responsibility and character has been shown to exist. Naturally a lot 
more is to be taken into consideration also. First of all the "idea" itself 
need to be accepted.
Note1) We cannot reach a better way of life until the religions and their 
followers have voluntarily disappeared. The disappearance of the religions 
depend naturally on the educational systems of the world and 'insight' the 
world population will have because of that. 
I guess we're kind of stuck for now!
Note 2) 
Whatever goes on in the world however should not stop any other person from 
educating himself and possibly share this with others. This is what I am 
trying to do - my way! Sometimes belligerent and sometimes not. In any 
case I want to prevent to "soft-sell" my philosophy. It has to be like and 
accepted on its own. Not on the type of diplomacy of the messenger! That's 
why I do things the way I do them.
Thank you Less for this opportunity...

. . 
. The Age of Reason is past... . 
. Please step into the New Age of Intuition and bring your . 
. Reason along. The two of them will bring all of us into . 
. the State of Buddhahood or the Christ Consciousness. . 
. Whichever you prefer! . 
. . 
. Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus . 
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At 06:44 AM 95/11/25 UT, you wrote: >        Who or what are your guides?


Less...

I'm glad you asked that question!

My guides and helpers are other human beings who at this time do not 
live in a physical body. They are in the Spirit World and they try to 
help me to become more aware of what is!  I do the learning on this 
side and they do it on the other side. Next time around, after I have 
left this present body, they might be incarnated, and I help them with 
their life on Earth.

We are a group of let's say; seven to fifteen people make up a 
Spiritual Family and we take turns learning how to communicate from 
either side.

Usually I call these friends "my Soul"  They are an aspect of me as if 
they are me!  We are one, and together so to speak, we try to unite 
with the rest of the Universe - or God if you like.

These Guides or Teachers, as I also call them, give me my 
inspirations. When I write they put the words into my thoughts and I 
just type them.  They do the work and I get the blame!  Know what I 
mean?  I know that they are laughing now, for they know that I am laughing!

Since I know who I am - nobody can insult me or damage me in anyway.  
For whoever I meet, is the same Thing or Energy. I know it - they don't...

There are some articles on my Homepages that will give you some more 
details about myself and who is who anywhere...

I do not know their names for names are useless in this game. They 
have had thousands of names, so did I.  This time I like my name: I 
have only been using my full name for about four years or so. In 
Holland I used Gerard, and in Canada they called me just about 
everything but Gerald, and now I use Gerardus.  It's the name I have 
from birth - Christmas 1927

Oh yes, my thoughts, or your thoughts, are not necessarily ours. Many 
thoughts we get are from the other plane of existence. Once you become 
good enough in listening, you do not have to think at all. Everything 
then is coming from the Higher Plane and the very High Self begins to 
live and bloom within the very Beings we are...

Also, thoughts are not created by some kind of chemical solutions that 
float in the brain. As far as I feel things to be, the brain does not 
think too many important thoughts at all, except to survive.

We pick up our own spiritual Source or that from others who inspire 
us. If a brain thinks at all it is the Body-Mind doing its Ego-Thing. 
We have two minds. The Soul-Mind and the Body Mind. To teach the Soul 
Mind is the trick.  Body minds might learn a lot in one life, but when 
the body dies, the knowledge is pretty well lost. Next time you have a 
new body and a new brain again. All different...

Most people live in the Ego-Mind. That's why they are easily insulted. 
Others might touch their ego-being by saying something they don't like 
or have never heard of, and it disturbs them for they do not live in 
their Soul-Mind or Soul-Being.  The Soul cannot be insulted.  It is 
our personal Creator and Guardian and assigns certain others to look 
after us here on earth.  I have been told that I have seven helpers.  
One jokes a lot and others helps me to write.  Or maybe they all do - 
who know...  I'll find out when I get back there or learn more about 
it from here. They all have different functions and different 
specialities.  It's a wonderful world!

Thank you for being so nosy!

In the 1980/81 era I had a spiritual teacher called Less. Yes, he 
lived in a human body and was an ordinary guy.

Light... Love... and Laughter!           *!* Gerardus.

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November 25 95


To One and All...

Age in, age out, all Mankind's physical experiences are Cosmic 
Experiments. Sometimes within these experiments happenings occur that 
go drastically wrong. We might be at such an impasse! These impasses 
can only be corrected by drastic measures. These have to be applied by 
Mankind itself. Someone has to see and mention this. Not likely will 
these views be accepted, for Man in his innocent ways knows not that 
the universe plays his game. 
            
         " Self responsibility and the consequences thereof "

However, whatever happens and whatever might be corrected or not, is 
not important.  For the entire experiment is only an experience either way!

Knowing that Life is Infinite and that experiments are only 
experiences of the Creator within Man, makes all outcomes a success.  
Infinity is a long time to do nothing and the history of Mankind on 
his many planets is but a diversion for the Infinite Force We Are. 

Human understanding often thinks/feels however, that certain things 
ought to be done this or that way. All of this is irrelevant to the 
universe and the Creative Energies we are as Mankind and the Creator.  

  Please enjoy and celebrate the Knowing that You Are Man and the Universe.  
                We are Sprits and have Human Expeiences
           We are not Humans with a bit of Spirit somewhere 

                              SO BE IT

                          *!* Gerardus *!*



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To: Multiple recipients of list lightwork-l 
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 12:19:24 -0500
From: MPREd@aol.com
Subject: Re: Affirmations

In a message on this topic Gerardus wrote:
>>Spirituality is just living Life the ordinary way, with your wife and 
>>children and trying to experience an evening of closeness with others. And 
>>especially yourself - the closeness of being and knowing that you are 
>>connected to the God you are... It's a Celebration! 

That comes closer to a real and workable description of what spirituality is 
than all the spouted floods of hooey about sin, supernaturals, saviors, 
salvation, ascension, healing, waves, dimensions, and the rest of the 
pseudo-religio-scientific cant to be found everywhere you look. Spirituality 
is behaving decently towards the people you encounter. At the very least it's 
that before it's anything else. IMA(rrogant)O, all the rest of that stuff is 
good only for encouraging people to do that basic thing, if it has any use at 
all. Thanks you very much for your attention.
--Ted Daniels


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Resent-date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 17:42:17 -0800
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 18:41:20 -0700
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From: Soul 19271225 
Subject: Bodies and Cars and Oranges
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To All...
I have noticed that there are some wise people on this list. I would like 
you to comment on the following. If you do not agree that Consciousness/Soul 
is prior to Matter however - your comments are nullified! 

Note: Other people on other lists blasted me straight into Hell, right 
beside Hitler. You may do the same if you like! 
*!* Gerardus
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Here we go...
Bodies are for Souls - what cars are for drivers. 
They get you some place!
Would you like to drive a car that falls apart on you before its time? 
Would you like to live in a body that falls apart on you before its time or 
does not function at all?
Now! We are able to manufacture excellent cars. 
We are also able to manufacture excellent bodies!
Oh yes, why do we breed excellent cats and dogs for example? Or race horses? 
Or cows and pigs? Or flowers? Or oranges? Or tropical fish? Are they 
worth more than human bodies? Do we as Souls have to live in bodies that 
are haphazardly created by another body that has no idea that s/he is a Soul 
and/or has no sense of commitment or self-responsibility? 

The trouble is that people at this particular time are not aware that they 
are Souls and that they are having a human experience. They think that they 
are human by luck somehow and that the 'hereafter' is some kind of fantasy. 
Well, it isn't. We as Souls are here to experience human conditions. These 
human conditions can be improved upon only by living Consciously. They can 
be improved upon only by us. By Conscious Human Beings! 

Please tell me why do we only make excellent cars, pure bred cats, classy 
dogs, fast race horses, faster greyhounds and beautiful oranges but leave 
the body making to all kind of people who do not have any sense of 
responsibility or any other qualities required for Conscious Living? What's 
going on here?

The fact that we don't, is partly due to the religions, the lack of proper 
education and the fact that we continually manufacture bodies of a lesser 
quality that are not interested in living Consciously. They are only 
interested in pleasure for the sake of body-pleasure and no thought 
whatsoever is spent on the consequences. They are ignorant of the fact that 
they are Souls living in inferior human bodies and keep producing more and 
more of them... Hmmm? Is the rest of humanity supposed to takes care of 
all these bodies? Do we need body-shelters?

In the past thousands of years we had accepted that God looks after this 
world and that God puts us in certain bodies at certain times. This is not 
so! God has nothing to do with bodies and or times. God is Creation. Yes! 
But how to go about creating what God is, is up to Man. Up to us. Man is 
the Creator! Man decides...

So what would the result be if we were to improve upon the body and body 
mind we live with? Well, that's simple. It would eliminate medicare, 
doctors, lawyers, lawsuits, dishonest politicians, insurance companies, bank 
robbers, molesters, burglars, dope addicts, poor people, aids, thieves, 
welfare and prisons. And last but not least... it would eliminate WAR! We 
would be able to soar into a style of living that's worthwhile indeed. 

Living Consciously! We would promote ourselves to Heaven so to speak...
Just imagine what would happen to Car Manufacturers who year in, year out, 
produce inferior cars. They would be put out of business naturally!
Is this what we need to do with the inferior body manufacturers? Well, 
naturally we let them have their sexual moments, but do we need their 
products? Do we need selective breeding? 
Please comment on this Bombshell.


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Date:         Fri, 8 Dec 1995 17:04:45 -0500
Reply-To: The meaning of life and other weighty contemplations
              
Sender: The meaning of life and other weighty contemplations
              
From: Carlos Espinoza 
Subject:      What consciousness is not
To: Multiple recipients of list MEANING 

Gerardus, you are right about "consciousness being everything,"
however this definition exists within the bounds of our definition of
everything.  Nonetheless, this is a short post (for entirely different
reasons than you suggested.  I have begun to reread Jaynes' book
(once again) and have a heart-felt belief that it would satisfy the
questions of many on this list.  Jaynes does not have the answers, he's
only putting forward a hypothesis and the evidence to support it.  The
implications of this hypothesis permeate every aspect of our lives,
individually and socially.  But this (my proselytizing) is how these posts
become so long--here's Julian Jaynes from The Origin of Consciousness
in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind--Houghton and Mifflin, Boston,
1976, and reissued with new preface and afterward in 1990.  It's $13.95
for the soft-cover edition.

"Consciousness is a much smaller part of our mental life than we are
conscious of, because we cannot be conscious of what we are not
conscious of.  How simple that is to say; how difficult to appreciate!  It is
like asking a flashlight in a dark room to search around for something that
does not have any light shining upon it.  The flashlight, since there is light
in whatever direction it turns, would have to conclude that there is light
everywhere.  And so consciousness would seem to pervade all
mentality when actually it does not."

This is a short post because it's Friday and my colleagues are beckoning
me to join them for Happy Hour.  Suffice it to say at this point that
consciousness is not necessary for judgement, reasoning, learning, or
even thinking.  It is not a copy of experience.  But it does have
characteristics, and I shall elaborate on those later.

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At 08:05 PM 95/12/11 -0500, you wrote:
>>In my simple-mindedness ..........
>>
>
>>
>>  Yeah that's what I am - a real simple one!
>
>Gerardus,
>Why do you speak of yourself in this way? I've noticed it before, and it
>worries me. You are so kind and wise. You shouldn't belittle what you have
>to say in this way. You are much loved by all on this list and we treasure
>you.
>
>rebecca
===============

Dear Rebecca...

Thank you for your kind words.  I DESERVE THEM!!!   

Follows:
Possibly the word "simple' has different connotation for you than for 
me. Maybe even for all the "rest of you" - but I doubt it.  Anyway, who knows?

The word "simple" to me means not complicated -  I feel that Life is 
not complicated!  We have made it what it seem like - complicated, 
bothersome, awkward, struggling, interfering, and all kinds of other 
sophisticated terms we use nowadays and apply to it.  Really now? 

If that is what it is - I must have missed the boat.  Life in the 
physical to me is an experience and some of it I do not even 
particularly like. Like work and not enough money. Or fixing the 
plumbing underneath my motorhome. Or having my eyes full of tears 
because a freezing wind is howling. I have overcome all of my so 
called struggles and I'm soaring along in the most simplistic form, 
like a smiling Buddha without followers. 

And whether I am a Buddha or not, I do not worry about for I am what I 
am - and smile.  Not always mind you - but often.  And especially when 
I answer posts like yours. On the end of the year I'm 68 and I have 
lived a full life and encountered many trying times and transcended 
them. I've got nothing to lose by calling myself 'simple' for that is 
what I basically am.  A simple being within an infinite ocean of Awareness.

However, my poems, writings and my Cosmic Cookies bare great witness 
that my thoughts are deeper than most. In other words; I have touched 
the complicated and the simplistic to the depth of my Being. What else 
is there to do at my age?  

I appreciate your concern, and I accept it gracefully. I feel that 
there are others on the list however, who I feel, have a truer grasp 
of me. They know me for what I am - a bit of teasing and pleasing - 
profound with a childish touch of innocence. Playful yet sincere. 
Liked and loved.  And many tell me so via the back door.  And you 
know?   I deserve all of it - for I am all of that. I am an infinite 
playful Soul hiding behind this finite Mask... 

So - what I really am is not just Gerardus, but a Great Soul 
whispering some words of truth to my reflection known as Gerardus.  
Who in all his simplistic profound Beingness is not "fizzed" nor 
influenced - but only pleased by what he hears.  Gerardus then can 
afford to be simple - for his Soul is an infinite Star yet to be discovered...

For Rebecca:


                              BECAUSE OF YOU
                              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Before You were... I was.
                But I did not know it.

                And now that You are...
                               I have come to know.

                     But many of You...
                               do not recognize Me.

                               Although I am ALL of You.

          Before I became You...
                    there was Nobody to sense Me.

                              But now that I am You so Splendidly
                                       I know who I am.

          Before You were... I was.
                    But I did not know it.

                    And now that You have become Me...
                                      it is You who recognizes Me.

               For I am the Flower within You...
                                           opening up
                                      to the Fragrance I am.

          I am the Sky...
                    reflecting within...
                                   the Dewdrop I am.

                I am the Wondering within You...
                            to marvel at the Sight...
                                 of my Greatness within Smallness.

          I am the Sky in the Dewdrop...
               I am the Birds You see... in Me.

                          I am the One who wonders...
                                        and knows who I am...
                                                   because of You.

                          ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
                                21463-1983


         Light... Love... and Laughter!           *!* Gerardus.



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To: Multiple recipients of list LightWork-L 
Sender: owner-LightWork-L@wilbur.protree.com
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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:04:08 -0700
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From: Soul 19271225 
Subject: Re: Service and Light



At 01:41 AM 95/12/30 -0600, you wrote:
Stephen says:
>My model says its ALL ONE. My model says Earth is the timespace to BRING 
>IT ALL TOGETHER AND END SEPARATION ONCE AND FOR ALL. ON ALL 
>LEVELS/DIMENSIONS: SEX, EMOTION, BODY, LOVE, MIND, EGO, SUPREME ULTIMATE 
>ATMANIC SELF, THE COWSHIT IN THE TALL GRASS -- ALL ONE, HEALING ALL 
>BOUNDARIES AND WALLS. One Gigantic energy: Passion and song and dancing in 
>this formSoup is why I am here. I am here to journey and uncover God in 
>Everything. To Live that "WE ARE THAT" in all arenas of Life. To live 
>Full without fear, doubt, or holding in any way! And all these words just 
>point. 
> 
>Seen/See/Will See You/Us in the 10th Dimension, 
> 
>Stephen

Gerardus here:
I like your model Stephen. I like Evin's model. I like the Unicorn's 
model. I also like Alexzander's. And also the one Rich has and I like all 
the models all the others have. Then - I also like mine... a lot!
To me, a model is a fancy word for reality, which is a fancy word for 
opinion, which is a temporary state of mind that produces the notion that we 
think/feel we see things a certain way at the present. This temporary state 
of mind is the illusion we like to entertain and hug...
All these models, and realities, and opinions - change! They change until 
we have reached the position of the "it" that never changes. This is the 
"it" we are and is experiencing all these models and realities and opinions. 
This "it" is always the same "it" - except for the dream in which it 
experiences all these fancy and/or screwy models and thinks/feels that the 
one is better or worse than the other... 
This "it" is IT! And we are THAT IT!
Life is the Ultimate Joke. 
For Life is... 
the Dream of the Infinite IT !
======================
Light... Love... and Laughter! *!* Gerardus.

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Resent-date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:38:31 -0800
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:37:12 -0700
Resent-from: wisdom-l@rain.org
From: Soul 19271225 
Subject: Re: How has your view changed?
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At 06:23 PM 95/12/30 -0500, you wrote: 
>While I am reviewing the archive, let me ask one question of those of you 
>who have been conversing on this list: 
> 
>How have your views of wisdom changed as a result of your conversations 
>on this list? That is, what do you think now that you did not think when 
>you started here? 
> 
>Gerald
Gerardus here: 
Good question. Personally my view has changed very little because of this 
particular wisdom list. It has changed somewhat because of other lists. This 
wisdom list in the last two years that I have been on it, has gone from say 
30-40 people to just a few. Maybe all are lurking now - I don't know.
I have had long and heavy discussions with many people on this list and the 
majority of the people were looking for some kind of super common sense in 
order to fix the world - instead of true inner wisdom, which changes things 
from the within. Many people possibly thought that wisdom is something that 
rubs off because you know someone who's wiser. Wisdom is a Soul-Thing. You 
bring most of it with you. 

Wisdom is from the Heart - while Knowledge is of 
the mind, a learned thing. Most knowledge gets us into trouble. Knowledge 
and pollution of any and all kinds are brothers and/or sisters. The Green 
Peace people are the outcasts in our world - how far can we get lost? 
Nuclear explosions and tests and more test - how can a few wise people 
possibly reason with ignorance (excuse me knowledge) like that? Beats me? 
It's all in the Game we Play... "Man lost in its own Creation"

Yet, at the same time - my view is that the world is a school and does not 
need fixing! It can only improve because of our Inner Creative Abilities 
and Understanding en Mass of our predicament. We all create our own 
realities. This includes the reality I see and experience from this world. 
There are many grades of learning in this world. I cannot stop my learning 
because I am in grade three now and they guys in grade two are still fooling 
around. Their 'fooling' is their learning!

The world improves because we as individuals do! Many on this list in the 
past wanted to bring about changes from the outside in. Does not work that 
way. Our Inner is the Creator! Our Mind - our Heart. Not rules or 
politicians or religious beliefs. We have tried that for the last 5000 or 
more years. Those ages are passed and the new age will bring about changes 
unimaginable to an ordinary guy trying to vote right time. 

Then: ---------> As long as money is our God we are still in terrible shape. 
Things are changing slowly and will be better in the future. The majority of 
people do not believe in slow change. They want things fixed right now. 
That's the way they are conditioned. Aspirins, tylenol, medicare, insurance, 
TV doctors and all the rest of the conditioning creates fear and we are 
suffering from this in this world. What we need is Awareness - from this 
follows Understanding, Sharing and Love! The old Three Dimensional Methode 
is dead! It will be phased out...

Life is a experience and we are here to have it. We are here to experience 
things the way they are and only when the majority of people are ready can 
we truly change the world - for it is our Creation. This majority is still 
out for a free lunch. Many believe in some kind of outside savior or worse. 
The majority just might check out because of the changes that will occur. 
There are many different scenarios and the rumors there of...

Most people on this list at one time believed that the Human being is not 
more than his body and on the expiring of that body, disappears forever from 
the scene of life. I have laid it on pretty thick sometimes but not too many 
responded with a similar philosophy. James O. and Stephen Q. are exceptions. 
In case I forgot who was all there/here and I discussed things with - please 
speak up now...

The wisdom-list is not my major interest. Which is my own writings and the 
sharing of it via the Internet and Shareware in the past. I am also a member 
of the lightwork-l list, the Meaning list and the Reality list. The 
lightwork-l list is strictly New Age Thought and beyond! It is far advanced 
compared to all other lists. But then - what is far advanced? We are all 
here to play a role and are the same entity playing it. Consciousness in 
Form! Or the One in All!

Yes, I have little time - but I am willing to discuss things. However - I 
have pages of discussions on my Homepages. There is not much more to say 
than what I have said on these HomePages already. They explain my position 
magnificently, which is hard to do on an email. Many, many factors play a 
role in our improvements of the world. First of all however, we need to 
understand that we need to improve ourselves first. We need awareness. True 
education based on Eternal Life! But not religions!!! They create 
followers. What we need are independent thinkers and daring people. We 
need to understand that we are the Creator or God that is! There is no 
other! We are it! To make this known is what I'm working on - my way...

Thank you Gerald!


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At 05:02 PM 95/12/30 -0800, you wrote: 
>> actions that will turn out to have been the best in the long run for everyone 
>> concerned. Isn't that what wisdom is? 
> 
>Hi, James! I've been following this list for some time and one of the 
>most often recurring statements have to do with defining "WISDOM" - 
>usually, to not much avail. 
> 
>I've been playing around with benevolent action as a necessity of wisdom. 
> 
> 
>T.

Yes T. is right.

 In retrospect I'd say this:
True Wisdom is - Helping yourself by trying to help others! 
This is hard to do for all of us think/feel 
that our own mixed bag of goodies is the answer. 

What our world needs is: 
True Leaders - True Educators 
All we have is re-electable Politicians. 

*!* Gerardus



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